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Im so depress I broke down
Last nite I was @ work and out of the blue I started shaking, my heart was pounding, and I was crying my eyes out. I woke up this morning I started doing this again. I just dont know if I coming or going. I been relax for a couple of days. Starting again. Some things are bothering me, My mind is racing trying to sort out things and I cant. Im so depress I think I need help I cant live like this all my life Im sick and tired of it. I want to be normal again. I just want to cry.....
Thanks for the info. I wont give up Im sure Ill find the right councelor. My friend told me she has a good councelor so Im going to call them and hopefully this will work for me.
Where did you get this book? At a book store Im going to fight hard cause I really want to get back to normal again.
Where did you get this book? At a book store Im going to fight hard cause I really want to get back to normal again.
I went to several different counselors in the past due to my anxiety, and none of them had an effect on me. I don't talk about that very much because there are people who get great help from counselors, and just because they did not do a thing for me doesn't mean they can't help other people. In other words its not my intention to "discourage" people from seing a counselor. Did you decide to see another one since that one did not deliver as you expected?
As I mentioned a few times, and not very often because I do not want people to think that I am pushing a book or want medhelp to get mad at me for posting the name of this book/books by this Psychiatrist, her books helped me tremendously what NO counselor could do for me. I went through 15 yrs of pure hell with anxiety/panic attacks/agorophobia, the counselors/ Psychologists and one shrink did NOT understand how to help me. I was on almost every tranquelizer and anti depressant on the market with NO help, but I did NOT give up. I knew sooner or later I will find somebody/something/somehow that will help me. I saw this ad for this book and thought "what the hell lets give it a try it can't hurt me", and that book changed my whole life around. I'm now totally free of agorophobia, and 95% free of my panic attacks. The 5%, when they come I get her books out and read, and read the same stuff over again, and before I know it my anxiety is gone. If I am out, I remember the words and advise from her book/books.
DON'T GIVE UP! Something will click with you sooner or later, and you will get the help.
Do I still get body aches/stiff neck etc. when under stress or suspense? Yes, but they don't scare me anymore. Do I still have the "what if" there is something seriously wrong with me, yes!
I used to have severe PVC's (skipping heartbeat) all tests were fine, that book took all the fear out of me about these PVC's, the fear that I will drop dead. I still hate them, but when they come I don't go into total panic that I might drop dead any second. I let them come, live with it until they are gone again. They last a lot shorter now then before I read her books.
Don't give up. See another counselor.
As I mentioned a few times, and not very often because I do not want people to think that I am pushing a book or want medhelp to get mad at me for posting the name of this book/books by this Psychiatrist, her books helped me tremendously what NO counselor could do for me. I went through 15 yrs of pure hell with anxiety/panic attacks/agorophobia, the counselors/ Psychologists and one shrink did NOT understand how to help me. I was on almost every tranquelizer and anti depressant on the market with NO help, but I did NOT give up. I knew sooner or later I will find somebody/something/somehow that will help me. I saw this ad for this book and thought "what the hell lets give it a try it can't hurt me", and that book changed my whole life around. I'm now totally free of agorophobia, and 95% free of my panic attacks. The 5%, when they come I get her books out and read, and read the same stuff over again, and before I know it my anxiety is gone. If I am out, I remember the words and advise from her book/books.
DON'T GIVE UP! Something will click with you sooner or later, and you will get the help.
Do I still get body aches/stiff neck etc. when under stress or suspense? Yes, but they don't scare me anymore. Do I still have the "what if" there is something seriously wrong with me, yes!
I used to have severe PVC's (skipping heartbeat) all tests were fine, that book took all the fear out of me about these PVC's, the fear that I will drop dead. I still hate them, but when they come I don't go into total panic that I might drop dead any second. I let them come, live with it until they are gone again. They last a lot shorter now then before I read her books.
Don't give up. See another counselor.
bip-- I'm so sorry for your experience with that horrible counselor. Please keep on looking. My personal experience is there is an empathetic, helpful counselor for every five. Those five don't seem to have good people skills and are more administrative types. The counselor that changed my life was probably number twenty, but then again, I didn't have insurance and had to go through the county and right when I would connect with someone, they would transfer. When you find the right one, you will feel like you are talking to a friend and they will be sympathtic and give you HELPFUL suggestions.
Thanks for being here for me. I did see a councelor a few weeks ago I didnt mention it cause she made me upset. I tried to talk to her and tell her I told her about years ago my dad died AND IT MADE ME WAKE UP AND THINK iM GOING TO DIE. She looked @ me and said you are ruining your life I said ya I came here to sort out my problems so I can enjoy my life its not just my dad its home, work, EVERYTHING. She said STOP worrrying get over your dads death and get on with your life. I looked @ her and I just said BYE. I should of said something to everyone but I didnt cause it felt like I didnt even see a councelor. You all help me more than she did. I dod have to look into another one. Thois is what happened. Sorry I didnt say anything but I just felt like she was NOTHING. Thanks for caring.
Do you think I got upset for nothing?
Do you think I got upset for nothing?
While we're talking, I have been on the depression chat room also and there is a 16yr old who has posted some very upsetting posts. Many people have responded, me included, but any suggestion we make she has some reason/reasons why she can't follow through. Some are very SIMPLE suggestions. Do some people get a kick out of posting as a "poor teen" or even a teenager just messing with caring people. As I type and see what I have written, of course, the answer is probably yes! How sad! Maybe I AM naive. Again, thank you for the education.
Also watch out in chat rooms for the "fakes", for the ones who come on with different disguises as in different screen names. Sometimes they act like they are on your side just to come back under another screen name and attack you while all along they are the same person. These people are asinine and cruel and this is their hobby.
Try not to let it bother you should some of them at times want to make fun of you or belittle you with whatever condition you are suffering from. These are trolls who get off on doing these things to people. What bothers them the most is when nobody responds. I know its hard sometimes not to respond when being attacked.
I've seen these things happening on several different sites/chat rooms. They eventually will get kicked off.
Most people though have compassion, are nice, and just want to help/comfort each other.
Try not to let it bother you should some of them at times want to make fun of you or belittle you with whatever condition you are suffering from. These are trolls who get off on doing these things to people. What bothers them the most is when nobody responds. I know its hard sometimes not to respond when being attacked.
I've seen these things happening on several different sites/chat rooms. They eventually will get kicked off.
Most people though have compassion, are nice, and just want to help/comfort each other.
Thank you for the tips on the internet and chat rooms. I am new to the internet X2mos and I don't think I am naive and certainly don't believe everything out there, but the fact that some sites might inflate their information for their own benefit just would not have occurred to me. Nor would it have occurred that some people would be pushing certain meds for the benefit of a drug company. Thank you for the eduation on these scenarios!
Again, a logical and good response. About the liver or whatever it is that is bothering me, I already made an appointment to see my doctor this Friday. I will let a symptom go for about a week and then I HAVE to see a doctor. It'll drive me crazy it I don't.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Shutting down the computer is good. But a good slapping is in order too!
Thanks! I just sent you an email..
Take care.
Thanks! I just sent you an email..
Take care.
tanns is right NO MORE GOOGLING!!!!! These sites sometimes work hand in hand with companies who get kick backs when people are getting CT scans, MRI's and so on, expensive tests. These sites point out the worst possible cause what your symptom could be and they hope that people run to their doctors and request one of these tests or they hope that their doctors will order one of these expensive tests. Nothing is for free. If nothing else they hope that you take note of the prescription drugs and none prescription drugs ads that are popping up while you are googling medical sites.
Also watch out in chatrooms. If somebody is constantly telling you and praising a certain prescription drug or none prescription drug they are usually working for one of these drug companies. There is nothing wrong with mentioning that a certain drug has helped a person, but each person is different, what helps one person doesn't mean it will help another. Only a doctor should tell you, prescribe it for you and watch over you/with you for side effects. Unfortunately lots of people don't have insurance and they listen to these people who praise these drugs constantly and then order them cheap from Canada, diagnosing themselves and prescribing for themselves so to speak.
My advise: Watch your symptoms about your liver. If they continue, tell your doctor about it. Just by touching your liver from the outside of your stomach your doctor will be able to tell you if your liver is swollen or not.
Also watch out in chatrooms. If somebody is constantly telling you and praising a certain prescription drug or none prescription drug they are usually working for one of these drug companies. There is nothing wrong with mentioning that a certain drug has helped a person, but each person is different, what helps one person doesn't mean it will help another. Only a doctor should tell you, prescribe it for you and watch over you/with you for side effects. Unfortunately lots of people don't have insurance and they listen to these people who praise these drugs constantly and then order them cheap from Canada, diagnosing themselves and prescribing for themselves so to speak.
My advise: Watch your symptoms about your liver. If they continue, tell your doctor about it. Just by touching your liver from the outside of your stomach your doctor will be able to tell you if your liver is swollen or not.
NO MORE GOOGLING!!! I told you!!!!
I'm not slapping you but I'm shutting down your computer for a while! (now, if I could only do the same!!!!)
I'm not slapping you but I'm shutting down your computer for a while! (now, if I could only do the same!!!!)
I love reading your posts. They are always so logical and calm. Now can you slap some sense into me?! I'm getting paranoid about liver disease!! Anyway, I don't want to get into it. I just need someone to slap me upside the head. Anyone???
You told us several times when you had your doctors appointments, how it went, and what they said, you told us about your test results including on the heart forum. You mentioned a few times on this site that you were going to see a counselor. What did the counselor say? Were you satisfied with him/her, when are you seing him/her again? Do you feel he/she can help you? If not, will you see somebody else?
All your physical tests so far came back negative. Now its time to find out "why" you have all these physical symptoms. Give a shrink a chance to help you. Get to the bottom of it what tears you apart emotionally. It could be many things i.e. fear of dying because of your father's heart attack at an early age afraid it will happen to you too, in need of attention because you do not get enough from your husband because he gives the computer more attention as you told us, and there could be many more reasons only a professional could unlock, help you, and set you free of your suffering.
You said awhile back that you were trying to quit smoking, how does that go? Any success?. If you are afraid of dying, lung cancer should be a concern, and should cause you to at least try to stop smoking. I know its an addiction, and its hard, I watched my husband, a lung cancer scare caused him to quit, but lung cancer is not the only souvenir you can get from smoking, he got emphesema, and COPD, and has to sleep with an oxygen mask at night because of many years of smoking. Its not lung cancer, but its not exactly milk and cookies either. You're still young and you can prevent all these illnesses due to smoking if you stop early in life.
But what is just as important right now is seing a counselor or a Psychiatrist so he/she can find out "why" you have all these symptoms of anxiety. All your physical tests so far came back negative, now its time to find out what is going on emotionally.
And if people on this board don't say what you like to hear don't get mad, they are only going by what you post. Like I for example, I read when you posted that you were going to see a counselor, but you never told us what he/she said or did for you, and I was wondering "why" you didn't say anything, wondering "if" you even saw one. Other people asked you whether you saw a counselor so I did not feel like I too had to ask you.
All your physical tests so far came back negative. Now its time to find out "why" you have all these physical symptoms. Give a shrink a chance to help you. Get to the bottom of it what tears you apart emotionally. It could be many things i.e. fear of dying because of your father's heart attack at an early age afraid it will happen to you too, in need of attention because you do not get enough from your husband because he gives the computer more attention as you told us, and there could be many more reasons only a professional could unlock, help you, and set you free of your suffering.
You said awhile back that you were trying to quit smoking, how does that go? Any success?. If you are afraid of dying, lung cancer should be a concern, and should cause you to at least try to stop smoking. I know its an addiction, and its hard, I watched my husband, a lung cancer scare caused him to quit, but lung cancer is not the only souvenir you can get from smoking, he got emphesema, and COPD, and has to sleep with an oxygen mask at night because of many years of smoking. Its not lung cancer, but its not exactly milk and cookies either. You're still young and you can prevent all these illnesses due to smoking if you stop early in life.
But what is just as important right now is seing a counselor or a Psychiatrist so he/she can find out "why" you have all these symptoms of anxiety. All your physical tests so far came back negative, now its time to find out what is going on emotionally.
And if people on this board don't say what you like to hear don't get mad, they are only going by what you post. Like I for example, I read when you posted that you were going to see a counselor, but you never told us what he/she said or did for you, and I was wondering "why" you didn't say anything, wondering "if" you even saw one. Other people asked you whether you saw a counselor so I did not feel like I too had to ask you.
iN 2 WEEKS MY FRINED IS TAKING MY 2 BOYZ FOR THE NITE AND MY HUSBAND AND i ARE GOING OUT. tHAT IS NICE JUST THE 2 OF US. IM GOING TO TALK TO HIM VERY CARM AND TELL HIM I HOW I FEEL.....HOPEFULLY HE WILL LISTEN TO ME. IM TELLING HIM FLAT OUT NO BEATING AROUND THE BUSH WITH HIM.
ANYWAYS HOW ARE YOU DOING?
ANYWAYS HOW ARE YOU DOING?
Im sorry if I came off as too blunt - I was not meaning to hurt you with my advice.
Have you talked w/ your husband (I mean a GOOD LONG talk) about your stress and his part in your relationship? Does he REALLY understand how you have been feeling? Having support at home is very important to ones well-being. If you cant seem to get through to him, couples counselling may be helpful.
In terms of his gaming addiction, I think you need to agree upon some set limits. For instance, your whole family should spend Xh together a day - having dinner, doing some shared chores/homework, going for a walk etc. etc. Make a time for your whole family to "hang out". Then there should be some you/hubby time too. Prehaps have a "date" night where you get to know each other. Your husband (and you) also needs "alone" time. This is time for him to play his game (or whatever esle he would like to do) but should come only after the other priorities have been set first - this way the kids have time w/ him, you have time w/ him, and he has time for his game BUT everything is a little more scheduled so his gaming doesnt dominate.
Have you talked w/ your husband (I mean a GOOD LONG talk) about your stress and his part in your relationship? Does he REALLY understand how you have been feeling? Having support at home is very important to ones well-being. If you cant seem to get through to him, couples counselling may be helpful.
In terms of his gaming addiction, I think you need to agree upon some set limits. For instance, your whole family should spend Xh together a day - having dinner, doing some shared chores/homework, going for a walk etc. etc. Make a time for your whole family to "hang out". Then there should be some you/hubby time too. Prehaps have a "date" night where you get to know each other. Your husband (and you) also needs "alone" time. This is time for him to play his game (or whatever esle he would like to do) but should come only after the other priorities have been set first - this way the kids have time w/ him, you have time w/ him, and he has time for his game BUT everything is a little more scheduled so his gaming doesnt dominate.
I know you are trying to help me Im sorry for acting this way. Im just so much stress/anxiety I feel better when I talk to others on this forum you all are GREAT supporting each other.
I know you all arent doctors We are all here to support each other. I know I post alot of times I admit I just feel better when I talk to others.
IM REALLY SORRY you are always here for me and Ill always be there for you...
I know you all arent doctors We are all here to support each other. I know I post alot of times I admit I just feel better when I talk to others.
IM REALLY SORRY you are always here for me and Ill always be there for you...
"You have many people here who care about you"
I couldnt agree more with your statement. Anyone that takes time out of their day to read and respond to a post, with suggestions to help someone with a problem, does so because they care and want to help. It is usually quite apparent who the "trolls" are in these forums - they usually dont have any advice/put others down/use fowl language etc. etc.
bip: I am suprised you took offence at my post to you. April: it also appears you took some offence as evidenced by your comment "don't worry about what some people may say". When someone has a mental illness (as most people do that post in this forum) it is not inappropriate for an outsider to suggest the poster get the help they need from a trained professional. When someone has posted well over 100 times on essentially 3 seperate topics it is evident that support from members of these forums alone is not enough to solve the underlying problem. When the poster has also stated numerous times that they have an anxiety disorder, suggesting that they see someone that actually specializes in that area is not an idea that should be dismissed lightly.
I couldnt agree more with your statement. Anyone that takes time out of their day to read and respond to a post, with suggestions to help someone with a problem, does so because they care and want to help. It is usually quite apparent who the "trolls" are in these forums - they usually dont have any advice/put others down/use fowl language etc. etc.
bip: I am suprised you took offence at my post to you. April: it also appears you took some offence as evidenced by your comment "don't worry about what some people may say". When someone has a mental illness (as most people do that post in this forum) it is not inappropriate for an outsider to suggest the poster get the help they need from a trained professional. When someone has posted well over 100 times on essentially 3 seperate topics it is evident that support from members of these forums alone is not enough to solve the underlying problem. When the poster has also stated numerous times that they have an anxiety disorder, suggesting that they see someone that actually specializes in that area is not an idea that should be dismissed lightly.
Bip, don't worry about what some people may say. You have many people here who care about you. We know you've had a lot of stress lately and are hurting right now and need someone to talk to. People who have never experienced depression or anxiety a lot of times have no real patience for those who do. I've seen that over and over. I've even been guilty of it. I believe my sister is deeply depressed. She used to call me all the time crying and drinking, and I did get tired of it because she wasn't willing to get help. I love her of course and it breaks my heart to see her so unhappy, but there was only so much I could do. You however, know that you suffer from anxiety and depression and are willing to get help. It's my understanding that you are seeing a counselor?
The fact that you are willingly seeking ways to overcome your anxiety and depression shows me that you want to get better. That's totally different than my sister. All I can do for her is pray, because she won't listen or even admit she has a problem (and there's no way you can tell her she has an alcohol problem!).
I do understand. I've had bouts of anxiety and depression too, especially this last year. I believe God partly allowed me to go through what I did so that I can have more compassion and understanding for others who struggle. I felt very alone. I couldn't talk to or burden my family with what was going on. I didn't want to lean too much on my friends either because it was just too heavy of stuff. Fortunately I found a online prayer support group who helped tremendously. I poured my heart out there more than I did those close to me. It's just easier somehow, you know?
For the first time in my life, I experienced extreme anxiety to the point I was having heart palpitations, stomach problems, ulcers, etc. I think you know what I went through with my daughter if you've read my past posts. I was under an extreme amount of stress. It was the darkest time of my life. It's only by clinging to God and with His grace and many prayers from many people that I began to see the light at the end of the tunnel and things began to get better. It was only as I began to fully lean on God that I began to feel His peace. I don't know what your beliefs are or if you go to church or whatever. All I can say is what worked for me. I don't think I could have made it without the Lord. Don't give up hope, Bip. I'll be praying for you.
The fact that you are willingly seeking ways to overcome your anxiety and depression shows me that you want to get better. That's totally different than my sister. All I can do for her is pray, because she won't listen or even admit she has a problem (and there's no way you can tell her she has an alcohol problem!).
I do understand. I've had bouts of anxiety and depression too, especially this last year. I believe God partly allowed me to go through what I did so that I can have more compassion and understanding for others who struggle. I felt very alone. I couldn't talk to or burden my family with what was going on. I didn't want to lean too much on my friends either because it was just too heavy of stuff. Fortunately I found a online prayer support group who helped tremendously. I poured my heart out there more than I did those close to me. It's just easier somehow, you know?
For the first time in my life, I experienced extreme anxiety to the point I was having heart palpitations, stomach problems, ulcers, etc. I think you know what I went through with my daughter if you've read my past posts. I was under an extreme amount of stress. It was the darkest time of my life. It's only by clinging to God and with His grace and many prayers from many people that I began to see the light at the end of the tunnel and things began to get better. It was only as I began to fully lean on God that I began to feel His peace. I don't know what your beliefs are or if you go to church or whatever. All I can say is what worked for me. I don't think I could have made it without the Lord. Don't give up hope, Bip. I'll be praying for you.
These boards are designed for patient-to-patient support. However, when an individual posts the same question multiple times despite being given numerous suggestions/advice/support then another approach toward becoming well has to be taken - clearly, support from strangers on its own is not resolving the problem.
Anxiety and depression are mental illnesses. A psychiatrist has years of training to HELP people deal with this type of illness. They are trained to make the correct diagnoses and develop a treatment plan which may or may not include medication. No one here has that same training and if they did, they would not be able to diagnose or treat you online. My position is that since the support you have received on this board has clearly done very little to alleviate your concerns, then it is time to see someone that CAN help you.
Scenario: If you obtain a deep cut that was bleeding very profusely, what would you do? Most people would go to the ER for treatment but others may wait and see if the bleeding subsides on its own. If, after 30 mins the cut is still bleeding profusely, treatment is clearly required or the situation could become very dangerous - in fact by waiting, the person has lost more blood and the situation is worse than when it started. An online "friend" can not stitch your wound or even determine whether it needs stitching but they would likely recommended you go to the ER to be seen by a qualified medical doctor that can provide you with the help you need. Now replace "cut" with "anxiety", "blood" with "anxiety symptoms", and "30 mins" with "months" - why would that person not seek professional help? Why is that different to a cut? Both are serious conditions that can lead to very serious complications.
Good luck.
Anxiety and depression are mental illnesses. A psychiatrist has years of training to HELP people deal with this type of illness. They are trained to make the correct diagnoses and develop a treatment plan which may or may not include medication. No one here has that same training and if they did, they would not be able to diagnose or treat you online. My position is that since the support you have received on this board has clearly done very little to alleviate your concerns, then it is time to see someone that CAN help you.
Scenario: If you obtain a deep cut that was bleeding very profusely, what would you do? Most people would go to the ER for treatment but others may wait and see if the bleeding subsides on its own. If, after 30 mins the cut is still bleeding profusely, treatment is clearly required or the situation could become very dangerous - in fact by waiting, the person has lost more blood and the situation is worse than when it started. An online "friend" can not stitch your wound or even determine whether it needs stitching but they would likely recommended you go to the ER to be seen by a qualified medical doctor that can provide you with the help you need. Now replace "cut" with "anxiety", "blood" with "anxiety symptoms", and "30 mins" with "months" - why would that person not seek professional help? Why is that different to a cut? Both are serious conditions that can lead to very serious complications.
Good luck.
".....I cant live like this all my life Im sick and tired of it. "
You need to see a psychiatrist to get help for your anxiety/depression. Posting the same thing in these forums over and over again is not productive as it is clearly not resolving your underlying psychological issues.
Bip, you have a mental illness that you are not able to resolve on your own. If you are truly sick and tired of living like this do something proactive and seek the appropriate help for your condition.
You need to see a psychiatrist to get help for your anxiety/depression. Posting the same thing in these forums over and over again is not productive as it is clearly not resolving your underlying psychological issues.
Bip, you have a mental illness that you are not able to resolve on your own. If you are truly sick and tired of living like this do something proactive and seek the appropriate help for your condition.
A good way to clear you're head is to go for a long run. replace you're anxiety and confused mind with pure exhaustion!
of course you may say well you're already exhausted from work or whatever but running is alot different. its tough on the body and afterwards your body rewards you by blanacing some chemicals and releasing others to recover you're body!
of course you may say well you're already exhausted from work or whatever but running is alot different. its tough on the body and afterwards your body rewards you by blanacing some chemicals and releasing others to recover you're body!
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