Dear Dr. I was diagnosed with vitiligo recently and I came across a book which was actually the only source that provided a root cause for autoimmune diseases. To summarize; the book explained how low stomach acidity caused by H-pylori causes incomplete digestion of food with resultant absorption of large undigested macromolecules into the blood. The blood then produces a widespread antibody response. The widespread antibody response may destroy healthy cells causing autoimmune diseases such as vitiligo. The malabsorption of food also causes deficiency of vitamins such as vitamin B’s and minerals such as zinc and cooper.
The book makes a reference to a Southern Medical Journal 38(4):235-240, April of 1945 which states 90% of Vitiligo patients had little or no stomach Acid, 95% of Alopecia patients had little or no stomach Acid, 100% of Lupus Erythematosis patients had little or no stomach Acid, 89% of Psoriasis patients had little or no stomach Acid, 85% of Urticaria patients had little or no stomach Acid, 74% of Eczema patients had little or no stomach Acid, 87% of Acne Rosacea patients has little or no stomach Acid. The book suggestion on how to kill H-pylori is to acidify the stomach by taking sufficient (large) dosage of Betaine Hydrochloride capsules according to the degree of tolerance for an extended period of time until the stomach is re-trained to produce sufficient acidity. The blood may be conditioned to produce antibodies for several years even though the h-pylori are killed and the acidity is back to a normal level. Patient may not see improvement until the blood antibody response reverses itself and stops producing antibodies. The book is written by A. Schenk, MD.
I think this is an interesting theory and worth considerable attention from the medical community and from the researchers. According the book; currently the researches are focused towards a totally wrong direction such as gens, stem cell and so on. As a vitiligo patient I am trying to raise awareness about this new theory which is vastly unknown to the medical community. I hope someone in the medical community see my plea and conduct research on the link between low stomach acidity, h-pylori and the vitiligo. For a dermatologist the research is easy. All he/she has to do is to test the acidity level of his vitiligo patient and the fact will speak for itself. The test could be done with the use of PH capsule without inserting a tube through the nose.
Thanks for this very interesting information. I am 37, and have had vitiligo for the last 6 years, and hypothyroidism for the last 8-9 years. The vitiligo is spreading rapidly, now very prominent on my face, arms, hands and torso. My traditional primary care physician and multiple dermatologists have not been helpful. I was only offered steroid ointment as a means of treatment, which doesn't address the rapid spread of the disease. At a low point of extreme frustration, I am now very determined to get to the bottom of what is happening with my body. I am seeing an NMD (naturopathic medical doctor) who is also committed to solving this from a systemic perspective. I recently found out that my thyroid levels are still way too high (even on medication) and that I am anemic, both iron and B12 deficient. Based on these results, I am worried that pernicious anemia is also an issue, which I will be exploring further with the doctor at my next visit. Based on all my research, I do think overall something is wrong in the gut, causing all of this, which is also what the NMD suspects. Your post has potentially helped me connect some dots... I have printed it out and will take it to my NMD next week. I was unable to locate a book by A. Schenk, MD... what is the title and do you know where you can find it? If what you are saying is true, I am so puzzled why the medical community isn't more motivated to look at things from a systemic perspective. Thanks again.
Hi, great find, I haven't looked for the book but I posted the link to the original article to my gingerjens blogspot. I have an article about the dietary connections between iodine and melanin and vitiligo.
I am convinced that "autoimmune" activity is due to the body trying to fight some infection. Trevor Marshall, a biomedical engineer from Australia, has developed an antibiotic protocol that effectively reduces the infection load and autoimmune symptoms for a variety of conditions. While there are different bacteria involved in the wide variation of autoimmune conditions the treatment he developed seems to work for many of them (although he doesn't believe in need for extra iodine - I had cured my undiagnosed hypothyroidism in 2005 before finding his antibiotic regime). The Marshall Protocol is not a 'cure' but a remission.
I do believe that while autioimmune disease isn't "contagious" in the typical sense of the word, that it is contagious through exchange of body fluids or organs. I stopped donating blood when I learned of the bacterial nature of my migraine/ fibromyalgia/ environmental chemical sensitivity problems. The medical community is convinced that gene and drug manipulation of the body is 'the answer" and that autoimmune degeneration is a natural part of aging. If that were so, then why are so many born with it or develop problems as little kids? It seems like the medical industry stopped paying for research or looking in other directions besides drug manipulation and surgery. We are developing ways to grow brain cells in petri dishes to then be re-injected into brains . . . for a price. It would be nice if some research went into how to grow brain cells in brains.
I was on a low dose of antibiotics for a year and a half around 2008 with the help of my family doctor and the directions for the Marshall Protocol.
I haven't had migraines since then. I still have to follow sensible lifestyle habits or my muscle knots get a little worse again.
Nutritionally many things are involved. Iodine is essential but other nutrients would be needed in addition. If hyperthyroidism has already developed then more caution is needed. I think iodine would still be important in order to help the body remove fluoride, bromide and chloride that may have been used to build malfunctioning thyroid hormone. Selenium is probably needed first to help restore levels of the enzyme necessary to break down excess thyroid hormone. Start with selenium and other nutrient support (B vitamins, magnesium, zinc, and chromium are also important to enzyme function) and then increasing the iodine might be safer.
What isn't recognized by current standard care is that the body can produce dysfunctional thyroid hormone with fluoride, bromide and perchlorates. The lab tests are fooled but the body and uncomfortable symptoms aren't fooled. Fluoridated tyrosine can be a direct inhibitor of melanin production and the thyroid hormone is basically tyrosine with an extra 6 carbon ring attached with 3 or 4 "iodine" atoms. If there was never adequate iodine available since birth and the glands of the body had to develop with whatever was in the diet, then chances are that those lab tests are measuring a molecule that has 3 or 4 atoms of fluoride, bromide or chloride. Chemically the four atoms react the same but function in the body goes from promoting growth and increasing energy levels, to inhibiting activity and possibly promoting cancer or "autoimmune" degeneration/death of the cells involved - like melanocytes in the case of vitiligo.
Feed your body well and it can rebuild - how to feed the body well has been part of the problem. Our nation's diet advice and nutrient guidelines are also based on some underlying guesses and research that took a wrong turn in the past. The problem is in the complicated-ness - feeding the body well is not as easy as recommending steroid cream or drawing a food pyramid symbol.
My website is a bit messy but I am just volunteering the information on my own time in my living room, because I hate to see the suffering and medical waste produced by all the wrong answers and blame. I really hate that patients are blamed for not getting better, for not trying hard enough, for whatever - not that the drug and surgery approach might not be working - that is as big a secret as the fact that we 'aren't' in a recession. Shhh
Could you post the title of the book, if you have it? - the article specifically is about B vitamins and lack of stomach acid and the various skin conditions. The book with the H pylori connection would be helpful.
The article is great though. J. Richard Allison, MD, of Columbia, South Carolina, makes the connection that white rice and flour and refined corn was the root change he noticed underlying an increase in the health problems of his community. He recommends switching back to whole grains as the first step towards repair. And he treats the variety of skin conditions with the same regimen of (1 dram ?) hydrochloric acid at meals to aid digestion and uses B vitamin supplements until the condition improves and then he expects the switch back to whole grains to suffice once the acute skin condition had been addressed. He is not a fan of dependence on vitamins and seems to suggest that they would be used by people as an excuse to eat badly. (April 1945)
I'm not sure what the equivalent apple cider vinegar would be to 1 dram hydrochloric acid but I have read of the use of a little apple cider vinegar water with meals. My grandma served homemade zuchini bread and butter pickles, dilly beans, or regular pickled cucumbers with meals. One small serving of a pickled food or vinegar on a salad would probably be enough to aid digestion in people who may be prone to be low acid producers. Producing less stomach acid with meals is associated with aging.
Polished rice and refined flours not only lost their B vitamins, they also lost their phospholipids and essential fats. Good fats and emulsifying phospholipids are crucial to membrane production (skin is a bigger membrane made up of lots of cells and their membranes).
Sometimes old news (eat whole grains) is still good news.
Just one of many therories. So at the same time holistic Drs everyware are saying anything gluten is bad -0 the cause of autoimune, this guy says its good. I think its all depends on the individual. To many unproven therories.
How can one have no stomach acid and live? Never heard of that.
Low stomach acid is very common with hypothyoid, as it slows the whole body down.
I have vitaligo and Hashimoto hyothyroid.
I've had an h-pylori test in the past when my GERD was terible- tested negative.
Acid was low, upped thyroid meds made it better, my whole body better. And digestive enzymes with hcl now and then after eating gerd producing foods- like over the holidays.
It no problem to live without stomach acid... bceause main digestion take part in small intestine... but without hcl your digestion will be partly... partly like yours health... You made Helicobacter testing and it is negative I will be not so sure... I have done igg which was positiv later gastroscopy with clo test which came back negativ, two times stool antigen test both negative and lastly gastroscopy with histology which came back positiv but with low density of HP organism... hmmmmmmmm but with that low density of HP I have some mild chronic gastritis... maybe checking igg antibodies against HP is good solution, when it is positiv and you dont taken large amount antibiotics there is almost 100% chances that you still have activ infection, when gstroscopy show some gastritis it will quite good proof that hp is still present, even thought test can be negative... all test are good for some massive infection and can miss some low grade colonization...
-Many would disagree with that statement. Do you have any personal experience with what low stomach acid feels like? I do, it was hard to eat.
This is why so many people on acid reducing drugs have problems digesting, when in fact their digestion problem was actually low acid production. Stomach acid also kills bad things entering the stomach. Untreated or under-treated hypothyroid can result in low stomach acid production, and is a primary reason these people can have acid reflux and IBS. When higher T3 hormone levels are achieved , these digestion symptoms can resolve.
I would agree it is possible for H-pylori testing to be inaccurate, many lab tests are inaccurate.
IgG antibodies are correlated with clinical food allergy signs - what is the link with H Pylori?
I had a Gastroscopy procedure with the camera down my throat, stomach, nothing was found.
As we age, our natural production of digestive enzymes diminishes, making it more likely to have incompletely digested food and lowered stomach acid. Digestive enzymes create a more acidic environment in the stomach.
With less stomach acid, the pyloric valve (leading to the small intestine) becomes sluggish, or may not even open (in severe cases) to let food pass through. You need to have enough stomach acid to "trigger" the pyloric valve to open. Otherwise, undigested food and stomach acid can be forced up into the esophagus, (GERD) or even regurgitated.
Taking digestive enzymes can resolve GERD for many people. Taking antacids only perpetuates the problem, and may lead to other problems, such as "leaky gut"; food hypersensitivities from undigested proteins "leaking" through the intestinal wall into circulating blood.
My son has secondary hypothyroidism, occasional reflux, and tested very high for H. pylori two years ago. He was treated with Flagyl and probiotics.
He also had a high ANA at the time, 1:1280, which was down to 160 when it was retested a year later. He has not yet repeated an H.Pylori test.
Yes - I think you are on to something. I first got HPylori - (from a partner) , I started having stomach pains, then the Vitilago started. I never had it my whole life then suddenly in my late 30's -Bam.
I have taken so many supplements and been able to somewhat control it, but it was with raw aloe, B vitamins, and host of others supplements.
I do REMBER a live blood doctor putting me on digestive enzymes a few times a day for months and I was getting better. I bet it was giving me the acid I needed, or at least helping me digest what I have been unable to do own my own since I was intro diced to the HP bug. I really think you are on to something here. -----
I am going to try acidophilus at night.
Apple cider vinegar and HCI
Hi. Sorry, I didn't see your post, asking if my son has had vitiligo, until now.
No, he doesn't have vitiligo, and never has. However, he's been on a corticosteroid for five years, for adrenal insufficiency, which would control inflammation and cause some degree of immune suppression.
Do you know whether or not the steroid would make any difference? I was wondering if there might be a genetic predisposition to a likelihood of developing vitiligo, which my son doesn't have.
None of his doctors have tried to nail down the cause of his high ANA (inflammation was suspected), but I'm glad it came down to 160, from 1280!
أI want to say something here... This study done way back in the 40's.!!! and its true for one reason... (at least its a good reason for me!) No one in my family have vitiligo and I had it last year! ... Couple months ago I read this article in different website and I asked my self ... What would I lose if I made the breath test and blood test? so I done its and I found out ..bamm! I have HP 12 time more than the normal!!
If i will be cured from vitiligo then I will sue every dermatology in the world from hiding this truth because imagine if every vitiligo patient will be cured... How much money doctors will lose??
Vitiligo affect 1% to 2% of the population and see how many people will have vitiligo? or Alopecia? each treatment between Laser and supplement cost a lot... I done all of them! ( Laser treatment for 15 minuts cost $200 and the cheapest oil supplement coast $80 ) imagine how many sessions and oil crap you need? not counting the diet food that most likely is more expensive than the junk food!
My point is No dermatology Dr. will help you to establish this study because they live on people like you and me.... I wish from every one to support this study.
wish all of you the best
p.s sorry for the grammer mistakes!
There are sudies that show cerain B vitamins can stop and reverse vitaligo. B-PABA (a folic acid?) and one other not so common B vitamin are the ones needed.
I just started B-PABA, see if there is an improvment 6 months from now.
Had a second H-Pylory test, again negative. Not everyone with vitaligo has H-Pylori. I would say moe common is some type of digestive deficiency- goes with a lot of autoimmune issues. H-Pylori is just one.
you are right, But H-plyori can be found in the stomach and also different places near the stomoah! one test mean nothing... To determine If you have it or not you need to do 3 tests!
It's all about greed and the big pharmaceutical companies. We are having the same problem with medical cannabis treatment for chronic pain and fibromyalgia. Follow the money every time and you will find your answers. No profit to make if we make you better! But we (pharma) can Make you a synthetic cannibus laced with more toxins and pesticides, that would be legal. But not nature's own natural remedy in plant form. My twin granddaughters have vitiligo, that's why I'M here looking for the latest treatments. These comments have been very helpful. Thank you! And btw, medical cannibus has some wonderful benefits for digestive/acid issues!
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