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My son was on adderall and it made him cry alot for no reason. Even when I asked him whats a matter he said i dunno mommy and was crying while he said it. the out burst of him crying was bad. it freaked me out. Now they have him on something else i think its ridalin ( i dunno if I spelled that right) he starts that tomorrow. I hope this works because this will be the 3rd time they changed his meds. but i did notice he was acting weird on adderall. always crying was the worst...and it doesnt help when my ex wont give my son his meds when he around him. My son also has asthma so they have to make sure his asthma meds and his adhd meds dont mess him up..but we will see tomorrow when he starts this new med.
This discussion is related to side effects of adderall.
This discussion is related to side effects of adderall.
Well, that certainly IS frustrating and I wish you and your husband could get on the same page.
I agree about being proactice with our kids. It made a world of difference with my own son and do not want to think of what it would be like had we not gotten help for him. I remember clearly when HE was five and he turned to me and said "mama, I just want to be one of the guys." That has stuck with me all of this time----- he wanted to just be like everyone else and I made it my mission to help him. We're so close a lot of the time now and it makes my heart feel good to have helped him 'be one of the guys.'
I go back to asking you about sensory integration disorder techniques to add to whatever else you are doing. If his dad is remiss in his medication (again, this is hard. You can work with the court but then his following up is still an issue if no one is policing it)--- then perhaps he'd be open to some sensory activities that calm the nervous system? I could give some easy things for them to do and maybe that would help??
I agree about being proactice with our kids. It made a world of difference with my own son and do not want to think of what it would be like had we not gotten help for him. I remember clearly when HE was five and he turned to me and said "mama, I just want to be one of the guys." That has stuck with me all of this time----- he wanted to just be like everyone else and I made it my mission to help him. We're so close a lot of the time now and it makes my heart feel good to have helped him 'be one of the guys.'
I go back to asking you about sensory integration disorder techniques to add to whatever else you are doing. If his dad is remiss in his medication (again, this is hard. You can work with the court but then his following up is still an issue if no one is policing it)--- then perhaps he'd be open to some sensory activities that calm the nervous system? I could give some easy things for them to do and maybe that would help??
I got him checked out because of all the problems he was having with being defient and constantly going like he was ran by a motor, fidgeting alot with his hands and feet, he was told i dont kno how many times not to do something and went back to doing it anyway and i have a 2.5 yr and a 1 yr old and they listen better than him. you could tell a difference between them i have a older daughter too and that her brother we are talking about and she acts totally different. my ex doesnt even give his son is asthma meds or even brush there teeth. some of u can agree with him but i knew something was wrong with him. i could tell and just wanted to get him checked out and evaluated..and hes almost 5. my ex doesnt have anything to do with my kids only when he feels like it. yeah some ppl say im crazy about doing this but the medication they have him on now is helping alot. hes actually behaving alot more and listenin to me and where we can start teaching him things. i had a teacher come out every week with him to prepare him for kindergarten for next school yr i had to stop that because he wouldnt do it and he got frustrted about it..not stoping just that he couldnt sit still to do it they have had to change his med 3 times and this time it has helped alot hes been taking it last tuesday..so its been over a week and hes doing alot better.. he goes to the doctor monday and ill update everyone on that doc visit. hes seeing his doc and therapist. im not gonna just sit around and let my child suffer like i did. im gonna make sure he has a good life.
Yes I wouldnt go with the idea he has ADHD at 4 year old best to wait and see what the doctor says when he is old enough to be diagnosed ,in this instance I think his Dad is right ,.
By the way, your son is still quite young at 4. In my area, most physicians don't diagnose kids with add/adhd until they are at least 6. This used to be standard of care practices but recently they lowered the age a bit. But I would imagine getting his dose right is difficult as such a young child. I'm still curious what his original issues were that made you seek treatment.
Oh, I am sorry to hear that. That sounds like a difficult situation with their dad!
I would say that since you see an improvement in things when on medication, that he does indeed have adhd. If someone that doesn't have adhd takes the meds, they often have all of the same behavior as before medication and then side effects on top of it. What prompted you to reach out and get him diagnosed? What kind of issues was he having?
So, do you have any support dear? Do you have family that helps you at all? We can provide positive male role models for our kids through other males that show them kindness, attention and guidance. If you have a dad or brother, could any of them get involved with your kids? I do think figuring out how to have their dad in their life is important as long as it isn't traumatic and stable. I don't know about the punishing they are doing--- I'm a protective mama and I wouldn't like that. I also think that if a child has a diagnosis and you've done what you need to do to prove to the court that he does, that he'd have to do as the court says to have visitiation. But then how do you know he really does it? Ugh. That is a hard one. Oh, and what about child support??? He may not work but he is married and as a couple, should they not come up with support? When he gets a job, you ask for that dear! You shouldn't have 100 percent of the financial burden. Not fair.
Well, you certainly have your hands full. I feel for you. Let me know what you think about the exercises. good luck
I would say that since you see an improvement in things when on medication, that he does indeed have adhd. If someone that doesn't have adhd takes the meds, they often have all of the same behavior as before medication and then side effects on top of it. What prompted you to reach out and get him diagnosed? What kind of issues was he having?
So, do you have any support dear? Do you have family that helps you at all? We can provide positive male role models for our kids through other males that show them kindness, attention and guidance. If you have a dad or brother, could any of them get involved with your kids? I do think figuring out how to have their dad in their life is important as long as it isn't traumatic and stable. I don't know about the punishing they are doing--- I'm a protective mama and I wouldn't like that. I also think that if a child has a diagnosis and you've done what you need to do to prove to the court that he does, that he'd have to do as the court says to have visitiation. But then how do you know he really does it? Ugh. That is a hard one. Oh, and what about child support??? He may not work but he is married and as a couple, should they not come up with support? When he gets a job, you ask for that dear! You shouldn't have 100 percent of the financial burden. Not fair.
Well, you certainly have your hands full. I feel for you. Let me know what you think about the exercises. good luck
Im not really sure about him and his dad. He is happy to see him when my ex decides he can get them. Even when I ask him to watch his son during the week he says I have to give him notice and I'm like no I don't. He doesn't work. He doesnt want his son taking the med and doesnt think he is ADHD. We dont have court order visitiation because we were never married. Just bf and gf at the time. He cheated on me and got the girl hes married to pregnant. Him and his wife tell me my son isnt hes just being a typical boy but there is a difference between typical boy and one with ADHD. my daughter does have issues with not seeing her dad..She is the oldest and has been around him more shes 6. my son is 4 be 5 in april and his dad didnt ever have anything to relly do with him. He always wanted me. When our son was 5 months old is when he cheated and got his wife pregnant (they werent married) he lied to me but i knew it was true so I lefted him..He did see his kids and keeping them for like 2 or 3 days..but now its only maybe 1 or 2 days a week..and he doesnt work like i said before..i have 2 other children besides my oldest girl and my son..my younger 2 are also girls. so my son is the only boy..and the only one who has been diagnosed with illnesses...I have tried to talk to my ex about it but he doesnt want to listen...I guess im going to have to take him to court to get all this fixed and make sure my son gets his meds..i think my son is havng some self esstem issues tho..when hes at his dads he does still have accidents and they make him stand in a corner in the wet clothes..i dont get on to him about having a accident...because most of the time he does it is when he is playn or napping..but when hes at his dads he has a accident they get on to him and make him stand in the wet clothes and thats not right and my 6 yr old is telln me this even his wife..i have to supply clothes, meds, tooth brushes and toothpaste..they dont even have beds over there..i really dont kno what to do about all of this but when i talked to his nurse at the mental health tuesday she said that i make sure i tell him everything that is going on and he can go from there..
Well, I'm so happy to hear he is doing better. Sandman recommends a book by Sysan Ashley called "the add/adhd answer book" which might be good for you to look through.
My son has sensory issues which like adhd involve his nervous system. We have found that physical activity is very calming to him. Things that provide muscle work, deep pressure, and impact really soothe the nervous system directly. A perfect exercise is swimming if you have access to a pool, indoor or out. We do animal walks across the floor with a lot of crab walks, bear walks, and leap frogs. He does "push over" with walls in which he stands in front of them and presses against it with his arms to "push it over". These types of games provide that muscle work. Have you tried things like this? We find that our son is less emotional if he is 'regulated' and lots of these activities regulate him. Many with adhd find the same thing. If you'd like more ideas of things to do, let me know.
That is a problem with the lack of consistency with dad. Does he not want him taking medication or believe in the diagnosis? I think that a court can mandate that he follow certain instructions during his visitiation if you feel it is necessary to go that route. But I hate when parents are on different pages.
I don't know if what your son is taking now is the medication for him or if any medication is for him. But I do commend you for trying to help your boy and doing the best you can. Hopefully it will all work out and he'll continue to improve--- and if he is continuing on medication that they find the right one and dose to work for him. peace and good luck
My son has sensory issues which like adhd involve his nervous system. We have found that physical activity is very calming to him. Things that provide muscle work, deep pressure, and impact really soothe the nervous system directly. A perfect exercise is swimming if you have access to a pool, indoor or out. We do animal walks across the floor with a lot of crab walks, bear walks, and leap frogs. He does "push over" with walls in which he stands in front of them and presses against it with his arms to "push it over". These types of games provide that muscle work. Have you tried things like this? We find that our son is less emotional if he is 'regulated' and lots of these activities regulate him. Many with adhd find the same thing. If you'd like more ideas of things to do, let me know.
That is a problem with the lack of consistency with dad. Does he not want him taking medication or believe in the diagnosis? I think that a court can mandate that he follow certain instructions during his visitiation if you feel it is necessary to go that route. But I hate when parents are on different pages.
I don't know if what your son is taking now is the medication for him or if any medication is for him. But I do commend you for trying to help your boy and doing the best you can. Hopefully it will all work out and he'll continue to improve--- and if he is continuing on medication that they find the right one and dose to work for him. peace and good luck
my son was refered to see a psychiatrist....thats who he sees everymonth and sees a therapist 2 times a month..the doctor did not say he was...i had them refer him to the bedhaveroil center here where we live..he first seen a therapist and she said that the doctor will have to see him to diagnose him..the doctor did say he is ADHD with ODD...the adderall made him cry alot and i did ask a pharmatist if that is a side effect to the med and he said yes..so when they changed his med this time i asked him again he said its in the same area as adderall and it could but not every child does..and so far so good..it just messes him up when he goes to his dads and he doesnt get his meds non of them...he doesnt show anger or anything its just like hes constently going..its also combined with odd..so its adhd combine with odd...hes is doing better since they put him on meds...so ill see how it goes for the rest of the week and weekend..i know last time he was on it for a week and they had to up it because it wasnt doin anything after he got used to taken it..it was like he was before he was on it..they said it does take time to get the right dosage...but im hoping that this time it is good to go..over all hes actually a good kid just he was havn problems before they put him on the med..he would hit himself alot and hes anger was out of control but now its doing a lot better..
Hi, I Agree about counseling. i am a firm believer in starting that earlier rather than later. I imagine that you are seeing a child psychiatrist that diagnosed your son and that is the place to go back to. They probably work with psychologists in the same office or can refer you. If this diagnosis came from your general practitioner or pediatrician, I'd absolutely go see a psychiatrist specializing in children to confirm the diagnosis, Then you can inquire about counseling as well.
My son that has sensory integration disorder was diagnosed officially at 4 and we began occupational therapy at that time. He too was quite emotional and had difficulty handling moods, frustration, anger, etc. We helped him with using his words and appropriate things to do when he was overtaken with emotion.
Is your child just sitting and crying or have you linked a cause or triggers yet?
My son that has sensory integration disorder was diagnosed officially at 4 and we began occupational therapy at that time. He too was quite emotional and had difficulty handling moods, frustration, anger, etc. We helped him with using his words and appropriate things to do when he was overtaken with emotion.
Is your child just sitting and crying or have you linked a cause or triggers yet?
My advice will always be steer clear of meds like adderal and in fact all of the prescribed meds, except of course anything he needs for the asthma,if possible go the nutritious food and supplement way.Get him involved in physical exercise ,challenged children do well with sports of all kinds, ball games.,ask his dad when he has him to also get him outside playing,board games are enjoyed by children, that's a good thing that adults to join in with also .
He is 4 going on 5 years old. He was diagnosed with ADHD. The whole spilt custody no I had full custody of my son. He only see his dad whenever his dad feels like it. It doesnt bother him because he always tells his dad he wnts to come home. but when he was on adderall he had bad crying modes but his on this other med and its actually doing good so far..no crying...but thisis the first day. so we will see how it goes from here..and his eating habit its perfect actually..he eats all the time they said the med could mess him up where he doesnt always wanna eat and it hasnt done that..they had him on adderal 5 which wasnt strong enough then they put him on adderal 7.5 it helped but the crying got worse. so they wanted to try a diff med to see if it may help.he is contently on the go never sit down and always messed with his feet and hands..you could tell it wasnt him being typical boy...my ex doesnt believe me about it but i dont care what he says he doesnt do anything for our children i even have to supply everything for when they do visit even tylenol...but with this new med it is helping i can already start telling it but that doesnt mean nothing he can get used to it like last time and they had to up it..and yeah there isa few problems that i have to deal with when he comes home from his dads..but when he goes back to his doctor im going to discuss that stuff with him and see what i need to do..becuse i understnd he doesnt want to give his son his adhd meds but its makes me mad because he wont even give his son his asthma meds..his dad always says i forgot or we were playn...if a kid has meds thats something you should remember..but thats my opinion...and thank for yall answers im new at this whole adhd thing..he got diagnosed in october..so im going from there and just tryn to learn it..so if anyone else has any advice ill will greatly appreciate it..
Ugh. My fault------ I think there is another post with downs just recently and I got confused. Sadly,, that happens to me way too often.
My in laws have an aspergers child that also has adhd and sensory issues. They've gone the route of supplements and feel it has been successful in helping their son. Their main issue was delivering it to him as he has so many quirks.
Both my kids take a multi vitamin every day and extra vitamin c in cold weather months. I'm careful with vitamins though as so many have the dyes that are also linked to issues. "Little Critters" is suppose to be free of that and they make multis and some with fish oil and others as well.
My in laws have an aspergers child that also has adhd and sensory issues. They've gone the route of supplements and feel it has been successful in helping their son. Their main issue was delivering it to him as he has so many quirks.
Both my kids take a multi vitamin every day and extra vitamin c in cold weather months. I'm careful with vitamins though as so many have the dyes that are also linked to issues. "Little Critters" is suppose to be free of that and they make multis and some with fish oil and others as well.
If you do some research you will see that many parents with Downs Children do in fact give them supplements ..and if its a way you chose to go check out all the facts ..good luck
I visited a nutrutionist at a major university a state away from where I lived. We made a few trips. We focused on dietary issues that might affect my son's sensory issues. For us, we had no luck with it at all. But that doesn't mean that others shouldn't try it.
Most experts in the field recommend a balance of things to combat adhd. Diet, physical activity, behavioral training, supplements and medication.
With downs I'm sure it is much more compicated. For example, taking supplements would be more difficult. Eating is a chore in general. My son can do gummie supplements if they taste good but some kids can not chew these that have extended problems.
Hopefully you are working with a full approach with the specialists you see to do the best you can for your child. I know that is your goal and I do wish you luck!
Most experts in the field recommend a balance of things to combat adhd. Diet, physical activity, behavioral training, supplements and medication.
With downs I'm sure it is much more compicated. For example, taking supplements would be more difficult. Eating is a chore in general. My son can do gummie supplements if they taste good but some kids can not chew these that have extended problems.
Hopefully you are working with a full approach with the specialists you see to do the best you can for your child. I know that is your goal and I do wish you luck!
I have put a journal up at this moment about Ritalin ..the report there was taken from the Pediatrics journal take a look and do some research most of the drugs prescribed for ADHD have nasty side effects and its about time Doctors stopped prescribing them like candy .I agree with hmscomb0206 Try giving him some supplements ..anti oxidants Vit C and B Complex and also fish oil has been shown to be useful .
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Ummm, you have a son who is in split custody. That would depress any kid. If he does have ADHD, then its kind of typical that they never slow down long enough to have or express feelings. On the medication, they have the ability to think things through - which could cause the crying.
I don't know how old he is - but with or without ADHD kids do need to know how to express their feelings. They can be taught how to do this. Depending on his age (I'm guessing under 7) - there are some great books out there which are meant to be read to the child. This would also be great for your ex to do - really helps with bonding. Check out "When I feel sad" which can be found here - http://www.amazon.com/When-Feel-Sad-Way-Books/dp/0807588997/ref=pd_sim_b_3
And there are several others listed that may help a lot - such as "two homes". Hope this helps. I monitor the ADHD forum if you have any other questions.
I don't know how old he is - but with or without ADHD kids do need to know how to express their feelings. They can be taught how to do this. Depending on his age (I'm guessing under 7) - there are some great books out there which are meant to be read to the child. This would also be great for your ex to do - really helps with bonding. Check out "When I feel sad" which can be found here - http://www.amazon.com/When-Feel-Sad-Way-Books/dp/0807588997/ref=pd_sim_b_3
And there are several others listed that may help a lot - such as "two homes". Hope this helps. I monitor the ADHD forum if you have any other questions.
I would watch your child closely with these side effects. Both those medicines are known to be bad for children and they can cause side effects. I would talk to the doctor about putting your child on a medicine that does not have a lot of side effects and one that is going to benefit your child. But, my personal opinion, if you do not trust the medicine, refuse it and ask for something else. You are your child's own advocate.
How old is your son? Has he actually been diagnosed with add/adhd?
Why did they switch his medication--- due to the crying? What did he say he was crying about?
Could your son be depressed? Sounds like multiple things going on.
I will tell you that these medications only work if a child is properly diagnosed and misdiagnosis happens all of the time. For example, my son has something called sensory integration disorder which involves the nervous system and has many of the exact same symptoms as adhd. However, medication would do nothing to help my child and we'd be left just with side effects.
So, do you trust your son's diagnosis and do you feel the medication has any positive effect?
Why did they switch his medication--- due to the crying? What did he say he was crying about?
Could your son be depressed? Sounds like multiple things going on.
I will tell you that these medications only work if a child is properly diagnosed and misdiagnosis happens all of the time. For example, my son has something called sensory integration disorder which involves the nervous system and has many of the exact same symptoms as adhd. However, medication would do nothing to help my child and we'd be left just with side effects.
So, do you trust your son's diagnosis and do you feel the medication has any positive effect?
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