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Why vote?

http://www.knoxclerk.org/WhyVote.htm

Man, I really do appreciate everyone's enthusiasm regarding the right to vote!  Everyone here seems real fired up about the process and what the future potentially holds for all of us.  But as I've sat here (the last few months specifically) I've seen almost everyone bad mouth someone, I've seen people call other people names, I've seen "news sources" called more valid than another and some called outright junk.  I've seen people feel good about the fact that their candidate "lies less than the other guys candidate does".  I've seen all of that and more negativity.... I've seen intelligent deny the fact that "facts" are often cherry picked.  I've seen the news become more and more biased.  I've seen the news turn more into "entertainment" or a reality show rather than being true journalism based solely on fact.  I've seen peoples opinions being completely discredited while people try to over validate their own opinion.  I've seen opinion stated as fact and I've been asked to believe that.  

Does anyone really feel good about this country and where its headed?  If so, why all of the doom and gloom?  Why are we being forced to choose between 2 candidates which a lot of people here have called "neither parties best choices"?  Why are we so willing to vote for one candidate simply because he is not the "other guy"?  

Personally, I find all of that pitiful.  Not to sound like a "glass half empty" kind of guy, but I honestly feel that this country is in a lot of trouble and it doesn't necessarily have anything to do with socioeconomical status, religion, or our rights. I feel as if I have the opportunity to vote for "not so good" and "not so good either".  To me, that stinks.

Happy voting people!
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"Why are we being forced to choose between 2 candidates which a lot of people here have called "neither parties best choices"?

This may not be a shock to you, but I speak for myself when I say I believe the President IS the best choice for the Democratic Party....

Why are we so willing to vote for one candidate simply because he is not the "other guy"?  

My vote is FOR Barack Obama not AGAINST Mitt Romney..I've been FOR the President and his policies before Romney was ever relevant to the Presidential race. He has shown ME that he can handle the country and I'd rather keep on FORWARD than potentially go backwards....Romney just solidified my vote FOR the President with some of his EXTREME views and policies that WILL potentially effect me and my family if Mitt Romney is elected.

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Ugh.  Depressing Brice.

What can you do? Times are hard and this is the situation.  I still vote enthusiastically because it is part of being American.  I enjoy the right even when the circumstances aren't great.  
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BTW I vote because women and African American Leaders fought their a$$ off for me to be able to vote. For that I am ETERNALLY grateful and will ALWAYS exercise my right to vote.
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Yes, I vote because I enjoy the right as well.  And I want to say that i was never one who said that I was voting for Romney just to rid us of Obama.  But if that is why some pick Romney, so be it.  Or if making sure Romney doesn't take office so they vote Obama, then so be it.  ??  I just hope in the end we can come together.  I still try to remain hopeful about that even when there are definate signs that this won't happen.  
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My vote was for America and American ideals, and against what I feel is not in the countries best interest.

I think it goes without saying, that if you vote FOR someone and their ideals & policies, that automatically has you voting AGAINST the other guy and the policies they represent.

Unfortunately, both of them have parts right & wrong, and if they'd put their heads together on the good stuff, and toss out the bad stuff, we'd have the perfect president.

I think Amanda (adgal) said it in another comment... the best person for the job is a COMBINATION of Romney & Obama, not either one of them separately.

Obama taken by himself... FAIL.
Romney taken by himself... FAIL (not as big a fail, but still a fail)

Combine their policies and compromise... you have the makings of a decent President.
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"Why are we being forced to choose between 2 candidates which a lot of people here have called "neither parties best choices"?"  I'm one who has said that I don't think either of these candidates are best for the country.  

"This may not be a shock to you, but I speak for myself when I say I believe the President IS the best choice for the Democratic Party...."  No, it wasn't a shock at all........... lol    My question is this:  you think the President is the best choice for the Democratic Party; what about the rest of us who don't happen to be Democrats...... once elected, the President represents ALL American citizens, not just his party, his race, his religion.  I know there has to be someone who would be able to work across the aisle for the good of ALL of the American people, not just a particular set of people.

I know some think that President Obama has done that, but the truth is, while he might have tried, he didn't succeed, whether it was his fault or not.  If Romney wins (which is doubtful), he's going to have the same trouble with the Senate as the President had with the House.  

The American people can't win until the politicians stop playing politics.

All of that being said, I still exercised my right to cast a vote.
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You'll always exercise your right to vote, even though the electoral college, which your vote has nothing to do with, has the final say?
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Good point on the "the best candidate for the democratic party".  
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I voted to keep Ryan as far from the white house as possible and for some state propositions, namely prop 37, GMO labeling of food.
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Whose phone is ringing off the hook today?  yeesh, I've gotten no less than 10 calls today about who to vote for.  Hello . . .  I'm done voting now and just ready to watch the fall out.  It WILL be nice to have all of the ads/phone calls come to an end, won't it??  At least we all can agree on that.  
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"  you think the President is the best choice for the Democratic Party; what about the rest of us who don't happen to be Democrats...... once elected, the President represents ALL American citizens, not just his party, his race, his religion.  I know there has to be someone who would be able to work across the aisle for the good of ALL of the American people, not just a particular set of people."

I was simply answering brice's question from my perspective and for myself. I'm not speaking for anyone except for myself....I do believe he IS the best for the democratic party and so do the democrats. We picked him in Iowa over Hilary in 2007......IMO the President does represent ALL Americans when it comes to moving this country forward. We all want that....Some that don't believe the same are out there and that's fine...The President is willing and has clearly shown he can work across the aisle. I'm not here to change any one's opinion in who they support or what their political beliefs are,  I'm just here to speak for myself and show my support for the President....
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That's cool.  I wish more WERE excited about their choice.  I feel good about mine and cast my vote with pride.  I like to hear (believe it or not) from either side that is really pro their guy.  
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Not to bring everyone down, but I don't get feeling good about this.  That's my opinion people, and you can feel wonderful about whatever it is that you want to feel good about.

To me?  WHOOOOPTY DOOOOOO!   I voted for some guy who says he knows what I am going though.  I voted for some guy who said he will make the country a better place (something that they cannot do).  

To me, voting for the President is about as useful as voting for the "best news anchor".  It's not going to make a difference.
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"Why vote?"

To cheerfully and proudly vote against people like Mitch McConell, who stated after the 2008 election that Republicans' job was not to work with Democrats to get things accomplished, but to devote all their energy to making the President fail.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed-news/7239332-minority-leader-mcconnell-says-gop-goal-is-to-make-obama-fail

"Republican Minority leader, Mitch McConnellMitch McConnell said, "The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president,"

Sorry, not to have a better link that includes the full quote. Back to work.
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I agree with you completely.

Mike
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Hopefully, Mitch McConnell got the picture last night!...It is a new America and they will need to cooperate...
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Is McConnell gone?  Problem not solved....
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Well that's why Mitch, John Boehner and the repubs in the house need to regroup and focus on what's really important which is the economy, fiscal cliff, immigration...They need to be really careful in the way these next 4 years go. They cannot continue to vow to not cooperate with the President. last nights election proved that the American people want BOTH sides to cooperate with THIS president...The ball is in their court...
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I was just speaking of the relevance of McConnell.  If he was such a threat last time, why not now?  Certainly he doesn't want to risk another democratic President 4 years down the road....  I think this would give him more steam for more obstruction.

But McConnell is one of the guys I was talking about (somewhere around here) in regards to political shelf life.  (Especially on the national front)  Take someone like Reid on the other side.  He somehow keeps getting elected and the guy is got to be pushing 80.... he just got reelected and I think has 5 years left???  

We need to get people in DC with their own minds, but the system makes us hard pressed to get that done.
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