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2 year old son's behavior is out of control

I have had trouble with my 2 1/2 year old son since he was about 16 months old.  He has no concept of the results of his actions.  He throws full tantrums 5-7 times a day, curses, screams at me and anyone else in authority.  Not to mention that he is extremely violoent towards me and his 16 months old brother.  I have tried time out, taking away cartoons and toys, everything that I have read and thought I knew how to do.  He does't sleep at night, it takes until 3 or 4 am to get him asleep.  His father and I are considering a therapist, but that seems extreme.
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after reading the first post, some of the symptoms I saw and see in my five year old, mainly the behaviour, gets angry easily, we have just found out she cant have any milk products. After reading information what reactions children can have if they cant tolerate some foods, may be worth looking into.
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im having similar problems with my 2 year old.. he swears constantly if i tell him off it will only trigger him to behave worse, he will throw his toys, empty his toy box, bite the funiture empty food on the floor anything to get in trouble once hes in one of his moods.. even stand there and wet him self and laugh about it. ive tryed everything and nothing works. what can i do?
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There are a couple different articles i know that might be helpful, one is on discipline at each development stage, because being prepared and knowing what you should focus on really helps, and the other is on getting kicked out of preschool because of behavior but it looks like you could find some useful info in that article even tho your child wasn't acting up in a preschool class.

Discipline Article:
http://pre-kteachingtools.com/article2/?cat=6

Behavior Article:
http://pre-kteachingtools.com/article2/?p=51
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that post I just wrote to adamsmom686 was meant for you!
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I didn't bother reading all the posts because I got to the ridiculous argument part, but when I read the initial post I was thinking how some people have been amazed that I let my 2 1/2 yr old son take a nap, even if it doesn't come until 4 or 5 pm.  They can't believe he sleeps through the night.  He goes down for the night at the latest 9:30 pm and usually sleeps until about 7:30 am.  I read something early on in his infancy in one of baby books about an overtired child often has trouble sleeping.  The philosophy was that you let them get the most sleep they can.  I have always followed that.  When he is sleepy or showing signs I make sleep available.  He sleeps wonderful.  He is a very active child though.  Not quite doing the extremes yours is however. He seems more ajusted.  I really think no matter what route you take, you might want to stop waking him from his nap.  Even if for a while his nights and your days are screwed up.  It's worth a shot.  See what some sleep will do.  I mean no sleep would make any of us a little crazy.  I've tried it.  God bless and best wishes!
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I totally understand your pain.  My son turned 2 in October.  He was purposely banging his head on the floor when he didn't get his way.  He would also slap himself and bite himself.  It was just sheer frustration on his part.  Because he was unable to communicate with us verbally, he was frustrated and acting out.  He just started talking about a month ago and his behavior has improved tremendously.  He now has conversations with us and can voice his needs.  My advice to you is to just "hang in there".  As he begins to communicate better, you'll see a change in his behavior.  Good luck and God bless!  Rhonda
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my son turned two in March. He seems to want to hurt himself like throwing himself down on the floor and trying purposely to fall down the stairs. he cries all the time. i try to ignore it but he just keeps on crying. i've spanked him but that doesnt seem to work i've tried time out as well but it's all the same. i dont know what else to do.
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I am experiencing the same behavior from my 2 year old.  He throws tantrums multiple times a day.  He takes a 3 hour nap each day but still doesn't sleep at night.  He won't play with his toys very often but runs about the house tipping things over all day.  He's always looking for something to get in to.  Although, he does have seasonal allergies.  That has me concerned.  He is very intelligent.  While driving to his Grandmothers house 30 minutes away, he can give us directions and tell us where to turn.  It's amazing!!  I have voiced my opinions with his Ped. and she says that everything is normal.  He just never seems happy and I'm also very concerned.  Good luck to you!!
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Isn't the tv in your home?  lol

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I'll just post all my questions,  on the chance that the mom is still reading this thread.  It just seems like almost anything could be going on,  and it's hard to tell from the original post.


1.  Up to 16 months of age,  was your son "normal" - sleeping normal hours,  behaving like he was fairly happy and comfortable,  reaching milestones at appropriate times?  Did this abrupt change occur all at once?

2.  Did he have a head injury,  a major trauma or major infection at 16 months?

3.  Does he have a stable home where he wouldn't be able to witness anyone behaving aggressively?  

His behavior seems so outside of average,  and to change from a child who has typical behaviors to one who exhibits this kind of sleep disturbance and aggressive angry behaviors is not something to ignore - start with the pediatrician and work from there.

Best wishes.
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It was my impression that is was an insuation from a previous post (not yours). But thats the thing about email everyone gets something different cause we dont know the persons tone.  

Of course we have a TV at home, but the things my son says are not from any shows he has watched here. We very much monitor what he watches. Sure he may have picked something up from it anyway. In my situation right now though I suspect not. He is however in preschool and other social settings.

The fact of the matter is that kids will learn things from lots of places. We as parents cant always know where from (unless the child tells us)The only thing that we as parents can do is try to correct the behavior with love and patience.

Besides I dont think that was the mothers main concern or at least what she seemed to be asking for help. It was him not sleeping and temper tantrums.
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The reason I brought up this whole "where does a baby learn to curse" thing isn't to place blame.  It's really to try to get a window on what's going on in the household.

Like,  is he going to a weird daycare where there's some out of control man running around cursing?  Is he going back and forth between two households where he's exposed to very loud verbally aggressive behavior?  Words are words, and that's not the point.  I'm really just trying to ask the kind of questions that "flesh out" the child's environment.

As it is,  this child sounds EXTREMELY out of control,  and it may be he's just parroting what he watches.  Or it may be a very serious problem.

I wish her well,  seems like she's gone from this discussion.
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My son cant even turn on the TV without my spouse or I. He also doesnt know how to use the remote control or the dvd player. So anything he does watch is strictly what we put on.
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I don't see where anyone said the cursing came from home.  Both the previous poster and I were just wondering if he was hearing it somewhere.
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Its not fair to assume that he is learning to curse from home.
My son says alot of things that I know my spouse and I do not say to him. He also does not watch alot of bad things on TV.
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I was just wondering the same thing about the cursing.  I am not saying it is coming from you.  Does he go anywhere else where he would hear such words?  It sounds like he is demonstrating behavior that he is seeing somewhere else.
Definitely watch what foods he is eating.  Red dye had been researched to trigger hyperactivity in some children.  Is he getting a lot of food with nutrients?  I'm not saying you feed him junk.  Looking at the ingredients in most "kid friendly" food you will see a lot of additives and very little nutrition. You could make a journal about his behavior.  Are there times of the day when the behavior is exhibited more than others?
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13167 tn?1327194124
Where does a 2 1/2 year old baby learn to curse?
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I would have a ped specialist evaluate him.  Things like allergies can cause wild behaviour.

Try not to react when he is being so naughty, use a calm voice, gentle touches only.  And most all of all be consistent.  Time out should only be a couple of minutes.  I put my three year old on the bottom step.  Nothing to play with, helps him calm down.

Oh, and one last thing, they don't call it the terrible twos for nothing!!!!
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At this age his nap should last for hours. If you are waking him up and he still isnt sleeping at night it could be related.
Theres a great book called Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Baby.
He talks about how the more sleep kids get, the more they sleep.
I agree with the other persons comments. It could also very well be allergies.
Is he talking? How are his milestones?
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Yes he takes about an hour nap, which I force him to wake up from.  If I would let him sleep, his nap would last for hours.
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I have a 2 year and a 4 year old both boys--they still take naps almost every day-more often than not.  My four year still likes to take a 2 to 3 hour nap and he still sleeps at night.  He usually falls asleep between 9:30 and 10.  They still need naps at this age otherwise they are very unruly at night.  I have only had a few times where my oldest one has ever had a temper tantrum--usually I just let him have it and leave him alone-don't pay attention to the tantrum then they realize that it doesn't get them anywhere.  I try and reward the better behavior-or you could say bribing such as when I have to take both to wal-mart--If you are good then I will get you a bubble gum or a dollar fry.  I feel I can afford the 25 cents for a bubble gum if they listen to me in the store.

But what you are explaining sounds a lot more serious than normal two year old behavior--he may need to be seen by a specialist to rule out any disorders (mental or allergic) I have heard where they are allergic to things that causes violent behavior for it over stimulates the neurons in the brain.  I do know that it is very hard to find allergies in children so young (I had my four year old tested when he was two do to a major hive break out on his face) could not find any alergies--due to the fact that blood testing is not good at that age due to not enouugh build up of antibodies-and most will not take the pin test that young.

One other thing my four year old acts very badly if he is given m&M's.  We have no come to the conclusion that it is the dye in the candies that makes him act up. For if he eats plain chocolate he does not act up.

I hope you find some answers in one of the posts than can help you out.
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Does he take naps?
The sleep thing doesnt sound normal.
If he doesnt take naps that could be one reason for his behavior.
Is he talking?
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