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Circumcision ban may end up on San Francisco ballot
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(CBS) -- The city that may soon outlaw toys in McDonald's Happy Meals could have a measure banning circumcision on next November's ballot, reports CBS San Francisco.
"It's genital mutilation," said Lloyd Schofield, the author of a San Francisco ballot measure that would make it a "misdemeanor to circumcise, excise, cut or mutilate the...genitals" of a person under 18.
Baby boys in San Francisco may be relieved but not everybody agrees with a proposed ban.
"I just had him circumcised 3 weeks ago," said Heather Wisnicky of Sacramento, mother of Tyler, a 6-week-old baby boy. "It's a health issue. It's cleaner," she said.
Scientists with the Centers for Disease Control are still studying whether circumcisions are healthier, and have promised recommendations to the public. Meanwhile, according to the New York Times, a CDC researcher reported a sharp drop in the number of American parents choosing circumcision in hospitals - from 56 percent in 2006 to less than 33 percent last year.
"Most medical groups have not come out with strong opinions regarding pro or con circumcisions," said CBS 5 medical reporter Dr. Kim Mulvihill. "Most are saying leave it up to the families, let them decide what's right for their son."
"Ah, that's a little much," said Earl Phillips of San Francisco about the proposed ban. "That goes a little bit too far."
"You shouldn't be performing cosmetic surgery for other people," said Schofield, who points out that female circumcision is banned, but was covered by Blue Cross insurance in the United States into the 1970s.
"It's your choice, it's your child... government can't rule us on everything we do," said Wisnicky, the Sacramento mother.
"Tattooing a child is banned as a felony and circumcision is more harmful than a tattoo," said Schofield, who believes religious traditions should change.
"People can practice whatever religion they want, but your religious practice ends with someone else's body," said Schofield. "It's a man's body and... his body doesn't belong to his culture, his government, his religion or even his parents. It's his decision."
The measure is not on the ballot yet. Schofield needs to collect more than 7,100 signatures.
(CBS) -- The city that may soon outlaw toys in McDonald's Happy Meals could have a measure banning circumcision on next November's ballot, reports CBS San Francisco.
"It's genital mutilation," said Lloyd Schofield, the author of a San Francisco ballot measure that would make it a "misdemeanor to circumcise, excise, cut or mutilate the...genitals" of a person under 18.
Baby boys in San Francisco may be relieved but not everybody agrees with a proposed ban.
"I just had him circumcised 3 weeks ago," said Heather Wisnicky of Sacramento, mother of Tyler, a 6-week-old baby boy. "It's a health issue. It's cleaner," she said.
Scientists with the Centers for Disease Control are still studying whether circumcisions are healthier, and have promised recommendations to the public. Meanwhile, according to the New York Times, a CDC researcher reported a sharp drop in the number of American parents choosing circumcision in hospitals - from 56 percent in 2006 to less than 33 percent last year.
"Most medical groups have not come out with strong opinions regarding pro or con circumcisions," said CBS 5 medical reporter Dr. Kim Mulvihill. "Most are saying leave it up to the families, let them decide what's right for their son."
"Ah, that's a little much," said Earl Phillips of San Francisco about the proposed ban. "That goes a little bit too far."
"You shouldn't be performing cosmetic surgery for other people," said Schofield, who points out that female circumcision is banned, but was covered by Blue Cross insurance in the United States into the 1970s.
"It's your choice, it's your child... government can't rule us on everything we do," said Wisnicky, the Sacramento mother.
"Tattooing a child is banned as a felony and circumcision is more harmful than a tattoo," said Schofield, who believes religious traditions should change.
"People can practice whatever religion they want, but your religious practice ends with someone else's body," said Schofield. "It's a man's body and... his body doesn't belong to his culture, his government, his religion or even his parents. It's his decision."
The measure is not on the ballot yet. Schofield needs to collect more than 7,100 signatures.
So it's legal to make the *choice* to abort a baby, but they want to make it illegal to have the *choice* to circumcise a baby boy? Interesting...one choice kills while the other can benefit personal health of a human being, but the choice that takes a life is perfectly accepted and legal.
Here's a thought: if it's such a concern to make abortion illegal because then unsanitary, life-threatening abortions would likely take place, do they not think the same thing could happen to baby boys by making something as trivial and harmless as circumcision illegal?
What morons.
Here's a thought: if it's such a concern to make abortion illegal because then unsanitary, life-threatening abortions would likely take place, do they not think the same thing could happen to baby boys by making something as trivial and harmless as circumcision illegal?
What morons.
Getting rid of its population would make plenty of room for illegal immigration to find a stronger foothold, and whatever political party condones that behavior will reap the rewards.
California is the kid who got dropped as a baby. Looks normal, even has a few good looking traits, but you can sure as hell know about it when it begins to speak..... Maybe California didnt get enough hugs...... I dont know, but things there are the equivilant of a soup sandwich.... California is probably the only state in the nation that has to hand out reading helmets.....
California is the kid who got dropped as a baby. Looks normal, even has a few good looking traits, but you can sure as hell know about it when it begins to speak..... Maybe California didnt get enough hugs...... I dont know, but things there are the equivilant of a soup sandwich.... California is probably the only state in the nation that has to hand out reading helmets.....
LOL, yeah, it would appear that Californi wants to get rid of its problems by doing away with its population!
Oh Good God! Why in the world would anyone with half a brain want to live in San Francisco?? They apparently only allow "right think" and love Big Brother.
LOL Brice
Perfect.....as if the state of California had nothing else to worry about. This is why that state is in the disarray that its in. "Lets lay blame on circumcism!!! Those pesky fore-skins are ruining everything!"
These people in San Francisco certainly are into telling people what they can or can't do, aren't they?
Our son was circumcised and so is his son. At the time, there really were no questions asked about it, because it was believed to be the best thing to do.
The government (whether it be local, state or federal) is overstepping their authority in too many ways.
Our son was circumcised and so is his son. At the time, there really were no questions asked about it, because it was believed to be the best thing to do.
The government (whether it be local, state or federal) is overstepping their authority in too many ways.
I have to admit, this one baffles me. A custom that came about in the name of medical and sanitary reasons, is now challenged as mutilation? All of my boys were circumcised and there was really no other choice at that time, it was a given. Now my grandsons, some are circumcised, some not, depending on the parental choice. In my own family tho, a couple of the ones who were not, did get an infection a time or two, but I think it is more not cleaning properly than anything else. I just dont understand the hooplah about some of this stuff.
I was on a journal the other day where the breastfeeding moms seemed to be pitted against the bottle feeders. This article kinda reminds me that we all have choices, based on our own experiences, lifestyles and beliefs. BUT, the important thing it seems is how to hang on to those choices?
I was on a journal the other day where the breastfeeding moms seemed to be pitted against the bottle feeders. This article kinda reminds me that we all have choices, based on our own experiences, lifestyles and beliefs. BUT, the important thing it seems is how to hang on to those choices?
We chose not to circumcise our son. Note the word CHOSE. What is going on? First Happy Meals, now circumcision? Can't wait to see what's next. Aren't there enough real problems for them to work out? Must be nice to have so much free time on their hands....
Ridiculous...no one should decide this but the parents. I think that the comparison to a tattoo is funny....my husband doesn't remember his circumcision. you bet your right BUTTOCKS that I remember my tattoos!
On a similar note...I read about couple who had quadruplets...identical quadruplets...and had a number tattooed on the bottom of each baby's big toe. It sounds awful but apparently the tattoos were free-handed so they took mere seconds (as in approximately 5-10 seconds each) and I can kinda understand why they did that....they had NO way to tell them apart. I don't think I would personally, but I always found that story a bit funny...is that weird?
On a similar note...I read about couple who had quadruplets...identical quadruplets...and had a number tattooed on the bottom of each baby's big toe. It sounds awful but apparently the tattoos were free-handed so they took mere seconds (as in approximately 5-10 seconds each) and I can kinda understand why they did that....they had NO way to tell them apart. I don't think I would personally, but I always found that story a bit funny...is that weird?
The last thing I want is a damn politician making health care calls for me, especially for something as trivial as a circumcism. What in the hell is going on in California? Why do they want big brother making all of the calls for them? I just dont get it!!!!
My son isn't circumcised,but I believe it is an individual decision as long as it is done under an anaesthetic,no government should make these decisions,
As for circumcision being cleaner,not so,as long as you teach your child proper hygeine there is no difference,
And it is said a man with foreskin has a heightened sexual arousal during intercourse.Of course I don't know if this is true as I'm not a male,LOL
What will happen to boys of the Jewish faith will they make allowances?
As for circumcision being cleaner,not so,as long as you teach your child proper hygeine there is no difference,
And it is said a man with foreskin has a heightened sexual arousal during intercourse.Of course I don't know if this is true as I'm not a male,LOL
What will happen to boys of the Jewish faith will they make allowances?
Circumcision is worse than a tatoo? How so? I had both my boys circumcised, my husband is, everyone in my family is. It was my understanding that not only is it cleaner but can even protect against HIV, HPV, cervical cancer and other things. That was what I was told anyway.
What is it with San Francisco?
Sure sounds like Big Brother stepping in again. I don't like this. What's next?
What is it with San Francisco?
Sure sounds like Big Brother stepping in again. I don't like this. What's next?
Seriously these people have too much money, therefore too much time on their hands. I think a good solution would be for them to do manual labor during the day so they can sleep at night instead of thinking of ways to pass more laws.
I really don't understand this kind of thinking. Male circumcision has been the norm for a long time in America and there were even studies that showed that it might potentially prevent the spread of HIV in Africa (conducted within standard scientific research). Female circumcision which is genital mutilation is of course an atrocity and should be classified as a crime but the two are completely different. Laws like this are putting energy in the wrong direction and also regulating people's lives, their decisions and cultures in a manner that makes no sense. Male circumcision is not more harmful than a tattoo and the research behind this if there was any came to conclusions that were not logical. I do agree (and this was studied) with local anesthesia being used during this procedure but other than that it is a standard procedure and should remain a choice.
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