Aa
Those not on meds
Can anybody tell me if they are NOT on any meds and dealing with this ****. I refuse to take anything for the anxiety bull but really close to starting. Was prescribed CELEXA any comments on this medication? Good or Bad.
Urda, mein frau (I know this sounds like I'm talking to a bucket of Kentucky Fried Chicken, but I cannot resist)...
Seriously, listen up: take this into your brain and into your heart:
If you refer to my wounds, I must tell you there are no wounds, at least no more. Are there scars? Yes, there are scars and like all scars, they tend to be a bit stronger than the surrounding tissue.
Is there a victory? There is no victory, for in any contest with a victor, there must also be a loser. Inasmuch as the battle is entirely within ourselves, were some part of me to win, then some part must also lose. Let us say, rather, that there is no battle, no fight. no contest, no war. There are no defenses to mount, nor any any cause to be advanced. Rather, there is reconcilation, understanding, appreciation, respect and love for the self, OF the self. Harmony.
Whether that is techically or medically true, I honestly cannot say; what I can say is that is my feeling, my sense of self. If you have read my journals and my wordy responses to others, you will know that my advice is not to win the fight, but rather, to get OUT of the fight. The fight, the contest, the conflict is something entirely of our own creation and therefore the abandonement of the conflict may also be -and, in my belief MUST also be- entirely of our own creation. The beauty is, that it CAN be.
I vote for psychiatry, a skilled guide who can help you pick through all your past experience to learn how you became the way you are so as to unhand yourself of problems rather than to simply manage them. This process does, in fact, involve "management," and medication and all sorts and kinds of things to create and perserve a sense of peace in the interim, while you do the hard work of getting to know yourself. Simple to say, exquistely difficult to do. But an effort whose rewards are well worth the investment you make.
I appreciate your public affirmation of me and the disclosure of what my so-called wisdom or wit may have meant to you; likewise, my response is written not just to you, but to all who watch and wait. I believe you are on your way to the freedom and peace so so richly deserve, and on your way -take a few folks with you, OK?
Seriously, listen up: take this into your brain and into your heart:
If you refer to my wounds, I must tell you there are no wounds, at least no more. Are there scars? Yes, there are scars and like all scars, they tend to be a bit stronger than the surrounding tissue.
Is there a victory? There is no victory, for in any contest with a victor, there must also be a loser. Inasmuch as the battle is entirely within ourselves, were some part of me to win, then some part must also lose. Let us say, rather, that there is no battle, no fight. no contest, no war. There are no defenses to mount, nor any any cause to be advanced. Rather, there is reconcilation, understanding, appreciation, respect and love for the self, OF the self. Harmony.
Whether that is techically or medically true, I honestly cannot say; what I can say is that is my feeling, my sense of self. If you have read my journals and my wordy responses to others, you will know that my advice is not to win the fight, but rather, to get OUT of the fight. The fight, the contest, the conflict is something entirely of our own creation and therefore the abandonement of the conflict may also be -and, in my belief MUST also be- entirely of our own creation. The beauty is, that it CAN be.
I vote for psychiatry, a skilled guide who can help you pick through all your past experience to learn how you became the way you are so as to unhand yourself of problems rather than to simply manage them. This process does, in fact, involve "management," and medication and all sorts and kinds of things to create and perserve a sense of peace in the interim, while you do the hard work of getting to know yourself. Simple to say, exquistely difficult to do. But an effort whose rewards are well worth the investment you make.
I appreciate your public affirmation of me and the disclosure of what my so-called wisdom or wit may have meant to you; likewise, my response is written not just to you, but to all who watch and wait. I believe you are on your way to the freedom and peace so so richly deserve, and on your way -take a few folks with you, OK?
I have to say that your words always bring me to tears. Whether it be from laughter (your wittiness kills me), or sense of encouragement. Although we have written to each other maybe once or twice (which you probably don't remember) I always take your words to heart. I always read all the encouraging things you have to say to everybody in such a way that only the bravest soldier does as he proudly shows off his battle wounds. Only one that has gone through this mental war and has come out victorious as you have can give such great counsel.
With that said, I'm actually supposed to start seeing a psychologist next month to begin Cognitive Behavior Therapy. Is that where I should start? Or do you think I should see a psychiatrist first, so that they can put me on something first?
With that said, I'm actually supposed to start seeing a psychologist next month to begin Cognitive Behavior Therapy. Is that where I should start? Or do you think I should see a psychiatrist first, so that they can put me on something first?
am not taking anything either , i had a bad case of anxiety a year ago, i went on klonopin for two weeks got back on my feet and came off the drugs, if i ever have to i will take the klonopin again it really helped me outy. i walk and keep busy try not to put myself into anxiety mode with everyday living. stay out trouble and away from ones who like trouble. meds are great so dont not help yourself if you need them, you can pull yourself off as you get stronger . i took b-12 shots for 8 weeks did nothing for me.
I may not be well qualified to answer your question, but I'm good at making stuff up, so I'll have a lash at it.
Presently, I am fully recovered from anxiety, panic, ingrown toe nails, belly button lint and all the rest. And I have been so for over 8 years, and expect no recurrence. I've taken no anxiety drugs or any drugs at all (blood pressure excluded) since then. That said, I was a victim from about age 6 or 7 to age 48 or so. And I was a victim in the worst way. I know what its like, I truly do. I'll be 60 in August and I do accept gifts of money.
But about 10 years ago I went into serious therapy with a shrink who counseled with me and handled my medications.
Yes, medications. Medications (Klonopin and others) were the band-aids that put a stop to the disabling effects of panic, so I could live and work and just move about. The therapy was what provided the healing which comes of my own brain just seeing things differently -especially, seeing ME differently. Eventually, the time came to taper off the drugs and fly "solo." And this I did with no ill effects or problems which I can recall.
All that said, there had to be a boundary -a point at which I went from meds to NO meds. And even though I was tapered to the extent that there was no direct impact (that I knew of) from complete cessation, there was still the psychological horizon of being OK with no meds (or else just the "meds" of my own brain juice. It was a non-event. Non-event, because I was so busy living and enjoying my new life that I simply didn't think about ti, except to rejoice that I was taking no meds for nuthin' at all! "How cool is this," I thought to myself -and still DO.
I am not at all sure that I could have made the leap from panic to no panic without the meds -I rather doubt it, in fact. So the lesson is that until your own brain can take over, you use the meds. But you don't use them just to get rid of bad feelings. Rather, you use them as "training wheels" while you learn how to ride in balance by yourself -the work of therapy.
I hope that helps.
Presently, I am fully recovered from anxiety, panic, ingrown toe nails, belly button lint and all the rest. And I have been so for over 8 years, and expect no recurrence. I've taken no anxiety drugs or any drugs at all (blood pressure excluded) since then. That said, I was a victim from about age 6 or 7 to age 48 or so. And I was a victim in the worst way. I know what its like, I truly do. I'll be 60 in August and I do accept gifts of money.
But about 10 years ago I went into serious therapy with a shrink who counseled with me and handled my medications.
Yes, medications. Medications (Klonopin and others) were the band-aids that put a stop to the disabling effects of panic, so I could live and work and just move about. The therapy was what provided the healing which comes of my own brain just seeing things differently -especially, seeing ME differently. Eventually, the time came to taper off the drugs and fly "solo." And this I did with no ill effects or problems which I can recall.
All that said, there had to be a boundary -a point at which I went from meds to NO meds. And even though I was tapered to the extent that there was no direct impact (that I knew of) from complete cessation, there was still the psychological horizon of being OK with no meds (or else just the "meds" of my own brain juice. It was a non-event. Non-event, because I was so busy living and enjoying my new life that I simply didn't think about ti, except to rejoice that I was taking no meds for nuthin' at all! "How cool is this," I thought to myself -and still DO.
I am not at all sure that I could have made the leap from panic to no panic without the meds -I rather doubt it, in fact. So the lesson is that until your own brain can take over, you use the meds. But you don't use them just to get rid of bad feelings. Rather, you use them as "training wheels" while you learn how to ride in balance by yourself -the work of therapy.
I hope that helps.
Thanx so much for that. I'm gonna try it. Do you think its better than just taking the b complex pill it self?
actually i made a post about the juice a while back but i guess it got burried..i think u can find it through my profile
actually ive been drinking this juice called "b monster" from odwalla..its 100% juice made berrys and other stuff..u can google it..ive been drinking half cup in the morning and half cup at night..tastes good and it has helped alot..been drinking it since feb or march and the have only had a few panic attacks..it rally relxes the body so that those lil stomach butterflies dont creep and turn in to a big attack..
Geeez! Well that's that. I guess I won't be try Celexa! I actually just started taking Vitamin B Complex today. My doc recommended that I take it 3x a day. Do you feel a difference with it?
yup been basicly off meds for a year now. but i do take xanax .125 mg when i have a really huge panic attack..but thats only like once every 2 or 3 months. other than that i manage the anxiety by riding it out and gettin plenty of vitamin bcomplex. my experience with celexa..took one pill and had the biggest panic attack ever..lasted 2 weeks..this wasnt generalized anxiety for two weeks it was a full blown panic attack..i would go with a benzo over an antidepressant even if u r depressed. The depression usually is caused by the anxiety..
I tried for 6 months to stay off meds. Took a lot of amino acids (5htp, L-thianine, Sam-e) and "managed" it ok-ish but there were plenty of bad days in between. I'm on Zoloft now and doing fairly well but it hasn't even been 2 weeks yet.
Have an Answer?
You are reading content posted in the Anxiety Community
Find out what can trigger a panic attack – and what to do if you have one.
A guide to 10 common phobias.
Take control of tension today.
These simple pick-me-ups squash stress.
Don’t let the winter chill send your smile into deep hibernation. Try these 10 mood-boosting tips to get your happy back
Want to wake up rested and refreshed?
