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My husband just had this surgery on Jan. 2. they went in from the front, replaced 2 discs with synthetic or cadaver bone and secured them. He will wear a soft collar for about a month. He can't drive for a month. He has some shoulder shoulders intensive treatment Shoulder arthroscopy Shoulder pain pain , b ut otherwise is doing very well. He's been up and around since the eveningEvening primrose Evening primrose oil of the surgery, but he isn't allowed to bend or lift anything over 10 pounds. This is a relatively common surgery that apparently usually has good results. Good luck if you hav it done.
zodiac4: Did your husband have a cervical disc replacement or was it a discectomy and fusion? There are now replacement discs approved for the cervical spine, though I don't think many doctors are doing them yet. These are what I'm trying to get info on. The one I've heard good things about is the ProDisc-C, but information sources are limited, so I thought I'd ask on this site. Hope your husband recovers quickly. Jolene
just had c5-6 c6-7 removed and fused. suceess. was better that day. i had pain for 1 day was in surgery the following week and am running again six weeks after. it's not that complicated folks. use your brains.
After having 2 cervical disk surgeries, I thought your answer about using your brains to be very nonchalant about a very serious surgery. Yes, many people do have success with their surgery but others do not. My pain was relieved after both of mine but returned the first time after a year and a month and the second time after 6 months. I thought I was perfectly fine after my surgery too. If I were you, I wouldn't be quite as confident about my feeling well. I too felt wonderful and was able to run, exercise, etc. for a short while and then the incredible pain returned. Beware of taking this surgery too lightly. It is worth it for the time that you have without pain, but be careful of speaking too soon about how great you feel.
My uncle had 3 on C level fusion back in the mid 80's. He came through just fine after a long healing process. He was in his late 50's then. I believe they went through the front and he had to wear a collar for awhile. I believe the surgeries done now come out much better and the "tools" and "substances" used have come a long way. On his they used some of his hip bone for the fusion. He complained more about hip pain than neck pain. Good Luck with your surgery and don't take it as lightly as other poster did. Everyone is different in the way they heal and some push themselves through the pain when they should not.
I just had an artificial disc inserted C5/C6 on January 25. There are no artificial discs approved by the FDA yet, you have to get into a clinical study. The clinical study I'm in compares the Kineflex C artificial disc with standard discectomy and fusion. There are a few studies out there comparing two different discs. I was lucky to randomize into the study group, but was in so much pain I would have been happy with a fusion.
I was in hospital overnight, came home with oral pain meds which I had cut the dosage in half by day 4. I'm not taking any now. On Feb 2 I saw my doc and we dumped the neck brace. I can do pretty much what I want to, but am a little stiff and sore in my shoulders and the back of my neck. The incision is in the front, about 1" long. I still need to take it easy for several more weeks, but can drive, work, and do non-jarring exercise at will.
Go to http://clinicaltrials.gov/ to learn more. Good luck!
I had C5 and C6 done 9-13-06. They put in a titanium disc and steal cage (plate) It worked great. No coller and was walking six miles on my third week. Some stiffness not bad. If I overdo it I hurt some but manage the pain.
Hi, I am 29 year old. For no apparent reason, I have moderate disc herniations at 3 levels, C4-C5, C5-C6, and C6-C7. Currently, I have slight pain/tingling in my left arm. I am feeling depressed having this problem at such an young age. I live in DC. Both Neuro and spine surgeons recommeded Cervical disc surgery. So I might have the surgery in about a month or two. Someone, please let me know the longterm impact of the surgery. Please post any more info, I may need to know.
I had the Kineflex disc inserted C5/C6 also - On April 10. I am still in a lot of pain in neck and shoulders and taking vicodin and valium. Experiencing severe headaches again and some symptoms in arms and hands as well.
How are you doing now? Have you had any problems? Dr. is recommending biofeedback for me.
Thanks.
Carol218
I had c4-7 fused and had titanium plating and bone grafting. The surgery went well, but I am experiencing bilateral arm pain and pain in my shoulder blades. i know the surgery had to be done , It was done at Akron general medical center by a neurosurgoeon
Check out the Prestige Artificial Cervical Disc Replacement. It was approved late summer. I heard from Tammylin that she was in the trial and has pain again, possibly because doc did not remove all spurs when he did the surgery. I am having it done soon, my doc happened to be one doing it, or I would not have known about it! If your doc doesn't do it, he will probably recommend what he is familiar with. Also, the same company is now working on multiple levels. I did not want fusion, was willing to wait and deal with it like you, but am excited that motion is kept and also adjacent discs are not under more pressure as with fusion. The web site lists surgeons that have the training. Good luck to you and to me also.
i just had artificial cervical disc replacement done on c5\c6 on nov 12, it has now been a week. I am doing well so far, pain in shoulders and back of neck and incision area but that is to be expected. I am hopeful this will work for me, my doctor only does this on patients in good health otherwise and having good bone structure. She said the day of surgery that there is also a chance that when she gets in there the disk might not fit and she would have to do fusion instead. These disks only come in a few sizes. I had my surgery done by Dr Joan O'Shay in Marlton, NJ. I will answer any questions that you have.
I have just had c4/c5 disc replacement & c5/c6 acdf and I cannot really say how i am feeling at the moment other than in real discomfort.but its only 3 days since surgery I have noticed that my burning sensation in my legs has disappeared but I still seem to getting alot of nerve pain so I will have to update further in a couple of days to see if any further changes.I know something I wouldnt wish this on anyone .
I am about to have CDR on my C5-C6 on Feb 5th. I already had a Posterior Lamino Framenotomy on my C6. With my Profesion, I am at much higher risk for re injury than most people, and well yeah I reinjured it, and my nuero surgeon gave this as an option and it sounds decent, my question is what is the rehab like, because he said i would be back to functional in 6 weeks with no rehab, but with this I'm not so sure about "no rehab" so i was just wondering.
I had artificial disc replacement but in lumbar L4/5....done by one of the "best" doctors in the world...so advertised.. I spent entire year after ADR in bed, couldnt sit or stand, in horrific pain. My surgeon (in Germany, Straubing) said that he doesnt see any problem...while all other doctors from USA, France, Netherlands, UK and even Germany-clearly could see that the disc that was put in me is almost 2X too tall and prior to the surgery I had a collapsed disc (bone on bone) and degenerated hyperthrophied facets-which are absolute contraindications to the ADR. I had a revision done 3 months ago and it was the most horrid surgery that anyone could imagine...Having hard time recovering.
Before going for ADR, please, research as much as possible about contraindications and you conditions. I am posting on a different forum and there are number of people who either had a revision after ADR or are still searching for answers there...My username there Job13 and the topic name 'One year hell ADR in Germany. Revision Prodisc to fusion'.
http://spinesupport.org/simplemachinesforum/index.php
I found a lot of very useful info there about ADRs and fusions...prons and cons. Check it out-it might be useful to learn more before going into the surgery! I dont want anyone ending up like me, at 33 y.o....
I actually have found a wonderful pain management doctor who has done radio frequency and cauterized the nerve endings in my neck. For a while, I had no pain at all but it has returned and I plan to have this procedure done again. You may want to check this out. It may not work for everyone but has been a lifesaver for me.
The doctor goes in your neck like having an epidural and uses a fluroscope to cauterize the nerve endings using radio frequency. I am not sure how many doctors do this, but for me it has been a lifesaver. Check out the pain management doctors in your area to see if any of them do this. If so, it might be worth your time to meet with them and discuss the possibilites of this helping you.
The Prestige is the only one at this point that is FDA approved and just recently. It can also only be used on one level as it is too bulky. I am having this surgery done on 2/21 so can't tell you what it's like after.... yet. But I have multiple problems C4/5 C5/6 C6/7 - mostly suffer from chronic headaches and neck pain for the last 8 years. Waited for this as fusing all three discs would have left me unable to move my neck and I am only 43 and didn't want to go there. If you have other questions, I would be happy to help if I can.
I am having disc repacement surgery c5/c6, shitting myself 38 years old, really do not want to go through with it but can not stand the pain.
anybody had this treatment done?
don't worry,Make sure you know the facts synthic cervical discs are out
there pro disc c find a doctor that does them. if you get fusion doctors using tebeckar steel for bone graph has a high fusion rate.
if you got the money go to germany. In the US the fda will not use studies/results form the other
countries even though most of the synthic discs are made here in US(Medtronics) for onelevel.Single level fusion pro disk c has been approve call the company and see who doing it nearest you I wish
it woud have been available to me. I have had c5/c6 fuse and as above statements this has gone south after a year and now c4 disc isnow going. What we have going for us is an inefficent FDA
where there is help out there but we cannot get it.
I'm messed up from C2-C7. Some levels worse than others. Plus the wonderful osteophytes. I'm having a discogram next week to see if my screwy discs are what's causing my grief. If it's discs, my surgeon will be using the ProDisc-C...which was FDA approved last year. Even though they are now approved, the trouble lies with insurance coverage. Not too many carriers are covering it yet.
I have disc degen. at C3-4,a congenital fused C4-5, degen. disc and left sided herniation at C5-6 and bulging disc at C6-7. Neurosurgeon is recommending ant. discectomy and fusion at C3-4 and C5-6. I'm looking at the Spinal Kinetics M6 ADR as an alternative (this is a German product). Any experience out there with this disc replacement?
Badneck: Just would like to correct you that the M6 by spinal Kinectics is a Sunnyvale, California based company and not a German one. The installation is in Germany at this time, but I beleive that M6 is being installed in teh U.S. now on a clinical trials. This M6 is so new so I don't know how its going to hol dup, but sometimes people have no other options. I wish yuou best of luck.
How come the Lamino-Forominatomy didn't work? Did it hurt alot after surgery? Plaese tell me something about the lamino foraminatomy since I am thinking of doing this first before ADR. Thanks
I'm also supposed to have disc replacement c5-c6-also scared-but I did the physical therapy-the chiropractors-spinal epidurals-all the meds-very sick of morphine-loosing lots of weight from pain-so there is no other choice.My surgeon is having me get cat scans and X-rays tomorrow-already have MRI-if he says -no surgery-which I doubt I know I can't live with this pain.--Good-Luck to you all-we are all in the same way -we will be O.K.
under the right conditions and ACDF is the gold standard of care. For the most part they are a slamdunk for the surgeon. What it comes down to is personal preference, donor bone, hip graft, or now ADR. Their is a greater benefit from a CERVICAL ADR, than a Lumbar ADR, the revision procedure. It is more complicated to revise a lumbar ADR, and as for right now, there is not a great implant out there. As for a cervical ADR if anything goes wrong there is always the "gold standard" as a bail out, an ACDF. However, there is only one implant that has proved not only equality, but in some cases superority to a fusion if the Medtronic Prestige. However, getting your insurance provider to pay for it is another story. If it were uo to me. ADR is the way to go, and I would fight my insurance company to pay for it, or pay out of pocket
The Framinotomy did relieve the symptoms I was having. The pain and weakness I was having in my neck and right arm were no longer constant and maybe would flare up after a really hard workout. To be perfectly honest about what I do, I am in the military right now, and my training definitely consists of boots runs, kevlar/FLAK runs, humps with on average 80 pounds of weight, and then even Endurance runs of over an hour with about 30-40 pounds of weight. So all of that was actually doing ok for me. I was able to actually re-start my training and get back to it. After about a month into a 6 month training cycle I was doing really well, however one PT session involving a "fire-mans carry" with another person my size with gear across my neck/shoulders re injured myself.
I think I read on this site that there is still a 10-15% chance of re injury in normal every day life with these procedures, I think that factor goes up considerably with my profession, depending on what we do. With that said, I know plenty of guys, with fusions and even ADR that are doing bang up jobs right now.
I just got mine done on 2/5 and I will say this the initial recovery form surgery was a lot better than the framinotomy, but I haven't seen any improvement. So that is a big fat dagger........... in the neck. I would say go for the Framinotomy first, the initial recovery will suck more, but you won't have a peice of steel in your neck, no matter how miraculous people say the prestige or whatever that thing is. If you want to know about my rehab type stuff, I was doing all of that stuff I mentioned above, plus "Cross-Fit" type workouts. I did not however do any of the actual "Fire-man" carries during rehab that did injure me. SO I would say stay away from major back squats in the gym once you get back to that. Good luck, I know I will need some.
My husband is currently trying to decide between a fusion and a ADR surgery. Right now he has a ruptured disc at the L4-5 and has been diagnosed with DDD for 7 years. He has tried PT, medications, and 3 steriod injections in 2 months. The doctor finally recommended surgery but we are having trouble getting the ADR approved - now with reading different stories we are scared about either surgery. He is only 29 years old and is worried about the shelf life the of ADR or the complications of the fusion. Any helpful ideas on how to choose?
37 yr old I had spinal kinetic M6 done at C5-C6 in Germanay,2/22/08. doctors here unable to offer any treatment b/c of multilevel disease and they thought I need 3 level ADR no one recommended ACDF
I did had 3 level DDD C3-C7 by Discogram but doctors at stenum who did the surgery recommended one level ,they did intraoperative testing other levels looked fine so only replaced my herniated DISC C5-C6 now 4 wk out still going through neck and shoulder pain , shooting pain at the hand level better, even emptying the dishwasher aggrevate the pain for me. like to know who had the Cervical ADR 's how long it take them not to feel any pain at all.
Just as an overview,
1. Artificial Disc Replacement is new and as such doesn't have a lot of known long-term outcomes. Some longterm studies exist, but the styles of hardware keep changing so it's hard to judge. Most in the US seem to do very well. The upside is: the neck has to move a lot and if you fuse it (especially at multiple levels) is less favorable for young people because it causes adjacent levels to degenerate (wear) faster, so you avoid those early arthritis problems (at least in theory) with disc replacement. There are stricter criteria for who can have a disc replacement. It should be done by spine surgeons experienced in disc replacements.
2. ACDF (fusion) is the gold standard and has very good outcomes for the vast majority of middle age and older folks, but if you're highly active or young, it is less favorable because it can lead to early breakdown of adjacent parts of the spine.
3. ALWAYS insist on having physical therapy after surgery, whether fusion or disc replacement. Some doctors are fishy about this, and it seems silly. There may be a period you need to wait after surgery for therapy, but disc/spinal degeneration ALWAYS has a postural component, and if you fixate the neck or replace the disc without retraining posture and movement, you will certainly develop early degeneration of the spine and increase risk of wearing out replacement discs. This will lead to poor long-term satisfaction and new problems which may not easily be fixed with surgery...you may not even be a candidate for repeat surgery. Always request physical therapy following spinal surgery.
I am having cervical disc replacement in two weeks.C5/6-6/7.I am really scared.I have had four surgery's in the past but the whole cutting my neck and altering the spine is scaring me.I have been through it all physical therapy,chiropractors,spinal epidurals,went off morphine after three months was making me crazy.I 'm in so much pain mostly because of my job.I am a woman who has always worked heavy (so called mens )jobs for 22 years.Now I know that was a big mistake.Plus I suppose I smoked in the past (11 years ago)and my Mom is 83 crippled in a wheel chair.(spinal stenosis)she had a bad back surgery in Arizona.This all adds to why I have degenerative discs and bone spurs.Please anyone who had this for severe neck pain,headaches,numbness in hands but mostly severe pain after lifting or over doing things at work -please write back-thanks-----
anyone heard of BLACKSTONE Discs? My doc said I qualify for the trial in May. From what I hear, insurance is a ***** about replacements. c5-c6. Scared but in pain!
My doctor wants me to have the Prestige Disc Replacement Fusion.
I am 53 and pretty active. He has only done 3 before. You said
you had yours done in Nov, 2007, how are you doing. Would you
do it again. My is the cervical 6-7 disc. I am going to try more physical
therapy first
Had the surgery two months ago two discs replaced C5/6-6/7-still sore and achy,but not the kind of pain I had before the surgery.Most of the numbness in my hands has gone away.its still hard to sleep.I go to physical therapy 3x a week.I'm still out of work.I was real scared to have the surgery.If you have tried everything,like I did its the only answer.my doctor said I won't be 100%.But it takes a long time for the discs to fuse together.Good Luck to you all!!!
I had a medtronic prestige cervical C5/C6 disc replacement. I have alot of pain in my neck. I had the operation on the 4th and it is now the 7th. I had to go to the urgent care center about 12 hours(4am) after my one night hospital stay. Histericly crying and screaming in pain due to swelling in my neck and it was almost imposible to swallow. A steriod for inflamation (inflammation) and some valum was perscribed.
I had classic pain symptoms since I slipped at work and twisted in a forceful maner I dont think i could do again if i tried a freak accident. I have been in agressive and passive therapy for 9 months 3 days a week and light dutie. I tried to keep pain meds as low as possible but as symptoms wordned after agressive treatment i saw a new doctor. That was a pain specialist. He was the one the discoverd that my pain was refered from c5/c6. We did an mri and discogram showing a level 5 tear in my disc.
24 hours after surgery symptoms of pain/numbness in hands gone. Refered pain in middleback and between shoulderblades much better but still there defainatly better than before.
I have heard from doctors and many medical journals that a disk replacement will last 10 years. I am 30 so this was a big worry. However looking at the medical advacment in the past 50 years is amazing even in the last 10 years. Robotic arms to do brain surgery, stem cells growing new teath, and posibly a new disc of my own cells could be mine. I took a leap of faith that this replacement will get me to my 40's and we will see what happens maybe it lasts 20 years or 30. Only time will tell. I bookmarked this page and I am willing to continue my progress and tribulations.
I would say aside from whereing a Aspen neck collar that feels as if im being slightly choked I am quite optimistic. My advice to you is get a doctor that will listen to you needs and manage your pain. You will have a longer recovery in my opinion if your heading to the ER every other day for screaming pain.
Thanks for listening,
Eric
p.s. My spelling and english as an art is lost in translation for me so i hope it still makes sence. perhaps you may get a chuckle or two off the new spelling of many words.
i had the prestige 2 cervical disk replacement done in november 2007 on c5 and c6. surgery went verry well and i was working again in a month as a truck driver. i still have pain in my neck and shoulders and still take lortab and soma when not at work. even though i still have pain it's much better than how it was before. i would recomend this surgery to anyone as i have kept the mobility in my neck and thats verry important in my job. the only probem is they can only do this on one level so i'm looking at having fusions done on other levels. i hope this will help anyone thinking of having this done.
i had repair of C4-5. the disks were laying on my spinal cord.i had surgery on april 1, 20008.i was feeling pretty good until i accidently put a dish of water down on my front porch for my dog and stood up and hit the back of my head on a hanging basket.now my neck aches and my head feels heavy.i called the Dr and the nurse told me to take an antiinflammatory and vicodin.i'm hoping that my symptoms will ease up.it's only been a week since i did this, thanks for listening Den
i had 2 operationson the disk in my neck c4 and c5 three weeks apart, the first surgery left me jerking and shaking all over the pain in my head, neck shoulder and arm was hell living hell, the second surgery with a different Dr was better. the first DR is DR Yanzie he has been thrown out of our hospital in toledo, oh. please check you nero surg out throughly. I am now still having electric shock feeling and pain in same areas, i have been on perks for 2 years now and anti depressants what a life. every thinks this is a simple surgery but the wrong Dr will leave your life a mess, Can anyone tell me if they know what I mean by electrical shock feeling? makes me feel like I am going crazy, my Dr tells me the first Dr screwed a screw into my nerve, HELP me with ANY advice.. delilah.servoss@yahoo
It's been 3 and 1/2 months since my surgery C5/6 6/7 replaced.Still out of work,still going to physical therapy(over 2 months) My muscles are very sore.The left side of my neck hurts and is stiff.Also I have the pins and needles(electric shock) feeling all down the left side of my back.Oh,I'd rather have all this then what I felt before the surgery,but my surgeon says my muscles took on bad habits,over all the years of my pain.He warned me I would'nt be 100%,but now says work at being the best I can.I am trying.So I understand all your comments about electric shocks and aches,I think most important is to keep moving.I take Klonopin at night.It's not an easy surgery but if you have no choice--------
I have spinal cord compression & disc degeneration at C4/C5. My neurosurgeon just recommended ADR with the ProDisc C. I also have lumbar degeneration but he is saying not to touch that yet, since the spinal cord itself is not affected by that. He says he's done 12 surgeries in the past year (since the device was approved). Waiting to hear about insurance coverage. Right now I have moderate pain and nerve symptoms (numbness, tingling, etc.). I'm not so nervous about the surgery itself, but am wondering about how the device has worked out for others. I am otherwise in good health, strong, I exercise regularly. Any thoughts? Thanks...
I have already had an ACDF in c5-6 and doctor is recommending a cervical disc replacement between c6-7 due to another moderate herniation. My symptoms include rolling neck/shoulder pain, numbness in both left and right arms/hands, numbness and tingling in left leg and "hot flashes" in right leg. Also minor lower back pain. Obviously I am past all conservative treatment such as physical therapy, injections, and decompression. Currently on a regimen of lyrica, celebrex, zanaflex and percocet to control nerve pain. I'm wondering if there is anyone who has already had a fusion and then done the disc replacement as well. If so, what were the results?
I had my c6-7 disk replaced with a ProDisc C device on August 8, 2008. Initially I had relief of my pain. I went home after 23 hours in the hospital and felt better than I had in months. Mr Dr suggested that I take Advil for a few weeks to try and offset the spontaneous fusion that sometimes occurs. Yes folks... even if you have disk replacement the disks can still spontaneously fuse together. Even though my Dr told me to stop after 2 weeks I have been taking Advil regularly because I am so frightened that the disks will fuse. Lately when I skip a dose of Advil I notice stiffness in the back of my neck. My last set of x-ray looked good so I will see what he says about the stiffness at my one month appointment.
To all of you thinking about disk replacement: I have had a good experience. I am happy with the results. However, there is not a lot of known information about the procedure. I have heard some "I just cannot answer that" and "nobody really knows that for sure" from my doctor (who I add is the most arrogant man I have ever met.) Yes it has been done in Europe for longer than the US. However there have not been extensive studies anywhere. I am 37 years old and I need for this device to last for 50 years or so. There is much more theory than proven fact. It took me a long time to come at peace with the fact that theoretically I will be OK in the long term. This is something I will be reminded of for the rest of my life. Even if this stiffness goes away and I never again have any pain in my neck, I will still never make it through a metal detector. Think, chose your doctor carefully, do lots of research and make sure you see a great physical therapist first.
Feel good.
I had ADR surgery C6 C7 in April 2008 Results are very Good I had 5 months of work to recover, back working offshore no problems no pain or numbness so far, started working out again and swimming thing are looking a lot brighter.
Good luck to all
"Nobody likes a pain in the neck"
I'm Shelly and I have had surgery twice now on my neck so in total Ive had 3 cervical discs replaced and now they have been fused, the first time round one of the dics slipped forward and I have felt terrible.since surgery this time I havent felt too good i have terrible neck pain and the base of my head hurts My legs are terrible {I get a burning sensation going through them all the time this drives me mad} Also as soon as I start doing anything my fingers are black and my hand is looking a bit like a claw as my fingers turn in.Does anyone else suffer with bad legs/hands.look forward to comparing notes spk agan soon
I am curious if you were in a study or has FDA finally granted approval for multi level ADR? If not in a study, who did your surgery? I'm having trouble finding anyone that has done multilevel surgery thats not affiliated with a trial?
I had 2 discs replaced c4 and c5 about a year ago.
I was off work 8 weeks, maintenance work in a factory.
I have had NO problems with the neck since apart from what i call cramp in muscle near my left shoulder blade.
I have Photos of the discs if you are interested.
Best thing i have ever done , NO PAIN.
Regards Jeff
I've had a fusion at C3/4, C4/5 in 1990. Great op, no pain until I had a fall in 1999. Had arm, shoulder, neck pain and headaches. Scans showed ruptured 5/6 and 6/7 discs. Dr talked me into having Bryan Disc replacements. Felt great at first then after 10 months of more pain, headaches etc discovered the f.......g nuero had replaced a wrong disc!! He took out 6/7 and C7/T1! My neck has shortened, swollen at the front, really bad headaches, mostly 4days each week, neck, arm & shoulder pain worse. On lots of pain meds. Please stop and think a long time before having this you beaut new surgery. Great on one level I've heard but for more???? I've done a lot of research and internet searching. And I'm going to Germany next year to see a brilliant surgeon and the one that has pioneered this type of surgery all over the world. His name is Dr Rudolph Bertagnoli. You can look him up on his Pro Spine site. Just google his name. His team has also had a lot of success with endoscopic and laser surgery. You can send all of your stuff to him for evaluation before having to make the trip. I've seen some spectacular cases he's operated on. One guy had no discs in his neck, just one long rod! You only have one neck and that connects to your back which makes up your whole spine..... make the right decision when it comes to who you let cut it open. Another great site is GPN, Global Patient Network.com Good Luck All of You
I had a Prodisc-C C5/C6 ADR done in Sept 2008, (30 days ago) I am in worst pain then I was before the surgery. Still on vicodin & musle relaxers. I have not been back for a follow up since my doc is on vacation. Hopefully the pain will subside with time. Since this is a new product, I believe most doc don't have the experience & are using us for thier "lessons learned".
On 9/24/08 I had cervical disc replacement between C5 & C6 with a fusion. I was told that because of my age (60) that a fusion,along with disc replacement, was best.
During surgery, I had to be "stretched" to make room for the replacement disc. We were told that because the neck was stretched, I would have pain on both shoulders after surgery. The pain could last up to 3 months. Well, I've had pain alright. I used to have pain in just the left shoulder. Now I have pain in both shoulders. I'm really upset about this. It's hard to imagine that over time the pain will go away. Sometimes, the pain goes away for a few hours, then, like always before, the pain comes back. Just about any arm action will set it off.
This whole thing, the surgery, the pain, the uncomfortable neck brace, etc. has been a lot for me. I'm glad I wasn't a day older. I don't think I would do this again. However, if, in a few months, if I do lose the pain, then, I'll be glad. But, right now, I'm pretty upset about the whole deal. Before, if I took muscle relaxants, I could operate without too much difficulty. Now I live on muscle relaxants. That was the point of the surgery, to eliminate the pain and get off the medicines!
I just had a full C5 disk replacement. I had nerve pain in my right arm that was pretty severe, caused by a piece of my disk that had fragmented into my spinal chord. At the moment all the nerve pain is gone. I have muscle soreness, mostly in my left shoulder. My biggest problem so far is getting comfortable in bed or on the couch. Any suggestions?
I have just been told that I need full C6 disk replacement due to a fragmented disk piece. I have pain in my right arm as well and my doc is more concerned about the muscle in that arm atrophying. I am extremely nervous to have this surgery but am being told that is all that can be done when a piece fragments. Can you tell me more about the surgery, if you had a cadaver piece inserted (as I am told would be the case for me), and if you needed to wear a brace or collar. I haven't read many total success stories and am fearful I will end up worse off.
The surgery for me was about 2 hours. I was completely sedated. The went in through the front of my throat in an incision about an inch long. I was not given a cadaver piece because I opted to become part of a study. I was given a titanium disk to replace the damaged disk. There was no fusion. I had the surgery on the 14th of Nov and the only pain I have had is soreness in my shoulders from the surgery and in my throat where a breathing tube was inserted. I wear a soft collar/neck brace for now and was told i will have to wear it for about 3 weeks. I was told by my surgeon that it seems with a single level disk fusion would not have been bad if I would have had it. If you have other questions let me know.
Well I bit the bullet and had the disc replacement a week ago. This was at the C5-6, I had a fusion at C6-7 4 years ago and have been in pain ever since. It had gotten so bad that I was willing to do anything except another fusion My Dr. recommended the replacment, but didn't think insurance would cover it. But his office worked with them and they agreed. I can honestly say this was the easiest surgery I have EVER had. I was up eating within an hour of returning to my room. Going to the bathroom soon thereafter. I stayed in the hospital a total of 22 hours, only because my insurance allowed it. And I was afraid it was too good to be true that i felt so good. The Dr used no external stitches. I have not had to wear any kind of brace, no PT, and he told me to do anythig I wanted, but use my common sense.He wants me turning my head and using the disc as much as possible, but not strain it just yet. Told me I can drive as soon as I stop taking pain meds. Which I could do now.
There was quite a bit of swelling in the front of my throat, and the back was sore for several days. But compared to life before this has been a walk in the park. So if you are considering this procedure, check with your nuerosurgeon. See how many he has done and what his results have been.
Oh I did have a scare today, I tripped over some wrapping paper & boxes in the floor, and twisted my neck and back,, but scared me more than anything. My neck has a little soreness but that would be expected.
BTW my surgeon is in OKC, OK Dr. Stewart Smith. Please feel free to email me with any questions.
So how are you feeling now? I am 55 and have had herniated discs at c 4/5 and c 6/7 for over five years now. My arms and hands have the shocking feelings so went to the dr. and my mri looks really scary. But fusion stories seem scarier. I want to get replacement discs and don't know anything about them. What are they made from? I do not want the fusion if it makes me less mobile than I am now. I am in Palmer Alaska, near Anchorage. I am from Texas and have been here 9 years. I have no idea of who is a butcher or a good dr. here like I did back home. I am miserable, am scared to exercise because don't know what will happen to me if I move "wrong" or something. I am scheduled for 01/19 for a fusion between c 4, 5, 6 and 7, so three discs which sounds very restricting to me. I am not doing it at that time, because I want to research more. The last thing I want is to have fusion. I need help and advice. After years of no pain meds, as I am allergic to all NSAIDS, and hate pain meds, I am now taking norco (?) and zanaflex, which render me stupid and don't work much now after a week of taking them. I do not want the roller coaster of pain meds again. I was taking so many before that I could barely walk without my knees wiggling. This sux big time.
Thanks.
Who did a multilevel disc replacement on you? I am in Alaska but for this I would certainly travel to avoid fusion. I see car1955 also had two levels. I need to know!
Thanks,
Kathy
I am 26 years old and compete in mixed martial arts. I began with neck pain 7 wks ago, which has progressed to complete atrophy in my right pectoral, tricep, and lat. Seen a few neurosurgeons and seems like the Prestige disc at c6-7 is my answer. Notice how I don't sound completely sure. That is because this has become so stressful I'm not sure about ANYTHING anymore! I hope to be the success story we are all looking for...right now I am battling with insurance companies about the procedure, and am actually looking forward to the surgery not because of the pain , but because I fear permanent muscle disability. However once I do get my treatment I am still unsure if I will ever be able to compete(work) again! This is scary stuff and I want everyone to know that u are not alone with this! Everyone I know is sick of listening to me complain, but they don't understand that it is almost impossible to think about anything else when u are in pain every second.
I'm a 44 year old female who is scheduled for a 2-level Artificial Disc Replacement in March. After reading some of these posts, I'm getting a little nervous. I am told I will have to wear a neck brace (for how long, I don't know) I see that some of you said you didn't even need a brace. I also heard that you get a feeling of not being able to swallow after this surgery because they move your wind pipe and esophogus. Did anyone experience this and if so, how long did it last. I am getting really nervous about going ahead with this surgery.
My name is Brad Coons (42 yrs old now) and I had a KinefexC ADR at C-5/6 in June of 2006 due to a ruptured and fragmented disc. The surgery was done here in San Diego and was uneventful, meaning no complications. I got lucky and the Dr. told me ahead of time that I was getting the ADR as opposed to the fusion (it was a blind study and I wasn't supposed to know what I was getting until AFTER the surgery). I had a lot of pain in the front of my neck from the Dr. accessing the disc and a sore throat b/c of the breathing tube, but my neck pain associated with the ruptured disc was gone immediately. All follow up appts showed the disc was in the correct position and working as planned. I still have a little stiffness after physical exersion (sp) but no other issues. My Dr. told me after 2 months that I was free to do whatever I want. There are no activities I've been afraid to do - I went to D-Land 3 months after surgery and rode all rides without fear or pain. I rode dirt bikes in the desert 6 months after surgery and had no fear or pain. My only fear at this point is how long the devise willl last. I do not want to go thru the surgery again as it was very painful. I hope this helps and I will answer any questions I can.
had surgery on c5/c6 31st jan had no problems with swallowing in fact didnt feel too bad numbed with morphine.Now home physio said only wear collar when up and about,but 15 days after pain in shoulder and arm at times unbearable, still is havent slept 3 nights dont know what to do.
Sorry I am just now getting back on the board. I am doing great. I have residual pain from the nerve damage caused by waiting so long. After having both procedures I would definately recommend the replacement, but NOT the fusion. The fusion WILL limit your range of motion. With the replacement I wore no brace and was immediately allowed to do anything I wanted, within reason. I was back to work in 2 weeks. Only needed pain medication for a few days during recovery. I do still occasionally need pain meds (Norco) but that is from other lower disc problems.
Again I would recommend the replacement to anyone looking for relief, just don't wait. Your Dr. should be able to get you approved through your insurnace. It took a several weeks to get my approval. But I don't regret it. Just realize that all of your pain may not be related to just that area so surgery may not fix all your problems. But I feel so much better now, I feel like I have my life back.
Good luck.
been trying to get my insurance to approve artificial disc - have had fusion at C4-5 in past - insurance company stating that there is no evidence to have artificial disc adjacent to a fusion. How did you swing it? What insurance do you have - I have BCBS.
I'm stunned I found this sight. And just in time. My life has become small and shut down. I've live w/chronic pain for almost 40 yrs but many friends don't know it. I left Colo (where the entire town knew) and had to come to San Diego to care for a parent. Now I can't even care for me. Have had 2 lumbar fusions. Use all the tricks.. yoga, acupuncture, mssg, pt, walking (PRAYING & BEGGING) and I've hit the skids. My neck now has 5 levels of bone on bone. No discs left, lots of stenosis and spurs; both arms and legs on fire... little sleep.. lots of crazy. Very med sensitive. Suboxone is the only med that helps some. Drs at Steadman-Hawkin's Clinic in Colo say I need a 4 level ACDF that would leave the rest of my neck at risk... & this will take care of maybe 50-60% of pain, maybe. Then need to be re-done in another 6-8 yrs??? Plus, now I've also kicked into an inflamatory disorder as a side problem from non stop pain. So, I was starting to plan this ACDF, wondering how as a single person I'd care for myself. Now, I've come across the info for the hospital in Germany that does many ADRs and am starting to feel some hope. Finances are another issue. Can we spell broke in a r-e-c-e-s-s-i-o-n with no work? When we have chronic pain, we either lose it, or develop a pretty quirky sense of humor. Please, Please.... anyone who's had the work done in Europe, let me know your thoughts.
I have battled disc disease, torn discs and bulging discs for years. Last year my lumbar finally gave out and I had a two level artificial disc replacement done on L4-L5 and L5-S1. I have been 100% pain free with no limitations since. I have the Prestige Discs.
I am going in on Monday March 2, 2009 to have my C4-C5 and C5-C6 replaced with the pro-discs. These two discs are bulging and torn. I have no concerns about getting this done after my lumbar surgery a year ago.
My best friend had an artifical disc replacement done over a year ago on L5-S1 with the same success. We are both long distance runners and pain free. We can do whatever we want with no pain and no medication. I can go on all roller coasters rides for the first time in my sons life. He is eight. NO PAIN!!!
I have lived with back and neck pain for the past 20 years, I am no 40 years old. I went through Doctor after Doctor, years of Physical Therpay, medications, chiropractor, massage, etc. I had been on pain medications for so long that I had to go through detox last year after my surgery to get off of it all and I am not an addictive person.
I researched on-line, got multiple opinions and then found the best surgeon in my opinion. Dr.Todd Lanman in Beverly Hills, California. He has been in the forefront of this surgery, does trials and teaches all over the Country.
I understand being scared of the surgery but I finally just decided that I couldn't live with the daily pain any longer.
Blue Cross doesn't approve the discs. Cigna and Aetna do. I don't know where you live but many places are doing studies and you can get the surgery free. My best friend did her lumbar last year this way through Dr. Todd Lanman in Beverly Hills, CA. Most of the studies are one level only.
Fusion is something you want to avoid at all costs. Once you fuse bone together then the disc above the fusion will go. I know people that go years without that happening and I know people who are back in 6 months later to get the next disc fused. Mobility becomes limited. I personally would only do artificial discs.
I had a two level done on L4-L5 and L5-S1 March 2008 and both are Prestige. I am going in on March 2, 2009 for C4-C5 and C5-C6 and they are using Pro Disc because the Prestige are too big for the neck.
I had a ADR done in Oct 09 and didnt have hardly any pain. But 5 months later I have started experience pain in my lower back in down my left leg. And sometimes into my feet. Then my left leg will go sleep. Is this normal. I have got another appointment to go back to my doctor next week. Mine was done in Germany also and he is in the top of his work class. Very good doctor. But I think maybe something else is going on???
I am 39 y/o, had cervical disc fusion in C5-6 almost two years ago and cry most days with my choice. I should NEVER have done it. I should have waited for cervical replacement. I am an athlete by heart. I bike, exercise, own 4 jet skis and used to love running. After my cervical fusion and very little rehab, then the official release from the neurosurgeon I went back to my usual fitness. I now have adjacent segmental disease on above and below, I stay in chronic pain almost all days. I can do very little upper body. DO NOT fuse!!!! I am a nurse and my husband is an OR nurse. I did it because my pain was SOO bad. I should have backed off then with physical activity and waited for actual disc replacement. The stress on the C6-7 and C4-5 would not have occurred. It is a guarantee that it will happen, look at the statistics of adjacent segmental dz. It is greater than 90% with a return of future fusions. I now sit DYING to have disc replacement and the loss of my pain and can't. So my prayer is that in 5 years they will do it on populations like me. I am getting out of bedside nursing, (300 to 500 lb patients are killing me!)
So take my advice, investigate manual and physical therapy as well as cervical disc REPLACEMENT! Not fusion!
I am 40 years old and had C6-C7 disc replacement surgery at Walter Reed Hospital on 19 March 2009. The replacement of the disc went well. With in two days my pain subsidded in the neck, shoulder, and hand area of the body. Still have full motion of my neck. One complication occurred from the surgery was that they either stretched or tore a nerve to the right side of my vocal cord. I am only able to talk at a whisper. Prognosis is that it might return between 2 weeks and six months. If it is torn(paralzyed), then they will have to do a surgery to repair my vocal cords. Reports that less than 2% have this problem. The rest of the surgery went great.
I have also had T7-T8 fusion 3 years prior.
I had an anterior discectomys c4,5,6 on 1/15/08 and was quite well afterward, about 3 months ago I started developing severe exhaustion and began to display posture which was only seen before the original surgery. I just had an MRI done with " no surgical targets at this point" However I know something is not right< i can feel a popping in my neck with a bone on bone grinding feel. The neurosurgeon thinks it may be scar tissue, but why would that propagate after almost 12 months post op?
I had a ruptured disc c5/c6 and bulging disc c6/c7. I had articifial disc replacement done in 2003 on C/5 C/6. It was a Bryon disc made of titanium. Had a wonderful doctor out of Indianapolis, with the Indiana Spine Group. I would recommend this surgery and this specific doctor to anyone. My results were instant. Had the surgery done at age 43. Hope to be able to get surgery done on bulging disc c6/c7 at some point. Anyone wanting more info about my experience just let me know.
I had my C4&5 C6&7 removed replaced and fused 11/10/08 Up until about a month ago,I thought it was the wrong choice.Then someone asked me if they should have the surgery done...hummm I really had to think,then before I reliezed what I was saying,I asked "Do you need your arms?" He replied YES I then told him,to get the surgery. WOW that blew my mind. It was the hardest thing I have ever had to do.The recovery is Hard & Long. I remember cring for weeks after,but now I almost am forgeting the pain I endored. GOOD LUCK TO YOU !!!
I have just had c-7 titanium disc replacement 4 weeks prior, JUST seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, the pain i was enduring in my back, neck and arm were gone instantly the wound at the front of my neck where they went in was my major problem just felt like i was choking all the time, now it gets really uncomfortable when i bend down to pick something up but getting better all the time. I take mild pain killers for the pain across my shoulder blades which just feels like i could do with a gental massage. If anyone had asked me two weeks ago if i would go through it again i would have said no because recoverey and tramadol was taking its toll and also trying to look after a family of 5 youngest nearly 3 wasnt ideal! But know on the mend I would say go for it.
I HAVE A QUESTION....I HAD MY C 5&6 AND C 6&7 REPLACED AND FUSED.BECAUSE I LOST USE OF MY LEFT ARM AFTER SURGERY THE USE IS BACK NOT FULLY BUT MUCH BETTER NOW 6 MONTHS LATER I AM HAVING THE SAME PAIN AND LOSS OF USE OF MY RIGHT ARM............HELP............PLEASE ........DONT WANT TO DO THIS SURGERY AGAIN.........ONCE YOU HAD FUSED WONT THAT MEAN THAT LEVEL DISK THAT CONTROLS ARMS IS FIXED???????????? WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME????????
I'm only 26 years old and was diagnosed with a leaking disc in C3-4, c4-5, c5-6. I had this problem since I was 17 years old. My doctor said those disc wont be bulging anymore and the worst case senario is that it would just collapse. He recomended the CDR surgery since the pain is intolerrable that most of the time it would affect my work. He also gave me Oxycontin as pain management. I went to another doctor for a second opinion and i was told that surgery should not be an option because I'm too young and recomended theraphy instead. My question is, since I am in pain for almost 10 years now, should I get the surgery considering I'm only 26?
Degenerative changes occur more as we age -- it is just a normal process of the wear and tear on your spine. Since you are relatively young, your doctors are probably trying to alleviate your pain symptoms with less invasive procedures.
If conservative treatment fails and there is specific evidence of disc herniations and/or degenerative changes compromising the nerve roots and/or spinal cord, surgery may be indicated.
If necessary, you may need to seek a second opinion from a neurosurgeon who can discuss your options in greater detail.
Best wishes ----
I had the Cervical Disc Replacement Surgery on C5-6 and C6-7 (Prodisc-C) in March. Before the surgery, I thought as soon as I woke up I would feel 100% better. I was wrong. It is a very painful and long healing process. I couldn't eat for weeks because I felt like I was choking. (I lost 20 lbs. though) I am still in Physical Therapy twice a week and although the pain is not as bad as before surgery, there are still days when I have to take Percocet for pain. I am also on Lyrica for on-going radicular numbness and tingling in my arms/hands, and Cymbalta because of Chronic Pain. I was told by my doctor and his PA that it might be as long as a year before I feel better. There were two girls that had the cervical fusion done the same day and they were able to eat right away and had minimal pain. I also know other people that had the fusion who said post op they had very little to no pain. However, the fusion is the last resort. Once that's done, you've burned all your bridges!
HELLO AGAIN,WELL ITS NOW BEEN 8 MONTHS FOR ME HAVING MY FUSION. I ALSO COULD NOT EAT, CRIED FROM THE HORRIBLE PAIN I WAS IN,I ALSO THOUGHT I WOULD HAVE RELIEF DIRECTLY AFTER SURGERY. NEVER BEEN MORE WRONG....BUT I DO NOW HAVE USE OF THAT LEFT ARM AGAIN AND THAT I GUESS MADE IT WORTH IT...AND THERE STILL ARE BAD DAYS...I NOW AM HAVING PROBLEMS WITH MY RIGHT ARM.. THE DOCTOR NOW SAYS IT IS MY c4-5 THEY ALREADY DID c5-6 & c6-7
Hi You sound so nonchalant about fusion to the cervical vertebrae and you say c6-c7 is next on your list. I would like to ask a few general questions and hope others have a view. I am a fit 64 year old that have looked after himself carefully all my life, never had any contact sport such as football that does cause neck problems especially in the c6-c7 joint. Have heard that a prolapse in a footballers neck is very common simply because of the terrible strain they put their necks under. Notwithstanding the fact that we all suffer wear and tear and some of us have arthritic degenerative conditions that lead to the problems, though mine is just wear and tear, One thing has struck me in that no one has said so far that they have a prolapsed disc due to an accident. As for me as I have said I'm 64 and was 61 at the time and stationary in a middle lane when a vehicle after hitting another literally took off and came at me through the air, I remember seeing it in slow motion, coming at me from the side hitting my van and shoving it sideways in to the left hand lane, had a seat belt on but was thrown viciously left and right hitting my head on the door post and bending my neck like a banana and ouch did that hurt. Within a couple of days the headache was still bad the neck hurt and now pins and needles in my left arm. Before the accident there was no indication that I had neck problems at all and I was working normally now it has settled to some extent but was very painful in the first 6 months and within 24 months I have learnt to readjust what I do but can not do what plumbers are expected to do and am relegated to the office where I get in the way. An MRI shows that there is a prolapsed disc at c6-c7 to the left pressing on the nerve root to the left arm, which causes the normal pins and needles and worse if I sleep the wrong way and pinch the nerve for a long time. The surgeon has suggested a decompression which I suspect is what you have said is your next procedure. However no one here has mentioned the unmentionable. My own doctor had a knee to knee bit of advice which he gave me and told me of his earlier works as a doctor in that surgeons are not gods and in fact he didn't seem to trust them much following his experience in Stoke Mandeville Hospital that specialises in spine surgery here in the UK when he was given the task of following up past similar operations that went wrong. He made a point that people in the same situation that are walking talking and doing all what is expected of them albeit with pain ans sleepless nights and they then regret it when it all goes wrong. What happens patients are sent to outlaying establishments that look after them. His bottom line was live with the pain or risk having a machine breath for you for the rest of your life.
Now kizzz675 what is it? a mere de-compression procedure as my surgeon says or is it one of the most dangerous procedures that a surgeon can perform?
I would like to hear from others if they have sustained a prolapsed disc because of an accident or undue pressure to the head or neck. And what are the risks?
I had a double hernia operation a couple of years ago so it is not a matter of me being afraid of an operation its the fear that I wake up and cant move my fingers and toes and there is a tube stuck in my throat and the words of my doctor ringing in my ears.
despite of all that I don't think I can stand the pain that comes with this disc problem and am on the verge of going against my GP's advice.
Concerns regarding cervical spine surgery are common due to the need to be operating so close to the spinal cord. However, most cervical spine surgeries done by board certified neurosurgeons have very successful outcomes with minimal complications.
I had anterior cervical fusion C4-C7 done six months ago for multi-level degenerative disc disease and spinal stenosis. Prior to surgery I had neck and shoulder pain, numbness and tingling in my arms and difficulty doing daily activities. After surgery most of my preop symptoms were totally relieved and I no longer have any significant problems and have resumed all of my prior activities without limitations or restrictions.
Postop recovery for me was not difficult and only minimal incisional pain and sore throat (due to the intubation tube and manipulation of the tissues) which resolved within two weeks.
Deciding on surgery to correct a prolapsed disc is a very personal decision and needs to be evaluated based on the severity of your current symptoms and how your activity level may be affected. If there is nerve root involvement (the prolapsed disc is causing pressure on the spinal nerve root), surgery may be the only option to obtain optimal nerve recovery. The longer the nerve is compromised the greater the risk of permanent impairment.
Have you had a recent MRI to assess whether there have been interval changes since your last exam? An orthopedic or neuro spine specialist would be able to provide updated information on the need for surgery. Basing a decision on past experiences of your primary care doctor may not be reflective of current medical practice.
There is risk involved with any invasive procedure and even from the administration of anesthesia. In my case, the risks were explained thoroughly and I am very glad I proceeded with the surgery. I have no pain! The results have been well worth the minor postop symptoms and I would not hesitate to have the surgery again if needed.
Hope you are able to get a consultation with a spine specialist and have your concerns addressed.
Hi Gemini64,
Sorry to hear about your experience. I am presently also having the same problem as your and also the same location, i.e. C5-C6 & C6-C7.
2 years ago, my condition were not so good, and was seeing a specialist at the hospital. Then the surgeon have gone thru my MRI scan and confirm that I have good reason for surgery. He have recommend to do an Artificial Disc replacement. But the option for surgery was open for and it is a personal decision and the surgeon did not force me to opt for it. Only advice he gave during that time was that if ever the pain at my arm and finger tip does stop, I could drop the idea for surgery. It actually stop after 2 months of medication and I also get the idea out of my mind.
But this year, 3 months ago, the prolapsed disc suffer a relapse and the pain was increasingly unbearable. I had started my hospital appointment again, and being scheduled for MRI scan this saturday1st Aug 2009. The doctor will review with me on the MRI outcome on 12th Aug. By then will decide on the need of surgery. I am here actually to findd out more from those are also having multiple level prolapsed disc. I actually have discussion with another surgeon friend of mine that artificial disc insertion is better than the fusion method and movement can still be maintain whereas the fusion method(traditional) does offer relieve of pain but not on movement.
I am quite about the surgery not because of the removal of damage disc or the insertion of artifiicial disc, but more the bone spur that is protruding out and facing toward the spinal cord. It could be this bone spur that is still causing pain and the removal of this bone spur is very dangerous to remove as it is very near to the spinal cord. I am now hoping that the new MRI scan would show something more promising.
Hi
I had my c4/5 and c5/6 disc replacement with the second generation prosthesis called "disco-serve" on july1, 2009. The surgeon says the op went well and discharged fromhospital after 3 nights. Prescribed heavy meication for pain. I developed a pain in my left shoulder blade inspite of the pain medicines. Surgeon immediately stopped allmedication and prescribed "gabapentin 300m*3 saying that the pain is from the facet joints trying to synchronise with the new location of the neck. Increased the medicine to 3*600mg per day. Upto now no relief. If I lie down or put a cushion behind my back I am ok. If I stand up and walk etc the pain comes back.I am not going to work and my voice after 28 days is still funny.Since you also suffered from pain in the shoulder blades I would appreciate if you could tell me what sort of pain you had and how much time it took to recover.
regds
ellahi
I had my c4/5 and c5/6 disc replacement with the second generation prosthesis called "disco-serve" on july1, 2009 in London. The surgeon says the operation went well and discharged from hospital after 3 nights. Prescribed heavy medication for pain. I developed a pain in my left shoulder blade in-spite of the pain medicines. Surgeon immediately stopped all medication and prescribed "gabapentin 300mg*3=900mg per day saying that the pain is from the ‘facet joints’ trying to synchronise with the new location of the neck. Increased the medicine to 3*600mg=1800mg per day. Up-to now no relief. If I lie down or put a cushion behind my back I am ok. If I stand up and walk etc the pain comes back.I am not going to work and my voice after 28 days is still funny. Did anyone else also suffer from pain in the shoulder blades I would appreciate if you could tell me what sort of pain you had and how much time it took to recover.
regards
ellahi
Just had Artificial Disc Replacement surgery July 12, 09 with the prestige disc, C5-6, and it totally eliminated my presurgery symptoms of pain well, more tingling really and numbness radiating down my right side of my neck, shoulderblade, bicep, forearm and thumb and forefinger. Woke up from surgery, instantly gone. Less than three weeks after the surgery I am pain med free, driving, performing normal household chores and trying to remember the restrictions my neurosurgeon gave me as I have no pain to tell me not to over do it. My follow up is next week, I only hope I am alright, but I highly recommend having the artificial disc replacement surgery for cervical issues, as my experience was amazing. (Assuming your neurosurgeon is as great as I am thinking mine was!) I was up the same day in the hospital dragging my IV pole around the floor, and home by noon the next day. I would hope we could get some of the newer discs like the M6 Artificial Disc which they are using elsewhere since it has some shock absorby stuff in it, but I am grateful to no longer be worrying about losing function in my right arm. Good luck to all...
Just wanted to add my two cents worth. I just had C3-C4, C4-C5, and C5-C6 disk replacement over the Labor Day weekend. I had thought about it for almost two months prior but the increasing pain and numbness in my left arm and shoulder made me realize I really had no other choice.
This was my first surgery ever and I was scared out of my mind. Fortunately, I was in an excellent hospital, Scripps Memorial La Jolla, San Diego, CA, with great doctors. The operation lasted 5 1/2 hours, was in surgical ICU for 24 hours, and a hospital room for two more days after that. I was up and walking (somewhat unsteadily) a day-and-a-half after the surgery, although I was also on heavy meds. It has now been three weeks. My swallowing is still difficult, throat still feels "loose" and swollen, and I have an occasional tight feeling in my upper back and shoulders. Also, my neck gets tired easily and have to rest my head often. But, I am now up and around, back on my own, driving and doing chores. The primary constraint is that I have to wear a cervical collar for a few months. I still have some follow ups as well as possible therapy. The doctors and surgeons I had were outstanding and they are being very conservative, hence the collar requirement. Pain throughout the entire process has been minimal, although I can now start to feel the the 8" incision in my neck as the nerve endings begin to heal and regroup. Of course, the most obvious benefit is the fact that the previous pain and numbness in my left arm and shoulder is now totally gone. So, after three weeks, so far so good. I'm 52 but look young for my age and have always stayed in fairly good shape. I'm 5'11' and weigh 170 lbs.
I will keep posting for awhile and for anyone who is interested, my e-mail is ***@****.
Good luck to all!
So you had artificial cervical disks at 3 levels? Was your surgery part of a research study? I live in the Milwaukee, WI area and my surgeon told me only single level artificial disks are available. A year ago she was hoping I could wait until multi-level's were approved, but I haven't found anything that says this has happened yet. Now things have gotten much worse. I'll need a new MRI but based on the one a year ago she would do one artificial disk and fuse the rest 2 or 3 levels.
I live in Southern California and my doctor told me he had placed inserts at three levels, along with the backing plate and retaining screws. I don't know if my surgery was part of a research study. The hospital where I was, Scripps Memorial in La Jolla, CA, is world-renowned for their research study, but I really don't know if mine was at this point. I will have more info when I have follow-up x-rays done next week and will get back to you.
By the way, I grew up in the Milwaukee area on South 27th.
:-)
- Jesse4sd
Thanks for replying so quickly! From what you said I don't think you had the artificial disks...maybe fusion??? Please let me know what your doc says. I hope you're healing is going well!
Wow! What a small world! I'm 47, grew up in Racine, moved to Waterford in Western Racine County in '94 and now live in Rochester nearl Burlington. Hope you're enjoying your California sunshine while we're just starting our Fall season here'!
Has anyone had artificial cervical disc replacement surgery done at Kaiser Hospital? I just want to know how good the surgeons in this hospital for this kind of procedure.
I was in hospital overnight, came home with oral pain meds which I had cut the dosage in half by day 4. I'm not taking any now. On Feb 2 I saw my doc and we dumped the neck brace. I can do pretty much what I want to, but am a little stiff and sore in my shoulders and the back of my neck. The incision is in the front, about 1" long. I still need to take it easy for several more weeks, but can drive, work, and do non-jarring exercise at will.
Go to http://clinicaltrials.gov/ to learn more. Good luck!
How are you doing now? Have you had any problems? Dr. is recommending biofeedback for me.
Thanks.
Carol218
Thanks,
Elizabeth
I have just had c4/c5 disc replacement & c5/c6 acdf and I cannot really say how i am feeling at the moment other than in real discomfort.but its only 3 days since surgery I have noticed that my burning sensation in my legs has disappeared but I still seem to getting alot of nerve pain so I will have to update further in a couple of days to see if any further changes.I know something I wouldnt wish this on anyone .
spk agan soon michelle
Before going for ADR, please, research as much as possible about contraindications and you conditions. I am posting on a different forum and there are number of people who either had a revision after ADR or are still searching for answers there...My username there Job13 and the topic name 'One year hell ADR in Germany. Revision Prodisc to fusion'.
http://spinesupport.org/simplemachinesforum/index.php
I found a lot of very useful info there about ADRs and fusions...prons and cons. Check it out-it might be useful to learn more before going into the surgery! I dont want anyone ending up like me, at 33 y.o....
anybody had this treatment done?
there pro disc c find a doctor that does them. if you get fusion doctors using tebeckar steel for bone graph has a high fusion rate.
if you got the money go to germany. In the US the fda will not use studies/results form the other
countries even though most of the synthic discs are made here in US(Medtronics) for onelevel.Single level fusion pro disk c has been approve call the company and see who doing it nearest you I wish
it woud have been available to me. I have had c5/c6 fuse and as above statements this has gone south after a year and now c4 disc isnow going. What we have going for us is an inefficent FDA
where there is help out there but we cannot get it.
hop u do well
I think I read on this site that there is still a 10-15% chance of re injury in normal every day life with these procedures, I think that factor goes up considerably with my profession, depending on what we do. With that said, I know plenty of guys, with fusions and even ADR that are doing bang up jobs right now.
I just got mine done on 2/5 and I will say this the initial recovery form surgery was a lot better than the framinotomy, but I haven't seen any improvement. So that is a big fat dagger........... in the neck. I would say go for the Framinotomy first, the initial recovery will suck more, but you won't have a peice of steel in your neck, no matter how miraculous people say the prestige or whatever that thing is. If you want to know about my rehab type stuff, I was doing all of that stuff I mentioned above, plus "Cross-Fit" type workouts. I did not however do any of the actual "Fire-man" carries during rehab that did injure me. SO I would say stay away from major back squats in the gym once you get back to that. Good luck, I know I will need some.
I did had 3 level DDD C3-C7 by Discogram but doctors at stenum who did the surgery recommended one level ,they did intraoperative testing other levels looked fine so only replaced my herniated DISC C5-C6 now 4 wk out still going through neck and shoulder pain , shooting pain at the hand level better, even emptying the dishwasher aggrevate the pain for me. like to know who had the Cervical ADR 's how long it take them not to feel any pain at all.
1. Artificial Disc Replacement is new and as such doesn't have a lot of known long-term outcomes. Some longterm studies exist, but the styles of hardware keep changing so it's hard to judge. Most in the US seem to do very well. The upside is: the neck has to move a lot and if you fuse it (especially at multiple levels) is less favorable for young people because it causes adjacent levels to degenerate (wear) faster, so you avoid those early arthritis problems (at least in theory) with disc replacement. There are stricter criteria for who can have a disc replacement. It should be done by spine surgeons experienced in disc replacements.
2. ACDF (fusion) is the gold standard and has very good outcomes for the vast majority of middle age and older folks, but if you're highly active or young, it is less favorable because it can lead to early breakdown of adjacent parts of the spine.
3. ALWAYS insist on having physical therapy after surgery, whether fusion or disc replacement. Some doctors are fishy about this, and it seems silly. There may be a period you need to wait after surgery for therapy, but disc/spinal degeneration ALWAYS has a postural component, and if you fixate the neck or replace the disc without retraining posture and movement, you will certainly develop early degeneration of the spine and increase risk of wearing out replacement discs. This will lead to poor long-term satisfaction and new problems which may not easily be fixed with surgery...you may not even be a candidate for repeat surgery. Always request physical therapy following spinal surgery.
I am 53 and pretty active. He has only done 3 before. You said
you had yours done in Nov, 2007, how are you doing. Would you
do it again. My is the cervical 6-7 disc. I am going to try more physical
therapy first
I had classic pain symptoms since I slipped at work and twisted in a forceful maner I dont think i could do again if i tried a freak accident. I have been in agressive and passive therapy for 9 months 3 days a week and light dutie. I tried to keep pain meds as low as possible but as symptoms wordned after agressive treatment i saw a new doctor. That was a pain specialist. He was the one the discoverd that my pain was refered from c5/c6. We did an mri and discogram showing a level 5 tear in my disc.
24 hours after surgery symptoms of pain/numbness in hands gone. Refered pain in middleback and between shoulderblades much better but still there defainatly better than before.
I have heard from doctors and many medical journals that a disk replacement will last 10 years. I am 30 so this was a big worry. However looking at the medical advacment in the past 50 years is amazing even in the last 10 years. Robotic arms to do brain surgery, stem cells growing new teath, and posibly a new disc of my own cells could be mine. I took a leap of faith that this replacement will get me to my 40's and we will see what happens maybe it lasts 20 years or 30. Only time will tell. I bookmarked this page and I am willing to continue my progress and tribulations.
I would say aside from whereing a Aspen neck collar that feels as if im being slightly choked I am quite optimistic. My advice to you is get a doctor that will listen to you needs and manage your pain. You will have a longer recovery in my opinion if your heading to the ER every other day for screaming pain.
Thanks for listening,
Eric
p.s. My spelling and english as an art is lost in translation for me so i hope it still makes sence. perhaps you may get a chuckle or two off the new spelling of many words.
Thank you,
saphire88
I had my c6-7 disk replaced with a ProDisc C device on August 8, 2008. Initially I had relief of my pain. I went home after 23 hours in the hospital and felt better than I had in months. Mr Dr suggested that I take Advil for a few weeks to try and offset the spontaneous fusion that sometimes occurs. Yes folks... even if you have disk replacement the disks can still spontaneously fuse together. Even though my Dr told me to stop after 2 weeks I have been taking Advil regularly because I am so frightened that the disks will fuse. Lately when I skip a dose of Advil I notice stiffness in the back of my neck. My last set of x-ray looked good so I will see what he says about the stiffness at my one month appointment.
To all of you thinking about disk replacement: I have had a good experience. I am happy with the results. However, there is not a lot of known information about the procedure. I have heard some "I just cannot answer that" and "nobody really knows that for sure" from my doctor (who I add is the most arrogant man I have ever met.) Yes it has been done in Europe for longer than the US. However there have not been extensive studies anywhere. I am 37 years old and I need for this device to last for 50 years or so. There is much more theory than proven fact. It took me a long time to come at peace with the fact that theoretically I will be OK in the long term. This is something I will be reminded of for the rest of my life. Even if this stiffness goes away and I never again have any pain in my neck, I will still never make it through a metal detector. Think, chose your doctor carefully, do lots of research and make sure you see a great physical therapist first.
Feel good.
Good luck to all
"Nobody likes a pain in the neck"
I'm Shelly and I have had surgery twice now on my neck so in total Ive had 3 cervical discs replaced and now they have been fused, the first time round one of the dics slipped forward and I have felt terrible.since surgery this time I havent felt too good i have terrible neck pain and the base of my head hurts My legs are terrible {I get a burning sensation going through them all the time this drives me mad} Also as soon as I start doing anything my fingers are black and my hand is looking a bit like a claw as my fingers turn in.Does anyone else suffer with bad legs/hands.look forward to comparing notes spk agan soon
Bye for now Shelly
I was off work 8 weeks, maintenance work in a factory.
I have had NO problems with the neck since apart from what i call cramp in muscle near my left shoulder blade.
I have Photos of the discs if you are interested.
Best thing i have ever done , NO PAIN.
Regards Jeff
During surgery, I had to be "stretched" to make room for the replacement disc. We were told that because the neck was stretched, I would have pain on both shoulders after surgery. The pain could last up to 3 months. Well, I've had pain alright. I used to have pain in just the left shoulder. Now I have pain in both shoulders. I'm really upset about this. It's hard to imagine that over time the pain will go away. Sometimes, the pain goes away for a few hours, then, like always before, the pain comes back. Just about any arm action will set it off.
This whole thing, the surgery, the pain, the uncomfortable neck brace, etc. has been a lot for me. I'm glad I wasn't a day older. I don't think I would do this again. However, if, in a few months, if I do lose the pain, then, I'll be glad. But, right now, I'm pretty upset about the whole deal. Before, if I took muscle relaxants, I could operate without too much difficulty. Now I live on muscle relaxants. That was the point of the surgery, to eliminate the pain and get off the medicines!
There was quite a bit of swelling in the front of my throat, and the back was sore for several days. But compared to life before this has been a walk in the park. So if you are considering this procedure, check with your nuerosurgeon. See how many he has done and what his results have been.
Oh I did have a scare today, I tripped over some wrapping paper & boxes in the floor, and twisted my neck and back,, but scared me more than anything. My neck has a little soreness but that would be expected.
BTW my surgeon is in OKC, OK Dr. Stewart Smith. Please feel free to email me with any questions.
Thanks.
Thanks,
Kathy
Again I would recommend the replacement to anyone looking for relief, just don't wait. Your Dr. should be able to get you approved through your insurnace. It took a several weeks to get my approval. But I don't regret it. Just realize that all of your pain may not be related to just that area so surgery may not fix all your problems. But I feel so much better now, I feel like I have my life back.
Good luck.
I am going in on Monday March 2, 2009 to have my C4-C5 and C5-C6 replaced with the pro-discs. These two discs are bulging and torn. I have no concerns about getting this done after my lumbar surgery a year ago.
My best friend had an artifical disc replacement done over a year ago on L5-S1 with the same success. We are both long distance runners and pain free. We can do whatever we want with no pain and no medication. I can go on all roller coasters rides for the first time in my sons life. He is eight. NO PAIN!!!
I have lived with back and neck pain for the past 20 years, I am no 40 years old. I went through Doctor after Doctor, years of Physical Therpay, medications, chiropractor, massage, etc. I had been on pain medications for so long that I had to go through detox last year after my surgery to get off of it all and I am not an addictive person.
I researched on-line, got multiple opinions and then found the best surgeon in my opinion. Dr.Todd Lanman in Beverly Hills, California. He has been in the forefront of this surgery, does trials and teaches all over the Country.
I understand being scared of the surgery but I finally just decided that I couldn't live with the daily pain any longer.
Hope this helps at least one person on here.
Fusion is something you want to avoid at all costs. Once you fuse bone together then the disc above the fusion will go. I know people that go years without that happening and I know people who are back in 6 months later to get the next disc fused. Mobility becomes limited. I personally would only do artificial discs.
So take my advice, investigate manual and physical therapy as well as cervical disc REPLACEMENT! Not fusion!
I have also had T7-T8 fusion 3 years prior.
If conservative treatment fails and there is specific evidence of disc herniations and/or degenerative changes compromising the nerve roots and/or spinal cord, surgery may be indicated.
If necessary, you may need to seek a second opinion from a neurosurgeon who can discuss your options in greater detail.
Best wishes ----
Now kizzz675 what is it? a mere de-compression procedure as my surgeon says or is it one of the most dangerous procedures that a surgeon can perform?
I would like to hear from others if they have sustained a prolapsed disc because of an accident or undue pressure to the head or neck. And what are the risks?
I had a double hernia operation a couple of years ago so it is not a matter of me being afraid of an operation its the fear that I wake up and cant move my fingers and toes and there is a tube stuck in my throat and the words of my doctor ringing in my ears.
despite of all that I don't think I can stand the pain that comes with this disc problem and am on the verge of going against my GP's advice.
Any advise out there?
I had anterior cervical fusion C4-C7 done six months ago for multi-level degenerative disc disease and spinal stenosis. Prior to surgery I had neck and shoulder pain, numbness and tingling in my arms and difficulty doing daily activities. After surgery most of my preop symptoms were totally relieved and I no longer have any significant problems and have resumed all of my prior activities without limitations or restrictions.
Postop recovery for me was not difficult and only minimal incisional pain and sore throat (due to the intubation tube and manipulation of the tissues) which resolved within two weeks.
Deciding on surgery to correct a prolapsed disc is a very personal decision and needs to be evaluated based on the severity of your current symptoms and how your activity level may be affected. If there is nerve root involvement (the prolapsed disc is causing pressure on the spinal nerve root), surgery may be the only option to obtain optimal nerve recovery. The longer the nerve is compromised the greater the risk of permanent impairment.
Have you had a recent MRI to assess whether there have been interval changes since your last exam? An orthopedic or neuro spine specialist would be able to provide updated information on the need for surgery. Basing a decision on past experiences of your primary care doctor may not be reflective of current medical practice.
There is risk involved with any invasive procedure and even from the administration of anesthesia. In my case, the risks were explained thoroughly and I am very glad I proceeded with the surgery. I have no pain! The results have been well worth the minor postop symptoms and I would not hesitate to have the surgery again if needed.
Hope you are able to get a consultation with a spine specialist and have your concerns addressed.
Sorry to hear about your experience. I am presently also having the same problem as your and also the same location, i.e. C5-C6 & C6-C7.
2 years ago, my condition were not so good, and was seeing a specialist at the hospital. Then the surgeon have gone thru my MRI scan and confirm that I have good reason for surgery. He have recommend to do an Artificial Disc replacement. But the option for surgery was open for and it is a personal decision and the surgeon did not force me to opt for it. Only advice he gave during that time was that if ever the pain at my arm and finger tip does stop, I could drop the idea for surgery. It actually stop after 2 months of medication and I also get the idea out of my mind.
But this year, 3 months ago, the prolapsed disc suffer a relapse and the pain was increasingly unbearable. I had started my hospital appointment again, and being scheduled for MRI scan this saturday1st Aug 2009. The doctor will review with me on the MRI outcome on 12th Aug. By then will decide on the need of surgery. I am here actually to findd out more from those are also having multiple level prolapsed disc. I actually have discussion with another surgeon friend of mine that artificial disc insertion is better than the fusion method and movement can still be maintain whereas the fusion method(traditional) does offer relieve of pain but not on movement.
I am quite about the surgery not because of the removal of damage disc or the insertion of artifiicial disc, but more the bone spur that is protruding out and facing toward the spinal cord. It could be this bone spur that is still causing pain and the removal of this bone spur is very dangerous to remove as it is very near to the spinal cord. I am now hoping that the new MRI scan would show something more promising.
I had my c4/5 and c5/6 disc replacement with the second generation prosthesis called "disco-serve" on july1, 2009. The surgeon says the op went well and discharged fromhospital after 3 nights. Prescribed heavy meication for pain. I developed a pain in my left shoulder blade inspite of the pain medicines. Surgeon immediately stopped allmedication and prescribed "gabapentin 300m*3 saying that the pain is from the facet joints trying to synchronise with the new location of the neck. Increased the medicine to 3*600mg per day. Upto now no relief. If I lie down or put a cushion behind my back I am ok. If I stand up and walk etc the pain comes back.I am not going to work and my voice after 28 days is still funny.Since you also suffered from pain in the shoulder blades I would appreciate if you could tell me what sort of pain you had and how much time it took to recover.
regds
ellahi
regards
ellahi
By Aikidoka
This was my first surgery ever and I was scared out of my mind. Fortunately, I was in an excellent hospital, Scripps Memorial La Jolla, San Diego, CA, with great doctors. The operation lasted 5 1/2 hours, was in surgical ICU for 24 hours, and a hospital room for two more days after that. I was up and walking (somewhat unsteadily) a day-and-a-half after the surgery, although I was also on heavy meds. It has now been three weeks. My swallowing is still difficult, throat still feels "loose" and swollen, and I have an occasional tight feeling in my upper back and shoulders. Also, my neck gets tired easily and have to rest my head often. But, I am now up and around, back on my own, driving and doing chores. The primary constraint is that I have to wear a cervical collar for a few months. I still have some follow ups as well as possible therapy. The doctors and surgeons I had were outstanding and they are being very conservative, hence the collar requirement. Pain throughout the entire process has been minimal, although I can now start to feel the the 8" incision in my neck as the nerve endings begin to heal and regroup. Of course, the most obvious benefit is the fact that the previous pain and numbness in my left arm and shoulder is now totally gone. So, after three weeks, so far so good. I'm 52 but look young for my age and have always stayed in fairly good shape. I'm 5'11' and weigh 170 lbs.
I will keep posting for awhile and for anyone who is interested, my e-mail is ***@****.
Good luck to all!
Thanks,
Tammy16
By the way, I grew up in the Milwaukee area on South 27th.
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- Jesse4sd
Wow! What a small world! I'm 47, grew up in Racine, moved to Waterford in Western Racine County in '94 and now live in Rochester nearl Burlington. Hope you're enjoying your California sunshine while we're just starting our Fall season here'!
I'll look forward to your future posts!
Tammy16