Aa
A
A
Close
Avatar universal
CHF from sub-q fluids?
If a cat is on sub-q fluids for a short time and becomes very lethargic, isn't that a sign of possible CHF? And wouldn't or shouldn't a veterinarian recognize that and stop the fluids and do an x-ray?
Cancel
8 Answers
Page 1 of 1
Avatar universal
More likely you have the cause and effect reversed.  Dehydration can cause lethargy. Lethargy is generally not a symptom of CHF.   CHF is most often the result of cardiomyopathy where the heart is unable to pump enough blood to tissues.  That in turn can cause fluid retention around the heart and lungs.  Excessive or prolonged  sub-q fluids for a cat that already has CHF as a pre-existing condition could worsen the CHF, but it would not cause it.  CHF cannot be diagnosed from an X-ray alone.  The Xray might show fluids around the lungs or heart, but that could be from other causes such as pneumonia.  
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
874521 tn?1424120397
lethargy can be a sign of many illnesses not only CHF. What condition is the Vet now treating with the Sub-q fluids? just dehydration of is there some other problem?

I will send you a link with more info on CHF. I would suggest you talk to your Vet about your concerns. asap.
good luck keep us posted please...

http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_feline_hypertrophic_cardiomyop.html
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
Avatar universal
Let me explain the question again, there seems to be a misunderstanding.

A cat is acting totally fine and is energetic. Then he is put on 150 mL of sub-q fluids twice a week to help flush out bladder stones. After the second week he becomes very lethargic with no interest in playing his favorite game. Is this a sign of CHF caused or worsened by the sub-q fluids?

And if it is a sign of CHF, should a veterinarian realize this and actually do something about it?
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
874521 tn?1424120397
to me it sounds more like a possibility that the bladder stones are  causing a blockage and kitty is in pain....how much urine is he passing? with the increase in fluids he should be passing alot more urine.
Increased fluids will not cause CHF!!.....if CHF already exists than extra fluids will cause more harm...BUT bladder stones are NOT a sign of CHF. why are you thinking this is what your kitty has?
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
506791 tn?1439846583
Anita and I gave our cat Calamity Jane Sub-Q Ringers for over 2 years (50 - 75 ml, 3 - 4 times a week)...helped to over-hydrate her so her elderly kidneys would work ok.

Cammie would perk up after every treatment; took 2 severe strokes to finally slay her (aged 21 years, 4 months).
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
Avatar universal
Again, it is more likely that the bladder stones are causing the lethargy, not the sub-q fluids and not CHF.
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
Avatar universal
Here's my question:

A cat is acting totally fine and is energetic. Then he is put on 150 mL of sub-q fluids twice a week, the reason is irrelevant. After the second week he becomes very lethargic with no interest in playing his favorite game. Is this a sign of CHF worsened by the sub-q fluids?

And if it is a sign of CHF, should a veterinarian realize this and actually do something about it?
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
874521 tn?1424120397
in order for subq fluids to make the CHF worse, the kitty would need to first have CHF...yes it could worsen a pre-existing condition but as we said above it will not cause it!! Too much fluid accumulating around the heart is not good for CHF kitties.
150ml is alot of fluid at one time IMO......
Comment
Cancel
Comment
Avatar universal
Comment
Comment
Submit Comment
Your Answer
Avatar universal
Answer
Know how to answer? Tap here to leave your answer...
Answer
Submit Answer
A
A
Recent Activity
495284 tn?1333897642
Blank
dominosarah Sept 24th, 7:00 p.m.!!! Comment
24 mins ago
961574 tn?1462909130
Blank
mhv commented on KeeLolo's status
1 hr ago
961574 tn?1462909130
Blank
mhv commented on renae176's status
1 hr ago
Top Cats Answerers
874521 tn?1424120397
Blank
opus88
Canada..., SK
587315 tn?1333556383
Blank
zodiacqueen
VA
242912 tn?1402547092
Blank
Jade59
CA
7052683 tn?1392942395
Blank
CML2014
highland beach, FL
506791 tn?1439846583
Blank
Piparskeggr
Saint Mary's County, MD
740516 tn?1360946086
Blank
AppleBr
Brazil
Cats Community Resources
Top Cats Answerers
874521 tn?1424120397
Blank
opus88
Canada..., SK
587315 tn?1333556383
Blank
zodiacqueen
VA
242912 tn?1402547092
Blank
Jade59
CA
7052683 tn?1392942395
Blank
CML2014
highland beach, FL
506791 tn?1439846583
Blank
Piparskeggr
Saint Mary's County, MD
740516 tn?1360946086
Blank
AppleBr
Brazil