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4 year old still peeing in his pants

How do I break my 4 year old from peeing in his pants and peeing in his bed at night? He is potty trained and knows to go to the toilet when he has to use the bathroom and goes sometimes. He will go a week or so without peeing on his self then do a complete 360 and pee on his self every night and a few times during the day! I have tried several different things such as taking away favorite toys or awarding him if he does good> But nothing seems to work!! Please if any solutions HELP!!!!
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my son is 5 years old going on 6 years old he pees him self everyday for 2 weeks , then it will stop for a few days and he is back at it agin you ask him why he didn't use the potty " I didn't feel like using it " or because I wanted to pee my self " we had him checked for medical problems nothing is wrong with him we have tried everything . there are times I will take him to the bath room and he will pinch his stuff them like 5 to 10 min later he pees him self when you ask did you pee your self he will tell me know but you can see and smell it on him he has gone so far as he peed on him little sister because he got mad . . . im am loosing my mind I have a 2 year old daughter that is fully potty trained . im running out of ideas to do he has gone to the extreme he will pull his stuff out and pee all over his room . he will just stand there and pee him self all the time I cut water off past 6:00pm seems not to be helping because that brought on drinking out the toilet at night or dish water . . . any moms have a clue I have got him in to a therapist but nothing is working . im thinking laziness but im not sure PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1. we tried the taking to the potty
2.taking away toys
3.rewarding him and praising him  
4.making him clean up him self and wear he peed
5. putting him back I n pull ups whent threw 10 a day
6.letting him pick a place to go if he has no accidents
and he does not wet him self at night as much its m ore in the morning and during the day time .
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Thank you for a possible solution. There has to be some reasoning other than "life changes" for all these children, mine included. My pediatrician even insinuated my 3/4 year old did not like staying at home with me which is totally absurd. Still I'm not sure how food allergy would explain the regression....as my child has been potty trained since two and still eats the same foods. BUT I'm willing to try this and it would be better for her health and our family's health anyway. And it might just work. Certainly nothing else has.
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Thanks for your comments i know it was back in 2010 but i took most of one  afternoon last week  to read this list of comments. i am a single mother of a 6 year old boy. he was totally toilet trained by 2 poo and pee. even at night.

last year just after his fifth birthday i went to collect him from school one afternoon and he had a small wet patch on the front of his jeans, i questioned him and he replied he spilled his drink.   then on the walk home (15 min walk) i noticed him grab his willy a couple of times. once we were home he watched TV for a while before tea. when i called him for his tea the wet patch was still there but a little bigger. i said to him about the wet patch, i said i thought you said you spilt your drink?. he just said yeh and sat down for his meal. he kept grabbing his willy during the meal, i thought he will get up and go soon. but he did not by the time he had finished his meal he was quite wet but still holding his willy. as soon as i had cleared the table i went into the lounge to him and he was sat on the floor watching TV constantly holding his willy. i asked if he needed to go somewhere. he said no i am busy here so i thought leave him to it if he wants to be so silly. it went on for another 20 minutes then he jumped up paced up and down then said i need to pee. he ran to the bathroom but he left a trail of pee as he went.  i went to help him change and clean up. he was a little upset at this point.

that was the first time of many wettings at school and at home, most nights he would either wet his pants walking home, i repeatedly asked him go to the bathroom before we leave school. one afternoon i asked him before he put his coat on have you been to the bathroom, he nodded. he wet again when we got home. after a few months i took him to doctor for tests. all came back fine. after weeks of testing the only thing the doctor could suggest was he will grow out of it soon.    it got worse not better i was having to pack him of to school with 2 changes of clothes.   at the weekends if he went to friends houses to play there would be numerous pee stains on his jeans where he had wet his pants and it had dried in the sun. and he would more than likely be wet or needing to pee.  the strange thing was he does not wet the bed.  After reading Motorways Post and another regarding speedos. at first i thought it could not work. last friday i went to school to see his teacher again. i asked her about swimming. she said OH no problem he is like a fish the best in the class.   i said about what i had read she too said it was most likely fantasy..  but she did say the day they went swimming he would not wet his pants before they went. we both stopped talking and i said well he always puts his speedos on at home to save time.  so that night when we got home i washed his pee stained jeans, gave him his speedos and just said there was no clean boxers. he did not question this he put clean jeans on and went to friends to play. he was dry and no stains when he got home an hour later. the following morning he looked at me odly as if to say where is my clean underwear. i just are those dry. he opened the bed and showed me there was no stain either so i gave him jeans and we went out shopping. we were out all morning and he was dry all morning. as soon as we got home he went to pee in the bathroom.  in the afternoon i took him swimming to see just how good he was, and i was shocked he did swim as well as i do. after swimming we showered and went to change. he asked if he could stay in his speedos if he dried them on his towel. i sat with him for a while talking he was begging me. i must admit the boxers i had taken for him to change into did smell a bit even though they had been washed the pee smell was there. i said well just this time, i changed he got toweld off and pulled his cut off jeans on. he does normally stay in his speedos when we go to the beach so he is quite used to toweling them dry. in the car on the way home we were talking and i said i will have to go get him another pair of speedos tomorrowm he was excited and asked if he could choose.  the following day he wore the same speedos all day and stayed dry.  that was sunday we went shopping for speedos he spotted a nice blue pair with white sides. they had them in his size, so they came home with us.  as we drove home i said they are for weekend and the ones you have on for school days.. when we got home he changed into his new speedos and he wore those for the afternoon whilst i washed the old ones for school monday.  now Thursday he has worn the speedos  4 days straight without wetting them. today was school swim day last night he begged me to let him leave them on after swimming like we had done last weekend. reluctantly i agreed and wrote a not to his teacher to that effect. after school this afternoon i spoke with his teacher and she was amazed at a weeks progress. she was fine with him not getting changed after swimming he comment was something has changed his habits so she did nto question it.  i know it maybe too soon to say but it does look like a change of underwear has helped and maybe it it just inthe mind. that if he stays dry in the speedos he may get to go swimming i hae promised him 2 nights every week we will swim together. so we will see what happens ofer the coming weeks
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thank you so much this helps in a big way , I felt bad I was taken away toys and then trys candy and then ya nothing was working , iam still in the same boat but reading what you had to say feels like the right thing to do . my son also tells me he likes being a baby and I let him crawl around with his baby bro and talk to his baby bro like that so he has fun ;) but he poops on potty just pees his pants all the time now evern though he knows to go potty my son gets playing or watching his fav show and there it go also he get mad when I say go to the potty but iam not mean about it . I tred truning the tv off and I have asked him why he pees his under wear he don't understand the whys yet ? so he couldn't tell me so sad and hard when you just want your little one to be proud  to pee in the potty and not his bum but I guess ill just keep on top of it.
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I am a single father i have 1 son he is just turned 9, i read Motorway's comments and thought this would not work... but i was wrong.

back in February we had a family holiday booked for 2 weeks in Egypt, for months previous to this our son had been wetting the bed about twice a week. daytime accidents had increased from once a month to about twice a week. our main worry was 2 weeks before the holiday we had a long car trip to make. he was Ok on the way there but at night on the return he compleatly soaked his jeans and the car seat, he said he was asleep i am not so sure.

the flight to Egypt was 6 hours and both of us were worried he would wet on the plane and embarrass us all. i showed the comments Motorway had made to the wife and she just dismissed them as rubbish. i said i think we should try something and this was as good an idea as any other we had tried.

the weekend before the holiday i went into my sons room on the saturday morning he had wet the bed and needed help changing the sheets. i had bought him 2 new pairs of speedos for the holiday a green pair and an orange pair. i gave him the green pair to put on and explained we were going on a cycling day out to the beach it was about a 2 hour ride he was quite exited firstly about wearing his new speedos and secondly going to the beach.  it was a sunny day but not all that warm 15c if i remember, although it did get to 18c in the middle of the day. we did not pack any spare clothes on purpose we just took lunch and a beach towel. he was dry all day apart from going swimming. cycled home and still dry. he was very tired when we got home and went to bed straight away.  the following morning i went in to wake him he was awake sitting on the bed watching TV. he had slept in his new speedos and i could hardly beleive the bed was dry.

over the next week he wore the speedos one day and boxers the next. he wet the boxers but never the speedos.

i said to the wife the night before the Egypt trip i will  give him the speedos to travel in and just hope last week was not a fluke.

we traveled on coach to the airport then the flight and a coach from the airport to the hotel, he was dry all the time. during the 14 days we were there he wore his speedos one pair during the day for swimming, tanning andjust walking about the resort. each morning when he got up we got him to shower and put the other pair of speedos on. just to be sure he was clean.

so 14 days, no daytime accidents and NO wet bed. i know it can only be in his head and that speedos can have no control over bodily function. but for us it has solved a problem

since then we have allowed our son to carry on wearing the speedos and 4 months on he has had NO daytime accidents and NOT wet the bed.  only last week he told me he prefers the speedos to his old underwear he told me he swims at school during lunchtimes most days so i said to him we would get another pair so he only wears the same pair 2 days and we can wash them for him.
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Your comment was very insightful.   Thank you for reminding us to take a deep breath and love our kids just the way they are!  
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I can't believe the amount of people going through this with their kids!! I thought was just me! My 4yr old is potty trained from Dec 2011 but still has accidents in bouts of weeks sometimes 3 or 4 times a day, and lately seems to be getting worse. I am at my wits end and although I am reluctant to admit it I find it very hard to keep my temper sometimes!! Even though I know better. And night time is a no go altogether, I have tried but to no avail, her pull ups are always full and she doesn't get loads of fluids after 6pm??  I have tried everything from ignoring it, to rewards & bribes!! Sounds to be some valid posts here with good points, thanks good to know we not alone
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Thank you for posting this. I will give it a try.
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"I am a mother of 4 and only one of my children had an accident once when she was 2 and 1/2...." bla bla bla... We too talk to our children and use "common sense" in raising them...
Use little understanding and empathy in your posts or don't post a all!!!
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After being one of the frustrated parents dealing with this same issue, I stumbled upon this feed and all the comments. The thing that I took away was, clearly our kids have not mastered bladder control even if we thought that they had. I went back to taking him to the bathroom every 3 hours just as if he were potty training again. It seems to have worked. I know it may be unreasonable for some parents as they work or kids are at school. But, I stay at home and have been able to make a schedule. My son has never had an issue at school or at night. Just with control and getting to the bathroom in time if he goes for longer than 3 hours. I feel like it may help to train his bladder muscles. We've been angry, punished, rewarded, and ignored. This is the first thing to keep the sanity here. Hope my experience can help another parent. Good Luck
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hi i have the same problem with my 4 year old that turning 5 year old in 2 month he can got 2 weeks without peeing himself then he turn back to his old routine and keep peeing himself and i try everything try staying calm me and my new bf try talking with him he tell us lies everytime like my old daddy make me do it which he like 8 hrs away , or my kid brother is making me nervous, i dont want to, im sleeping when he up every lie u can think he gave us also try discpline that doesnt work he think it fun, made him wash clothes that didnt work, try sticker and rewards and that dont work, took toy away because said he was to busy playing with the toy that why he peeing himself so there no more toy here anymore ,ignoring the fact desnt help get very frustating because we are training the youngest that 2 year old which was working well to till he kept seeing the oldest peeing himself so now he doe it all the time he doesnt want to get train anymore i know it stress related becasuse of the change in my kids life a new daddy, doesnt get to see the other one or talk to him because the other one wont talk to them, and the oldest keeps blaming me for his daddy leaving me but it not my fault and he scared that his real daddy will come get him in the middle of the night so i let it go for night because yes that is scary but there no reason for day time either it up to a point that my bf cant take it anymore he very stress out and frustated but the kids listen more to him then me though i dont know why any other suggestion or input for me to try email me proulx_francine2003***@****
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My little girl is 5 and recently had surgery for deflux which is bladder reflux.  She hd e surgery 6 months ago and still has uti's.  She also wets her pants if we can not get her to the restroom rite away.  She wets the bed at night and when she has to pee, it is right away. She is on medication for this but it hasnt helped her at all, just gives her nightmares.  I believe as a mother all we can do is wait it out and not get angery when they have these accidents.
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as if you are exactly describing my daughter.. we really want to understand her personality so we can figure out how to help her and deal with her!!
she also ***** her thumb and its the same suffering dealing with that, too.
praising did not work, ignoring did not work, and punishment did not work.... what would we do next??!!
When I first started potty training her, I downloaded an app that reminds her to go potty and give her a sticker each time she goes.. and after she collects a number of stickers she gets a game.. I'm thinking of downloading it again, and will go from there.
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Like many others have said, I cant' believe how many people are going through this.  It really does give me a small sense of relief because sometimes you start to lose hope or you lose faith in your ability to parent.  It's extra hard in a split family situation, mom has 4 yr boy 30-50% of the time (some time at granny's) and he's with myself and dad the other 50% of the time with alternating weekends.  He was using the potty with no problems at 3 and up until recently after turning 4 he's having accidents during the day sometimes and now it's daily dribbles.  Dad and I have tried most of the approaches suggested but the mom doesn't do the same things if anything, she actually puts him in pull-ups at night.  Recently the son has been having strong anxiety about always checking for dribbles and worrying about getting in trouble at dads.  Trouble as in he doesn't get to wear his super hero costume to play in or wear it to bed.  He's still there enjoying other things and he never expresses fear or long term unhappiness while with us.  Yet while with mom he has lots of anxiety attacks and is always checking and worrying about the dribbles and now he's expressing he doesn't want to go to dads because he gets in trouble there.  So the mom has actually asked...well told us that we need to tell him that accidents are OK so that he will stop worrying about it.  We just don't feel that this is the best solution.  And isn't the 4yr old telling her what to do now?  I agree with ignoreing it to an extent but in our scenario the child is constantly wanting to talk about it and make sure dad is happy and of course that makes dad feel like he's being too hard on him for calmly telling him that these types of accidents aren't OK, he'a big boy now and wants to be recognized as that so we remind him part of being a big boy is using the toilet.  They've been split since the son was born and dad has always given his son 100% of his attention, play together, watch cartoons together, colour, play on the leap pad...its very frustrating to me because when we do have him at our place I'm the only adult doing the adult things around the house, the child actually refuses to play by himself, and usually wins that battle as well.  I sometimes wonder if this has anything to do with it??  I'm finding now though, after reading so many posts it seems to be just a thing that happens to most kids.  Now we just need to try the next thing, see if it works and if it doesn't you move onto another thing to try.  One question though, how do you ignore something like that without making the child feel or see that, "oh well it's OK, nothing happens, I just change my clothes"  won't that make the bad bevahviour continue??
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Thank you so much for the advice...so far this seems the most beneficial. I started potty training my lil girl right after she turned 2. Se is almost 3 now and though I feel like she understands about going to the potty, she will wet her underwear just enough to have to change them. And I, like every other parent, has tried all the other "tricks" and nothing has worked. I definitely think I started trying to train her too early. How long did you set the timer for?
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Night time wetting is actually pretty common for children until age 8 or 9!  Some kids simply do not get the signal to go strong enough to wake them them out of a deep sleep.  They shouldn't be shamed of punished for this.  

I do think the method of waking older kids to go at say around 1 am is a good idea (kids that are 8,9, or older) so that their internal clock may begin to wake them and they will perhaps catch the pee and hold it until morning.  Limiting drinks is also a timeless strategy.  Keep them well hydrated all day and they do not need to drink as much at night.  

It's hard.  No kid really Wants to pee their bed.  Handling it with empathy and caring really helps.  good luck
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i am sorry, but i do not agree with your methods!
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i say your post before we went to the canaries for a holiday regarding the wearing of speedos. thought it was a load of rubbish. but my 8 year old son had started having a few wetting the bed and homself accidents he would com in from play hours after wetting and get changed. we did not want this on the holiday and worst of  all not on the flight 5 hours!!. so i gave him a new pair of speedos for the holiday and he put them on to travel in. i told him he could go to the pool when we got there without waiting to unpack. instant result. he arrived at the hotel dry and eh went off to the pool. i said to the wife so far so good. we joined him in the pool an hour later and we spent a couple of hours there. we returned to the room and he was dry from the pool so i told him he could leave the speedos on under his jeans to to to tea. later we returned to our room and i had discussed bedwetting with the wife. we had agreed to try letting him sleep in the speedos. the first night he was dry. so we did the same the following day making sure he showered at the pool before returning to the room each night. we had 14 days of no accidents and NO bedwetting. once we returned he wore briefs for a day and came home he had peed in them whilst playing and let them dry and he wet the ed most nights that week. so it must be in the mind but we let him go back to the speedos and he has been dry since day and night it has been 2 months since our holiday. so we will be staying with the speedos for now he is happy and we are too. he even said it is better at school swim time he does not cange after swim just dried his speedos with his towel and gets dressed. he says some of his friends now do the same and they used to wet the bed too.
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i know its pointless to post this because there is obviously no cure for this lol, but i do got to tell my story just to vent to someone. my daughter is now 4yrs old about to be 5 and i dont know what to do anymore. i believe she has ADHD because her teachers do tell me she is REALLY hyperactive and it is in her dads blood. i dont know if that has anything to do with the peeing in her pants issue but to be honest ever since ive started potty training her at age 2 shes never really been a "pro" at it. she started out peeing when i would tell her to and use pull ups at night but she has always had those occasional accidents. but as time went on i did bring a new guy into her life and had a new baby and i dont know if she is jealous because i am so busy taking care of the baby and cooking and cleaning for my husband before he gets home from work and just does it to get attention. i still give her a great amount of attention just most of the time its negative attention because she is always doing something bad. she constantly pees on herself during the day and at night. i find clothes in her closet and under her bed. she obviously knows its a bad thing or else she wouldnt be hiding clothes. but i try so hard to reward her when she does good or talk to her when she does bad, ive even tried the ignoring it thing and trust me that does not help. that just gives them the idea that its no big deal and they can do it without discipline, but to get to the point i had a stupid idea one day and she peed on herself right in front of me and laughed about it like it was a joke, so with me being sooooooo frustrated and angry i told her to get in the shower and instead of the water being warm it was mildly cold (not freezing) but it was cold enought for her, she was crying saying she didnt like the cold shower and she will not pee in her pants again, it was about 5 mins in and i took her out the shower and sat and explained that the next time she pees in her pants the water will get colder, that worked for about a month or so then one day she went with her dad for a day and him being lazy puts her in a pull up and messes her up. she comes home and she starts peeing in her pants again, i just dont know why!!!! she does not poop on herself thank god! she does that perfectly. but she constantly peeing on herself. i really liked reading everyones comments and replies but i would love to read one directly to me and my problem and what i should try. thnks :)
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We have 4yr old also wetting himself in day. He often always had small wet patches and every now and then blips, but now just wetting himself more and more. Coud you let me know about the urologist's scheduled wee programme as rings true to us your situation. Thanks
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Hi
I just read your blog from 2009 about trying to get your child to not pee in their pants, I'm having this problem with my son who is 3 and a half.  I just wondered if the 'scheduled' pee times worked, if so how long to you leave it between pees!
Appreciate any feedback!
Thanks
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I have a 4 1/2 yr old who was fully potty trained for a couple years now and last few months she has been peeing herself and or her bed. she has peed herself at random times during the day. she will change out of her clothes and not say anything about it. She never says a thing about peeing herself until i or her daddy ask her if she peed herself and then she will start crying and say yes. i believe the crying is due to cause she believes she will get in less trouble. I limit her juices to before 4pm and water to stop at 6pm which is 2 hours before her bed. she goes potty right before bed. and yet she still has issues with peeing the bed. I have tried rewarding her and disciplining her, taking away toys, tv use etc.Have tried calmly talking to her about it and just ignoring it.Nothing seems to work. i need suggestions, don't know what else to do really. feel like i have tried everything.
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Well I'm going to have to try what I just read. I know me getting upset just belittles him so I don't want to do that. He is potty trained but yea it seems like he's going backwards. I think this will realy help!
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I had to add my story.  My boy is now 5 and still pees his pants.  He wears a pull up at night.  He doesn't pee his pants when he's at school.  He seems to do it just prior to a poop.  It smells like tar and sometimes it stinks up the whole place.  He'll do it right after I finished doing the laundry which drives me nuts.  I've tried to take away privileges ( no video games etc...)  It doesn't work.  I am at my wits end. He doesn't do it when we visit relatives, but I am embarrassed that I have to put a pull up on him at this age.  I had no problems with my other children all fully potty trained by 2.5.   He does have a more stubborn streak then they do in his personality.  He also is reading, so I know he is a pretty bright child.  Any ideas???
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