Panic Disorder with or without Agoraphobia

[GetReal]

How can you Physicians prescribe or claim to know about drugs such as Lexapro, Celexa, Xanax, Atitvan, etc., and people by into the fact that you are experts because your a "Dr".  Give me a break if you've never had you will never understand it, NEVER, no matter what.  Analogous to that would be, like myself, a chessmaster, going up against a DR in my game, chess, if you've NEVER PLAYED don't even think you would even win one in 100, even blind-folded.  I do understand why you are fooled though.  It's a money making, billions of dollars operation, and if I was to describe or ask you how it affects the physiological portion of my brain, and well as the psychological, you couldn't do it, because you don't understand it, because you've never had it.  So don't even try you're stuff on someone who's had it for any more years than all of your blog chumps below.  I know I won't get a response, because the truth hurts!!!

Sincerely,

GetReal

[snoozies43]

Physicians we are not ..The directory is up there ^ ^ ^ ^.

I don't know ALL physicians..but i can say they have saved my life more than once.

Surely not going to try to advise you, however maybe your hostility should be presented elsewhere.

These folks have been the best support for many who do not have an outlet.

Perhaps the chess game has gotten you a bit frazzled. There is not a forum for frazzeled chess players here. Only for those who wish to keep the players in check.

Ditto's the posts above

[JSGeare]

Get Real, indeed.

First things first: You address "You physicians." This must mean you think there are physicians here. There are none, unless any happen to have the disorder for which the drugs that so discomit you are oft prescribed. You probably want to villify the people on one of the "Ask a Doctor" forums.

I think what you are trying to say is that if someone has never actually used the substance or treatment they are recommending, then they should not be recommending it. Who, then, SHOULD recommend it? You might argue that a medication should simply be distributed to a population, which would instantly qualify anyone in that population who ingested it to speak to its merits. But this would be like saying that distributing chess sets to a population would have the curious effect of making all the recipients who tried it out well qualified to opine on the merits of chess.

But there IS something to what you say, and, in point of fact, the medications ARE distributed to populations of people in order to evaluate their efficacy. And one of the tests of efficacy is to ask the folks who took them how well they thought the pill worked -and this is especially true with "psyhco-active" medications. There's more of course: they also distribute dummy pills (placebos) to see how THEY work and, strange as it may sound, the placebos DO work, compared to those who take nothing at all. Then of course the target population must be sliced and diced statistically: age, income, other conditions, diet ... the list goes on; because, who knows, what works for the fat 30 year old guy may not work so well for the decrepit 60 year old who thinks about green beans and plays with trains (that would be I). The bottom line, here, of course, is that you need not BE a recipient in order to collect and study the results from those who WERE, and from thjose results you might be able to say that "Brand X" is pretty good stuff. Sometimes.

But I suspect that what you are REALLY talking about is some adverse effect YOU'VE experienced  from Brand X and that the prescribing doctor hasn't responded well to your report of the effect (or lack of it). Which brings us back to, "How the devil do YOU know, doc, you've never tried it!?" and the somehwat tortured logic you've expounded to generalize this to the population of doctors who write script all day long.

So, believing that truth is not a bad thing, why not lay out some background here and tell us the story?

Does truth hurt? Sure it does, especially if it is not what we would rather hear. But I hold out to you that ignorance, lying and denial hurt even more.

Can even kill you.

[RubyWitch]

Oh my! You certainly waxed our beans, didn't you?
First of all, I'll assume you are Bobby Fischer writing incognito.
Secondly, you need to back your chessboard up and realize that you are ranting, and being very rude, to the wrong people. You are talking to those of us on the "general forum" and NOT the one that says "Ask the Expert." THAT is where you will find the "real" doctors.
What we are is a group of well meaning folks who suffer or have suffered from many forms of dibilitating anxiety/panic and all sorts of disorders in between. We do NOT prescribe any medications because we are NOT doctors. What we offer are our own experiences and opinions of various meds we have been prescribed, we discuss the side effects we've had, we offer support to those who are having problems with certain meds, we give advice and hope to folks who have hit a brick wall in their search for relief from whatever hell they are trying to deal with. If I don't personally understand what someone is going through, there will almost certainly be many who do. We are here to help each other, to lean on each other, and to learn from each other. Because we DO understand.
I've never thought of myself as a "blog chump," but it has a certain panache to it!
And the truth DOES hurt. I suggest you take two aspirin and don't call me in the morning.
Check mate.
Peace
Greenlydia