I read some of the other questions, but think this is a
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After an incident at daycare that is still unclear, my son now refuses to poop after being fully potty trained for about 6 months. We know that he went in his pants and some comments were made such as "That's icky. That's gross." He will let a
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Little tummys slip and then hold off--causing him to need multiple underwear changes throughout the day. He has now started going in his sleep. I have watched him and he is truly unconcsious while pooping. He doesn't even wake up when his pants get changed. To make matters worse, he is also refusing to eat anything but bread and butter, apple juice and
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Breast milk jaundice
Lactose intolerance
Nipple discharge - abnormal. We have tried suppositories,
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Laxative gentle suppositories
Laxative overdose, bribery, and nothing seems to be working. Please help. He is not the same child. All of his energy is spent on holding in his bowel movements, so he refuses to play. He only takes part in sedentary activities so he can
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Control rx himself. When I ask him why he won't go, he has told me everything to that his tummy hurts to he is scared.
We have been encouraging him and asking him every day if "today is the day?". He always says yes. Lately, he has begun ignoring us any time we bring it up. I have not made a big deal out of him going in his sleep. I am just happy that he is going at all at this point. What can we do to help get him back on track? Thank you!!!
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(4 yr old with potty issues - refuses to do anything to help!!!)
I was part of this subject/forum from not so long ago and I have a son (5 1/2 yrs.old) who is still battling this most frustrating issue.
You may have read it already, but just in case you haven't I highly recommend you take a look at many of the comments. You might find many others going through very similar situtations as you! Good luck!
I wanted to post what the doctor told us for anyone else that may be going through this. The enema wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. He handled it very well. And it was all worth it to have him back to normal again.
Thanks to everyone for their comments and suggestions.
The solution is just distilled water ( 2 teaspoons of table salt to 1 quart of warm distilled water ) Should be held for about 5 minutes to be real effective.
The enema is effective and instant. You can make up the solution at home. 9 two twaspoons of table salt to 1 quart warkm distilled water. I found no problem with giving this enema at age 5. This is just my opinion and something that has worked well for us.
You dont say how old your son is ?
I have read in the messages that some children have soiled pants all day long. That is because your "vault" gets so full that their "butt hole" spontaneously opens up and poops. My son went through that phase for awhile. Now I see NOTHING at all until I give him a suppository. Every thing I buy for my household is FULL of fiber. There is a cereal that I recommend. It's called Kashi. They have granola/cereal bars & cereal. They are great. My son ate them for a little but refuses now to eat them. To figure out how much fiber you child needs daily- get your childs age and add 5 to it.My son is 3 + 5=8 grams of fiber. That is the number of grams of fiber he or she should have PER day. I have tried everything under the sun to get my son to poop and nothing has worked. He is on kristalose right now. That does nothing. He is still able to hold everything in. When he was on Miralax, he whole personality changed. He was fatigued and tired and didn't want to eat and not talkative. As soon as I took him off the miralax, my son came back to life..... but still didn't poop. If any one has any suggestions for me, please email me.
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Can you tell me what fiber supplement company makes a chocolate fravored fiber powder??? My son would love that.
Please let me know. Thanks!
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So his doctor said he has bowel blockage and prescribed a daily laxative called Polyethylene Glycol (generic for Miralax) and it is a powdered laxative that I give him once a day, 1 tbsp, in a cup of juice. I have cut back his dairy intake and this is gross, but his b.m's are the consistency of applesauce now.
He still REFUSES to poop on the potty. We are going back to the doctor and are thinking of going to a therapist because he has himself convinced that he cannot and will not poop on the potty. Oh, by the way- he is four years old (July 16) I feel like a failure right now with him!
From experience, I know that there have been several factors for my kids in becoming regular. The primary issue is the pain from large BM's...which leads to a fear of pooping...which leads to holding...which leads to so much family stress...which leads to a power stand off. Your child will win this one...they can hold and hold and hold. (Isn't that the strongest muscle in the body?)
What worked for us...and I am hoping will work for my little girl is making certain she takes her daily dosage of Miralax so that her stools will not become impacted and they will stay soft and easy to pass when she decides it's time. We also have given enemas to our kids if they reach 5 days of holding. And the other big thing...and this is where our family needs to redirect our energy...is to stop being so stressed about it. She knows we are all anxious about her holding. She needs for me to just tell her it's up to her to listen to her body and help her body to push out her poop when she is feeling pain in her tummy. And, things have been crazy here with my other two kids and our schedule...so I think we all need to just slow down, breathe, and focus on some fun activities rather than the negative. And finally, this afternoon, I am going to get some little rewards as incentives. If I get even 5 I'd be thrilled to give them out in the next few weeks!
I hope this is helpful for someone. It will get better. You are not a failure...although I understand your feelings. I must say, this is helpful for me to remember the struggle and the pathway out of it.
After trying bribery, sticker charts, incentive toys, ignoring the problem, even trying to get him to poop in a pull-up (nothing has worked) I have a new idea. I have come to the conclusion that the bathroom is just not a fun place to be right now. So I have ordered a hand held game for him to play ONLY while he's sitting on the potty. I don't know if it will work - but it seems like a good idea. I'll let you know how it goes.
i do think it very well may be psychological due to something that i am unaware of at the daycare she used to be in. but i am worried that this is something more, like i am hoping she wasn;t abused or something but i have no way of finding out, she is 3 and 1/2 and it's been so long ago we moved her that i am thinking if the gi doctor can't find anything i am hoping a psycholigist might help.
any comments would be nice.
I have also been giving him the Oil every night in his drink at dinnertime. Even with the laxitive - he just holds it more - more times a day and spends more time concentrating on holding it. Yesterday he called me a 'bad woman for giving him that medicine'. It was just awful....I'm at my whit's end with all of this - HELP!
Help!
We are giving him fiber and also started to take it easy so we don’t put too much pressure on him. What we recently discovered and what works 100% is tea called Smooth Move from Traditional Medicinals. It’s enough to give him few sips (about 4 tbl. spoons I guess) and 12-18 hours later he goes. The tea is Organic, 100% natural.
I would definatly talk to the mother regarding this issue. You see by all of our postings that until we find this website, we all feel alone and very frustrated. If you let her know that there is a name for this and that she isn't alone, she may be able to cope a bit better and my read some ideas that could be helpful in these postings.
I BELIEVE THE KEY IS TO FIND THE RIGHT FIBER SUPPLEMENT (for my son it is 1/2 t. benefiber 1x/day in his juice) TO KEEP THE STOOL SOFT AND YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK THEM TO SIT ON THE POTTY AT LEAST 1X DAY FOR 5-10 MIN.
***THESE CHILDREN DO NOT FEEL THE SENSATION OF HAVING TO POOP.
***THEIR COLONS ARE SO LARGE & FULL OF STOOL AND IT LEAKS OUT.
***THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE SOILED UNDERWEAR SO MANY TIMES A DAY.
***EVENTUALLY THE COLON WILL SHRINK BACK DOWN AND THEY WILL
REGAIN THE SENSATION.
***ACCORDING TO MY SON'S GASTROENTEROLOGIST THIS PROCESS CAN
TAKE UP TO A YEAR FOR THEM TO REGAIN SENSATION.
***THAT IS WHY WE MUST BE PATIENT - THIS IS NOT THEIR FAULT!
OH, THIS IS CALLED "ENCOPRESIS".
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www.aboutencompresis.com
They have a great forum going with so much advise. It's been extremely helpful to me...
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