that's hw short question. for fibromyalgic/ inflammation pains, i wondered if quinine could be something i could give a go. i would just drink (occasional) tonic water off the shelves, but i really figure the sugar in it would be net detriment... what's another source of quinine? thanks!
Aching in your muscles and joints and fatigue. It hurts you to get out of the chair, also fatigued.You wake up tired and go to bed tired. Your head always feels tired.
Complaints of fatigue and joint pains are,unfortunately, very common. fibromyalgia, a condition characterized by muscular aches and pains, fatigue, and difficulty sleeping. It is much more common in women, and it can be debilitating. Many conventional medical doctors do not think that fibromyalgia exists. In fact, many patients who believe
they have this condition are often derided by their doctors. One reason many conventional doctors do not think fibromyalgia is a “real” condition is that no specific medication is effective for treating this illness. Some medications do help lower the symptoms of
fibromyalgia. These include analgesics such as Tylenol and Motrin. Some doctors will prescribe antidepressant medications, although there are many adverse effects.
Anti-seizure drugs are the conventional treatment for fibromyalgia. These include Neurontin and Lyrica. Nobody really knows how these medications treat the symptoms (particularly the aches and pains) of fibromyalgia. These medications can help some
individuals with fibromyalgia. But these drugs also have serious side effects. Lyrica, the first FDA-approved drug to treat fibromyalgia, has been associated with severe allergic
reactions that can cause angioedema — swelling of the throat, head, and neck, resulting in airway compromise. Furthermore, Lyrica can promote weight gain, sleepiness,
dry mouth, and brain fog. Finally all seizure medications, including Lyrica, can
increase the risk of suicidal thoughts and behaviors.
When you look at the adverse effects of Lyrica, I think it should be used as a last resort. most patients with fibromyalgia have endocrine disruptions, including hypothyroidism. It's virtually impossible to treat fibromyalgia effectively without ensuring a properly functioning thyroid gland.
One of the most common hormone deficiencies that can cause or exacerbate fibromyalgia is growth hormone.Growth hormone is secreted from the pituitary gland. Like all hormones, growth hormone levels peak at a young age and decline as we get older. Growth hormone is one of the master hormones of the body. It can control the release and
balance of the other endocrine glands
Growth hormone can be given only by injection. It is a bioidentical hormone. There are supplements which are reported to stimulate the release of growth hormone.
those supplements has been mixed at best. They are expensive and do not work nearly as well as the real thing: growth hormone.
Growth hormone therapy can be miraculous. more than 80 percent of patients who try
human growth hormone have a positive experience with it. From what I read more than 17 years of using low-dose human growth hormone has shown very little adverse effects associated with its use.
Quinine comes from cinchona bark. It was originally added to tonic water to protect from malaria, but is still in it and some sodas for its bitter taste. As far as using quinine for fibromyalgia, its only approved use is for malaria. Docs have been using it for restless leg and other things, but it is kidney toxic if you use too much for too long and the govt has recently issued a warning for people to stop using it for anything but malaria. Doesn't seem to be harmful in the small amounts you find when it's used as a bitters, but apparently too much can be a problem, so care would seem advisable.
Quinine is in a product by Hyland's called Leg Cramps. Its a homeopathic mixture in a tablet. It has some form of Magnesium in it also. Works for all muscle aches and cramps. I use it when really sore but no all the time - it says 'safe pain relief' on the little plastic container but still......
Well your an Auzzie........In the US Walmart sells this product and other drug stores. I'm sure its on the net somewhere.
"meaning the quinine is highly diluted so there are no active ingredients"
OK, I dont know how it works, only know that it boasts about containing quinine and, myself as well as others have found it works very well for muscle tightness. I have had extreme muscle knotting all over at times from Hashimoto and Hylands Leg Cramps helped.
Magnessium Glycinate also helped me with muscle pain and tightness. Magnessium oxide never did anything for relaxing muscles in my case. But it needs to be separated from thyroid replacement hormone.
Although I dont have fibromyalgia, I have been in extreme pain this spring with FT4 off the bottom of the range when I could not absorb the new formulation of US made Nature Throid.
Canadian Thyroid seems to be getting me back on track. I remeber you are hypo thyroid also. Does Australia allow thyroid meds that contain T3? If they do have you tried this? T3 with T4 med helps many Hashimoto patitents with severe muscle pain.
hello mate, good to hear from. i've got no clue about thyroid meds except for the one i was on.
hylands, mg glycinate- noted. cause my legs hurt the most.
another fibro forum member reports relief from "d-ribose"; i think it's a powder. worth a shot.
sorry you have/ had a big bad hypo episode, sounds like hell
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