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Getting rid of crows
There are a flock of crows that have starting to live close to us. They are unbelievably noisy especially early in the morning. Is there a way to get them to move to a different location?
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All living things are capable of carrying disease. Look at salmonella in chicken, e coli in beef, all the diseases people carry around with them. I worry less about the birds than I do about the people sneezing and coughing around me.
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I successfully chased away some crows today with a wooden "train whistle". There were more than 20 huge crows sitting in a tree outside my house today. For several hours they were yelling very loudly and making me nuts! I found your tips and thought that by interupting their miserable conversation, they might leave. Every time the crows started talking, I tooted my whistle and when they got quiet I did too. I kept out of their sight and kept messing with them. After 5 minutes they took off with big squawks. A few came back a little later and I gave them more toots every time they tried to talk. They left again and I have had peace for several hours!
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That's very clever. A train whistle isn't a bad sound but it's unusual to the crows. That makes them stop and listen and try to figure it out.
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Absolute Bird Control has several solutions for this problem.  I would first recommend outdoor sound deterrents, such as the Bird Chase Super Sonic, which can be programmed specifically to deter your problem bird.  Also consider the bird spikes and net as well as visual deterrents, such as the Hawk Decoy.  If you would like more information and options visit http://www.absolutebirdcontrol.com
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Totally agree, business ethics is quite important and we shouldn't support someone who copied another's hard work.  So yes the cd is good, buy 'crow be gone'! www.crowbegone.com Great customer service as well.
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I got a pot and an old wooden spoon.. get outdoors and bang them around for about 30 seconds.. Do this each time they come back and in a few days or a week you will no longer be bothered.. cheap. easy. fast
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One thing that worked extremely well was dead crows. who would have thunk that adding crows to the equation would get rid of crows! I purchased a .22 rifle from a local sporting goods store and a large bag of bird feed which i poured on my driveway (don't put it in the grass because you won't be able to clean it up afterward and you will keep attracting the birds) then I just laid and waited with my garage door opened about a foot. sure enough they all came for a feeding frenzy! I killed about 15 crows in no time. be very careful about stray bullets hitting your neighbor's house or car...or your neighbors themselves :) then collect the crow bodies and put them all over your property. the best place is on your roof so you don't attract other animals. the crows see their family member's carcasses and think that the area is unsafe for birds, they get frightened and stay away from your house! I'm not sure if this was necessary but i mutilated the crow bodies to look like a wild animal got to them. i recommend experimenting with this. the idea is to make the crows feel like your house is a place of danger. happy hunting!
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A few problems with that idea:  if you're in the city limits, it's illegal to discharge a firearm for all the reasons you stated above. It's dangerous. Secondly, crows are federally protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act and to harass or harm them is a federal offense. If you have a farm and they're causing crop damage, you may be able to get a special permit to shoot them but you are NOT allowed to shoot them because they bug you.
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I've never tried it, obviously, but from my years of experience working with wildlife, crows included, they're incredibly intelligent birds and aren't easily fooled. I'm not surprised by your experience ADDY. Even something that takes them by surprise will only shoo them for a bit. Then they'll come back but be more cautious and prepared.
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I bought a house on a lake in NY State and found a myriad of crows that cackled incessantly every morning.  Just before I moved  there I read an article in the New York Times Magazilne about crows invading suburban spaces and killing the colorful song birds who live there.  Sure enough, the crows invaded the nests, pierced and ate the eggs and chased the little birds away, if not killilng them.

My neighbor told me that the natural enemy of crows was the owl.  I started to hoot whenever I saw a crow.  One Sunday, I started to 'hoot' in my back yard and suddenly the sky was just black with hundreds of crows who were leavilng my property and the property next to mine.  People watched as these birds rose and flew to the adjacent forest.

Over 14 years, I continued to 'hoot'.  My front stoop was home to house finches, blue birds and lazy sparrows who used the finches nests after the finch fledglings had been launched.  (I leave my natural Christmas wreath on my front door and the birds continued to nest there generation after generation.)

I have just moved to the Carollinas and in my second year of bird feeding and supplying nesting possibilities, crows, grackles and blackbirds have found my feeders.  I am hooting.  The predatory birds do move away and let the song birds have their feed.

You might try 'hooting'.  One day I even had an owl come to call, with Mrs. Owl close behind.  I must be good.
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Thanks for the feedback on your own experience. I wonder why it works for some and not others. Like anything else I suppose, reviews will vary. Thanks for the heads up about the scam site. I wish people could find a better way to use their energy.

And yes, there's always a bit of oddity found on forums. Keeps life interesting.  :-)
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I have crows right above my bedroom making a hell of a racket at 5am every morning.

Because of what is happening in my life at the moment I am fairly depressed and being woken up at 5am is not helping.  I am a nightowl and at 63 am not going to change my routine so I really need help with these crows.
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Try a Gamo or other type of air rifle. not as noisy as a .22 LR.
CB caps for your .22 are also very quiet but only accurate to about 30-40 yards.
gamo Night Stalker is accurate to about 70 yards at 1200 FPS.
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we had a pair of crows dropping large twigs down a chimney in which we never have a fire this went on for about 3 weeks, we had the chimney swept and a crow guard put on the chimney about a week ago but they are now dropping dead grass and leaves down which they can get between the bars, how long before they work out they can't get in to nest
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That's unusual for them to be so persistent. They're smarter than that. You may have to cover the chimney for a few weeks till they find another spot they like better. A screen is fine for keeping birds out but a chimney cap is often better. Not sure how much they cost.
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I have a LOT of crows in my neighborhood and for the most part just live with them.  But two things have changed recently.  I've put down a lot of black garden cloth (covered with LOTS of mulch) to control weeds but the crows are pushing the mulch aside and pulling back the cloth  to get at worms or something underneath.  I've even used the long 10" spikes used for edging walkways etc to hold down the black cloth but they just rip it away from the spikes!!  And I now have a very talkative African Grey parrot who spends a lot of the day mimicking the crows.  God help me!!  Any advice re: preventing the  tearing up the garden cloth?  Maybe some safe chemical that they would not like the smell of?  About the parrot, well ......
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I just moved and am now surrounded by crows cawing through most of the day. I hate these things, though I love all other birds.
It is not true that Crows are protected by law. Most states have a crow hunting season. In Maine, there is a spring season (Feb 1-Mar 31) and a fall season (Aug 1-Sept 30).
Your neighbors make take issue walking around with a slingshot or air gun, but if you can get a couple of buddies and set up your blind at a local farm (farmers are usually more-than happy to oblige), you may shoot enough crows to give your neighbors and yourself peace.
More information at www.crowbusters.com
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Laws may vary from state to state and I know some areas have hunting season. But the areas are limited. People can't just sit on their back porch and fire off guns. And by federal law, crows are indeed protected. There are exceptions and that's important to know where and when crows can be killed. If the crows are bothering you in an area restricted to hunting and it's out of season, people have to learn other ways to deal with it.
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The crow is classified as a predatory bird (WAC 232-12-004). A hunting license and an open season are required to shoot them. Under federal guidelines, individuals may kill crows without a hunting license or permit when they are found committing, or about to commit, depredations on agricultural crops, or when concentrated in such numbers and manner as to constitute a health hazard or other nuisance (16 U.S.C. Sections 703–712). The Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) is located at http://www.gpoaccess.gov/cfr/
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We have a bird bath in the backyard that's is frequently used by a variety of small birds. But recently a crow has moved into the territory and had taken it over. It is constantly bring prices of dead things and washing them in the water. Leaving chunks of meat ant bones floating in it. I would like to redirect this bird elsewhere
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You're right about depredation from large numbers of crows and the ability to lethally decrease their numbers. But most people on this forum are upset about some crows in their neighborhood or back yard. That's a far cry from a farm setting.
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The crows in my neighborhood are newcomers who seem to have pushed other birds out. They kill the other young birds and drop them in my birdbath to snack on at their leisure. Lately they screech at anyone who goes into the garden. So crows are not lovely birds that I admire, they are a pest that has altered the bird population in a negative way as their numbers increase. So I would like them to go away. Any more ideas.?
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Right now the crows may be a bit more aggressive if they have young birds in the nest to feed. Normally they're just cautious and curious birds. Yes, they will take other small birds as food since they're omnivores and eat a bit of everything. That is their normal behavior just as hawks eat bunnies and birds.

For now I don't think the crows will move on as long as they have a nest in the area. Once the young are fledged and flying around, you could try some of the scare tactics that were mentioned. But I doubt if you will be able to keep them away completely. Birds come and go as they wish. All you can do is avoid providing anything they might like such as food (some people leave out cat/dog food for their pets) and water.
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.Our church has reflective glass that the crows are coming to in the early morning and fighting themselves against the glass and making a huge sometimes bloody mess. What can I do short of shooting them to get rid of them .? They have now started pecking the rubber around the glass. Help???? .
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The sun must be hitting the glass just right in the morning so the crows can see their reflection. They're trying to chase away the "intruder" and will fight with the reflection. It's quite typical for this to happen during breeding season. They're want to defend their territory.

There are several things you can do: hang reflective tape/ribbons in front of the glass (on the outside) so it flashes and wiggles in the breeze. That usually works on most birds. Crows are a bit smarter though. Some people put post it notes on the outside to get the same effect. You can take a bar of soap and rub on the glass to blur the image so they're not as likely to react to it. All those fake owls do NOT work so don't waste your money on those. You could go to the hardware store and buy some vinyl screen like they use for window screens and tack it up about an inch away from the outside of the glass. That will allow light into your building but break up the reflection. Worst case scenario: you may have to put something more solid like paper or fabric to block it all together.

Typically, once the birds (crows, robins, jays, whoever) have settled down with their family and raising young ones, they're not so aggressive. I hope this helps.
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I just read your comments about crows I have the exact same problem.
I have had no birds nesting this year because of one big ugly crow which just swoops down and drags them out of my bird bath. He even went after a squirrel in my yard but it got away unlike the birds. Have you been able to sove the problem. I thought of putting out poisoned meat maybe on the roof of my garage and it might come and eat it but it would be out of the from other animals and birds. Have you found a  way  to get rid of them
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I just decreased the population by 14 today. I believe I found the solution to the annoying pests that will finally let me sleep at 5:30 in the morning. My neighbor is a cop and said an air powered pellet gun is NOT a firearm and if the crows are a nuisance there is nothing I could be charged for under state law for killing them. Problem solved. Send the feds after me... I'll be sleeping soundly.
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Because they are like seagulls they tear into the trash, and drop other peoples trash in the yard. I have lived hear for 10 years and have never had anything get into my trash, I put it out in the morning and it is picked up anywhere between 8am and 2 pm.  all of a sudden the last few months the crows tear into every bag, I run out 5-6 times to pick it up and rebag it. I have a private trash collector and you have to have at least 5 bags for pick up so it only goes out once a month. I can't afford 5-10 large trash cans..
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Well sir, what if you were a long term insomnia sufferer with herpes not that the herpes matter so much in this situation, but given the insomnia and the constant need to wake up and itch, would the added addition of barking crows at 5am not drive you to buy a riffle and shoot the ****** not be as tempting option. Anyway
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My roof is flat in the  back with a large avacado tree over it. The crows are ruining the roof and eating the avacados. They are all over the ground...only the seed is left and I am sure all over the roof. They sound like huge animals running on the roof. Bird poop is all over the lemon tree just below the roof too. I would like them gone. I can't climb a ladder myself and so need a simple solution.
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We live on the water in Maine and have a large front yard with several very tall trees. Our front yard attracts flocks of black crows and our dock attracts seagulls, geese and ducks.  While we love birds, at times we feel like we live in an Alfred Hitchcock movie... Further, the poop (on the dock can get pretty gross).  We ave tried everything to no avail. We recently heard about this new product called the Gull Cat from a company called Gulls Gotta Go. Wondering if anyone has tried it and if you've had any luck? It does sound interesting (life like cat with a head and tail that move and bright colored eyes like a cat)...
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I've seen similar products that are supposed to scare pigeons. The old plastic owl set on the roof never worked. So they've come up with artificial items that flutter or bob in the wind. They work for awhile but once the annoying birds realize that the owl/cat/coyote figure never moves from the one spot, they tend to ignore it.  Just observe birds along the side of the road. They learn pretty quickly which area is safe for them compared to where the cars travel.

The cat idea sounds cute and clever but the gulls will soon learn to just hang around a few feet away from it.
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You could have done that in a humane way with a Crow be Gone CD. I got one it works I use it when needed. Better than killing a bird that cleans up after humans.
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Interesting thread here. Yes, crows are highly intelligent. And yes, they can be bothersome. As a bird lover in general, I personally prefer the quiet and dignified grace of birds such as the great blue heron, for example, who choose to live away from us humans. Crows, on the other hand, are in close proximity to us for many reasons. We invited ourselves into "natural" territories and built our homes there. Being scavengers, even in the wild, city crows are now simply "making a living" among us. They need our refuse to supplement their diet. So now we have to deal with noisy neighbors who live in the trees and eat our garbage.

There are some mornings where I am slowly waking up to song birds when, suddenly, the calm is pierced by the raucous chattering of crows. Some people are not bothered by them and some are. I personally find their calls to be repetitive and, yes, extremely annoying.



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Nice name.  :-)  I adore crows with their intelligence and quirky behavior. Do they have lovely voices? No, not at all. But taking the time to watch their behavior makes up for their scratchy voices.

By the way, I see you enjoy Blue Herons. Have you ever heard them "talk?"  LOL They say "GRONK!"  Not very musical. But they are pretty.

Glad you enjoy birds overall and thanks for the input.
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cancer is also a part of nature, should we keep it around too?

crows cause noise pollution, which causes agitation, which causes stress.  stress is harmful.  

the life of a crow is similar to the life of cancer; its presence in an otherwise healthy economy is detrimental to the human body, thus unwanted.  

if we find a way to mute crows or keep them outside a perimeter, then we're in business.  killing crows is primitive and there is room for humane advancements.  

but yes, they are pests; their intelligence does not change this.  
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Hmm, I'd say there are a lot of irritants in life. The key is how we respond to them. If traffic is bad, do we rant and rage and pound the steering wheel or do we sit back and listen to the radio? We can't destroy or get rid of everything in life we don't like so it's better to learn to adapt. I've known people with cancer. Some fall apart, sit back and give up and wait to die. Others are initially upset but then go on to fight and enjoy every moment of life that they have. Again, it's a matter of attitude.

Crows may not have sweet sounding voices. Then again, I think much of today's music sounds just as bad. LOL But I don't get my knickers in a twist when I hear it.
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I've heard that you can loosen animals from glue traps with oil or vaseline.
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If an animal just has a foot stuck in the glue trap, it may work. The birds I've worked with tend to panic and thrash around. The result is they have their chest and one or both wings plus the feet stuck in the trap. The "glue" they use on those traps is so thick and sticky there's no way to gently pull the animal off. It's a hundred times worse than the gooey rubber stuff used to attach plastic cards onto a piece of junk mail. Perhaps you're familiar with that. You can pull it off, roll it up and throw the gooey blob away. The glue trap has the same consistency but you can't get it off so easily.

I have used oil and peanut butter for some small glue spots and it works rather well. Then the bird needs to be washed after that. Overall, it's just a very stressful situation.
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After purchasing the "Crow Be Gone" cd and followed the directions, our crow problem has ended.  It is an excellent product.
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I agree, but I have no problem killing these unnatural, unwanted guests.  They are not native to our area and are destroying the habitat for other native bird species.

My story is this... my next door neighbor died a few years ago of cancer.  While he was getting sicker and sicker he would mostly sleep.  One day I was sitting in my backyard looking up at the forest beyond my fence wondering how I can get rid of these darn crows.  There were dozens that perched there, squaking constantly, annoying neighbors, etc.  There was a family of Hawks living in those trees that had been there for years.  They are gone now.  There are three species of hummingbirds that migrate here to raise their families.  They have stopped coming after the crows kill their babies and destroy their eggs.

As I was sitting there in my backyard thinking about this I heard my neighbor come out to his backyard and scream up at the crows.  He threw a stick toward them but it fell far short of its mark and the crows just continued their howls unabated.  I felt so horrible for my neighbor.  He was dying of cancer and just wanted peace so he could rest.  He'd been a long time resident of our neighborhood of over 60 years and he said there were never crows here until a few years ago.

I felt so bad for him that I went to the local sporting goods store and purchased a high power pellet rifle.  When I got home I went out back and shot two of them right out of the trees.   I would have shot them all to give my neighbor peace, but I didn't have to.  The remaining 20 or so birds left and didn't return for weeks, at which time I shot two more.  All I have to do now is shoot one every month or so and they pretty much stay away from our neighborhood.

By the way, they are such a problem in our city that it is legal to kill them.
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Interesting. I thought crows were pretty wide spread around the world. I'm not familiar with a place where they're not native. But I haven't traveled all over the world either.

The key here is if it's legal to kill them in your city, then what you've done won't cause any legal problems for you. In general we ask people to try non-lethal methods first to discourage problem animals. And still in some cases, you still can't kill them without a proper permit. You have to prove they're either doing significant damage to your crop or causing risk to humans, things like that.

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I'm also wanting my birds to move!!!!! They are nesting in the rafters of our detached garage. The area I live in have a lot of fields around us. These birds are drawing in snakes that wants the birds for lunch. I put a Bird feeder on the outside corner of my garage and a huge snake hung down to the feeder and grabbed a sparrow. I loves to hear these birds sing in the morning but for here in the south if you have bird feeders u have snakes also. No point and trying to feed the birds for the snakes to eat. My garage has had up to as many as 4 snakes in it at a time... Which I'm deathly afraid of. The thing that works is to eat plenty of pie.... Hanging the empty pie tins on the outside of my garage. The wind blows the tins just enough to make a little noise which keeps the birds away and the snakes also.. The shiny tin also glares a brightness when the sun hits it. It will work in the garden as well. Hope this helps if you are having a snake / bird problem...





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Excellent idea. I'd forgotten about the pie pan trick. Some people also like to hang shiny mylar ribbons that flutter a lot and flash (for those that don't like pie   ;-)  ).  
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Let's put the headphones on you and play the sounds of crows squawking loudly at 4 AM every morning for a month or so...then we'll see how chipper and LOL and oh so environmentally conscious you are. Yes. I think you'd be more inclined to be a little grumpy, perhaps less prone to holier than though statements which are almost as irritating as crows at 4AM.
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Let's put the headphones on you and play the sounds of crows squawking at 4 AM every morning for a month or so...then we'll see how chipper and oh so environmentally conscious you are.
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Each person is different. I've worked with injured and orphaned wildlife for over 20 years so I've become more tolerant, more understanding of their behavior. It's just something I've learned. As for noisy crows near me - we have a 10 acre natural space just a 1/2 block from us and each year the crow families gather there in the fall and roost for weeks till they disperse later in early winter. I've also had crows nest in the big fir trees in my yard so I know their early morning routine of babies begging, parents squawking for weeks on end. Not a pretty sound I know. But for me personally, I'd rather hear them than heavy traffic roaring by or police car sirens wailing. City or suburb, there's some trade off.
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i to used the Crow be Gone cd and have no more crowing problems. It's a great product and I'm very thankful for their help;
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Does it make the little birds stay away though? I want to keep the little ones but the crows and black birds I'd like to go away.
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I love birds as well.  However, crows are simply DISGUSTING!! I;ve been doing a lot of research on these birds and they eat baby bunnies, they invade bird's nests and have even killed small helpless animals. Last week they invaded a rabbit nest in my yard.  I was so heartbroken.  I know some say "oh this is nature"  it's all part of the eco system"  Well I say **** nature, nature can sometimes suck.  Would you want to be eaten by a bear, or lion or tiger.  No, I would shoot that ******* animal if my life was in danger.  If I see another crow back here, trust me their days are numbered. I say YOU should leave this thread!!!  AND ALL CROWS SHOULD BECOME EXTINCT!!  thank you and have a wonderful birdie day :)
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