I have an almost 2 1/2 year old son who began complaining of back pain in mid-October. We had just had another baby, so I didn't really think much of it at first. Then in early November he wouldn't walk, after x-rays and blood work all came back normal our pediatrician diagnosed him with toxic synovitis. He began walking and was back to normal in a couple days. However, the occasional complaint of back paincontinued, most of the time when he was laying down. We took him back in to the Dr. and had more x-rays done. Then in the beginning of December he began to complain of back pain when he was in his car seat. Again, i just took it as he wanted out, nothing too alarming. It has gotten worse that now he will scream like he is in enormous pain whenever he's in the car seat. I have since paid close attention to what it is that hurts. He always grabs for the middle of his lower back with his right hand and says that's where it hurts. We had a Britax Boulevard carseat since April and were praying that it was the carseat that we went and got a new one. Same thing in the new one. I then began watching him sit. When he sits he will not sit with weight equally distributed on both hips, he'll immediately shift his weight to one side or the other, or need to sit sideways with a leg up, then he's fine. Since a 5 point harness prevents him from doing so, he can't figure out how to fix whatever it is that hurts. This week he also started it in the stroller. He will not sit on my lap without shifting to one side or the other. Even if I distract him with TV or a snack or anything he's all over the place. If I try to make him sit straight he will immediately begin kicking his legs and squirming his back all over the place, and then scream. Our pediatrician ordered more x-rays but I don't know what else to do or who else to see for a consult.
I also have a 2 year old son who has been complaining of back pain and it bothers him more when he is lying down so at night he wakes up frequently and cries, he also would complain in his car seat trying to push up from sitting. I have noticed that he doesn't like to sit with his weight on both hips he moves around and won't sit for long. He also has had many x-rays which come back normal. He does have some abnormal blood work results which show some inflammation, but they don't know where? I was sondering if you had made any progress on a diagnosis or treatment. Right now my son takes NSAID (anti inflammtory) and sometimes codiene for pain. does your son have consitpation too???
I also have a 34 month old dauther who's been complaining of back pain for over two months now. At first I ignored it thingking she was just mimmicking what her dad says (he often has pain on his back). But she kept bringing it up and I noticed that she fidgets in her high chair, the carseat and the bed before going to sleep. She often just mumbles "my back hurts" in a soft voice and I know she's telling the truth. The pediatrician recomended giving her Motrin, which I did every day, 2x per day, for a week. Though it seemed to help relieve her pain, the pain didn't go away. I have continued to sporadically give her either Motrin or Tylenol when I think her pain is really bad but it's still there. We saw an pediatric orthopaedist who took x-rays and said that everything seemed well and that the only thing they saw was a curvature of about 12 degrees that didn't warrant any pain or treatment at the time. We are to repeat the x-rays in six months to see if the curvature is still there, has improved or stayed the same.
Recently my daughter has started to complain about her diaper being too tight (though I know it is not because I can see how loose it is around her waist) and I'm wondering if it's related to the back pain.
I'm not sure what to do at this time. I wish the pediatrician would recomend having an MRI or something so I may suggest it to the pediatrician. Let us know if there has been anything new that has come up or if you've been able to find out the cause of the pain.
Have you thought the pain may not be the back at all but maybe their kidneys? The reason I say this is because I have a daughter that at the age of 18 months, was diagnosed with kidney problems that caused a lot of discomfort, especially when sitting or lying. The pain is usually just under the rib cage in the mid part of the back.
I am not trying to diagnose your child, but it is definitely worth checking into. Hopefully your Doctor will take some suggestions like this one. I truly hope you find some help for your child. The one thing for sure, don't let your Dr. brush it off, there is something definitely wrong and needs attention. This goes for all the other people that has responded to your entry. Good luck to all of you.
I was wondering if you ever found anything out? My daughter has been complaining of the same things...... So far x-rays, urine screens, and blood work have all came back normal. We had an MRI late last week but I'm still waiting on the results from the dr. Just curious in the meantime.
Yes, I need to know if any of you came up with a diagnosis. My son at the age of 3 started complaing of back pain only in the car seat. We had switched to a booster to see if that helps, it doesn't. We have had x-rays only. It has been 7 months since he started complaing . It;s only in the car seat though, so I don't know how serious I should take it.
Hello. I am not sure how much this can help... I was around 1-2 when I started complaining about back pain. I would have to crawl and scream in pain. I was sent everywhere to all kinds of cancer doctors and no one could find anything. Eventually the doctors diagnosed it as meningitis. Then, I guess the medicine helped because to this day I am a very athletic and healthy child. You might want to check this with your doctors.
Sarah, I would suggest you look into finding a pediatric chiropractor... Someone who's specialized in pediatrics, not just any old chiropractor though... A good source for finding a referral is here: http://www.icpa4kids.org/locator/index.php
Pediatric chiropractic adjusting is VERY gentle, involves no pain, and is completely safe. It could be all that's needed for your toddler's problem.
My son will be 3 in August and has been complaining of back pain when he is in the car for 6 months. At first it was infrequent and I thought it was discomfort from car sickness, and now much more frequent and now he tells me that it is his back. We have tried changing the seat, adding a pillow, changing cars, and it is always the same thing.
I took him to a pediatric orthopedic, and he took an xray and said that everything was normal (although did not show me the xray) I was dissatisifed with his service and will be getting a second opinion.
After readining everyone's experiences, something must be going on, and I notice that all of our children are close in age.
I am desperate also. My daughter is 32 mo. and wakes up in terrible screams at night. The Dr. thought it might be night terrors but she does say that her back hurts and it is usually were the kidneys are. The dr. did a tap test on her kidneys and she nearly doubled over yet all urinalysis came back with no growth. She also screams in the car seat arching her back and pulling at the harness, but honestly I never put two and two together until reading your comments. I thought it was just two year old stuff. I am very concerned. She has had this problem off and on since she turned 1. The suggestion about the pediatric chiro. is a good one. We are also checking her for milk allergies. She was nursed until 11mo. and that is about the time it started (when she was switched to milk). My oldest daughter is casein intolerant. Milk allergies are directly associated with night wakings; so that is our next step. Thought that might help. I will let you all know the results. We go to a holistic pediatrician and she has written medical papers on food allergies and intolerances relation to behavior and sleep patterns. Hopefully this will do the trick.
This is a popular complaint of toddlers huh? My 24 mo old daughter has been saying her back hurt off and on for a couple of months. She has a history of urinary tract infections. So initially I freaked out and took her to Patient First. They did a blood panel and urinalysis...nothing but a virus detected...stomach they said...The back pain radiated from her stomach. So after that I ignored her saying that and dismissed it as gas. Well I mentioned it at her 2 yr old checkup and her doctor did not like that one bit! She is ordering complete blood work, xray and MRI. I am also going to request another urinalysis. She told me it hurts 2x today and 4x 3 days ago. The pain is real. We have not even mentioned the word "back" in front of her for days and she will touch her back and say softly that it hurts. She has also said her hair hurts and fooled with the bottom of the back of her head (which of course is the top of her spine) She also has a rash called pityriasis right now. Obviously my imagination is running away with itself. Help feedback anyone....waiting stinks!
I don't want to frighten anyone but its better to error on the side of caution with this matter. My younger sister complained of back pain around age 3 to 4. It was much worse when sitting and lying down she had to get up and move around. After many Dr visits and test over several months an MRI revealed a tumor on her spine. She had some blood test come back with odd results prior to having the MRI but the Dr just didn't put it together and xrays did not show the cancer. She even had MRI's of the neck done but the tumor was lower so they did not find it at first. She then had surgery and radiation to remove the tumor. The good news is that she is now 29. My advise would be to get another opinion and an MRI. Some Dr told my parents that nothing was wrong with her that it was all mental. Your the parent and you know when something is not right with your child.
My two year old has been complaining of back pain for 8months mostly in car seat and when sleeping. Doctors ordered mri came back she had lypomitosis just went back for another mri last week because of three uti's, also went to neph doctor that said she may have a neurogenic bladder caused by the lypomitosis. However her second mri results show no lypomitosis. This mri states a vessel but cannot exclude a spinal sinus tract. Now i dont know what to do. Hope this helps someone.
My daughter is 3 and has been complaining of back pain for over a year and a half. At first it was her lower back and now it is lower back right butt cheek and behind the right knee. we have had x-rays, MRIs, bone scans, blood work. We have seen pediatricians , Orthopedic doctors, Rheumatologists, and even osteo manipulation doctors no one can figure it out. Her ANA blood work is outrageously high but everything else is normal. She is now having many more symptoms but my husband and I are very concerned. If any of you come up with anything please write in. We are desperate!!!
I can't believe how many entries there are with same age and same problem. My daughter is 2 1/2 and has been complaining for a couple of weeks that her back hurts when she is in her car seat. Out of the blue she screams a loud painful screech crying that her back hurts. She loves watching movies in her super comfy car seat, so I know this is not a behavior issue. I guess I will go to the doctor, but I will be ticked if they just want her to take motrin. That is just treating the symptoms not seeking the problem. The only other health issue we have had is that she woke up last not with a huge nose bleed. It was not dry in the house, and this has never happened before. I don't think these things are related though.
We have the same problem. My daughter who is 2 has started complaining of back pain only while she is in her carseat. She starts complaining only a few minutes into a ride and says "Ouch mommy, my back hurts." She reaches her hand behind her to grab her back and show me where it hurts. Then she shifts back and forth on each side of her hip to try and get comfortable. I cannot figure out what is causing this. I've made an appointment with a pediatric chiropractor for next week though, because it's been atleast a month now that she has been complaining about this pain. At her 2 year checkup her pediatrician just recommended putting a small pillow behind her back for lumbar support, which has not helped at all. I feel so bad for her! She does also wake frequently at night all of a sudden -- 8-9 times a night, and seems to be whining, but isn't saying anything coherently. Wonder if maybe she is also experiencing the back pain at night while she is lying down.
Hi Sarah, have you found an answer yet for your child? This really is strange. I have a 3yo son who compalins of back pain whilst in his car seat. Often holding right hand on right side lower back leaning to left. This has been going on over a year and I was told by a doctor it must be in his head. We did kidney test, blood test, xrays and visual spine tests and some movement tests that all seemed to come back Ok. Was told if it get worse perhaps we could do MRI/Cat scan (one of these?- but apparently its not nice for kids and they would rather not if there is no dire need). He complains approx 1-2 weekly but not every time he is in the car. I have changed seats and used pillows that have not fixed his whinge. I know the pain is real as the look in his eyes and his actions tell me so. Lets hope this is a growing thing we have all found, and perhaps they have pinching nerves or something that is common whilst seated at this age but will grow out of??? Lets hope?? Dunno?? I look forward to any more discussion or feedback on ths. Of a side note - my son coughs a lot and just been diagnosed asthmatic and he had a fall with me when he was about 8months old - wondering if anyone else has similar events to go along with childs seated back pain?
My daughter has just turned 3 and had been complaining of a sore back recently too. An awful lot of coincidences with age and car seats. She complains when in her car seat but also at other times. Should I be making an appointment at doctor?
The car seat I have is 'Safe-n-sound Explorer snakes and ladders'. But I have tried other with similar result. Son also complained of back pain whilst strapped into high chair. I really think its a juvenile spine thing...? Be great to have a doctors response or anyone who has done a CAT/MRI scan.
I have a Britax Marathon as well and my son starting complaining of back pain and leg pain about 6 weeks ago. He is 2 1/2 yrs. old. All of these entries seem too coincindental. These kids are all about the same age and all complain of back pain while in their car seats. My son also broke out in a rash around the same timeframe and it still has not healed. The doctors believe it to be unrelated and possibly a form of eczema or impetigo. We're treating with antibiotic ointment, but I'm very concerned.
Reading your posts I feels like I wrote them myself. My daughter is now 4 and has been complaining for 2 years. I've switched out car seats, boosters, etc. all the same things you have all mentioned. She has gone through many tests including catscan and an MRI. She is due for a bone scan but I"m waiting. I found this post about a month ago and I was happy to know that my daughter wasn't the only one going through this. Back then I had nothing new to add so I didn't post then.... BUT now I do.....
I'd like to pose a question. Do any of you have a family bed? Needless to say I do. A couple of months back I met another mom who was going through the same issue as us. She took her son to 2 doctors. First one said the typical try this, try that, everything all you have mentioned already. HOwever the second one asked the question of the child's sleeping. Having a child sleep in the same bed as the parents can restrict the child's movement and possibly causing minor aches and pains as our children are encountering. Children need space to stretch and roll around in their beds and if sharing a bed with others can restrict their mobility. They're like us, when we sleep in an uncomfortable bed, we start to ache. It's more critical to toddlers since they're growing. This is basically what this lady's doctor told her. Unfortunately, she was just some lady I met on a random occassion so I don't know how her son is now doing. However, about 3 weeks ago, we had moved into a new home and I had my daughter sleep in her own room by herself. She does occassionally still crawl into bed with me, but the good news is, she has not yet once complained about her back since she's moved out of our bed. I'm not sure if this is a coincidence or what, but I'm willing to test this out for awhile longer to see if her backaches return. Hopefully the problem has been rectified and we can forego the bone scan. I'm going to be watching her carefully for awhile and hope this was the solution afterall.
I wanted to share this with you all and hope that it's a simple solution as this. I"ll post back if the problem returns, but I'd love to hear if this is the cause for you all too.
Just found all of you today. We have a Britax Marathon and an almost 3 year old complaining of back pain! We are seeing our pediatrician this afternoon (she has been complaining for 3 weeks)..same story, her daddy says that a lot, so we thought she was 'playing'..is now' hunching over' when she sits in her seat. I feel so bad, she commutes and hour with me to and from work 3 days a week... I pray it is this simple.
We have seen similar symptoms. Our daughter, almost three, has complained sporadically of back pain for the last 9 months. Sometimes we can go one or two weeks without a complaint, then she'll say at bedtime or in her carseat that her back hurts and puts her right hand on her mid to lower back. No screaming pain, just the complaint. Urine test normals. X-rays were normal. She otherwise plays normally and falls asleep at night.
We have the Britax Marathon and Britx Roundabout car seats. Our commute to daycare each day is very short - about 1.5 miles. Nothing about the car seats seems abnormal. We raised the straps a notch.
Wow, these stories sound similar to my life. My son is almost 3 and has complained of back aches only in his car seat and while lying down. He typically screams out in pain within a few minutes into a car ride. However, he also is experiencing constipation and having problems walking. He stumbles around like a "drunken sailor" especially in the morning. He is always asking me to hold him because as he puts it "I have jelly legs and can't walk good". His typically conservative doctor was a little concerned with the symptons, and has requested an MRI. He is wanting to rule out tethered spine syndrome. If anyone else child has experienced these additional symptoms, it may be worth looking into.
Our 33 month old bot also complains of back pain in his lower back, right on the spine. He was sick and had terrible constipation, but had complained of back pain even before this. He does sleep with us, I hope that is the issue. It is unnerving.
Hopefully these are just "growing pains" since all of our children are around the same age. But my 2 1/2 yr. old son just complained for the first time tonight that his back was "squeezing and itching" him. It was quite alarming since he plays rough and is constantly hurting himself in one way or another and doesn't seem to mind. But tonight he truly acted scared and very painful. He has no history of any urinary tract inf. or anything else related to this area. His pain seemed to occur while standing and then he would run to his "soft chair" and fidget around. I hope this is not the start of something! And I'd love to know the outcome of all these other cases reported.
does almost everyone on here have a britax? my son always cries when we put him in his carseat. we always have a hard time getting him in the car. we have britax in both cars, but i recently bought a different car seat. now my son (2 1/2) only wants to drive in my car. any connection?
Wow... My 2 1/2 year old girl has been complaining of back pain off and on for 2 months. She started vomitting this weekend (at night) and crying because she needed ice for her back. I took her to the doctor to find out she has a strept throat. She is being treated ... we will see if this stops the complaints of back pain. It is interesting to hear some of you say that your little ones acting as if the diaper is too tight. My girl has been taking her diaper off and saying "owwy" since the summer. I never put the back pain and diaper together. She has not had problems with her car seat. I will see if her back pain resolves....
Hey, joined the forum because my 2 year old son is also complaining of mid-to-lower back pain for the last two-months. He has a Dr's appointment next week as pain seems to be increasing but thought that it was interesting that we also seat him in the Britax Marathon. Coincidence?
Our daughter is 34 months old and has been complaining of back pain (middle to lower back) for a few months. She mainly complains when she is in the car seat (Britax Marathon - interesting trend...), but has recently started to complain when she is in her bed. Like many on this forum, my wife and I initially assumed that she was mimicking her mom talking about back pain (even saying that she needs a massage). Our daughter has a high pain tolerence and does not typically complain. So, since the issue is continuing we have set up an appointment with our pediatrician for this Thursday and will use all the valuable feedback from you all to guide the discussion. We will definitely insist on an MRI if other tests are inconclusive.
Good luck to you all and I will update with any relevant progress along our path.
Wow guys - I just realised the car seats I have been using are indeed Britex but came in different names like Britax Snakes and Ladders or Britax Safe and Sound....Im starting to think more and more there is something in the seat design that our sensitive kids are feeling...be it the lumbar support/seat belt behind, contouring.. dunno? I know the seat belts are always at best height as described to do in manual. My son is now 3.5yrs old and has almost stopped complaining completely - perhaps his extra growing has made the seat more comfortable???
I think we should all contact the manufactuer on ***@**** and let them know the tears and torment we are have all been going through using a Britex.
My daughter is recently 2 and has been complaining of back pain for 2 months. She screams in pain in the car seat, and we have a long commute each morning and evening to her daycare and my work. I have been to the doctor numerous times and have been very disappointed. I recently went to someone new and XRays came back normal but the screaming has not stopped. We have an MRI scheduled in three weeks. My daughter also has lots of trouble sleeping at night, and while 2 has rarely slept through the night since she was born. I have found this forum very helpful and will let you know what I find out.
Koverton: I watched a show on tv - I think the Today Show - in which a family had a small child who could not sleep at night, only a few hours (3?). They saw many doctors who told them that their child would grow out of it and basically did nothing. They finally saw a doctor who diagnosed a brain disorder - i think a portion of the brain was swollen. The child had surgery and almost immediately began sleeping normally at night. I'm not sure if back pain was involved with this child.
Now, this is a simple t.v. story and I would not pretend to know a thing about your situation. But I mention it only as one possibility, something to question and look into.
My 3 1/2 year old daughter has complained about back pain in her car seat (not Britax) on and off for about 9 months. She has started complaining about it when she lies down now for maybe 1 or 2 months. I have no idea what is wrong. There is no redness, swelling, bruising or other obvious external symptoms. I just decided to look online for possible diagnosis and found this forum. Maybe it's just growing pains. The pain does not last long and does not seem extreme. She has a bad cough that just won't go away, so I'm calling the dr. monday and I'll mention the back pain to him while I'm there. I hesitate to get all kinds of test done b/c our insurance does not cover a lot of tests. It doesn't look like anyone's dr. has given a diagnosis for this problem. Strange that so many 2-3 year olds have same problem though.
If the weather doesn't get bad I am taking my 2 1/2 yr.old son to the dr. because he has been complaining of lower back pain for awhile. I went by and picked up a cup so they can do a urinalysis. Will update as soon as we know something.
I too have a 2 1/2 year old complaining of back pain. I do have a Britax Marathon car seat but it is in our secondary car and is not the every day car seat. She was not complaining in that seat only in mine. Now we moved that seat (the Britax) into my car and she now complains in that one as well. She screams out in pain in complete hysterics. She has also been having horrible trouble sleeping. We put her to sleep and she stays up to all hours of the night. When you ask her to go to sleep she cries that she can't. I thought these were unrelated but now she says her back hurts when she lays down. She also started saying her pee pee hurts. I am starting to believe this is all related and will be taking her back to the Doctor tomorrow. If anyone has any information or has any of the same symptoms, your response would be greatly appreciated.
I am amazed that there are so many people on here with the same problem. My son who is 3 has been complaining about back pain for a few months. I didnt think anything of it at first but he has been complaining more frequently, at first it was his car seat now he has complained when he is eating and when he sleeps. Some mornings he wakes and tells me his back hurts and about 3 times in the last month or so he wakes and his legs are like jello and he cant walk for like 20 minutes. I didnt think anything of it being connected but I think they are. He was up in the middle of the night last night crying and screaming about the pain in his back and his leg. We have our first Dr apt on friday but I think we might be better off with a chiropractor. My son is also a tippy toe walker, hmmm Im just stomped but prayer we can figure out what is going on.
My son is 3 1/2 and has also been complaining of back pain. It does not appear to be at any given time. No one around had been complaining about any back pain. He told my husband about 7 months ago while he was playing with his toys. We did not think mcuh of it at the time. He has never slept well and mainly because of ear infections so we got tubes put in for that. But now he complains intermittently about the pain most of the time out of the blue. Rarely is he in his car seat when he complains. We have taken him to his pediatrician and to an orthopedic xrays and all test are fine. They do not want to do an MRI because i guess it is traumatic but I think I will ask for one anyway. Better a little trauma now than something worse later. I can deal with the trauma. I too was feeling alone in this and though I am sorry for your children I am glad I have others who understand what I am going through especially since the Dr.s don't. I have added this to my favorites so if any one finds anything please post. I will do the same. God Bless and good luck.
I have a son who is 2 and a half - he has been mentioning that his back hurts on and off for about 2 months now. We have a Britax car seat but i don't think that is related as he has been in that since he was 9 mths old anyway. He mainly mentions it at night when i put him to bed and likes me to stroke his back (lower back area). He doesn't really mention it at any other time. Maybe it is just growing pains as we all seem to have toddlers around the same age - but i am going to mention it to my Dr or Health Visitor next time i see them just in case - although being in UK i don't hold out much hope in getting any tests done any time soon!!!!
Hello, my daughter is ALSO in the same age category. She's 2 1/2 years old. She started complaining about back pain about 2 months ago while in her car seat mostly. She does NOT have a Britax. She has a VERY good convertable carseat made by Cosco. She's had it since she was 8 months old. When we got that carseat it was the best one you could find out there. My daughter is very tough and doesn't complain much about pain...except this! When it hurts her in the carseat she pulls on the harness, arches her back and crys and screams so bad that I start to tear up everytime. She reaches behind her back and says, "Ouch Mommy, my back hurt, help me!" and just crys and crys till we get her out. This happens almost EVERY car ride.
Here's some other info...just in case you all experience the same thing.
She's been having nose bleeds the past couple months.
She sleeps very wildly.
A funny one...she humps her butt up and down while trying to fall asleep.
She wakes up in the middle of the night every night.
My sister, my father and myself have scoliosis.
She's been potty trained since a week before she turned 2 and has been peeing on herself from time to time lately.
Also complained a couple times while walking and several times in shopping carts.
my son has been doing the same thing. They say the nose bleeds are because of allergies and I just thought is was because it was just a family trait. I have a lot of nose bleeeds and so do my older two. I still have to put him to sleep and he kicks his legs a lot and if he is not fully sleep he humps his butt also. He too has started to have accidents more frequently. May be these are just coincidences? He also wants me to rub his back and he tries to get me to make my hand cold when i do it.
My daughter has had the same problems. She is 27 months old. We also have a Britax ( Boulevard). She has been in this seat for over a yr though. I just wondered if your kids are still rear facing or if they are forward facing. We are going to the Dr today at 1:20 so we will see.
I just came across this thread as my 19 month old has also been indicating a back pain with her right hand pointing to her lower/mid back. This has been happening for a week or so. She tries to keep getting out of the high chair too and today, for the first time, just didn't want to get into her car seat. Another problem she has, which I am not sure is related, is that she walks with her feet pointing inwards and I am getting her checked by a podiatrist for this next week. I am wondering if her problem is related to her feet muscles not being well developed (which I think is leading to her walking with her feet inwards) and the strain this kind of walk has on her hips/back. I will post next week to see what the podiatrist says. I hope we all find out what is happening and help our poor little ones.
My daughter is also 2 and a half and has been complaining of back pain for a couple of months now. It happens most of the time while she is in her car seat and she arches her back while crying saying that her back hurts. She was also in a Britax Marathon, but I have since tried changing car seats twice to see if this was the problem. First tried the Graco Nautilus and she still complained so I then went and bought the new Britax Frontier which also did not help. I took her to the docter and she just told me to take better notes on when she was complaining and then to get back to her. She checked her back and no curvature of the spine or anything else that she could see. She did say though that she would be worried if she started having accidents with her potty training and or having trouble walking since that would be a sign of a pinched nerve in the spine. She also said it could be constipation. Has anyone gotten any farther with a diagnosis?
Of course my story is exactly the the same and being the worried mom after about 6 motnhs of this with my now 2 1/2 year old daughter I scheduled a doctor's appointment. Decided to see if I could find anything online first and stumpled upon all of you. I hope at least some of you have found answers - personally we share a bed like another mom here so I'll try that first but some other entries are scarey so we'll see the doc this week and hope to have some suggestions or answers for all of us!
I just can't believe this. I was thinking how in the world can I have a THREE year old with back pain? MY first thought was urinary tract infections...since as a child I had them myself. Since I was alarmed, I went to the doc soon after complaints..again in CAR SEAT ..I do not have the one you all have in common..its just a Graco..but mu poor son screams every time he get in there "my back hurts!' It breaks my heart to see him in pain that I can do nothing about. So, when I went to the doc he did the urinanalysis, blood work, throat culture (?), x rays which were terrible for my son he was petrified. The found everything was normal..and the doc said "well maybe he's constipated". This is not the case my son uses the washroom regularly. I don't know what else to do especially since you all are going through even more extensive procedures and finding nothing else wrong. I know it may be the right thing but I hate to put him through all of that. This is so erie finding all these post about it happening in the car seat and also right before bed when he is lying down.
I am in complete shock that all of these stories are almost identical and my son is no exception! He is 3 1/2 and has been complaining of his back hurting for months now every time he is in his car seat (not a Britax). He seems to have no other symptoms, but he complains occasionally in bed as well and sometimes the other thing he says is that his back is "hot". I am so sad for him and don't know what to do and am hoping all of this is a growing pains thing since we are all so similar. Please keep posting if anyone finds out anything!
My daughter is 2 1/2. We don't have a britax, but a costco. She complains on and off that her back hurts, and sometimes it wakes her up. Almost always she is in her carseat. The only other time she complains is when she is in bed, or asleep on the couch. We have seen an orthopodist who called for a renal ultra sound and bonescan...
We have a clear CBC, Lyme titer and urinalysis. We have a bonescan and a renal ultrasound on tuesday.
Please God let it be nothing...I am falling apart.
Just spoke to pediatrician who said that this is a fairly common complaint amongst the toddler crowd. She feels that it is developmental and includes a muscle soreness/pain.
We are still having the bone scan tomorrow, just to be sure...Hope this gives everyone a much needed boost.
wow! i'm so amazed to see all these posts! my son is 2.5 and just started complaining of back pain a few days ago which coincided with complaints about his tummy hurting. he's not screaming in pain, just mentions it several times per day. he actually acts totally fine and normal other than mentioning that it hurts. i think he's only mentioned it once in the car seat though and never at night, so far. we also have a britax decathalon in my car and a britax roundabout for my husbands car and for travel (we just took a long plane flight with that one). i'm wondering if the fact that so many of us have britax car seats is just that it's a popular brand right now because it's supposed to be one of the better brands out there, and not because it's the britax seats specifically that are causing any problems.
my son never complains of pain like this and i know he's not fibbing or pretending. i am very worried since i think of tummy pain combined with back pain to be some problem with the kidneys or appendix. we went to the doctor today and the doctor said that he hesitates to do any extensive testing because my son's not acting like his pain is actually causing him problems. but, we did provide a urine sample for testing which i'm hoping to get the results of tomorrow.
i really hope it is just developmental as the previous poster, girlymomma, just mentioned.
if i find out anything from the urinalysis or otherwise, i'll post an update.
thanks for all your comments!
My son is 2 1/2 and started having back aches and tummy aches this past month. He has also vomitted a couple of times and has lose stool. I feel so hopeless! He has had an urinalysis done and it came back fine. My husband and I are currently collecting stool samples to be tested. I wanted to know if anyone has anything new to report on this because I am trying to be proactive. Any help or suggestions would be so greatly appreciated!!!!
Just this morning I decided to conduct a search on "lower back pain in toddlers" since my 22 month old woke up at 5am this morning saying "oweee, back hurts"...AGAIN! This has been going on (on and off) for the past 6 months. I, too, have a Britax Marathon (however, I believe that is just coincidental) and she has complained of lower back pain while sitting in it (as well as in her booster seat at the dinner table)
After about 2 hours of my daughter rolling around on the floor saying her back hurt, she let out a huge grunt and had a bowel movement. Then she was fine and stopped complaining of back pain. I was suspecting that constipation may have been the catalyst, but wasn't sure. My daughter was diagnosed within the first couple months of birth with a cow's milk allergy and we avoided any products made with whey or caesin. Then after 1 1/2 yrs of this I decided to begin introducing small amounts of milk products into her diet. Unfortunately, I was horrible at keeping track of any symptoms. If she didn't have a pretty immediate reaction, I assumed she was starting to tolerate the milk products. Therefore, I started giving her small amounts of cheese and yogurt (along with butter on toast).
Putting two and two together, I truly believe that her lower back pain all this time has been due to actually NOT being over this milk allergy and it was creating some constipation and then diahrrea. For the past 6 months, my daugther had been waking 4-5 times a night on most occassions and sometimes complaining of this lower back pain. At times she would say her "diaper was too tight".
So, my suggestion would be to have your child tested for a milk or dairy allergy. (Or at least keep track of when you're feeding him/her milk products and see if it correlates at all with the back pain). If there is no milk allergy, then I would suggest to monitor his/her bowl movements as constipation can cause this lower back pain. A little prune juice or Miralax will do the trick if this is the issue.
I sure hope this helps! Good luck! If I didn't truly believe her pain was due to her allergy/constipation, I would then think a kidney infection was on its way. In any case, THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG and nothing should be dismissed by any doctor that it's "just in their head".
I am a mother of 4 and my 2 older ones have never complained of back ache when they were this age, so this is all new to me. By reading these postings, now I am concerned. My 2.5 yr old daughter is also complaining about back ache. she sometimes puts her hand to her lower back. she started just last week after vomiting in the early morning with a slight fever and then complaining of a stomach ache. There is no particular place or time she complains, sometimes she would tell me but other times I'd just see her arch her back backwards while standing up and with her hand behind her back. And her car seat is a Graco not Britax. Some of the suggestions and postings sound scary...but good to know....thanks! please post any results that you might have.
I am a father of a 3 year old who started complaining of back pain about 12 weeks ago. Like most cases, it started in the car seat (not Britax!) but only on and off but has more recently become very frequent. She now complains whenever she is sitting or lying down for more than a few minutes. She does not appear to be hindered in her normal daily movement though in any way as she is able to throw herself around as much as ever! We took her to Accident and Emergency dept. when it got too much for her about 4 weeks ago and bloods and x-ray came back normal. We had her referred to a orthopaedic paediatrician and have today had a nuclear scan (bone scan). I am expecting a phone call tomorrow from the consultant with the result although judging from other peoples comments, it seems that it may also be normal. Our daughter was born by c-section and had to wear a harness when she was 3 months old for 3 months to ensure her hip joint formed correctly so we are wondering if this could be linked. We are also wondering about the possibility of the problem being muscular as rubbing it helps as well as a hot water bottle making things a bit easier. It is so very frustrating to not know what is wrong with your child or how to take the pain away but hopefully we will get an answer. If we do, I will post the info.
My son is 2 years and 4 months and he started complaining of back pain about 1 month ago. He used a britax marathon for the first year, but he hated that car seat. We got him an alpha omega (cosco i think), which he used for about 1 year. When he started complaining a month ago, we thought it was the car seat so we got him a third car seat. He is still complaining. I have not taken him to the doctor because i thought it was that the car seat was just uncomfortable. Reading all the posts, there seems to be a pattern, although X rays are done, they seem to be normal.
Further to my post on May 18th 2009, we have received feedback from our consultant who has confirmed that the bone scan for our daughter was completely normal. He has now arranged an abdominal scan although he has said that he does not believe that will show up anything. Clearly having all results back as negative has to be viewed as a positive thing but it is just so frustrating not being able to help our daughter. He went on to explain that although the professionals know a lot about medicine, they don't know everything (very reassuring!) and that provided there is nothing nasty there, we may have to just get on and deal with our daughters condition as best we can.
To follow up with our results. Our pedriatrician had us collect a stool sample and also did a CBC- Blood Panel to rule out Leukemia. His blood panel came back normal which was fantastic. He said to make note when my son complains of back pain, but don't draw a lot attention to it. We got the stool sample results back 2 weeks ago and it came back positive for Giardia (parasites in the small intestines). He was put on a compounded antibiotic. The pediatrician did say that his back could hurt from the lose stool and tummy ache too. He has started complaining again when he is in his car seat, but we have movies on an IPod that he sometimes watches and he tends to put it in his lap and watch it then say his back hurts. I tell him to hold it up because I think keeping his head down can put a little strain on his back. Either that or the Giardia wasn't completely taken care of. I will keep observing to make sure. I hope this helps a little or maybe will give some another avenue to look at.
I just came across this thread and am not sure if I should feel relieved to know my son isn't the only one going through this or worried for all these babies with back pain. My son is 34 months and recently began complaining of acute pain in his very low back (center). He holds his hand on it and often says it hurts when he walks. He's never complained in his car seat (we have a Graco), but has begun waking at night in tears. Very occasionally, he'll also complain that his toes hurt (usually all of them on one foot). His pain just started a week ago, the same time that he finished taking meds for strep throat. He's had a urinalysis, CBC and xray, which, aside from elevated sed rates (showing inflammation somewhere in him) are all normal. We've been asked to go back for follow up next week and possibly additional blood work to see if the sed rates have changed at all. I will certainly post an update if I find out more.
Wow - I am in total shock as to how common this complaint is. My daugher turned 2 last week and started complaining that her back hurts about a week ago. She would not have heard that from us, so I am concerned about it...it isn't something that a 2 year old would just come up with on her own. She says it about 2 times a day, but just goes about her regular routine. She does get constipated, but she is also complaining about this when she is having regular bowel movements. She too has a Britax Marathon carseat !?!?!? I have a dr appt tomorrow and will let you know. I suspected a UTI (urinary tract infection) but I don't think so anymore as she doesn't have a fever (and the last time she had a UTI she had a very high fever with it). I really hope everything turns out well for all of us. It is reassuring to hear that all the X-rays and bloodwork is coming back normal for all the kids above. Maybe it is growing pains?!?
When my son was about 2 1/2 he began complaining about his back hurting mostly while in his carseat. I worried a lot and tried to find information online, but couldn't find anything that seemed to fit his problem. He eventually outgrew it and is now 6. Now, however, my daughter is 2 1/2 and is starting to cry and complain of back pain while in her carseat! She does get some relief from putting a pillow on her lower back.
So interesting to read these posts! I definetly feel like there is a connection with the carseats. I don't have a Britax but the brand we have (Cosco) is a similar style to the Britax Marathon.
On a side note from an earlier post, I am now starting to suspect that my son may be asthmatic, though I don't know how these symptoms could be related.
My daughter complains also. Her first complaint was after doing a somersault. These are the ages for these gymnastics. Does anyone else think this could be it? Dd just started somersaults a few months ago.
my 2 1/2 yr old son is constantly complaining of backache as well, im glad i found this forum as i had been putting it down to him exaggerating? he constantly complains that his nappy is too tight even though i can see that its not, he has also started waking in the night crying un-controlably saying "hurt mummy", the past couple of weeks his stool has been really red? not all the time but quite often to think something is wrong... i have made an appointment at his doctors tommorow so hopefully he will have sum answers 4 me.. he always hates getting in his car seat also, even though i have changed it 3 times! im rather worried at the moment especially with the colour of his stools? i really hope the doc will give me some answers tommorow!
You may want to ask the doctor to have labs run for giardia. My son's back pain subsided after being diagnosed and treated for giardia. This is bacteria in the intestines and a strong antibiotic is used to treat get rid of it. I don't know that this is what you son has but it may be an avenue to explore. My son's doctor said that a child's back may hurt when he/she has a stomach ache and/or lose stool.
I came across another thread on another site that provides a lot of ideas on dealing with back pain in car seats -including keeping the carseat in reverse so the legs don't dangle (which can put pressure on the lower back) or providing some other foot support for them. I'm going to try it immediately! Hope this helps some of you!
thanks for that. the doctor has asked for stool samples and urine samples. so hopefully i will hear the results of them soon. fingers crossed. i will definatly speak to the doc regarding what u have said and see wat he has to say. to tell u the truth i have no faith in my doctor as when my son was 4 wks old i took him to see him 4 times as he was unwell, he told me that the only problem was constipation, a week later my son was in hospital with scepticema.. hopefully the results will show something.. thankyou. x
I posted last on 20th May 2009 about our 3 year old daughter. We since had an appointment with a paediatrician who could not identify anything further with our daughter's back pain. She said we could try physio/osteopath or mri but as we did not want an mri as this would involve general anaesthetic, we opted for an osteopath. Today we had an appt with a trained physiotherapist (who happens to be a trained osteopath at the same time!) and after explaining our whole history he looked at our daughter's spine and said it looked fine. He then said that either an mri could be done or he could do some osteo sessions on her back but that it would be more in the hope that it would help as he did not know exactly what's wrong. We opted for the osteopath sessions so he started the first session there and then. Our daughter always identifies the same area where it hurts (lower middle back) so he started work there and within 2 minutes he drew my attention to a spot which he had me feel (where our daughter indicated the pain was). When I applied pressure I felt a small 'gristly patch'. He said, that the same was on the other side of her spine and that if this was the problem, he could fix it in a few sessions. He went on to ask if she crawled much as a baby which she didn't. She used to shuffle around on her bum a lot. He then asked if we have a wood/laminate floor as usually babies don't crawl on laminate floors, which we have. He went on to explain that he has heard of cases where children have had back problems very young which was linked to laminate floors as they have not gone through the full developmental cycle. Anyway, he has said that we need to get our 3 year old crawling on the carpets upstairs for 5 mins a day (play time!) until we see him again on Tuesday as this will help her back. I don't know if our story fits for anyone else but thought I would post this in case it helps. It may not be our answer but it's the first thing yet in nearly 6 months of pain that makes some sense.
I'm in shock over how many of our babies are complaining of back pain!! It makes me so sad to hear my little guy complain on a weekly if not daily basis about his back. At first I brushed him off, but it's ALL the time. he turns 3 in a few weeks and plan on telling his Pedi at the 3-year physical.
My 3.5 years old daughter has been complaining of her lower back ache since last year too. Initially, we thought it could be due to her car seat and we had it changed as she only experienced pain when she is in the car seat. A month ago, her pains were so constant and her PD ordered for a X-ray and detailed blood test. She was cleared. We visited an orthopedic too and he said that he hope to concur that it is growing pains although growing pains seldom existed in lower back pain. Her PD has ordered for an MRI + Nuclear scan that will be taking place in two weeks time. I felt very unease because she has to be placed under GA. Could parents of earlier post do keep us updated on the possible diagnosis after your visits to the doc/hosp please? I am running out of wits end and my heart is totally wrecked when I see her in pain.
My 2 year old daughter started complaining on and off, every other day or less about back back for the past 4 weeks. She shows the middle of her back, asks for booboo ice and then go on playing or else. She developped a rash at about the same time that seems migrating on her body. It started on her hands and arms, then it got better there but moved to the laps and around the navel. It doesn't seems to itch and it's still not gone. She also had loose stools at the beginnig but not anymore. She's pretty tough and seems complaining without crying when she's settled down. No complains in the car seat. She doesn't wake up at night. The pediatician looked at her back, applying pressure on the middle of the back. It didn't seem to hurt her. Same things: I don't know what to think. I'm taking her for blood test for food allergy and see the pediatrician again.
My son had back pain, problems with going to the bathroom or controling it and we found out last year he had a tethered spinal cord and syringomyelia (cyst in spinal cord). The cyst is very rare. The tethered spinal cord part isnt as rare and could be whats going on with some of the children here. We've already went through the surgery for the tethered cord and he improved and eventually regained bladder and bowel control which isnt always the case. He first started complaining around 3 and hes 5 now.
As an update to my January 5th post, we still don't have any diagnosis for our daughter's back pain. We had x-rays done and the pediatrician mentioned that she may have spina bifida occulta (not spina bifida) which is a small bone missing from her spine. However, this condition is very common (10-20% of the population) and should not lead to back pain. As a follow up, we decided to have an MRI done. This was not a fun process as our daughter had to be sleep deprived and given an anaesthetic to help her sleep through the procedure. The results of this procedure were normal. We have also switched car seats and that seems to have helped some, although she still complains. She has also started to complain that her tummy hurts and asks for massages of her tummy and back regularly.
She is very active and none of this has slowed her down at all. She also has no trouble sleeping. So, we aren't sure where to go from here and will probably just continue to monitor her condition. Hopefully she will grow out of whatever is causing her pain.
I came across this forum like many of you searching for information on my toddlers is complaining of back pain. The symptoms are very similar. I have a 3yr old boy who is complaining of back pain in the car seat and when he jumps. I do know what caused his pain and hope it may add insight into for some of you. It all started when he jumped off a bouncer at a party and landed hard on his butt 2 days ago. He cried and seemed okay after a few minutes. Now he complains of pain in the car seat, anytime after jumping and sometimes after he wakes up. He complained at Little Gym yesterday after rolling around. There are no bruises or appearance of any problems. This is very similar to several of the posts here. If we had not seen him get hurt I would be in the same position as many of you wondering what caused it. We are taking him to the Doctor tomorrow and I will let you know what happens.
I have a 2 year, 3 month old who has been complaining of lower back pain in her Britax Car Seat for the past few weeks. I assumed she was just wanting to get out of the seat. Now I am really wondering if I should pursue this futher... does anyone have anything conclusive? I don't want to put her through a bunch of tests if there is nothing to find.... I wonder if supporting her feet would make a difference.
I came across this forum looking for answers too. My 2.5 year old son started complaining 2months ago of back pain. There are still so small that they can't really explain were the pain is. He complains of the pain constantly thru the day, walks with his hand in his bck under his pants. I called the dr. and he said this was probably pinworm. He sent some medicine, but the pain never went away. He now suggested benefiber (although my son does not suffer from constipation) as he wants to rule out anything inside. If this does not work he will send me to a gastrointestinal dr.
Another thing that comes up to my mind is that maybe he might have fell down and hirt his coccyx, i really do not know what to think, it really hirts me seeing him with such discomfort and not even knowing what it could be.......
I'm with nurse1207---does anyone have any definitive answers. I too have a 2 year old son doing exactly the same things everyone else is describing. Has no one gotten a good answer? ANYONE? PLEASE HELP!
No answers yet, mine had an xray of the spine, ultrasound of the abdomen, blood and urine analysis and everything came back normal. I wpuld hope some of the people who started with this problem way bck would write to see if they have any answers to this......My son still complains...
After reading these posts, I am very concerned that my 28 month old daughter has been complaining of back pain for at least three weeks. Her complaints started in the car seat, progressed to the high chair and I just learned that she said it this morning while lying down.
About a week ago I placed a box in the car that allows her to rest her feet more comfortably while in her car seat, but I am not sure how much this has helped.
We have an appointment with her pediatrician today for the back pain and I plan on asking multiple questions.
The Pediatrician asked numerous questions and had her perform multiple tasks: walking, picking something up, checking reflexes etc. He did not think it would be necessary to take a urine sample as a UIT starts with pain going the bathroom and only escalates to back (kidney) pain after noticeable side effects first.
So, he said we could do multiple tests that would probably be very stressful to both us only to come back with negative results~ no answers. He suggested watching her closely to see if I could pinpoint the exact spot and if it was pain or discomfort. He did notice that she has loose hip joint and her foot compensates to point in slightly. He said that we needed to be careful that she does not sit in the "W" position. The position is when the knees and feet point out. He said this position is terrible for the knees and actually teaches the body (knees/hips) to grow incorrectly. He suggested buying a bean bag that she could sit in. That way she was not sitting in that position flat on the floor. This was helpful but I was not satisfied and made an appointment with a reputable chiropractor that my family has used. The nurse said they see multiple children and she had heard the back complaint before. Yay!
The chiropractor was very caring, listened to all my concerns and felt that if she continually said something hurt at specific times, that there probably was an issue.
He did a full assessment on her and asked me questions about the pregnancy, delivery and any extreme falls or accidents. He felt that x-rays were unnecessary at this time but he did diagnose two conditions. She has a slightly twisted pelvis and something has been hurt with the vertebrae in her lower lumbar. I cannot remember exactly what the description was but I will post further details after our next visit. So he said that the twisted pelvis is common with breach babies which my daughter was and that the position can caused by this. He felt both conditions were probably older and that by sitting in the car seat with her feet dangling it had aggravated the condition. He said that position pulls on the lower lumbar and had probably gotten more painful with time. Anyway he proceeded to massage the lower back while I held her hand and asked how it felt. She said it feels good mommy. He had her lie on her tummy and did an adjustment on her lower back. It is nothing like an adult's adjustment with the twisting and cracking. He had a small instrument that placed against her shirt on her lower lumbar and it made a clicking sound with pressure and he did that about 3-4 times. He also had her lie on her back and did some stretches on her legs. She was thrilled and really seemed to enjoy it. He said with the lower lumbar the body wants to compensate by the shoulders back and tummy out. He asked that we try to make a game of crawling as much as possible to get the body to hunch over with arched back. We made an animal game and have been playing that daily.
We returned 3 days later and he went thru the assessment again~ he said no improvement, but that is normal in small children. He said he does not place children on a plan as they may adjust at any time. They also said the child can be more tender or quick to pain in the beginning of the treatment. We noticed this three days later when she was playing and kicked the ball hard. She started crying and holding her back telling me how much it hurt. Well, I called the chiropractor right away and he was off, but the nurse said to remember the tenderness and to ice it if possible. So, we turned on the TV and had her lie on a pillow case with an ice pack~ no problem. We return to the chiropractor today and I am anxious to see if her results have improved. I will keep you posted.
Oh, most importantly she is still complaining but it has decreased and stopped altogether in the high chair.
One more thing both the pediatrician and the chiropractor liked the idea of her feet resting on something in the car instead of dangling. They both said that could only help her discomfort.
My 30 month old son has been complaining of back pain for about 3 weeks now. The last place he complained was in his car seat (not Britax BTW), the 1st complaint was when holding hands walking in the parking lot. In his car seat he just says he needs to sit up more. His pain is more like an attack, and when it hits he gets a very bewildered look in his eyes, tries to find what is causing his pain and tries to get away from it - running away from everyone and curling up in a ball on the floor. Usually it only lasts a few seconds if I can get him to come to me so I can pick him up but there have been attacks that last several minutes. Changing his shirt (over the head) seems to cause pain every time but during an attack he points to the middle of his lower back; changing his shirt and walking while holding hands are the 2 times I can guarantee he'll be in pain - though the pain is not limited to just those situations. He is potty trained and stepping up onto the stool is almost unbearable to him (the only step he has to worry about in his daily life thankfully). He walks like an old man which leads me to believe his back hurts a lot of the time but he only complains about it when it's intolerable.
X-rays were normal, blood test was normal. We are being sent to a pediatric orthopedist but with the holidays it could take up to 3 weeks to get an appointment. Our ped (with over 20 years experience) said that back pain in such young children that is not a result of a fall/car accident is extremely rare and needs to be looked into for a cause.
The post about lyme disease caught my attention because he had 2 ticks this past summer, never had a rash or fever though so I'm doubtful that is the cause but I'll bring it up with the doctor since I totally forgot about it before.
Hello Everyone, I noticed no new postings sine January 2009. My son (2 1/2 yrs old) started complaining about back pain 3 weeks ago, very softly saying his back hurts (lower to mid back section). He has always been a 'shifter' when sitting, like he has ants in his pants, and now he is complaining when he goes down for a nap or occasionally when standing. I too have a britax car seat however we are not in the car that often for that to be the cause (i don't think) plus my 3 1/2 year old daughter has the same car seat with no complaints about back pain. I have yet to call the dr but started to do a little research on my own before making the appointment. to all the posters - do you have an update on your childs condition? all information is greatly appreciated. I hope you all have a wonderful holiday season!
My son started complaining of back pain in December when we went to Honduras. He was sitting in a booster for the first time and the rental car had a really hard metal part on the back that we thought was the cause. However, he continues to complain. I'm wondering about Giardia. In addition, my mother had spina bifida occulta; however I thought that was something that happened if not enough vitamins in early pregnancy? Two nights ago he had a big nose bleed which was abormal. Yesterday he had a vicious cough that started in the evening and went on through the night. Today we had lunch (pizza) and put him on the car seat, he complained of back pain, and suddenly threw up. If this continues (it's been less than a month of intermittent complaints, I will take to doctor and also post results.) My first search on other symptoms yielded the flu, but combined with the back pain it is a mystery. Hopefully it's growing pains or overly reactive parents, but I think it is great that we can share these common experiences and see what we have in common. I can tell you that my oldest daugther did not complain about this and she's been raised in the same environment. The last thing I was thinking was the quality of the mattress. My daughter (the oldest) sleeps in a quality expensive mattress, and my son sleeps in a cheap one. ? I'm going to try switching them and see if this helps.
My 3 yr old son started moaning about back ache 6 weeks ago, i dont drive so my son doesnt have a car seat but he mostly complains about it while sat on the sofa. I took him to the doctor today and just waiting for a letter to go for a scan. Reading all these is got me worried now.
My 3 year old daughter started complaining of back pain about 6 months ago, after a 6 hour car trip (followed by a few days of skiing). It started in the car and progressed to bedtime and then for about a week, the pain was so bad it was waking her up. It all sounds familiar to the posts in this forum.
We took her to the GP, tested her blood, urine, and had an ultrasound of her back. I also took her to my Osteopath, who said she certainly had some lack of flexibility in a small section of her back, which is otherwise quite flexible. He gave her 3 treatments of massage and gentle manipulation and felt this was enough.
The complaints have almost gone away now, but we also switched her car seat in the meantime, just in case. The new car seat didn't seem to hurt her in the same way, and the complaints only came after longer rides.
Last week we went to a Pediatrician for a second opinion and just to make sure. He said that back pain in a child of this age is a very serious complaint and that he always takes it very seriously. In our case, because she had improved so much, he felt that any of the really nasty conditions could be ruled out. He felt that the most likely cause was a spinal infection, which had settled down. He mentioned that Staph as an example of this type of infection. This could cause back pain and then simple recede.
I am not sure what I believe in the end, but it could have been an infection or some injury related to the car seat. She no longer complains about back pain, unless I ask her specifically (and this may simply be leftover attention seeking) but she almost never brings it up on her own anymore.
My son was dianosed with Giardia and the back subsided after he was on the antibotics for it. I did end up getting him a foot rest for each car so his feet don't dangle down. This can pull on the lower back. He likes having the foot rest and he hasn't complained of back pain in a long while. Hope this helps.
My 3yo daughter was just recently diagnosed with having Lyme disease
after a long process of doctors really kind of dismissing our concerns related to her pain (which has included back pain, leg pain mostly). We were told her pains were "growing pains" even though everything I read said growing pains don't happen during the day.
When her knee became swollen and she was having morning stiffness they paid closer attention. This is when they diagnosed her with having JRA (juv. rheumitoid arthritis) a disease which is most often a painless arthritis. This diagnosis couldn't explain all of the other symptoms we were noticing but the doctors (we saw ortho, rheumatology, neuro) once again had very little to offer our concerns when I pushed them on all of this. She was in pain (JRA is usually painless), she had headaches, wasn't sleeping well and had noticable fatigue and many other random complaints (it is hard to determine what is "normal" with this age group, huh?). Her Lyme titer came back negitive and even though the ELISA test is not supposed to be the only diagnosing tool for diagnosing Lyme the doctors seemed totally dependant upon it. Instead Lyme should be diagnosed by really looking at all of her symptoms.
Anyhow, for those of you that have children complaining of muscle or joint pain (especially if it persists and doesn't go away when the child is awake and back pain is a common Lyme symptom) please consider taking your child to a LYME LITERATE doctor. Don't bother with doctors that aren't considered "Lyme literate" because they will simply check the ELISA blood work and if it is normal they will often falsely think that rules out Lyme. You may also want to check out the documantary called "Under Our Skin" about Lyme disease. Good information for anyone that has a child.
I have learned many lessons through this process and would love to save someone else the trouble. Good luck to all of you! Be persistent and trust your instincts.
I know this was posted in 2008. But I HAD to post back. I went through the same thing with my 2 year old at the time. To make a VERY long story short, he would wake up in the middle of the night screaming in pain, he started to cry in the middle of something, then it would go away like nothing happened. I kept bringing him to the dr's. I brought him to the ER at one point and he had a spinal tap and was admitted. But they couldn't find what was wrong. Then he had gotten speckles on his butt and bruise like marks that wouldn't go away. From that his Dr. diagnosed him with HSP which he did have. But to make the story shorter, I figured out he was allergic to MILK of all things. And he would have a reaction 4 hours later. I too bought new carseats out of despiration. I wouldn't have ever thought in a million years milk would give a reaction like this. Since then I read all labels and he has been a new child. He no longer screams in pain, unless there is some sort of cross contamination, from a friends house, or something. But I wished someone would have told me this to save the heartache and sleepless nights and so much worry. I do hope things have gotten better for you. I just had to share from one mom to another. There was so much more in detail with head pain, behind the knee pain. sweating, temprature droping (i thought my thermometer was broken) so much more that I could get into detail. ALL OF THAT GONE GOING DAIRY FREE! I could not believe it! I have three kids. It's been almost a year. and I've also noticed no more ear infections, sinus infections. And when they do get sick, its unbelievibly just runny noses for a couple of days and that's it. And my husband used to take omeprazol (?) 2x a day for acid indigestion, and he no longer gets it. My oldest used to get migrains and no longer has them either. Not in a million years would I have guessed things would have changed for the better with no milk. I hope this helps somebody.
My daughter, 3.5 yrs old. Couple months now has been complaining of lower back pain. More recently, she has mentioned a couple times her neck hurts. Also a couple times, says her feet hurt and wants to rub them (assuming they've fallen asleep?). I am very concerned. I made an appt for her tomorrow morning with her pediatrician. I hope this is nothing or something very simple.
She is very much a dairy child, loves her milk, cheese, etc but has since she was one years old. These pain complaints just started a few months ago. I'm hoping to get some answers. I do feel terrible for her. I also can tell the pain is real by her voice and facial expressions.
Her complaints usually come after sitting on floor for a little bit. Haven't had issues while sleeping or riding in her car seat usually.
If anyone has more information or is getting any answers, please do share.
My daughter is 18 in May. She has been complaining of back pain since she was 12. We've been back and forwards to her Dr, who finally sent her for an MRI. The scan didn't show anything, except for a slight curviture of the spine. The orthopedic surgeon whom my daughter seen at the hospital said it was not causing the pain as it is only a slight curve which she will grow out of. The MRI scan was 2 years ago and she has once again started complaining about the pain. She went to the Dr 3 weeks ago, and was prescribed pain killers?????????????. I am going with her to her next appointment. As I type this she's gone to bed with a heat pad on to try to help. We're at our wits end. Why won't the Dr's try and find what's causing this pain. We were as good as told that she is doing it to seek attention. She's nearly 18, a lovely girl with lots of friends and a very nice boyfriend, why would she be attention seeking. If anybody can suggest any other avenue to follow, please do tell us. Other than going back to the Dr we don't know what else we can do to get her the help she so obviously needs.
I can't believe I found this forum. Thank you everyone for sharing! My 3 year old son has been complaining for about 6 months about back pain. He mostly gets up in the middle of the night, similar to many of the other children mentioned here, and cries that his back is either itching or hurting. Sometimes he complains in the morning and sporadically he complains during the day, but mainly it is during the night. He has been waking up once per night pretty often over the last several weeks. I've tried a number of different things like scratching his back, applying special lotion designed to prevent itching, and massaging his back. Usually at least one of these options works and he goes back to sleep. However, I'm getting concerned that his complaints of back pain/itching seem to be occuring more often. Thank you for all of the suggestions here, such as allowing him to sleep by himself. I do sleep with him at night and he may be feeling cramped, which may be causing the problem. I will also take him to the doctor because I feel like when something like this is happening it's important to check in with the pediatrician. It's amazing how many of us are dealing with the same issue with our toddlers!! Again, thank you everyone for sharing!
YIKES! So I wanted to check the internet tonight because of my 33mth old son. He has complained of the back pain mainly while in his car seat and while lying down. We are almost 6 months into the pains. Can it be growing pains? I cannot believe so many other children in this age range are suffering from the same thing. Now I'm very worried!
My 2.5 year old son started complaing of back pain only a few days ago. I am so grateful that I came across this forum. I am calling the Dr first thing Monday and getting him in. He seems to only complain off and on about it throughout the day, but not necessarily in his carseat. Mostly when he is walking. I was wondering if anyone else had a child complaining mostly about the pain while walking too?
I just read through all of these posts and I do have had similar problems with my 2 year old daughter. She is 27 months and has been complaining for a little over a month now. Back in December she started complaining of knee pain (like in her joints) and had brusing up and down her legs. We took her in and from bloodwork they were concerned about Leukemia. After seeing an oncologist who put her through a full body bone scan, abdominal ultrasound, and more bloodwork, the results came back inconclusive (and thankfully NEGATIVE for Leukemia!). The oncologist said it was probably toxic sinovitis by default, but after reading through the description, I don't think so. Her knee pain seemed to subside after a few weeks. Now all of a sudden about a month ago she started complaining of back pain. Mostly when she wakes up in the morning or during the night. She's a good sleeper (12 hrs at night) but has all of a sudden started having a REALLY hard time getting to sleep. And she wakes up usually 2xs per week crying of back pain. Also, she's been telling us for about a month or so that she wants to get down from her carseat while we're driving. And has started any and all tricks to prolong getting buckled in. She requests Motrin constantly (which I guess is helping her) but this is not a long-term solution. It's very hard on your liver! (to a previous poster, she is also 36 inches at 27 months old) I will try elevating her feet in the car and see if that helps. She has a check-up at the dr tomorrow and I will bring it up again then. Thanks to all of you for posting. I will post any and all findings after our visit tomorrow.
It sounds like what my son had. When things were at it's worst he was diagnosed with Henoch-Schonlein purpura (HSP). In the end, I strongly believe milk was to blame for triggering his HSP. All of his symptoms didn't go away like it was supposed to, but eased up. Not until we went dairy free, did ALL his symptoms dissapear. Before he was diagnosed, he was checked for Lukemia too. Which thank God, came back negative! Since symptoms of HSP are similar to lukimea.
I've gone through this with two kids who have now stopped complaining in car seats. What I have learnt is babies/toddlers spines have less cushioning between the joints. So when forced to sit upright in a car seat - the compression causes them a lot of pain. Try angling their car seats back, so the downwards pressure/compression is better alleviated.
I'm experiencing the same thing with my son right now. He's 2 years old last Tuesday I was called from work because he was vomiting at daycare so I took him directly to the emergency room to find out what was wrong. They told me he may have a case of Viral Gastroenteritis, on top of that his asthma was acting up, so I was told to give nothing but liquids and soups and of course his pump. A day or two go's by, the day he was actually suppose to go back to daycare, he woke up out his sleep screaming and crying, I asked him what's wrong he said my back. I asked him, do you mean your stomach he said no! my back I ignored it for a bit because I know the doc said because of the virus he may have stomach pains and I though that may have been what he was trying to tell me and not his back so I gave him something to drink and laid him back down. He screwworm and cried and tried to lay in fetal position but it wouldn't help, something said go back to the ER, so I did, they pumped him full of fluids said he was dehydrated and that his back pain could be from him spraining his back when he threw up from the virus. They gave him some Motrin and sent us on our way. Today is Sunday, his second visit to the ER was on Friday, yesterday he couldn't sleep at all last night I didn't get back to sleep until 7 o'clock this morning because he woke up almost every other 2 hours complaining, it's 2:44am he just laid back down to sleep. I don't know what to do, I made the mistake of trying to give him children ibuprofen for his back and he just vomited it right back up. I have no choice but to take him back to the ER, I'm just surfing the web for better answers because the Doctors aren't giving out enough information. I need help just like the rest of you and I am honestly scared it may be his kidney's, I asked him where his back pain was and he showed me with his right hand on his back, but I think it was to high up for back pain and asked him if it was closer to the lower part of his back he said no and kept trying to reach up on the upper right hand side of his back. I'm going to research some more but I wish you guys luck with your children, and if any one has any updates please post them ASAP!
Thank you everyone for sharing your stories. Although it is heart-breaking to hear that so many other children are in pain, it is also 'somewhat' comforting to know that we are not the only family going through this.
My 23 month old daughter was recently diagnosed with "Transient Synovitis" (inflammation of the fluid in the hip-joint). On the morning of July 1st, my daughter got out of bed and began screaming in pain. She said her left "knee hurt". I must admit that she was in great spirits, however, everytime she tried to walk - her leg would shake, she would cry and she would then ask to be carried. We took her to the emerg at the nearest hospital. They examined her, checked her temperature, took x-rays and determined that nothing was visibly wrong with her. The doctor said that it 'could be' "Irritable hip" a.k.a. "Transient Synovitis" but, she recommended we see the Orthopaedic Surgeon. On Friday, July 3rd we went to see the Orthopaedic Surgeon. He looked at the x-rays, examined my daughter and agreed with the first Doctor's diagnosis of "Transient Synovitis". He said that we should begin to see improvement in the next few days and that full recoverey would take at least 10 days. By Saturday, July 3rd my daughter was able to bare some weight on her leg (in short spurts). By the evening, my little angel was crawling and sliding on her bum all over the place. By Sunday, July 4th she began walking. She was still a bit shaky on her leg, but, walking none the less. I was so thankful that she was healing and believed that we were now 'in the clear'. On Monday, July 5th - we went for a follow-up appointment with the Orthopaedic Surgeon. He checked my daughter legs, watched her walk and then said that it looked like she was on the road to recoverey. From that point on, there were no complaints of pain from my daughter - she seemed completely back to normal. Yesterday, (July 13th) my daughter woke up crying in her sleep (11:40pm). She was crying non-stop for at least 10 minutes and would not tell me what was wrong (I assumed that she had a bad dream and that she was just being fussy). After the major crying had stopped my daughter turned, looked at me and said: "Mama, knee hurt". I brought her in to my bed and tried to distract her from the pain by putting on one of her favourite TV shows. It did take her mind off the pain, however, she could not stop moving her leg. I wanted her to relax but, she kept fidgeting. She was up til' 4am until she just couldn't keep her poor little eyes open anymore. The next day (July 14th) I was scared and shocked when she told me "Mama, back hurting". I thought to myself "I can't believe that this is still not over!". Anyway, we are going to see my family Doctor tomorrow at 12:15pm and I am going to ask him to refer us to a Pediatric Orthopaedic Surgeon. I will definitely post all of my findings (my daughter's results) with all of you, in hopes that it may shed some light on some of your situations. xo
In many cases back pain in children is referred from the abdominal area. A dilated colon can cause pain like this. This was the case with my child. After talking with our doctor (who recommended Miralax) I started my child on milk of magnesia 0.5 to 1 ml daily to give her colon a break by keeping the stool soft. After 4-6 weeks I stopped that and started her on metamucil. about 1/8 of an adult dose. She has been much better. I still have to make sure she potties regularly and we have special prizes for poopooing. I never realized it but looking back it is likely she was retaining stool. Even though she was going once daily she really needed to go 2-3 times dialy. It's hard to know why a child would retain. There are multiple reasons. Becoming concerned about privacy, dirtiness but once it becomes a problem it spirals quickly because BM's become painful. Obviously there are many causes of back pain in children but this is the most common scenario for this age.
Even though I didnt use the medication the pediatrician recommended I owe him credit for figuring out what was causing the pain. He spend nearly 30 minutes with me and really listened. He was wonderful.
Atleast now I know Im not the only one going through this my daughter is 2 1/2 and shes only been complaining for a few days but that was enough for me to call to DR. I notice that she complains while shes active which is alot because she doesnt sit still unless shes asleep. She especially complains when shes squating or sitting and gets up from that position. What worries me the most is that she has an extremely high tolerance for pain and for her to complain about it sends up a red flag really quick. I have an appointment later this afternoon with her Dr. Wish all of you and your family luck!
my son (he's 2 1/2 yrs. old) first started complaining about an "itchy" back about a month ago (august). it started in his high chair, then the car seat, now sometimes right before he falls asleep. half way through the night he starts to mumble as if he's uncomfortable. in june he was diagnosed with a UTI. kidney ultrasound and vcug came back normal. have an appt. tomorrow with his dr. will definitely post an update as soon as i have something worth mentioning.
God bless, protect and heal our lil. ones.
my son is 3 but has been complaining of back pain for almost a year, I got him the graco 5in1 carseat and it seems the pain started not long after that I have held off taking him to the dr, thinking it was a way for him to get my attention, becase momy was going to have another baby. He woke up screeming last night, and looked up back pain fir toddlers that's when I found ur comments, did anyof you ever find the results
My daughter is also 2 1/2 and has recently started complaining that her back hurts. She said it a couple of times in the car seat. She tells me once in awhile that she needs to go to the dr cause her back hurts. I'm going to call in the morning because I have now seen 2 different bruises on her lower back. It's making me concerned and I'm also going to check the car seat that my mom uses cause that's when she complains the most. I thought at 1st she was mimicking me as well because I hurt my back about a month ago and she started this about 2 weeks ago. The bruising part is what concerns me.
our son is 2yr 3 months andhas been showing signs of lower back pain, he has been reaching his hand around to his back now for a couple of months. at first i thought maybe this was related to his diaper, but i don't know. the last two weeks he has been in serious discomfort. He mostly has trouble walking and picking things up. he is a very healthy boy. we have taken him for sveral x rays and blood tests. We also seeked the advice from a chiropractor. the chiropractor feels that his hips qwere twisted. he made an adjustment. Which we thought was helping but for what ever reason things have gotten really bad lateley. My boy can't even stand never mind walk. Sleeping has now become difficult as he can't seem to get comfortable. He is normally a very enrgenic and happy kid. It would seem like he has a fairly high tolerance for pain. I feel helpless as i can do very little to ease his pain. He has verey comfortable beds which he never seemed to have any problems sleeping up till this past week. We also have the top of the line car seat available to us. he never seems to complain in it. Three was some difficulty at birth. The doctor had to use forceps to pull him out. I wonder if that isn't the cause of this? We have taken him to see several doctors and they can't seem to figure anything out. We have been referred to a pediatritian. we hope that we can resolve this issue soon.
I have a 2 1/2 year old with the same symptoms. Wake up middle night sore feet, legs, back hurts in car seat (Britax Marathon) Have a doctors appointment tomorrow. Thank you all for your posts as I will be better prepared for the doc visit tomorrow. If we find anything I will post immediately. Thank you again.
I have a 2y3mos old son who is very small for his age but very normal in every other way. He complained of lower back pain 3 days ago. It started at the same time that he was going through a cold with fever of 102. He said "owie" and would touch his back and later in the day also started complaining of pain when we changed his diaper. We were told to go to the ER by the pediatrician to rule out appendicitis since he was squirming when we touched his belly. His pooping was normal at this time. The Ultrasound did not show appendicitis and cbc was normal so we were sent home. Today is day 3 and his back pain has improved but not gone away completely. His fevers are gone. But he still says "owie" and "my back hurting" when we pick him up and upon awakening. I was thinking back and remembring that even 1 wk before this, he did complain of his pipi (private parts) hurting when we strapped him in the car seat. I have not put him in the car seat since his symptoms are getting better. I do not want to aggrevate his back pain by putting him in a car seat yet. This site has been tremendously helpful for me and I would like to thank everyone who takes the time to share their stories. I am an adult physician and I can tell you that this has been more helpful then what any pediatrician would have to offer on the matter.
Hi Everyone, I am so glad I found this forum. Just knowing that there are other frustrated parents out there is comforting. My daughter is 2 1/2 she's been complaining of backpain while in her Britax Boulevard car seat for about 4 months now. There has been one time when she woke up in the middle of the night having backpain. She is also experiencing what I have determined to be "growing pains". She has pain behind the knees at random times and sometimes at night. She has always been a poor sleeper, it is not uncommon for her to wake up 2 times a night.
Based on one mother's experience on this thread (mykidsaremyheart) I decided to take dairy out of her diet for a few weeks. I was very hopeful that she was better but no she's still waking up during the night and has complained of backpain during the no dairy trial period.
So I decided to look more into the issue of the carseat. Some people have replied that legs dangling can cause pain and now I think that must be the case with my daughter. When my husband is driving and my daughter complains of pain it goes away when I hold up her legs. Also I found this thread about switching to a deeper seated carseat to help create a better leg angle http://www.car-seat.org/showthread.php?t=108509
So my 4 month old is going to get the Britax for awhile and I'm going to switch my daughter's carseat. Maybe I'll just try some sort of leg rest first I haven't completely decided.
I am a physical therapist and a mom of 2 ... I would love to help!
Low back pain in children might me more common than we know, mostly because is very often diagnosed as "growing pains" . There are some factors that you should consider and TELL YOUR PEDIATRICIAN:
1. Age: low back pain in children younger than 4 years old should be closely evaluated
2. Onset: traumatic (falls, slips, even relatively insignificant event), can suggest fracture. Non-traumatic (can start overnight, or develop over time period)
3. Is there fever associated with it? If yes, we might be dealing with some kind of infection such as discitis (disc infection) or other, more systemic (whole body) infections
4. Where is the pain? Local low back pain vs pain radiating to other areas (leg, knee, ....) - this can suggest a nerve compression from a structure in the spine
5. What makes it better/ worse? Any trouble walking and/ or weakness should be closely evaluated.
6. Any numb spots in the leg/ private parts?
7. Trouble going pee or poo?
8. Does it hurt when the child coughs/ sneezes?
Those are just some of the questions I would ask the parent/ child . X-rays are good initial tool, but they only show bony structures (fractures, curvatures of the spine), but not show disc or nerves - MRI, CT scan or bone scan can be requested...
So: here is just partial list of conditions: positional (car seat related), trauma, infection (disc or systemic), neoplastic lesions, allergies, food intolerance, autoimmune disorders, arthritis (juvenile rheumatoid arthritis), developmental disorders (spina bifida, scoliosis), nerve root compression, ....
A good pediatrician should be able to differentially diagnose these and order imaging and bloodwork. No manipulation of the spine should be performed until you figure out the reason.
I may have figured it out! My daughter complained of low back pain when riding in her carseat. Finally, I pulled over while she was complaining. I got out and checked her in the carseat and asked where the pain was. I felt behind the seat in the area directly behind the area she indicated was hurting. I found a really hard piece of plastic just behind the seat cover. The plastice is maybe 2-3 1/2 inches wide and spans the entire width of the carseat. When you thread the seatbelt through the back of the carseat the strap rests just above the hard plastic area (to help you find it). The gap between the hard plastic band and the actual back of the seat is great enough to cause them to slightly arch their backs to avoid the hard plastic. I checked two other seats and found the same problem. I had my older daughter sit in the car seat to confirm and she was able to describe the problem. I purchased a new carseat and checked for this design flaw and found it in about half of the seats I looked at. I finally found one without it and the complaints have stopped. It's not medical it is the seat design!
Yes, it is somewhat comforting to know others are suffering, but not comforting enough to ease my mind when my daughter is screaming in pain throughout the night that her legs and back hurt. This is not just an issue for her of her back in her car seat as many of you have noted she alternately complains of her legs hurting in car seat, after laying down and in her high chair. I recently switched to a good Naturopath who is also western trained and is WONDERFUL with kids. She said that about 90% of the kids she sees with this kind of pain do great when their intake of Calcium/Magnesium is increased. At first she was taking 200 mg Cal to 100 mg of Mag (Cal/Mag) chewable vitamin. It wasn't enough. We now have her on 500/200 Cal/Mag by Thorne and we mix it in with juice so it's a bit like an Emergen-c fizzy drink. If you can get them to drink it or get them to take the chewables that will hopefully work. Continuing on a regmine of Cal/Mag in a lower dose for maintenance may be needed. If your child is lactose intolerant or doesn't get a lot of dairy this could easily be the problem. I will try to post to let you know how this works for my daughter. The Naturopath also has me giving her 4 tablets of bioplasma (Hylands) 3 times a day for a week (once before bed) and decreasing to once a day for two weeks after that.
Hopefully this will help someone.
my 31/2 yr. old daughter has in the last 3 weeks been complaining that her pee is falling. I'm not sure falling to where? I really don't know what she is feeling! She has been potty trained for about 11/2 years, just after she turned 2, but she is now asking to wear a diaper. She is at times inconsolable. She is going to the washroom more often and is now even saying that she needs to pee but doesn't want to pee. We've been to the Dr. for urine tests and a swab for a yeast infection. I'm beside myself and don't know what to do to help her. Has anyone heard of this?
Im not so sure about the car seat design, it has been going on SOOOOO long with my daughter, that now she is big enough to sit in a booster seat w/out the back.... so her butt is ont the seat, but her back is against the real car seat... SHE STILL COMPLAINS!!!!
although, I have been taking her to a chiropractor for 6 months, it has lessened in severity... but it used to get so bad, that she would actually vomit, while complaining!
poor little thing!
u/a, xrays, mri..... all the dr can tell me is "growing pains"
the chiropractor, used a thermal scar on our 1st visit, and detected hot spots, on ALLLL the areas she complains about!
She also had a birtax (maraton) when it all started.
I started complaining apparently at the age of 2 of back pain, but my parents ignored it. The complaints continued through my teens & still they were ignored. At the age of 20 I gave birth to my daughter & within 3 months of her birth the pain was unbearable. My doctor started ordering tests a few months later & within a year I was diagnosed with Severe Spinal Stenosis. This something that affects the elderly as their bones age & most often it's elderly men. Doctors believe that it's something I was probably born with.
I only mention it cuz as I talk to family now they can remember the complaining & many of the things you all have posted. Not to alarm anyone but PLEASE make sure you explore EVERYTHING !!! I know kids can complain when they want attention but I can't help but think IF my family paid more attention I wouldn't be so rough off now. I'm only 28, have had 1 surgery already, 2 more cancelled due to 2 separate pregnancies (pregnant with my 5th child now) , 30+ CAT scans & MRIs, 5+ years on strong pain meds & countless of trips to the hospital in excruciating pain. PLEASE !!!
Wow!...stumbled across this and definitely wanted to post our experiences for your reference. Please know this is probably not relevant in most of your cases (there are many things that can cause back pain). But this is something to think about and address with your pediatirican if your child continues to have back pain issues.
Our daughter is now 7. She started complaining of back pain at age 2, very similar to what's been described above. Pain primarily in low-mid back but sometimes behind knees or hips (in the diaper areas). Pain was primarily while in a resting state, in the morning when waking up or evening while watching tv. The car seat was definitely a time when it hurt. Typically, once she started moving around/playing outdoors as typical todders/children do, the pain would go away. She also had periods of time when the pain would go away completely. Unfortunately, it has always returned. We've been concerned since day 1. Our pediatrician had us see specialists. We had a Lyme test done and other blood-work, all negative. We had X-rays and MRI's. All normal. But pain continued. Another specialist told us it was behavioral, that she just wanted to have her back rubbed. This didn't sit well with us as we knew this was not the case. Then our Pediatrician recommended we see a Pediatric Rheumatologist. He's been fantastic! One simple blood test conducted by the Rheumatologist, coupled with her physical symptoms and he diagnosed her with Undifferentiated Spondylitis. This is a type of arthritis where there's inflammation in the enthesis, where tendons/ligaments attach to bone. The interesting thing about Spondylitis is that all X-Rays and MRI's are normal for an extended period of time (up to 10-years) so it often goes undiagnosed for a period of many years. After this extended period of time, a doctor will begin to see active inflammation & joint abnormalities (on MRI's) and/or bone abnormalities (on X-Rays). They specifically check the Sacroiliac Joint and joints of the spine. When abnormalities occur, the diagnosis then becomes Ankylosing Spondylitis. Age of diagnosis is typically late teens - early 30s but most have been dealing with symptoms for a period of many years prior to diagnosis. Untreated, Ankylosing Spondylitis can continue to progress and cause joint damage. Although our daughter continues to have "flares" that appear to be lasting longer and are more severe, she still has periods of time when she is completely pain free. And even when she is in a flare, she's still very active and is not inhibited in any way physically. Still plays soccer, swims, etc (exercise is one of the most important treatments for Spondylitis). A recent MRI of her SacroIliac and Spine are still normal, which is great. There are many medical & diet treatment options that we have tried and/or considering...but too many for us to get into in this post.
The specific blood test the Rheumatologist ordered and that she tested positive for is the genetic marker HLA-B27. Although most people who are positive for HLA-B27 do not develop Spondylitis.....90%-95% of Spondylitis patients test positive for HLA-B27.
There's a lot more information we can share if you have any specific questions. We wish you all well and hope you child gets better soon!!
I have this problem! Everyone is describing exactly what my 2 1/2 year old daughter is experiencing. I MAY have a solution. After reading all this and checking out car-seat.org, I have started doing some experimenting. Here's what I've realized. This started about the time we started wearing the winter coat. It's bulky and I figured that she was just uncomfortable. We have the Evenflo Symphony car seat, and the harness shoulder straps adjust higher and lower just by pulling. It seems that when she struggles (and I tighten), they tend to come down tighter on her shoulders. Add the bulk of the coat, and she was being pushed down to where she was hunched down in the seat a little. Not a big problem at first, but I can see where the position would lead to discomfort in the lower back after a while because it didn't allow her the room to sit in the position where she could keep her butt back in the seat and her back straight.
I took the car seat out of the car, adjusted the straps up and had her sit. I buckled her in and asked her if her back hurt now and she said no. (I still take her answers with a grain of salt though, she's 2...) Anyway, here's my plan: I'm making a fitted "Bundle Me" type blanket for the car seat so she doesn't have to wear the bulky coat. I'm going to make sure that the shoulder straps are not too low and that she can sit comfortably without hunching.
The next thing is her feet. On car-seat.org I read alot about the foot rest. I will come up with something so that her feet are not dangling which may be causing some strain on her back.
I'm going to do everything I can to try to make her comfortable and see what happens. I'll post my results.
my son is 3yrs and also complains about his back his peepee and he dose get constipated i have to sit and make sure he goes to the restroom. He has been complaining for so long i took him to the Dr. they told me the same thing give him motrin for the pain it has been a little better since they found out he had a nasal infection also. I dont know what to do i feel as if im going bananas every little cry whine i freak out. It feels better to know im not the only parent dealing with this
So after reading everyones posting, in an odd way I feel a little better. My 3 year old has been complaining of back pain in the car since she could talk, was diagnosed with acid reflux for her sleeping issues and the doctor insist that she is not lactose intlerant. At 8 months I completely took her off of breast milk and tried a low lactose formula. This was my second child and she is and has been a very emotional child. As an infant I felt she was never happy and I felt so bad. My niece who is now 8 has suffered from all the same symptons, both hhaving a week immune from the day they were borrn. I started the research and thought maybe celiacs. The dr told me that if we try a glueten free diet at this age we would be teaching her body that it needs to be glueten free. My daughter and niece both have had sleep issues, what was to be believed as dairy sensitivity and have always suffered from horrible back pain. My niece at 8 is still on a laxitive because she has difficulty. Soo no one wants to listen to me there is a bigger issue here. The kidneys is something I never thought of and I will have them checked out.
My daughter is just ove 2.5 yrs and has the same issue - back pain with the Britax marathon. My pediatrician said at this age, kids are very "somatically aware" - their growing pains, and any pains, may be amplified as they learn to run, jump etc. He said it also happens again at age 4 and 7 i believe. If she keeps complaining, though, i will order kidney tests.
I don't know if I feel better or worse from reading all these posts. I didn't expect these results when I just serached for "toddler back pain." My 2 1/2 year old daughter has been complaining about back pain for almost three weeks now. At first it just started out once maybe twice a day, mainly at night or first thing in the morning after she woke up. Then about the second week it started in the middle of the night. She would wake up crying and say "momma, back hurt, ouch, medicine." We recently got over a spell of having strep throat in our household for 2-3 months, so I was worried she was just having problems from all the antibiotics she has been on to try to get rid of it between her and her 9 months old sister. I took her in to the doctor when she had her two week check up to make sure the strep was gone and mentioned to the doctor that she was complaining about her back but she didn't say much about it besides that she maybe just pulled a muscle playing. Well the complaints picked up and got worse. She was complaing at night, first thing in the morning, and all hours of the day. I took her back in last Friday and they did a urine cath on her. Immediate results are nothing was wrong. I am waiting for the doctor to call me back today to let me know if the cultures came up with anything. Over the weekend she has pinpointed the pain mainly to her right side right around teh bottom of her rib cage. I thought at first it might be appendicitis, but after reading about the symptoms online, she doesn's have any of them. She doesn't act like it hurts her when i press on her side. I'm not sure what is going on or what is wrong. I thought maybe we played around a litle rough a couple of weeks ago when we were doing backflips, supported and held on to of course, nothing dangerous, but I would think if she pulled a muscle of something like that then she would be feeling better by now. I'm just worried that there is something going on. I have even considered going to another pediatrician even though she has been with her current one since she was born and she knows everything there is to know about both of my girls, but I feel like she should be looking into it further. We have a Recarro car seat, and she does complain some in the car seat, but I don't think that is the problem. Does anyone else out there have any other solutions? Has anyone found any answers yet besides a parasite or cancer? I just find it odd that SO many other kids are going through the same thing around the same age.
I found this forum a couple of weeks ago and was in the same boat as many of you. Luckily, we found what was wrong with our toddler and he is now on the road to recovery, so I wanted to share our experience on the board. Hopefully it will be helpful to at least one other child out there.
About a month ago my 19 month old woke up and refused to walk. Daycare noticed the same thing. We took him to the pediatrician and they told us it was just tantrums as they didn't find anything wrong. Then he started walking again but preferred to crawl instead. We also noticed he couldn't stand up anymore from a crawling/kneeling position without holding on to something for leverage. Getting back down to a crawling position from standing had similar issues. Another thing we noticed was that he was walking with a little bit of a turned in foot or strange gait and he arched his back while walking and when being picked up sometimes. Waking up in the middle of the night crying and being very cranky and not wanting to walk when waking were other things he was doing that were new/different to him.
We happened to get some video of some of this and took him back to the pediatrician to insist on tests...something was definitely wrong. They did bloodwork but everything looked fine. They sent him for an abdominal scan and that was fine. Next they sent him to see a neurologist which scared the crap out of me, but the neurologist didn't find anything that was of concern to him. X-rays were next and that's when they found it. The ortho that reviewed the x-rays diagnosed my son with 'Discitis', an infection of the discs in the spine between the vertebrae. He was admitted to the hospital the same night and an MRI the following day confirmed the diagnosis. He was in the hospital on an iv drip for antiobiotics for almost a week and we were able to bring him home finally yesterday morning. His pain seems to have gotten worse, but the infection is already coming down with the help of the antibiotics that we're not administering orally at home. The infectious disease dr that is treating him expects a full recovery with no permanent damage but it can take anywhere from 5 days to 8 weeks.
In asking what brought about the discitis, the drs aren't really sure. My son had pneumonia and a viral skin rash in February but the drs seem to think these were not related to the discitis. Another theory is that physical trauma like a fall can lead to a bruising of the spine that can allow the infection to take hold.
I hope you all find out what's ailing your babies and that they all get better soon.
My daughter is almost 2 and is also complaining about back pain on the right side of her back just below her ribs when she lies down at night and while riding in the car. It seems like a mystery. My husband and I have thought that maybe it is her kidney that is bothering her caused by not getting enough to drink.
Your child's case seems the most similar to mine. My 2 1/2 year old daughter woke up not wanting to walk, she would slide off of the couch but struggled to even push herself up. We are going to take her into the doctor today, but I wanted to mention that she also had pneumonia this year.
Thought I'd also add that the chiro said it could be an injury, one that was minor initially, but has become exacerbated over time. Chiro said he sees this several times per year in pre-schoolers, it's not rare (as we've all seen by all these posts). We've cushioned the back of the car seat, added a support at the kitchen table, and for the car seat (just a box to put his feet on). And we are doing the stretching the chiro recommended. Out little guy is complaining MUCH less!
Thanks to all who posted the other diagnosis. It's good for everyone to check out all the possibilities. In our case it's something simple the chiro can fix over time.
We have a Recarro and a Britax Marathon car seat...Both of our boys hate sitting in the car seat but my 2 and 1/2 year old is able to tell me (our other baby is almost 9 months old) that his back hurts while my infant just screams like I am torturing him. The back pain has been increasingly noticeable as my son screams and puts his arm behind him as though he were creating a lumbar support...This has been going on for about a year but more and more consistently and more and more painful by the expressions on his face. I have switched car seats around and still no improvment. Today after his bath I tried to massage his back to get an idea of where the pain is originating from and found that when he faced me and stood up straight, his right shoulder was hanging lower than his left...I have never noticed that before. He did have an injury to his right upper arm around 1 years old when he tripped and fell with his arm in a toy...not sure if there is a connection or if when he does flips etc. he has possibly hurt himself. He has never liked sitting in high chairs or car seats but my little boy is in serious pain. I will post back with what we find. We are calling the doctor first thing tomorrow morning!
My back dr told me to bring my son to him after he was born because of the trauma to the spine while being born with squeezing thru the canal.I don't know if this will help but do not let the "Practicing DR" dismiss you and your child listen to your guts they don't have anything invested in YOUR Child. It would be different if it was their child.
I have read all of the posts about back pain in these toddlers and Im freaking about inside about my 2yr old, he has been complaining about back pain , feet pain, and has a rash on his face and neck. I took him to the dr. today and they wouldnt do anything . No blood work at all, just told me to give him Advil as needed. Im scared because he to complains everytime he is in his carseat, and about 3-5 times a day at home. He wants me to rub it. I wanted to know if any of you have found anything new out.
I suggest you find a new pediatrician. Also since your boy also develops a rash he could be allergic to the material used in the car seat. Have you tried covering the car seat? You might want to find a good allergist immunologist-- preferably from a teaching hospital to see if you can pin point the possible allergy.
I hope helps,
PS There are also some car seats that are not very ergonomic for the child and cause pain.
I have been reading different posts for about 1 1/2 now and yours seemed so eerily similar to our situation with our now 4 year old son. I thought if it were to benefit either of us that maybe we could be in touch, even just thru this posting. We are at the point now of seeing a nuerosurgeon at Duke Univ. He is more 'progressive', so even tho our sons MRI doesn't indicate a tethered cord, his symptoms do. This is what he refers to as an occult tethered cord, we are still watching it but these kids can be "cured" by surgery. Hope you are still around to see this.
I have been reading different posts for about 1 1/2 now and yours seemed so eerily similar to our situation with our now 4 year old son. I thought if it were to benefit either of us that maybe we could be in touch, even just thru this posting. We are at the point now of seeing a nuerosurgeon at Duke Univ. He is more 'progressive', so even tho our sons MRI doesn't indicate a tethered cord, his symptoms do. This is what he refers to as an occult tethered cord, we are still watching it but these kids can be "cured" by surgery. Hope you are still around to see this.
I posted on this forum back in October of 2008. I felt a follow up might help others. My daughter stopped having back pain and then the tummy aches started. Recently we finally discovered my daughter has Celiac Diease. CD is an autoimmune disorder that makes my daughter gluten intolerant. AKA a severe allergy to wheats. The "back aches" in her case were actually tummy troubles. Celiac is a very common, often undiagnosed condition. Most people don't find out they have it until they are adults. If any one has any questions feel free to contact me at ***@****.
I am blown away at this moment. Last Thursday my 2 1/2 year old son woke up at 11:30pm screaming of back pain. He did not sleep the entire night because he was never comfortable. I took him to the doctor Friday and they diagnosed him with muscle spasms. This did not sit well with me and he had an awful weekend and was very much in pain. We were back at the pediatrician on Monday and they ran test from 9am-3:30pm. Ear infection, strep and any back breaks were all negative. We went for a CT scan but he pulled out the IV so we are going this morning for another CT scan with him being put to sleep. He is so pitiful and is in so much pain. He can sit, lay or stand for any period of time.
I am so glad I found this forum because I am so shocked at how many people are having the same issue as we are.
Hi, I was reading all these posts and my daughter is 2 1/2 and also says my back is hot several times a day I dont know what to do anymore, took her to the dr and did x-rays and it was normal, now dr wants an MRI I hope we can find out why this is happening, seems like all the kids are the same age. Please if anyone got diagnostic Post it!
If your child continues to have episodic back pain and/or pain in peripheral areas (particularly the hips, knees or feet).....I recommend your pediatrician do a simple blood test for the HLA-B27 marker. Positive for HLA-B27 coupled with the physical symptoms could indicate an auto-immune arthritis called Spondylitis. Cases are classified as Undifferentiated Spondylitis or Ankylosing Spondylitis based on initial MRI/X-Ray results. My daughter began with pain at 2 and positively diagnosed at 4. She still has flares periodically, but has been doing quite well recently with treatment by her Pediatric Rheumatologist. She is now 8 years old. Feel free to post any questions and I will do my best to respond.
I was reading all of these comments.... My daughter is 3 and has been complainingabout her back hurting as well. Its so strange after reading what you all have on here. She hurts in the car seat mostly and also while laying down. We have had xrays on her back as well as her hips. And everything was negative. She still complains and I have no idea what to do next! I'm thinking of printing these comments and showing them to our pediatrician. I hope we can figure this out.
I am truly speechless on how long this forum has been going on about the same complaints. We are in 2012, sending people out to space, and able to zoom in with Google maps and visit a neighborhood virtually, and yet still no consistent diagnosis for our babies pain! Very sad. My 2 1/2 year daughter has same complaint, but more in her mid back and sometimes of to the side of her rib cage. Not everyday, but sometimes, in car seat and lying down. My family is vegetarian, and at one point was vegan. Times got hard and living a vegan lifestyle can be very costly. I will admit, I started letting my children take in some diary (butter & cheese), and this is now when my 2 year old started complaining. I don't know what the deal is, but I know one thing, I will learn from all you guy's lesson. I choose to not put my child through painful testing, because many of you have unfortunately and still haven't came back with anything conclusive. I will stick with what I know best, I learn from other people's mishap or mistakes. I will definitely remove dairy again from her diet. I will also increase her magnesium and calcium intake with some homeopathic medicine, as another person posted. I will get her a foot rest for car seat, although she doesn't ride in a care often (I am a stay at home mom). Some gentle messaging and helping my baby stretch regularly may even aid her. I will do all of these things, along with some serious prayer, and hope that she will eventually grow out of this.
God Bless all of you.
:) You are one smart, and loving mother! Becoming dairy free was our answer for us, it's been 3 years. It's nice not dealing with any sort of sickness or fevers, and pain. I love watching my kids grow very healthy. I didn't know how sick our family was until we went dairy free. Good luck to you.
I am amazed by the amount of people with this problem. I myself also thought, "A 2 yr old with back problems?" My son didn't have any health issues until he got on milk and regular food at 1. Every since then he is always sick. He was treated with milk allergies and a few others. About 4 months ago he started complaining about his back. He complains all the time, not just in a seat, etc. He screams and cries and when it is hurting he pretty much sleeps all day!
He also has respiratory problems, bowl problems and now that I'm thinking of it hasn't grown too much in the last year (he was such a chubby boy then once he got on food and milk it slowed dramatically and hasn't gained more then 2 lbs in 10 months which I overlooked because my oldest son is tiny!
The back is bad though. His lower back actually swells a little when he complains it's hurting. He runs fevers all the time and they reach 104-105 almost always! Our doctors have began to say it just appears he runs high fevers.
We have finally been tested for new things. We are being sent for gluten test. We are going for xrays and all that soon also. I'm hoping we figure this out.
A note to all: I did a lot of research and gluten intolerance and Celiac are very often misdiagnosed, overlooked, etc. One of the symptoms in children are often lower back pains. I suggest if it continues and nothing seems to help ask your doctor.
Have y'all asked the doctors to check for legg-calve-perthes disease. My child at the age of three started complaining about back back. It would hurt to sit in car sit. If she was very active for the day she would kind of limp. The doctor diagnosed it as Synovitis. Thinking she was just having joint pain after having a virus. He stated it would get better within 4 weeks. Well 6 weeks had went by. She had been very active that day playing on a blow up water slide. That night she couldn't even walk with out holding on to the wall. I took her back to the doctor the next day. He sent her for x-rays. He diagnosed her right on the spot. He said the only reason he knew what is was because he had one patient before to have. He said it is very rare. This disease is where the head of the femur bones blood supply for some reason cuts off making the head of he femur bone die off. If caught around age of 3 it is more likely to heal better. If not caught until later around age 6 you may be looking at surgery. Just have them look into it. And at their age around 3 there may not be much deterioration of the bone yet.
I almost bought a new carseat today even though I can't afford it. Didn't find one and before searching online, found myself here.
It's to the point where I just can't leave the house anymore... My dd will be 2-1/2 in a few days. She's been complaining for a few months specifically of back pains in her carseat, but has been fighting me for years not to get in it (Evenflo something dark purple.) I thought the other day; I can't believe she STILL fights and cries to not get in her carseat when I have been firm and no-nonsense about it for 2 years! This is NOT behavioral. The poor kid is panicked hysterical with pain.
And while the shoulder harness now does not adjust any higher as I feel it should and I instinctively keep trying to get her to push against my hands with her feet so she can adjust her little body, I still don't know if it's the carseat. I cannot believe how many of us are here with kids the same exact age!!!
She also complains of leg pain, though because usually in car I haven't thought to pinpoint and she can't reach her legs while in seat to show me.
She also wakes up scream-whining about her back and asks me to rub it. She has asthma and hacks and whoops at night alot too and I thought maybe from the coughing or... because she falls alot... or growing pains, growing pains, growing pains! -is what I've been thinking when she's not in her carseat and still complaining of leg and back pain. And now that I'm reading these posts I realize the kid very rarely sits down. I thought hyper 2 year old; normal, but when she eats she sits with her feet tucked under -e v e r y t i m e. -Even on the floor/ground.
I will also add calcium/magnesium, make sure to hydrate, cut back on dairy (intimidating life change for me/us), give her a box for her feet, and have her checked for discitis, celiac, and spondylitis so thank you all for your posts.
I'm concerned about something medical, but let me also pose this thought. Maybe for most of us it IS the carseat. They make these carseats to accomodate such a wide range of sizes and multiple stages these day, they can't be ergonomic for newborn AND 30 lb 2 year old can they!? That's a big difference really. Maybe the carseat manufacturers are all using a smaller model child size and by the time our kids are 2, there's just no way the same shape works. I too feel the horizontal plastic "bar" across the midback for my child and I didn't know you weren't supposed to put any cushion or padding back there, so that's what I did, but it doesn't help! Maybe these seats are causing long term damage.
I'm at a loss too really. I'm very glad to be armed with all of the info above for our pedia appt this week. Thank you all for that, and hugs for all the poor babes in pain.
I had to come back to this forum after obsessively reading ever single post for the past 4 months trying to figure out this mystery. My daughter is now 2.5 years old and started complaining in her carseat about 5 months ago. I tried to ignore it at first, thinking that she was just a whiney toddler but noticed that she couldn't even sit comfortably in her high chair, in the stroller, sometimes when she was bending over playing, and even on the couch. She was always wiggling around trying to ease some sort of pain. The carseat was the worst though and she would scream in pain. At night she would compian when I would lie her down in her crib and she would only sleep on her stomach. The pain would wake her from her sleep and she would cry out that her back hurt. It started to really scare me and I spent one sleepless night beside her thinking the very worst. I brought her at 6am the next morning to the children's hosptial emergency so I could hopefully get some answers. They ran 2 blood tests, did a spinal xray, lung xray and urine samples. All came back normal. A couple of months went by of me worrying and avoiding any trips in the car when I started to notice that she would complain more when she was sick. One night when she had a cold virus, she was screaming for a half hour straight that her back hurt and I was again about to head back to the hosptial because I had no idea what was wrong with her. All of sudden she vomited and fell into a deep comfortable sleep. It was then that we realized that it wasn't her back that was the culprit, it was actually her stomach. Obviously the pain was radiating to the back or she has some sort of heartburn that she couldn't describe because 2 weeks after she was put on medication for silent reflux, the syptoms (symptoms) have almost disappeared. She never had reflux as baby, and they are investigating why she is developing it at her age (dairy free diet, possible gluten intolerance) but we are just so relieved to find the answer. Her symptoms have baffled 3 pediatricians and also our family doctor because she has no other obvious symptoms of GER. I really hope this post helps someone out there!
omg if you are still having this same problem PLEASE contact me.. i am going thru the same exact thing with my 3 yr old. i know your post is old but i was looking for answers and yours is the only one i saw where he complains of his back being "hot" my baby has been thru MRI's, bone scans, ct scans,etc. we are at a loss. he has back pain in his car seat and high chair and sometimes complains about his feet hurting. my email is ***@****
i have been trying to find this exact situation! my 3 yr old son complains of back pain and also says his back is "hot".. you are the only other person i have heard of dealing with that same part of it. he has had several mri's, ct scans and a bone scan..all normal. he has seen many diff specialists too.. next we are going to a neurologist... He always first says his back is hot and then comes the pain. he also complains about his feet hurting him too..
I'm not sure if you read my last post (Feb 22nd, 2012) but I forgot to mention that my daughter would say her back was 'cold' when she was complaining. It was obviously a sensation that she couldn't describe becasuse it turned out to be stomach pain radiating to her back and also heartburn. She has GER and is much better now that she is medicated. Good luck!
Hi, i just read your post about your son with back pain and belly aches. My son has been complaining of the same thing. He is a very active child and does not act like he is in pain otherwise. He has been having chronic ear infections and has been on antibiotics so i am concerned for his kidneys. I don't seem to think the doctors are always right and tend to write a lot of things off. So here i am doing my own research. I did not see that you posted an update. what was the outcome of your child? Your case seems to be most similar to mine. Thanks!
She actually was always pointing to her lower back but I started to realize that she just couldn't reach up to where it was actually bothering her... Or maybe she just wasn't able to communicate where the discomfort was coming from.
My 2 1/2 year old just started complaining periodically this weekend that his tummy and back ache. He also had an upset stomach (dad had stomach flu). My son usually complained when on the potty, then said he felt better afterward, so I think he probably had/has a milder stomach flu (he got a flu vaccine, dad did not). I hope that's all it is. No big changes in his diet or injuries, no fever or rash, no problems with sitting in his carseat or high chair...but I have been debating taking him to the pediatrician if his pain does not resolve in a couple of days. I hope all of your babies get better and stop hurting! It could be similar symptoms for different reasons. Chiropractic care and dietary changes can definitely help in a lot of cases. If your pediatrician isn't taking you seriously or doing anything to help find the cause, find a new doctor!
My daughter is now 3 and it all started when she was 14 months crying in the car seat about her back hurting . I've taken her to the dr they did an xray said she seems fine and that it could be constipation , the last 4 months she complains all the time I've brought her back and yet they sayin growing pains exct... She has recently been waking up threw out the night and crys I feel terible as I no iits not normal my other children have never done this it seems all our lill ones are experiencing ther same symptoms anyone have any ideas on what I can do to help get answers and cloe out of pain
See a chiropractor. One that has good experience with children would be best. Also, look for a Gonstead chiropractor in your area. They are far better than your general chiropractor (more schooling and the technique is better).
Did anyone find any conclusive results? My 5 year old has been complaining about the same thing on and off for two years. Switched seats and gave him miralax for supposed constipation...he is scheduled to have MRI because everything else is clear
Did anyone find any conclusive results? My 5 year old has been complaining about the same thing on and off for two years. Switched seats and gave him miralax for supposed constipation...he is scheduled to have MRI because everything else is clear
Discitis - I came across this thread of posts a few months back when I was searching for 'lower back pain toddler". I thought I would let you know what came of my further investigation with doctors in Australia where I live AS I HAVE HAD A RESULT- yay!!
Start- She had a small fall down our concrete back steps (2 steps), got up cried, but seemed fine and walked away (had a chesty cough at the time, but wasn't an infection that I knew of).
My daughter's (1.5 years old) symptom list the followed:
- holding her back when walking along
- reduction in bending over forwards to pick something off the floor
- SCREAMING in pain (usually after sleeping, but not always)
- would suddenly drop to the floor and cry at times
- eventually didn't like walking up/down stairs
- eventually wanted to be carried most of the time
These symptoms all developed over about 3 weeks with the intensity increasing. Eventually not really walking at all and the screaming periods lasting up to 45mins -heartbreaking times......
She had an x-ray which showed nothing. Getting a wee sample didn't happen- this is very difficult to obtain!!
Then she developed a 39 degree Celsius fever and the doctors started to worry as infection was their obvious thought.
She had a bone scan of her spine and it showed up a 'hot spot' in her lumbar. Not great news... as could have been a lot of nasty things.
But... then we had an MRI under general anesthetic and this showed that she had DISCITIS (infection of the disc between two of her lumbar).
This is a good thing compared to what it could have been. It's quite unusual and hard to diagnose in young kids that can't talk yet.
10 days in hospital with IV antibiotics. After 3 days she was really on the mend and walking again!!!! Happy dance + tears from us.
7 weeks of STRONG oral antibiotics at home, then another MRI which showed the disc was breaking down as expected (the two lumbar will fuse- won't cause any long term issues at all).
We've finished the antibiotics now and due to have another routine follow up MRI in another month to check all is A-OK... which it will be as she is already back to her crazy/ beautiful/ mischievous/ independent almost 2 year old self.
Bottom line.... if you think it's something... it may be... KEEP GOING BACK TO DOCTORS UNTIL YOUR HAPPY!
I hope this helps someone...
I thin your issue, samk37 might be a kidney infection. Uva Ursi and Yarrow are all natural remedies for kidney infections. I use them on myself and they work better than the antibiotic. You can order them at http://www.naturessunshine.com/us/shop/
My 2 year old daughter has been complaining about her back hurting for about a month. She had a fecal test and a urine test done both came back fine. The doc thought it was a milk allergy but it wasn't. So I'm in a spot where I just don't know what to do. We are going back to the dic tom. So hopefully we can get somewhere.
I can't believe all of the posts about pain in the back and bellies on toddlers in car seat. My daughter 28 months old started about two weeks ago. My story is exactly the same as all of yours. I have not taken her to the doctor yet bc I was wondering if maybe it's constipation and the car seat brings on the discomfort. She does not have regular bowel movements. Hmmm.... I'll have to keep reading. But it is crazy.
I have an almost 3 year old girl who has been in and out of the hospital due to GI issues; however, around the time she has had a mysterious intestinal flare up she would scream in the carseat about back pain. She was doing much better over the last 3 months until this weekend. She again started screaming in pain while in her carseat. She also will not sit on the couch or dining room chair. Her pain is real. 3 days after she started having issues this weekend, she came down with strep throat. I think the pain has to do with her body being out of balance. The pain is like a "cannery in the mine shaft" letting us know something is wrong. The doctors never really found anything wrong with her gut except she has a diagnosis of Yersina and her appendix was inflamed. We are still trying to find an answer. Luckily, we did not need to go in the car today.
My daughter is 4 I finally got her into a Pediatric Rheumatologist, they believe she has JIA (JRA). The back pain may something more and she may need a MRI with contrast to look morre closely at her back. They will have to put her to sleep, to do the MR,I in order to keep her still. Her Rheumatoligist states children their age should not have back pain even with JRA and should be closely looked into and taken very seriously. Make your Doctor listen and get your child help. God has give you your child and the wisdom to know when somethig is wrong don't let your childs doctor just say it growing pains or noting to worry about. Insist on your child seeing a Pediatric Rheumatologist.
Have you found anything further? Did you go ahead with the MRI? My daughter is going through a similar experience. Back pain for 9 months, just been diagnosed with JIA and I just feel like the back pain has not really been diagnosed. Do you have any other advice?
Hi My son had problems with his bowel and I kept going to the doctors but no one would believe me, I changed Doctors and my son was sent of to the hospital. That doctor just fobbed me off but I got her to book a Ultra sound for him, big turn around and he had to go to another hospital. We have now got the results in, he has Inflammatory bowel disease. This is what I knew as my Mum and I both have it!! He is now on Salofalk and he is a different child. It has taken 3 1/2 years to get this result. My son also has back problem as do I and my mum! Hope this helps!!!
We have a daughter that had all the symptoms that have been mention in the posts (back pain, sleepless, car seat pain, didn't sit very long, etc). We took her to our pediatrician who checked for Leukemia and took ex-rays of the spine. Everything checked out good. We then went to the pediatric orthopedic who examined her and took more ex-rays - again everything good. Then we went to a podiatrist who gave us inserts for flat feet but said they were not such that would cause back pain. Our next stop was a rheumatoid doctor who diagnosed her with Juvenile Arthritis. Ultimately she had arthritis in her knees (which she never complained about), the knees and legs were growing slightly off (due to the arthritis) and causing the back pain. We have been doing treatment for her for about 6 months which has resulted in a huge improvement. The clinic has told me that Juvenile Arthritis (which I had never heard of before) is as common and prevalent as Juvenile Diabetes and it is common for it to be initially diagnosed in the toddler years. I hope this helps - good luck to all.
Take him to an expert and a full body checkup can diagnose the problem may be its not the back pain he is suffering it's may the vain conracting or other gasous problems as well - ask your child if he fall down from anywhere and got hit ? in school
Diagnosis in less than a month:
My three year old twin daughter continuously complained that her lower back hurt, even during the night in her sleep!
After performing an X-ray the results showed everything was normal. However, her pediatrician also found it alarming that she would wake up during the middle of the night with pain. He advised us to see a pediatric orthopedic, so we did. The orthopedic suggested to perform a bone scan and cat scan of her lower back. Toddlers should not be complaining of lower back pain in their sleep. The results were contridicting; orthopedic said one thing and the test technician said something else. So, it was suggested to have a third opinion at the orthopedic center in a well known children's hospital. She was diagnosed with Spondolysis in her L-5. Very rare in children at such a young age, normally it is only diagnosed in teens....especially since most doctors/parents do not take children's back pain as serious. The first time I mentioned it to her pediatrician he assumed she was just mimicking an adult.
my son in 20 months and he has been pushing like he is trying to have a bowl movement then he touches his back like it hurts but he is not constipated. it has only been a week but im going to take him to the drs. I was born with a tumor on my spine and all the drs told me nothing was wrong of course i had a birth mark on my back and my mom was worried about it. she didnt give up and it turned out i had to have surgery at 7 yrs old to remove it. im now 27 and perfectly fine. but now that my son is touching his back and crying sometimes it makes me so nervous. His kidneys were also check when he was first born because he had no cartilage in the top of his ear and his dr said it can be a sign of kidney problems but everything turned out fine.
I read this post about a year ago when I was wondering why my 3 year old was complaining about back and tummy pains. We thought it may be because of needing to have a bowel movement at first; however, it was not always linkable to this. We took him to the doctor who said everything looked normal. After reading through the comments on this post, I saw that some other children with similar complaints had a Britax Marathon car seat. Seemed funny as we don't have a car and don't go anywhere on a regular basis. Only twice a month or so; however, what I read really made me wonder. So, we bought a new carseat prior to a big car trip that we took; we bought a seat that converts from 5-point harness to booster seat. He looks much more comfortable in it as he is upright like his brother. And, since that purchase... no more complaints about tummy and back. Coincidence?...maybe... but, it seems a bit too coincidental for my husband and I. I recommend switching to a seat that doesn't lean back as much and is more upright as soon as you can if your toddler is complaining... I feel so much better now that he is fine again!!
I don't usually post to these types of things; however, I wanted to share my experience on this post.
hi...I am a mother of a 2year old boy and 1 year old daughter...my son has developmental delays with speech and motor skills and is still not walking independently. He is extremely unsteady when he does attempt to walk and can barely take 4 steps without falling down. He is getting speech and pt several times a week since he was 18months. Labor and delivery was long but normal. He had rsv when he was born and hospitalized for two nights and has since had rsv several more times as well as pertussis. We took him to an ENT to rule out fluid imbalances which would explain the delays, an orthopedist and a neurologist who requested an MRI and bloodwork. Everything came back normal. Some speech delays run on my husband's side of the family but nothing major. I was a late walker (17months) We are taking him to another ortho on Monday to hopefully get x-rays of his hips done since the other ortho did not think it necessary.
For the past couple of months whenever he layed on the floor he would put his hands underneath his lower back.I didn't think much of it until he more recently does it whenever he is laying down on any surface. Something that has been more alarming is when he walks with his push toys he will intermittently stop and put his hand on his lower back (either side) and also at times his butt(either cheek). Since his speech is delayed he doesn't say he is in pain but he will at times make noises that indicate he is. He is also more fussy when he is in his carseat (Cosco)He has more tantrums now which I know can be attributed to his delays as well as those infamous terrible twos but I am scared that he is in pain and that is why he is not yet walking on his own. I have read a lot of helpful info in all of the above posts but was also wondering if any of your kids have trouble walking too. We will continue to take him to doctors until there is some diagnosis. I can longer hear "just wait and see" anymore..... God bless (:
This could apply to some or many of the car seat related
complaints. Not sure, but I did lots of research on the
flame retardants in car seats.
Exposure to the flame retardants could cause skin problems
coupled with other issues from exposure. The body must
handle the chemicals through the tissues.
"Diono" is the only car seat that I could find,
that has no flame retardants. Uses fabric that has
natural flame resistance. Infant/Booster seat.
All in one. This eliminates a great amount of exposure,
but check carriage/strollers, highchairs or anything with
foam, and sleepwear. Labels will be on most everything somewhere.
Cover mattresses below, to avoid further exposure while sleeping. European research has claimed it eliminates all SIDS death entirely
when applied. They claim it's due to the chemicals in mattresses of infant cribs, etc. Babies and adult covers below.
other information FYI.
**GMO foods can cause the GI complaints, leading to back, etc
& would not be detectable in tests. Make sure little one's
are not eating any GMO.
I came to this thread when searching toddler back pain. My little girl is two and has held her back from time to time since she started walking, and now is able to say back hurt. She also couldn't hold her weight on one leg a few weeks ago, collapsed to the floor thee times in walking four feet! Scary! So anyway, she has leg involvement that wasn't really mentioned in the rest of the posts, but we got a diagnosis or a start of a diagnosis anyway, so I thought I would share. She was diagnosed hypermobile. (Her joints extend further than they should, the wrong way. Kids used to call it double jointed.) So she will be prone to lots of sprains and strains and such and the looseness of the joints pulls on other muscles for support, including back muscles. Also, someone mentioned putting a box under kids feet in car seats so that wouldn't pull on their back so much, well that sounds like it fits with the hypermobile stuff, so I thought I would post this, for what it's worth and I hope every ones little ones are doing well!!
Children dont make up being in pain, there is a reason for it, whether its kidney issue or back/spine issue, dont brush it off, it could result in worse issues, a disc in the back going for a long period of time being pinched, does not get oxygen, becomes deadened, hard, the spongy ness of it is lost, t here fore bone on bone, which in a child has to be horrendous for life. Search for a good chiropractor, ask around, find one that specializes in children. I went to a few, some werent very good, in fact I would worse, I ended up finding one that was Great, had young children of his own, and adjusted children. Ao pinched nerve is nothing to disregard . Some meds will loosen your muscles up so that the nerve becomes unpinched. I dont know that they would prescribe those meds for young children, but chiropractors give immediate relief. Take care and good luck
Some meds cause constipation. I suggest going to a chiropractor that specializes in children. Meds only mask the pain, they dont fix the problem, pinched nerves will cause life long issues. massages can help also
my 3 year old daughter started complaining that her back hurt for the first time when she had strep throat a month ago. Since then she complains on and off and sometimes wakes up at night holding her back. I took her to ped and had urinalysis done to check for uti (came back clean). She does have a Britax car seat but doesnt usually complain while in it. I am concerned as to why it is bothering her and waking her at night. She has recently been diagnosed with GERD though she never had it as a baby. She took meds for it last night and didn't wake like usual although she did still whimper and moan in her sleep. I am going to look into some of these diagnosis from this page but do find it a little comforting that I am not alone. I am worried and do promise to update if anything is found.
Posting our story...in the hopes of keeping this going so that the more people that find out answers, they will come back to post for those of us who still need help.
My daughter is 2.5 years - has complained about back pain for approx 1 year - and only in the car seat. We have tried multiple car seats, rear and forward facing (ended up switching back to rear facing because it is safer and because her feet won't dangle). Ped checked her for kidney infection and fractured rib, both negative.
When she was 2 she stopped walking for approx 4 days - no weight on the foot which is the same side she complains of back pain (her right side) We had x-rays of the hip (and i think low back) done - they diagnosed transient synovitis.
We have found *some* improvement with a very reclined rear-facing car seat (we use the Diono Radian). But she still mentions it. After the recent holiday and a long car ride, she was screaming. I DO think she has some sort of hip/spine imbalance because when I tighten the car seat straps, one seems much tighter than the other.
Side notes: She is also a tummy sleeper and I wonder if this is hurting her back (I tummy sleep and have low back pain because of it). We also have a long history of autoimmune diseases which is making me want to get her checked for celiac, rheumatoid arthritis, etc
My name is Suresh and I saw your post from Dec 2008 (We have seen similar symptoms. Our daughter, almost three, has complained sporadically of back pain for the last 9 months. Sometimes we can go one or two weeks without a complaint, then she'll say at bedtime or in her carseat that her back hurts and puts her right hand on her mid to lower back. No screaming pain, just the complaint. Urine test normals. X-rays were normal. She otherwise plays normally and falls asleep at night).
Our daughter who is 4 has been showing similar symptoms for the past 6 months or so. Can you please let me know how this issue was solved. We already had 2-3 doctor visits but no solution yet.
PLEASE PEOPLE STOP posting your kids back hurts. It's been posted a 1,000 times already. Please post the SOLUTION since everyone clearly understands the problem. After over an hour reading posts here are the potential diagnoses others have posted:
1) Tethered Spinal Cord
3) Lyme Disease
4) Dairy Allergy
5) Henoch-Schonlein Purpura (HSP)
6) Spina Bifida
8) Celiac Disease
I would Google a few of theses or talk about this list with your DR. I hope this helps!
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