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163305 tn?1333668571

Police behaving badly.. . again

McKINNEY, Texas — The organizer of a pool party in Texas where a police officer's interactions with a 15-year-old girl were caught on video, said Sunday the police officer had "no reason" to act the way he did.

The seven-minute YouTube video shows Cpl. Eric Casebolt using profanity and aggressively throwing a 15-year-old girl in a bathing suit to the ground, face down. He then appeared to pin her down with his knees.

"He was just aggressive for no reason at all," said Tatyana Rhodes, one of the party's organizers. "It was horrible."

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/06/08/texas-police-officer-reaction-pool-party/28673177/
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973741 tn?1342342773
yes, and I appreciate that.  
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163305 tn?1333668571
You and I know that we share a respectfulness even when we don't agree :)
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973741 tn?1342342773
Agree to some extent that if the mother was there, she should have been part of the situation.  Do you think they were worried about an escalating situation with other kids?  I don't know.

I remember being a teen too . . .   and I have a tween right now.  Making someone at that stage of their life feel heard while instilling the things you hope they understand for a lifetime is a difficult task.  Allowing them freedom to be who they are without squashing their soul as they make the inevitable screw ups that this age is known for, also difficult.

But to me, there are basic things in life and respect for authority is one of them.  I was brought up that way.  

If the girl had done what she was told immediately, what would the outcome have been?  Ya know?  

I'm frankly really glad to hear her mother was there.  Perhaps this indicates that she has an involved parent that will help her understand how SHE could have also done things differently.  

The policeman was in the wrong.  Don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying he wasn't.  But I have a problem with out of control teen behavior and how this kind of press makes them victims so easily when I just don't always think that is the case.  They need to respect authority.  

Anyway, orphanedhawk, just my opinion.  :>)  
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163305 tn?1333668571
I do agree with you about a lot of kids not being respectful. It's a problem with over-spoiled children who aren't taught either responsibility or that the world doesn't revolve around them.
On the other hand, I do remember being a teen and feeling like adults just didn't and couldn't understand.

As far as this girl goes, her mother was at the pool with her and she kept asking for her ! The cop should have talked with the mother, and/or other adults responsible for the party, not pushed a teenage girl to the ground.
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Predictability isn't Per se a bad thing. Sarcasm, on the other ha and, tends to wear thin.
I find you very predictable too. But, I don't dislike you just because I can anticipate your response.
When you speak the truth base men will avoid you.
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Predictability isn't Per se a bad thing. Sarcasm, on the other ha and, tends to wear thin.
I find you very predictable too. But, I don't dislike you just because I can anticipate your response.
When you speak the truth base men will avoid you.
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Racist
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Easy answer, because you are white.
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People need to take a bit of responsibility when dealing with the cops.  Same as one would do when dealing with a "bad guy".  You do what's necessary to survive.  You DONT do things that will get you killed.  Seems really simple to me.  You can't expect everyone to be looking out for you or having your best interest first in their minds.

You don't have to obey anyone.  You're an adult and can act and do as you please but you owe it to yourself to understand that there are going to be repercussions for nearly everything you do.  

I've had the misfortune of dealing with the police many times both professionally and as a citizen.  At any time, I could have chosen to not follow directives and therefore put myself in a compromised position.  I chose not to do that and have never been shot, thrown to the ground, unjustly cuffed, choked, or beaten with a billy club.  Why do you think that is?
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973741 tn?1342342773
Mike, you need to work on your sarcastic comments.  They've gotten really predictable.

I agree the police officer was out of line in this case but my comments are directed to the idea that listening to police is something teens shouldn't do, that police are like the gestapo.  That's just . . .   well, whatever.  WAY over the top.  

If my kids are acting foolish, getting the attention of police and then have some kind of attitude with them-------  I FAILED as a parent.  

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Well, obviously the cop was put in his place - right off the force.
And that's the way it should be too.
The guy was out of control as anyone could clearly see - if they could actually see, that is.
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You were 100% on with that first comment. The police here are not telling people to come with them to a secret place, or things like that. The police officer came upon a mob of young adults who were not supposed to be there and did not listen to the direction he was giving in order to regain control of the situation.
Police officer was made a scapegoat when he was 100% justified in his actions. The bikini girl was not hurt but was shown if you fail to respect someone of authority you will be put in your place.
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973741 tn?1342342773
Okay, that was a tiny bit crabby.  But I really am disgusted by teens and how they act.  The police officer overreacted.  That I agree. But I don't agree that we should live in a country in which we don't have absolute authority figures.  The gestapo comparison was way over the top.  
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973741 tn?1342342773
Oh my goodness.  Fascism?  Comparing police officers to the gestapo in Nazi Germany is quite the stretch.  Really, thank goodness for law and order in my opinion.  

Frankly, I was at the pool this week and there was a group of teenagers I wish I could have let have it.  And I tell you what, if you are under 18 and I tell you to do something or not to do something, I expect teens to listen to me because I'm an adult.  No, my kids shouldn't listen to an adult who tells them to get in the car but if they tell them to sit down and shut their out of line mouths, they better do it.  

Law, rules and order.  Oh yeah, and respect.  Our country really does need more of this from what I observe.  The current generation of teens is a pretty scary bunch.  Hope at least some of them can provide for themselves someday.  Or believe that they are supposed to.  

My kids respect authority or at least they better or they might need the police to protect them from . . .   ME!
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163305 tn?1333668571
The cop apologized saying he was stressed from two suicide calls earlier. Obviously he realized he over did it but putting this girl on the ground.

What bothers me is the assumption that we all have to obey any orders from the police whether they are legal or inline or not. That sounds like the gestapo from Nazi Germany and it's all those horrible films that I saw of that time as a kid growing up that scares me when I see fascism in this county and part of that fascism is the militarization of the police.
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I guess, but that seems irrelevant to me.  What she was not doing is following orders.  You can certainly do that, but you have to be aware that there are probably going to be some repercussions.  

By no means am I defending the cop, rather trying to be objective.  We don't know a lot of information.  Do we know or have the information on the call out to this cop?  We cant see what's happening off camera, but there were witnesses saying that there were fights off camera.  At least for a while, this looks like one cop amongst a lot of other people, who got called out because of some kind of fight....

Just because she was wearing a bikini and "obviously" not hiding a weapon does not mean she wasn't causing problems.  it doesn't mean that she was just an innocent bystander.

This is very anecdotal, but years ago I restrained an individual who punched one of my doormen at the club I managed.  When I restrained this individual, he was doing all he could to hurt other people after punching a doorman and he was trying to hurt me.  I put him to sleep for a minute.  When the cops arrived, they simply let the guy go and didn't listen to any of the eyewitness accounts.  They just sent the drunk meth head back to his motel room.

Hours later they had to go arrest the guy because he'd destroyed his motel room causing $2000 worth of damage and tried to fight the female front desk clerk.

When the cops showed up initially, here was the small meth head being handled by someone much larger, much more sober and trained to deal with drunken people standing over him.  I'd rolled him on his side and patted him between the shoulder blades in order to give him a 'jump start' which sometimes is necessary when you make someone take an unauthorized nap....  cops saw a big guy over a little guy and sent him home.  I think its interesting what one can take away from this anecdote.
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163305 tn?1333668571
I think the bikini was mentioned to show she obviously wasn't hiding a weapon.
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I don't get the bikini thing either.  What is the relevance?  It was a pool party, correct?  
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649848 tn?1534633700
I'm trying really hard to figure out what the bikini has to do with the whole thing... She's 14 yrs old and stupid, but shouldn't be so stupid as to ignore the cops; does the bikini make her more stupid? Or does she think that because she's half naked she isn't subject to the rules of everyone else?  She was a nice looking young girl and maybe she thought that would do ti for her... In my younger days, I wore a bikini, but I don't recall that it gave me a right to ignore the police or anyone else of real authority...

So now I'm wondering what she's going to think in a few years when she sees these clips on YouTube or whatever medium is available then... is she going to realize how dumb she looked, like some back in the 60's do now, or is she forever going to see herself as a victim?  Unfortunately, unless things change, it will probably be the latter.
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Her age does not give her permission to not listen to the cops.  It does however explain the stupidity and the inability to take responsibility for things she says and does.  
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206807 tn?1331936184
I started to reply then realized, why bother?
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163305 tn?1333668571
She was 14 years old ! Not an adult, you silly.

I would think she was scared senseless. If it'd been me at that time in my life, I'd have been in tears.
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1310633 tn?1430224091
So if there are cops on the scene giving me a hard time, and I'm calling for my mommy, that gives me a right to NOT listen to the cops?

And if I'm wearing a bikini, doubly so?

I don't understand what her calling for her mom, and her wearing a bikini, have to do with anything.
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Cameras do not tell the whole story.

Another version of the story says that there was a fight that broke out just off screen to the right.  The fight had been broken up before and this girl was trying to intervene at the same time the cop was trying to break the fight up.  

if there is any truth to that story, this girl was out of line.  Don't interfere.  

When it comes to dealing with the cops, everyone needs to be smart enough to know that the situation can go in any direction and what you say or do can be the deciding factor.  Be accountable for what you do and what you say.  do everything you can to remove yourself and any wrong doing on your part from the situation.  Self perseverance...  You owe it to yourself to know and understand this.

Do not confuse perceived rights with outright stupidity.
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