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tammie318

Sep 30, 2011

To: all of you

I have had the same symptoms and I think Im lactose intolerant???Try cutting dairy products from your diet.Drink your coffe black I didnt think that was very much but it is!!No dairy!I went 1 day and already I feel better dont know if this is why but???doesnt hurt to try

Heelixx

Oct 05, 2011

To: back pain in mornings & dull ache

Ok.. I'm a 33yr Male, Fit (although smoker), 10st 8lb, 5' 8". I have had this issue for many years now with no outcome from my doctor. Each morning the same routine:
Wake (when i mean wake it's more a stir from not actually being asleep.. more likes just warn out and fatigued!!)
Instant dull ache of which moving is nothing but a chore.
Mixed with a rather sluggish get up & go.
urinate... (that's better)!
Cup'o'tea, sit down, 30mins-1hr the pain eases off.
Horrible dull ache for rest of the day, with more than my fair share of disc crunching up & down the length of my spine, but nothing quite like 1st thing..!

So there you have it! Something that is common as muck but our Doctors can't quite put their fingers on. But I do get one diagnosis:

"Take these "Naproxen" 2-3 times a day" erm.... masking the pain.

I need results, not to their palms with Prescription money that they get a cut of!

Anyways... good luck with definative diagnosis peoples ;)

RVdave

Oct 24, 2011

To: All

The good news is that reading these comments tells me we're not alone. The bad news is that a permanent cure appears elusive. I'm a very healthy, athletic male (runner) and except for the first 30 - 60 minutes each day have no discomfort. Unfortunately, that first hour is hell. As you know, it's easy to get paranoid and imagine all sorts of terrible causes, because the pain is so severe it radiates to lots of other areas. Prostate, colon, or testicular cancer has all seemed likely to me, but fortunately I'm clean. One thing I have learned, lingering in bed, which I used to love to do, only makes things worse. The quicker I get up upon awakening, the better. MRI's, PT, xrays, etc. convince me this is a non-threatening disk problem that can be masked with drugs, but isn't worth the risk of surgery. Good luck.....to all of us!

malmarie

Oct 25, 2011

To: All

I can't believe there are so many that are dealing with this!! Seems it is primarily women....I am hearing that some of you had some kind of trauma in your lifetime, I am curious as to how many of us had an epidural during childbirth. I feel the area of my pain stems from the same point in which the needle would have been injected. After 4 kids and repeat epidurals, I am convinced that my pain may be attributed to this!

hawnsun

Nov 02, 2011

To: all

I, too, have been waking up every morning with tightness in my lower back and groin area which goes away within 5-10 minutes after I get out of bed and walk around. This has been going on since December 2010. I've been seeing a lot of massage therapists and also mentioned it to my regular GP doctor. At least 2 of my practitioners mentioned that my PSOAS was probably tight and needed to be released (relaxed). So, I researched psoas muscle pain and release and did some of the recommended exercises and, for the first time in 10 months, my lower back does not hurt in the morning. I also saw my rolfer yesterday and she further released my tight psoas muscles. I hope this info will be helpful to someone and I'm so glad I found this website cause I thought I was the only one with this condition.

hawnsun

Nov 02, 2011

To: all

p.s. In my research, I discovered that the psoas muscle is approximately 15 inches long and attaches from about the middle of the spine down to the top of the thigh in an S-shaped pattern. It could get 'stuck' in contraction due to trauma (falling and/or twisting, etc.) or stress. I believe I had a very stressful work situation last December (along with a fall last November) that triggered this muscle to stay in contraction (especially when lying down). When doing the psoas releasing exercises, it was advised to go gently since the psoas will tighten up if the therapy is too aggressive.

karma56

Nov 05, 2011

To: all

I have read through the posts and What I see is that most of you don't feel the pain until you have slept 5 or 6 hours. Mine is a bit different. If I lay down for anything more than 10 minutes, I have the same pain trying to get back up. Yes, I have fibromyalgia and IBS, but this is ridiculous. I have never felt such severe pain in my life. I have started sleeping on a wedge pillow and it's not near as bad in the morning. The problem with that is I slide down off it through the night, because of my restless sleeping. Then in order to get out of the bed with the least amount of pain, I have to drag myself back up onto the pillow and stay there for 20 minutes or so. I still have pain getting up, but at least I don't feel like I'm in labor. I've had the tests and the lower back x-rays and all was well. The idea of being this way for the rest of my life depresses the heck out of me.

ADNK

Nov 07, 2011

To: All

If any of you have had a laproscopic gall bladder removal, another site indicates that a bile- duct injury may be the cause of the pain. If you had this surgery recently, and exercises, changing the mattress, diet adjustments have not had any effect, you might have your doctor check it out.

CindiK

Nov 13, 2011

To: alan1963 and NickityNic and Backpain 101

I have exactly the same thing. Have you found a solution? I have also wondered if intestines, kidneys or gall stones might be the problem. I also wonder if its back or insides! Im a 46 yr old female. Cycle at least 6 hours a week. I wondered if its the cycling and not enough cross training as I can do up to 24 hours a week for major races. I have the same thing where I almost have to rock my body to turn over to get out of bed. I get up for 15 minutes, go to the loo, get back into bed and the pain goes. Its the weirdest thing in the world. I can sleep from about 10pm to 3 or 4am, then usually can go back to sleep again, but when I wake at 6am, most times, its the same pain. If I lie on my side in foetal position, its better, but as soon as I fall asleep, I seem to turn onto my back. The pain is always from lying on my back, only after a good few hours and EVERY SINGLE DAY OF MY LIFE. And its a chronic pain. I must add, that passing wind seems to help, which makes me wonder if if those muscles in that area might stretch the inner muscles, or what the heck? I do have ruptured disc between L3 and L4, so I have had back problems for years and years, but this is something COMPLETELY different. I would love to hear if someone with the same issues has found a solution. Is anyone as crazy as I am to WISH it was a kidney stone ... ??? Then at least there would be a solution, an operation and voila?!!!!!!!!! Please keep me posted!

CindiK

Nov 13, 2011

To: hawnsun

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7LpKdLoF3A
Trying it! Thanks. Will report back and see if it helps my 4am spasms. Sounds like it might be something to be excited about - the cycling means that I never stretch this muscle! Lets hope!

Bowderchoff

Nov 13, 2011

Cant quite believe how many posts there regarding this. I have some info on the topic that could be useful, I'll keep it quick:

I've got ankylosing spodylitis (athritis type). Its not to bad to be honest, think I manage it ok. I too wake up early in morning with lower back pain, not too chronic, but enough to wake me up and be too uncomfortable to go back to sleep. Whats worked:

- Started sleeping on sofa bed, it almost moulds to my shape better. But struggle to recreate it elsewhere. But whats gutting is that i had to dismantle it when moving and when put back together it does not work as good!

- Now This bits interesting. My chiropractor reckong the pain is due to the spine/disks (stuff in that area ... not his words btw) rehydrate that time of day and therefore swell. Ok so I've never heard that before but anyway. But I have noticed that ever time I drink in the evening (i'm not an alcky btw), say 3 pints +, I dont get the ache, never! Its not that I'm still pissed in the morning either. Alchohol is a dehydrant or whatever that word is. This ties into what he is saying.

I'm not sure how much use this info is as becoming a full time **** head is not much of a solution. But if the link does turn out to be common, then I'm sure something can be done!

sherimirayn

Nov 13, 2011

I have the same pain that you are describing. I have arthritis in my back. Did any of you think that this pain could see the arthritis or something more serious? Every morning I wake up and cry because the pain is so severe. Anyone's help in this matter would be so much appreciated.

CindiK

Nov 14, 2011

To: alan 1963

Ok, report back after one night of Psoas exercises. A year of having to walk for 15 minutes to get rid of the pain at 3 or 4am ... and it was 70% better this morning after the exercises last night. 2nd night ... will report back tomorrow! I think we are onto something with this muscle in the back! HOPEFUL!

CindiK

Nov 14, 2011

To: HAWSUN

Another night ... 80% better! I am relieved that these PSOAS exercises are the answer. I really thought it was colon/kidney stones/gall stones or something weird. Just google PSOAS exercises. I found so many and have been doing about 4 different ones. I can post them if you like. Standing, lying, sitting. Give a great stretch! Stretches in places I have never stretched before and OBVIOUSLY need! THanks HAWSUN! It all makes sense because I cycle a lot, so am always 'doubled over' and then spend a lot of time in front of my computer 'doubled over'!! Cant believe that stretching the psoas muscle can give such grief ...

GiGi_1970

Nov 15, 2011

I wrote yesterday about my disc/lesion situation in my back. I would like to add I have no ankle reflex on the left, and both arms(not sure what the reflex is called)on the back elbow, no reflexes. I have not seen the results of the MRI, I was just told a few things about it, as the Dr. was in a mad rush. I also think he left a heck of a lot out(because this has been going on for so long, probably felt like a goofball putting me thru it)As I said I find it impossible to believe I have no nerve problems, not only the reflexes right?,but the pain is so undeniable, its a freak show everyday, an electric lightning shower!(lol). A burning, itching, sunburn, stinging needle and electric storm all over my body. BTW I've also had a LP mainly testing for MS, no bands(?)but slightly elevated protein and glucose. I can say one positive thing about this long hellish experience, it has made me tough as nails, I am so not the same person, but in a good way. But I've had enough now. I know the pain will probably never go away but I need it to be tolerable-I have extremely high tolerance for pain(duh who wouldn't after years of it, right folks). And can I add, why the heck not put me on some strong ***meds? Now that they know, give me some good stuff!(have done pee tests, too). One more thing..there is some kidney dysfunction, in the urine...Anyone have an opinion about that? Sorry this is so long.

hawnsun

Nov 16, 2011

To: CindiK

I am so glad to hear that the psoas exercises are helping. I'm still doing them myself. My back is less tight now but my groin is still a bit tight in the morning. I've found that I have to go easy on the exercises in order for the muscle not to go back into contraction. Thanks for your feedback!

dandilaroche

Nov 16, 2011

To: dishelle

Thank you very much for your generous explanation you are a SAVIOR.... I have pain since May 2011 after mooving and I was really thinking that I am dying (after all tests and Doc consultation). But reading this forum is a real savior because I have pain 24 hours a day in my low back and my right hip and now after doctor consultations I have pain everywhere (they really like to touch at the place where it hurts the most) so I can hardly move and all my bones crack like if they rub agains each other. I am 60 years old and have hard time with the doc diagnostic... nothing serious !
I will try your yoga (gentle) and sleep on my back with pillows onther my legs will also help I am sure.
God Bless, Danielle

CindiK

Nov 25, 2011

To: hawnsun

Yeah, thanks! I am definitely getting more sleep with the psoas exercises working, and dont need to do the 3am 4am walk about to relieve the pain - and get back to sleep. I can get back to sleep by just changing into foetal position on my side. I am doing the stretches daily, but am also doing some gym work for cross training. I am cycling quite hard now as its cooled down drastically in Japan, so sitting in front of the computer and cycling seem to be the wrong things for the psoas. Anyway. Since I have done 4 different variations of the psoas exercises which I found on utube and just randomly selected a few I liked, I am definitely soooo much better. The fact that I am so much better MUST MEAN that there is a link between the psoas muscle and the back pain. Yet it still feels like colon - this is a joke, but it feels like the colon is joined to other internal organs or something weird!!! Best way to describe it!! Unfortunately, as with all exercises and muscles, there isnt a miracle pill or quick fix. Depends how bad the pain is for someone to do exercises and stretches daily, isnt that so! I try to do my stretches when I am warm or after exercise. Im interested that you too havent had a complete REMEDY - but the same as me, a marked improvement! Just pleased that I dont have to get up in the night and walk around in order to relieve the pain and get back to sleep! Thanks again!

vimbie

Nov 26, 2011

To: RainInThePain

I have that also,,alcers on tongue as well.
lt can be lack of vitamins cause for the tongue alcers they say its lack of vitamins.

vangrl

Nov 27, 2011

like "Bowderchoff" the only time I don't have lower back pain are the times when I've had a few drinks the night before. I've been suffering with this for almost 2 years, the pain goes away almost immediately upon getting up.

It makes me feel like it must have something to do with being dehydrated or too hydrated? it's totally weird

vangrl

Nov 27, 2011

To: Bowderchoff

backtears

Nov 28, 2011

To: hawnsun

What a great find this forum is. Thank you all!!!! My horrific morning back pain has just gotten worse. I put up with it when it was mild without complaint because I'm 69 and well things just start sagging and dragging about now. I'm going to try several of the things mentioned on this forum. I had a yoga injury to my psoas several years ago (my own fault) and have forgotten how important it is to keep that muscle strong. My physical therapist is helping and suggests until we get things back in shape that I get up after the 5 or 6 hours of sleep when the pain begins and move around for 20 or 30 minutes and then go back to sleep if I can or take a nap in the afternoon. Because I'm retired this may be helpful. If I had to get up for work like most of you guys it would be a difficult option. Besides the awful morning pain I've had to give up sleeping with my two cuddley kitties at night as they hog the bed, sleep on top of me and complain when I toss and turn in pain. So behind the closed bedroom door they softly complain and rush in as soon as I open the door in the morning. I think they sleep there all night. Ohhhh please, someone figure all this stuff out soon. In total compassion I join with you all and wish each one of you a pain free future. ♥

VanesaScot

Nov 29, 2011

To: All

I have slept for the last two days without pain!!!!!! :) :) :)

I had the same problem as most people in this forum for the last 4 months.

I still feel a bit of pain (10%) when I try to get up and still a bit once up, when bending the upper part of my body (30%).

The only new thing that I have done for the last two days is the PSOAS stretches (there are lost of examples in youtube). The improvement has been amazing!
I have also started sleeping on my side with a pillow between my knees.

I still think that the bit of the pain left will improve with general strengthening of the abdominal and back muscles. I will keep trying to rid myself of all pain and I will post if I manage.

Thanks CindiK and Hawnsun for my first two nights of proper sleep in months.

daniela2cu

Nov 30, 2011

OMG i thought i was alone (thank God for the internet)
Same thing horrible pain in the morning only. i have to grab onto something to help pull myself out of bed, trying my best not to bend my waist because i would scream bloody murder. I have to stay stiff as a board until i get up and walk around a bit before the pain subsides. WTFIT?

Its getting worsts its been 4-5 months now and i cant take it anymore.

Thought it was the bed...no sleep on both my daughters bed, same thing, slept on the floor etc. felt like Goldie locks.

SO WHAT IS IT?

Claiton345

Nov 30, 2011

To: Early morning sciatic pain

My problem started with a low back pain. After some exercises it almost disappeared. Later the pain reappeared in the middle of the night, around 3 or 4 o'clock in the morning and nothing seems to stop it. When I wake up, for about 20 minutes, I feel this intense pain in by buttock and right leg again and I can only reduce it after some stretching. Then my sleeping hours are gone. I tried different approaches to whatever was causing my sciatic nerves to act so painfully. One day I realized that most of the pain would go way (within 20 minutes or so) after I went to the bathroom for a # 1 or the habitual morning # 2 or just releasing some gas from my bowels. I realized that the pains were more intense when I had load of stool, or my bladder was filled or I had in my intestines ready to be unloaded or let go. So based on that I decided to modify my diet and observe the changes. Now I trying to modifying my meals time so I will go to the bathroom before I go to sleep. This way I won't have much left over in my intestines during the night, I am eating foods that are rich in fiber, avoiding foods that produce lots of gases when trapped in the intestine, and drinking very little liquids before I go to bed. My believe is that these residues of food produce gases as well as an enlarged filled bladder pushes and compress the sensitive nerves in the sciatic region and create that early morning pain. If this theory proves correct there will be some benefits with it. Firstly there will be some loss of weight because you will be eating healthier food. Second it will help to clean your colon tract. Forth, you will be able to sleep more hours and won't feel tired the rest of the day and the list goes on and on. Anybody can try that. If it doesn't help, it won't hurt either. Reply to ***@****
Fortunately I am feeling some progress and hope I am correct in my theory.

Homeo

Nov 30, 2011

To: c

Start with taking body fish oil capsule just before sleep although there are many other remedies for this condition but this is the easiest for all to get , now for sciatic pain I use micro dose of vitamin B1 depending on which side , unfortunately you can’t get B1 in micro dose

sputnik51ca

Nov 30, 2011

Hi everyone,

I'm a 27-year-old female in good physical shape. About 2 months ago I started waking up with severe mid-back stiffness that prevented me from finding a comfortable position...and then when I tried to move - ouch! Sharp stabbing pains.

I have tried:
Changing my mattress (no difference except I'm now poorer)
Getting an x-ray (they found a bit of degeneration but they couldn't tell me if it was causing the pain or if it was just a normal part of aging)
Going to physio (no difference, but I'm still faithfully doing the stretches every day)
Sleeping on my back (with pillows under my knees)/side(with a pillow between my knees) rather than my stomach (it actually hurts worse!)

Now I'm currently going to massage therapy, which seems to help. My massage therapist says that my ribcage is twisted/uneven. She is able to correct this through massage (I have knots upon knots upon knots). So this is hopeful but it's not fixed yet.

I'm also trying out yoga and magnesium supplements - just started, so still skeptical.

The only thing that REALLY REALLY helps is sleeping with a Thermacare heat patch all night. I know there's all these scary warnings on the box telling you not to sleep with them because you could burn yourself etc. but I guarantee you won't (unless you have incredibly sensitive skin). They last 8 hours and they haven't eliminated all of the stiffness,but I can sleep through the night and no longer get the shooting pains that jar me awake.

Good luck everyone...and p.s. don't you hate it when people post, "You should go see your doctor"? Yeah I know!!! Been there done that...the doctors are baffled so I'm resorting to the internet...

Homeo

Nov 30, 2011

To: sputnick51ca

There are lots of natural remedies for middle back pain if it left side the easiest thing you can get is licorice but natural licorice if you have it in the morning as tea next day you should be much better but homeopathic Glycyrrhiza glabra 5c is much stronger and better, anyways both work as well you should be pain free in 7 days good luck.

Paulinareb

Dec 02, 2011

I am 21 and have had no kids and I experience this severe pain almost every morning, if not every at least 3/4 times a week. I cheered and danced all of my life do maybe that had something to do with it but I have had X-rays, blood work, kidney ultra sounds etc. and everything comes back normal. For about a year I have been trying to figure out where this horrible morning pain in my lower back/spine/kidney area has been coming from! Its hard to describe the pain to the doctors because it doesn't feel like a sore pain it almost feels (as weird as it may sound) like poison in my back! It hurts horribly to take deep breaths and to move. Once I'm up the pain fades within about 15/20 minutes and is gone all day long. It makes no sense I just want to know what it could be!

CindiK

Dec 03, 2011

To: VanesaScot

Awesome news Vanesa. I agree that the Psoas exercises are the specific solution and the reasons I've personally got myself into this painful situation is that I cycle a LOT and I sit at the computer a LOT, and the two together mean that I never stretch the Psoas! Good luck and lets keep posted. Sadly, it isnt a CURE, but it certainly is HELPING! ;) IF I am lazy and dont stretch the psoas, I have farrrrr more pain! Hawnsun has really helped us here!

hawnsun

Dec 05, 2011

To: all

I'm glad, CindiK and VanesaScot, that the psoas exercises are helping. I'm still not 100% yet. I'd say I'm about 95% better in my lower back. The tightness has shifted from my lower back to my groin area. It's probably cause I don't have the proper setup for my computer viewing (which I plan to change soon). Also, I find that if I do the exercises every day, then my psoas muscles are sore throughout the day (not just in the morning). Probably will experiment with exercising gentler and see if the soreness is part of the healing process. Any thoughts on this? Also, it's interesting that you brought up the colon connection, CindiK, cause I've thought about that, too!

LivnwithpAin

Dec 06, 2011

After years of suffering with pAin I have been diagnosed with anklyosing spondylitis. I am positive for the HLA B27 gene. Read up on it and request the tesf

LivnwithpAin

Dec 06, 2011

After years of suffering with pAin I have been diagnosed with anklyosing spondylitis. I am positive for the HLA B27 gene. Read up on it and request the tesf

Jayedlady

Dec 11, 2011

To: Medhelp

At birth I had spina bifida and it was corrected at 37 I have unbarrable pain while walking standing and laying down could it be from the condition I once had

jstec

Dec 17, 2011

I have suffered from this condition for approximately six years. It has been brutal, and I'm only 30 years old. I think the answer is very basic, though. We are simply not stretching enough of the right muscles. I think the pain is caused by our legs pulling down on our lower backs, and particularly, the outside of the hips pulling and staying short. The best way to stretch the hips is to fold a leg underneath you as you lay on your stomach, so it cuts across the other leg, and push down on it. Another simple way to do it is to cross your legs in a chair at a 90 degree angle and push your knee down away from you (not with your hand, but with your leg), while leaning forward over the leg. Try it now, since you're probably sitting. I guarantee that it is hard to do this, and that the outside hip muscle is tight.

We have to be really patient and stretch for up to an hour a day, thoroughly. I've been doing it this week and the pain is going away. Today I slept 8 hours for the first time in weeks.

Lollypop77

Dec 18, 2011

I have very similar issues.... Extreme lower back pain when I wake up in the morning. It is sooo bad that I can barely get out of bed. I've noticed that the amount of back pain depends on how many hours I am asleep in bed. My back doesn't feel too bad if I only get 5 hours of sleep, but then I'm tired all day long. If I happen to get 8 hours of sleep, my back hurts like crazy! The magnesium supplements and getting a harder bed sound like good ideas, also the stretching and strengthening abdominal muscles. Lots of times, doctors don't really know what is causing our pain. Its a trial and error process for then unless they see something obvious.

MattyBoySykes

Jan 01, 2012

The ANSWER:!!!!!!

I have/had the exact same problem as described on this forum! Wake up about 6am every morning with a large dull pain to my back, sometimes lower, sometimes middle but always uncomfortable and ANNOYING!.  I've tried doctors (head against brick wall scinario), i've tried tablets, ive tried a new mattress etc etc etc etc....

I took it upon myself one morning to sit and research possible reasoning behind this sodding issue and found it to be fairly common.  The ANSWER (for me anyway) - a CHIROPRACTOR!!! Not sure if you lot of heard of back 'manipulation' but it is DEFINATELY worth looking into on youtube etc.  For whatever reason (there are hundreds of reasons) our back is out of line, whether it be posture, bad mattress, old injury bla bla bla it will not improve unless reset by a professional.  Once reset (which is a very relieving procedure in itself) you can look to increase muscle around the spine by working out...swimming, weight lifting etc.. this gives as much support to your spine as possible and makes recurring issues less likely..but the beauty is, just go back again & again & again getting the 'manipulation' procedure because it works!!

What i will say though is that chiropractors 'usually' are not included on the NHS (best to check with your gp).. i have private health care through work with BUPA so that was me sorted.  If you dont have this luxoury i think the average session costs about £50 a pop.  But to be honest, i'd pay half my wage for a decent nights KIP!!!

Hope this helps.

Mat

tayciesoma

Jan 29, 2012

To: To everyone on this post

I to have had this pain for about a year, I started useing a memory foam mattress and that seem to help for a bit, but it is back now. I wake every morning with the pain in my back it wraps around my rib cage and into my ovarys. When I urinate it seems to get alittle better. Then as the day goes by walking around seems to help, but its back every morning, so discurouageing. Wish i could just sleep in one day but cant because of the pain, I have to get out of bed. Any advise please.

SJoanne

Feb 08, 2012

To: ccd2281

I have this exact problem, and had it about 10 years now. It started when i was 14/15 fairly mildly but over just a couple of years quickly progressed to a horendous pain. Like you said, i am unable to predict which mornings this will happen but when it does sometimes it wakes me in the early hours, other times i just wake up with it. A huge pain radiating from my back, its so hard to explain. I have also notice that I cannot sneeze, cough or take a deep breath in the mornings as this causes an extreme stabbing pain. Since the age of 16 i have been goin to see doctors and had the following at least twice to try and diagnose: Blood tests, X-rays, cat-scans, MRI's, Physio, Chiropractor, Osteopath and Acupuncture. Eventually I was refered to the pain clinic because they didn't know what it was......... Please Help! x

Grizwold

Feb 12, 2012

I have anterior wedging in my lower back. My hips in the middle of the night feels like some one has them in a vice squeezing them:( can ANYONE HELP ME???

CindiK

Feb 13, 2012

To: hawsun

Can someone please find a cure? How is it going? Even the psoas stretches are not helping me at the moment. I am tossing and turning every 14 minutes from about 4am and its agony just to roll over ... I must admit that going to bed at midnight and getting up a 5am is better! So its definitely more of a problem when sleeping for longer than 5 hours! Hey, this is tough! Honestly feels like colon or kidneys, I think I should visit a chiropractor!

Nicole1039

Feb 13, 2012

To: CindiK

CindiK...This is my first time posting, ever! I am so relieved that I am not alone, but at the same time I couldn't be more frusterated! I have had bloodwork, Xrays, seen a Chiropractor and tried a new mattress and NOTHING has come close to helping. I thought the Chiropractor visit was helping after my first visit, then as time went on I realized it was not at all. I also feel like it's my kidneys. It blows me away with all the comments on how when you urinate in the morning, there is slight relief. I thought I was crazy when I discovered that myself. I was thinking it could be my ovaries, but 2 yrs ago I had a video laperoscapy that came back normal. I am 39 yrs old and have been dealing with this pain for 2 years now. I don't even know what else to do or where else to turn at this point :(

CindiK

Feb 14, 2012

To: Nicole1039

Nicole, to be honest, the psoas stretches DID help. I had ad hoc good nights. You can google them and find some that you like. Have you tried massaging your stomach or just pressing in deep between the hip bone and the pubic bone. You can push really deep until the pain goes away (as the muscle relaxes). Its pretty painful and a bit scary, because you keep wondering if there are things in there that shouldnt be pushed, but it DEFINITELY relieved my pain completely at about 4am this morning and I woke with my alarm at 6am. I am not sure why this is happening NOR what the cure is, but I am pretty convinced that its the psoas muscle and the internal muscles of the spine between the hips are the culprit. The feeling though, is definitely a feeling of colon filled with gas as well as chronic back pain between the hips.. I think the fact that one gets UP is more the answer than the fact that one urinates. We need to be more disciplined to try various activities and see what transpires. Like for example, getting up at 4am, NOT urinating, JUST walking around for 2 minutes, to see if there is similar relief to urinating. I somehow doubt its organs. I think its a combination of skeletal and muscle. But that's my GUT FEEL, note the pun! hahaha! Why arent doctors onto this?

hawnsun

Feb 15, 2012

To: CindiK

Hi CindiK,
The psoas exercises were great but did not completely get rid of my groin pain in the morning. So, upon recommendation from an airline friend who works on the ramp loading planes, I just started using a foam roller and have been using it on my quads which are sooo tight. It's wonderful for myofascial release of any knots in my muscles. I'm not sure how my quad muscles got so tight but by loosening up these muscles my groin and lower back are getting better. I just follow the directions which came with my roller; I lie face down with the roller under each quad separately and roll one inch at a time or until I can feel a knot in my muscle (where it hurts so badly) and keep it there while breathing and relaxing into the pain. He told me to get a good roller (I spent $39.99) which 'gives' a little; you don't want one that is too hard and will hurt too much to use (the myofascial release hurts enough). Right now I'm still experimenting and not sure if this is the 'cure all' but it seems to be helping. I'm also using it on my calves & shoulders which are also very tight. Let me know if you try this and if it was helpful.

hawnsun

Feb 15, 2012

To: CindiK

Johnnyquerry

Feb 15, 2012

To: Iplikator

A great help against back pain is an acupressure mat. Try Iplikator, it is really effective (based on acupuncture), it heats the zone, makes the blow flow, and relieves pain. I use it every morning as I wake up, and it really helps to start the day with no pain.
Check it out at dolorfree.com/en (or just google it)
Good luck

CindiK

15 hours

To: Hawnsun

I actually have a roller, it might be a little hard, but never thought of quads being connected (wow!), but certainly worth a try. I do use it for the glutes and calves. Will give it a go and let you know. Interestingly enough, I did find slight relief after doing a quad stretch. Just the normal one of standing and holding your foot. Ever hopeful!!! I've actually written to a good orthopaed friend in NZ and waiting to hear if he has any insight, if so, will post!

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