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Failed on soda, now going after smokes
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/18/nyc-anti-smoking-plan-tobacco-view_n_2901164.html
First off, I'd like to say that I am not a smoker. I do find it offensive and obviously it is no good for your health. I'm pretty sure that every smoker in this country understands that, especially when they start to cough up a lung.
What I wanted to get to though was this..... What kind of fiscal shape is New York City in? Are there no other issues there for Bloomberg to address? I mean... go after the rat infestation or something, guy.
First off, I'd like to say that I am not a smoker. I do find it offensive and obviously it is no good for your health. I'm pretty sure that every smoker in this country understands that, especially when they start to cough up a lung.
What I wanted to get to though was this..... What kind of fiscal shape is New York City in? Are there no other issues there for Bloomberg to address? I mean... go after the rat infestation or something, guy.
Laugh it up. At the rate things are going, I bet this is on the agenda.
Tofu burger with avocado, real tomatoes, romaine lettuce and dijon mustard on a wheat bun. A pickle on the side and an Odwalla green juice. Mmmmmmm.
But really, I agree the law shouldn't be involved.
But really, I agree the law shouldn't be involved.
Ha ha. It's all silly, isn't it?
Oh Lord what if he bans ketchup? I love ketchup I eat it on just about everything! It's full of sugar right? One packet per burger (if we are allowed to eat meat and cheese with bacon on top that is). Oh no!!!!
I just dont see where the line starts and stops.........I've always been a line crosser it's too much stress for me.
Well, my point is that it is dumb to have it mandating the amount of soda served and french fries on a plate. Just my opinion.
I guess if you want to call that a slippery slope, okay by me. But really I was just making a comparison of one dumb law to something that would be another dumb law.
I mean, some of us fatties really don't hang out at resturants . . . we do our best eat'n at home in private.
Okay, I used to do that. The new me is on a health food kick and I've purged 'most' of the bad stuff from my diet. Some day I'll order fish when out withOUT the sauce. I haven't gone that far yet. When out, I want it to taste good. At home, I'll eat my protein bland.
I guess if you want to call that a slippery slope, okay by me. But really I was just making a comparison of one dumb law to something that would be another dumb law.
I mean, some of us fatties really don't hang out at resturants . . . we do our best eat'n at home in private.
Okay, I used to do that. The new me is on a health food kick and I've purged 'most' of the bad stuff from my diet. Some day I'll order fish when out withOUT the sauce. I haven't gone that far yet. When out, I want it to taste good. At home, I'll eat my protein bland.
I think we all know that sugary drinks, smoking, french fries, etc are not good for us, but is it really up to the mayor of a city to decide that? Isn't education much more effective than mandates?
I doubt seriously that a mayor trying to dictate size of sugary drinks or smoking issues is hardly a slippery slope. We have a lot more important issues to worry about (like possibly another war), but by the same token, one person should not get to decide how much sugary drink a person can have. What difference does it make if I drink a 48 ounce sweetened drink or if I sit in my kitchen and eat a cupful of sugar or a dozen cookies/donuts, couple of pies, etc. Where does it end? As nygirl said "I'm telling you if the dude bans donuts or pizza he'll find out what a fight really is.". I've never been a donut/sweets eater, but both those, pizza, sugary drinks and all those other "goodies" are now off my menu. No skin off my nose, but there is a principal involved.
The smoking issue is a bit different - there aren't so many different types of smoking materials, and smoking has been banned in a lot of places already. That's really only going to bother the smokers.
I doubt seriously that a mayor trying to dictate size of sugary drinks or smoking issues is hardly a slippery slope. We have a lot more important issues to worry about (like possibly another war), but by the same token, one person should not get to decide how much sugary drink a person can have. What difference does it make if I drink a 48 ounce sweetened drink or if I sit in my kitchen and eat a cupful of sugar or a dozen cookies/donuts, couple of pies, etc. Where does it end? As nygirl said "I'm telling you if the dude bans donuts or pizza he'll find out what a fight really is.". I've never been a donut/sweets eater, but both those, pizza, sugary drinks and all those other "goodies" are now off my menu. No skin off my nose, but there is a principal involved.
The smoking issue is a bit different - there aren't so many different types of smoking materials, and smoking has been banned in a lot of places already. That's really only going to bother the smokers.
Please, is this the slippery slope I hear so much about?
I am not buying that one bit.
What scares me is war and talk of war and not that a mayor tries to limit the size of a poisonous beverage to a paltry 16 ounces.
I am not buying that one bit.
What scares me is war and talk of war and not that a mayor tries to limit the size of a poisonous beverage to a paltry 16 ounces.
Hm. I'm not sure that there was ever a question about whether soda is good for somone. I'm thinking lots of what you find on a menu isn't good for people.
So, maybe New York will go after eliminating french fries next?
Or is it our right to eat a fry? Should we only have 10 fries to a plate? Should resturants have that mandated?
So, maybe New York will go after eliminating french fries next?
Or is it our right to eat a fry? Should we only have 10 fries to a plate? Should resturants have that mandated?
LOL! My son who lives in NYC is in complete agreement with you.
I dont drink soda either I am just sick on Mr. Mayor arbitrarily just deciding what people can and cant have. I'm telling you if the dude bans donuts or pizza he'll find out what a fight really is.
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Thank you for that, Mike.
Just because it is FDA/USDA approved doesn't mean it is not harmful to your body. I have always considered sodas wasted calories at best
Just because it is FDA/USDA approved doesn't mean it is not harmful to your body. I have always considered sodas wasted calories at best
Sugary Drinks Add to Global Death Rates
By Chris Kaiser, Cardiology Editor, MedPage Today
Published: March 20, 2013
Action Points
This study was published as an abstract and presented at a conference. These data and conclusions should be considered to be preliminary until published in a peer-reviewed journal.
That pick-me-up sugary soda may ultimately put you 6' under, given findings that linked nearly 200,000 deaths worldwide in 2010 with sugar-sweetened beverages.
The 184,000 adult deaths worldwide associated with sugar-sweetened soda, sports drinks, and fruit drinks included 132,000 from diabetes, 45,000 from cardiovascular disease, and 4,600 from cancers, according to Gitanjali Singh, PhD, a postdoctoral research fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health, and colleagues.
The highest death rate that could be attributed to intake of sugar-sweetened beverages was in adults older than 65 in Latin America and the Caribbean, with 118 deaths per million population, the researchers reported at the American Heart Association (AHA) Epidemiology and Prevention/Nutrition, Physical Activity and Metabolism 2013 Scientific Sessions.
In the U.S., the research indicated that about 25,000 deaths in 2010 were linked to drinking sugar-sweetened beverages.
"Sugar-sweetened beverages are consumed throughout the world, and contribute to excess body weight, which increases the risk of developing diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, and some cancers," researchers wrote.
The AHA recommends no more than 450 calories per week from sugar-sweetened beverages, based on a 2,000-calorie diet. The organization in 2010 had unveiled "Life's Simple Seven," as part of its "2020 Initiative." The goal of the initiative is to improve the cardiovascular health of all Americans by 20% while reducing death from cardiovascular diseases and stroke by 20%.
The Simple Seven health behaviors or factors that are associated with a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease and a decreased risk of cancer are smoking, physical activity, obesity, dietary intake, total cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood sugar.
For the current study, Singh and colleagues focused on the burden of adiposity-related cardiovascular disease, cancers, and diabetes, which, they said, had "not been systematically assessed" in terms of the impact that sugar‐sweetened beverages have on them.
The data were collected as part of the 2010 Global Burden of Diseases Study. Researchers talked with experts across the globe to obtain 114 national dietary surveys, covering more than 60% of the population.
They used country‐, age‐, sex‐, and cause‐specific mortality data from the World Health Organization and employed various analytical tools to evaluate the data.
Singh and colleagues found that 78% of the 184,000 deaths in 2010 associated with overconsuming sugary drinks were in low and middle-income countries, rather than high-income countries.
Of the 15 most populous countries, Mexico ranked at the top for the largest absolute deaths (318 deaths per million adults) and proportional deaths (30% of adults younger than 45) due to sugar-sweetened beverages. The country also has one of the highest per-capita consumption of sugary beverages in the world, researchers said.
Japan, one of the countries with lowest per-capita consumption of sugary beverages in the world, had the lowest death rate associated with the consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages, at about 10 deaths per million adults.
In all age groups (20 to 44, 45 to 65, and over 65) and in both men and women, Central American countries had the highest mortality rate associated with sugary drinks. China and Japan had the lowest in all those categories.
The range of consumption varied, from less than one serving per day in Chinese women older than 65 to more than five servings per day in Cuban men younger than 45.
East/Central Eurasia had the largest number of cardiovascular deaths (11,000) in 2010 related to the consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages, while Latin America/Caribbean had the most diabetes deaths (38,000).
"Because we were focused on deaths due to chronic diseases, our study focused on adults. Future research should assess the amount of sugary beverage consumption in children across the world and how this affects their current and future health," researchers said.
The study was funded by the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
One co-author reported relationships with GlaxoSmithKline, Sigma Tau, Pronova, International Life Sciences Institute, Bunge, SPRIM, Pollock Institute, Nutrition Impact, Foodminds, McKinsey Health Systems Institute, and Unilever North America.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Cardiology/Diabetes/37988
By Chris Kaiser, Cardiology Editor, MedPage Today
Published: March 20, 2013
Action Points
This study was published as an abstract and presented at a conference. These data and conclusions should be considered to be preliminary until published in a peer-reviewed journal.
That pick-me-up sugary soda may ultimately put you 6' under, given findings that linked nearly 200,000 deaths worldwide in 2010 with sugar-sweetened beverages.
The 184,000 adult deaths worldwide associated with sugar-sweetened soda, sports drinks, and fruit drinks included 132,000 from diabetes, 45,000 from cardiovascular disease, and 4,600 from cancers, according to Gitanjali Singh, PhD, a postdoctoral research fellow at the Harvard School of Public Health, and colleagues.
The highest death rate that could be attributed to intake of sugar-sweetened beverages was in adults older than 65 in Latin America and the Caribbean, with 118 deaths per million population, the researchers reported at the American Heart Association (AHA) Epidemiology and Prevention/Nutrition, Physical Activity and Metabolism 2013 Scientific Sessions.
In the U.S., the research indicated that about 25,000 deaths in 2010 were linked to drinking sugar-sweetened beverages.
"Sugar-sweetened beverages are consumed throughout the world, and contribute to excess body weight, which increases the risk of developing diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, and some cancers," researchers wrote.
The AHA recommends no more than 450 calories per week from sugar-sweetened beverages, based on a 2,000-calorie diet. The organization in 2010 had unveiled "Life's Simple Seven," as part of its "2020 Initiative." The goal of the initiative is to improve the cardiovascular health of all Americans by 20% while reducing death from cardiovascular diseases and stroke by 20%.
The Simple Seven health behaviors or factors that are associated with a reduced risk of cardiovascular disease and a decreased risk of cancer are smoking, physical activity, obesity, dietary intake, total cholesterol, blood pressure, and blood sugar.
For the current study, Singh and colleagues focused on the burden of adiposity-related cardiovascular disease, cancers, and diabetes, which, they said, had "not been systematically assessed" in terms of the impact that sugar‐sweetened beverages have on them.
The data were collected as part of the 2010 Global Burden of Diseases Study. Researchers talked with experts across the globe to obtain 114 national dietary surveys, covering more than 60% of the population.
They used country‐, age‐, sex‐, and cause‐specific mortality data from the World Health Organization and employed various analytical tools to evaluate the data.
Singh and colleagues found that 78% of the 184,000 deaths in 2010 associated with overconsuming sugary drinks were in low and middle-income countries, rather than high-income countries.
Of the 15 most populous countries, Mexico ranked at the top for the largest absolute deaths (318 deaths per million adults) and proportional deaths (30% of adults younger than 45) due to sugar-sweetened beverages. The country also has one of the highest per-capita consumption of sugary beverages in the world, researchers said.
Japan, one of the countries with lowest per-capita consumption of sugary beverages in the world, had the lowest death rate associated with the consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages, at about 10 deaths per million adults.
In all age groups (20 to 44, 45 to 65, and over 65) and in both men and women, Central American countries had the highest mortality rate associated with sugary drinks. China and Japan had the lowest in all those categories.
The range of consumption varied, from less than one serving per day in Chinese women older than 65 to more than five servings per day in Cuban men younger than 45.
East/Central Eurasia had the largest number of cardiovascular deaths (11,000) in 2010 related to the consumption of sugar-sweetened beverages, while Latin America/Caribbean had the most diabetes deaths (38,000).
"Because we were focused on deaths due to chronic diseases, our study focused on adults. Future research should assess the amount of sugary beverage consumption in children across the world and how this affects their current and future health," researchers said.
The study was funded by the National Institute of Diabetes and Digestive and Kidney Diseases and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation.
One co-author reported relationships with GlaxoSmithKline, Sigma Tau, Pronova, International Life Sciences Institute, Bunge, SPRIM, Pollock Institute, Nutrition Impact, Foodminds, McKinsey Health Systems Institute, and Unilever North America.
http://www.medpagetoday.com/Cardiology/Diabetes/37988
I love New York but am so SICK of Bloomberg trying to decide everybody's everything for everyone.
From oil to salt to sugar to smokes I think most of them make SENSE but really I can't wait until he is out of office.
I'm surprise he hasn't tried to pass a one kid per family rule. I'm glad his soda rule failed hell I'd just buy two medium sodas and drink them just to **** him off. THAT is not going to help with obesity. Maybe some PARKS would so they kids would get off their ***** and PLAY.
From oil to salt to sugar to smokes I think most of them make SENSE but really I can't wait until he is out of office.
I'm surprise he hasn't tried to pass a one kid per family rule. I'm glad his soda rule failed hell I'd just buy two medium sodas and drink them just to **** him off. THAT is not going to help with obesity. Maybe some PARKS would so they kids would get off their ***** and PLAY.
As I am sitting here drinking a giant Mountain Dew (diet, so it probably doesn't count) and contemplating taking up a career in smoking cigarettes, I am thinking about moving to New York.....
(Just kidding about the cigarette smoking career. Oh, and the New York thing... not happening for this guy.)
(Just kidding about the cigarette smoking career. Oh, and the New York thing... not happening for this guy.)
"I have no problem with putting smokes in the back room with the porn. Neither should be available to children."
Yup...I agree!
Yup...I agree!
We agree! We agree!
It seems that social issues are the way to go these days. I have no problem with putting smokes in the back room with the porn. Neither should be available to children. But some common sense and moderation are in order for the sugary drinks from restaurants imo. That just doesnt solve anything as far as I can tell.
Hahahaha!
Oh my God. I've got to say that I am impressed that he isn't having veterinarians performing little vasectomies and hysterectomies.
go after the rat infestation or something, guy.
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LOL He is!!
Forced birth control! I love it.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-15/new-york-is-sterilizing-its-rats-dot-heres-how
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LOL He is!!
Forced birth control! I love it.
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-03-15/new-york-is-sterilizing-its-rats-dot-heres-how
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