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Dental Crown Problems CEREC

I had a cracked Molar (with a large older filling) that caused absolutely no pain, and I was told I needed a Dental Crown. I was never informed that a root canal may need to be done after or any complications involved with a Crown. I had the crown done 2 weeks ago (permanent one office visit) and have had problems ever since, jaw pain, tooth sensitivity, after 5 adjustments, this is ridiculous.
Ive used all my insurance money on the stupid crown and if my dentist is going to recommend a root canal and anther crown I am going to lose it.

What happens if they just pull the tooth? You can't see it, its in the back. Do you have to have a crown or bridge?


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Pulling teeth is not recommended because they don't grow back.  The molar must not be that cracked or they would have extracted it.

Dear Friend,
I have written a short story which I send to everyone who comes looking for help in terms of dental problems.  First paragraph concerns the source of dental problems, the rest details natural remedies for relief.

I have had a number of experiences, from basic cavities, fillings, to replacement of metal fillings with plastic, root canals, infections, extractions, and now contemplating implants.   I wish my parents had shown me their dental problems and given me very intelligent warnings about keeping my teeth.  But they didn't.  Neither did my grandparents, aunts, uncles, school teachers, boy scout leaders, church pastor, best friends, etc, etc.  What my mother did do for the family was keep the kitchen cupboard stocked with cookies, famous cereals, ice cream in the freezer, a different cake every week with sugary icing, and chocolate rabbits for Easter.  Thats only part of the list of sweet foods that made me a sugar addict.  Once I got to natural foods I found honey and dates to help my cavities.

You may find that dentists do not spend any time counceling their patients relative to the things that cause tooth and root decay, or how to get free from it.  Why should they when they make money from dental disease.  The primary cause of dental problems is diet, and no amount of dental work can stop the decay process. They just keep patching them.  Once injured, teeth do not heal.   Unless a person changes their diet, getting rid of all the decay producing sweets, they will continue going through the dentist process;  cavities, fillings, more fillings, splitting teeth, root canals, infections, gum disease, root scaling, extractions, bridges, implants and all the rest until dentures.  And thats not the end... dental procedures cause aging trauma.  A pulled tooth can result in numb toes, an overdose of anesthesia can last for two weeks and cause stomach problems.  Root canals and dental infections can affect heart rate.   Antibiotics can problem digestion.  The answer is to do everything possible to stay away from dentist offices.  Eat whole foods and not food products, especially the sweet ones that factories put on supermarket shelves to take your money and give you disease.  Then again, you will find native peoples (Dani of West Papua) who eat a lot of sweet potatoes have significant dental problems, so its not just any whole food, and teeth cleaning practices are essential.  Those who use drugs or alcohol are also jeopardizing their teeth, future health, and happiness.

As for solutions to pain, infection, or abcesses... It is far more economical to test natural remedies before going through the repetoir of procedures that dentists will recommend to their patients.  These remedies are very basic, beneficial, and do not interfere with the dentists prescriptions.  First remedial action is to dump the sweets from your life.  It may not be easy and can take time, but it is the only way to escape the dental drill.  Second immediate action is to try relieving pain, abcesses, and infection with salt water, calcium, oregano, oil, onion juice, and cabbage.  

Rinsing ones mouth with salt in warm water is often recommended by dentists after dental work as salt promotes healing.  Seawater can also be used as a mouth wash, but you really have to be living near a national park to find it clean enough.

Calcium is the primary mineral in all of our physcial processes and it relieves pain.  Rubbing an aspirin sized amount on your gums is the fastest path to the nerves of the teeth. Of course you can take recommended dosages as a supplement and that may help. Too much calcium will give headaches and cramps.

People trained in modern technology tend to have doubts about using natural cures.  But when the professionals run out of answers, or their answers don't work, the only option is to look elsewhere.  Oregano was determined as the herb with the greatest antibiotic power in 1910.  Seasoning from the grocery shelf is fine.  Bring a pint of water to a boil and turn it off.  Place a tablespoon of oregano leaves in it.  As soon as cool enough to drink begin sipping it.  Effects take place quickly, yet, an infected root needs a few days of this therapy to get anywhere.  A person who is really determined to beat the dentist may have to just relax and nurse that tooth, drinking the tea, eating just cabbage and raw onions.  You can find recommendations for using oregano oil for toothache elsewhere on the net.  

The ancient Egyptians wrote that onions cure 8000 diseases.  They are an amazing cleanser for the body, having pungent vitamin C in them.  Blend half a small onion with a stick of celery in a cup of water.  Drink slowly.  It can help reduce swelling of infections.

Cabbage is regarded as having anticarcinogenic chemistry, but they are good for satisfying appetite during infections, and when one is giving up sweets.  It would be far better to be chided for eating cabbage all the time than to lose a single tooth.  Make a day of eating a single large cabbage, or use the leaves for wrapping other greens and vegetables.  Fresh dark greens are the cure for many physical problems especially infections.  To really break infections anywhere in the body one must stop eating everything other than greens.  And when you can't stand it anymore have a banana and a raw piece of steak.  Doing this reinforces the immune system against infectious bacteria, which are adapting to antibiotics.

The reason abcesses showed up in the first place is due to diet.  Too much sweet whatever it is.  The answer to counteract sweet abcesses is green cabbage, as well as onion juice, and every other fresh vegetable juice you can think of.  Greens are rich in chlorophyl which builds red blood cells and promotes cell cleansing.  

Most recent advice coming around is oil pulling.  Swishing a teapspoon of virgin coconut oil in mouth as long as possible.  As this seems to relieve pain it probably nourishes roots and gums.

If diet is not corrected no amount of dental work can help.  Fasting can be essential to changing diet as the body cleanses and renews in spirit. When a person feels the positive effects of seven days of just liquids they are more inclined to give up detrimental substances.  Study and follow guidelines for successful fasting.

Good Luck.
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when a tooth is pulled the remaining teeth shift and can cause chewing problems. also there can be bone loss in the toothless areas. the remaining teeth have to deal with the extra pressure of chewing and can sometimes crack. the degree of such problems differ from person to person and can not be predicted. the dentist can usually drill through the existing crown for a root canal without any problems other than it might not be as pretty.
also a healthy diet is a wonderful thing but sugar does not cause infections, swishing anything can not help tooth roots and there is no replacement for regular dental care.
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Well.. I went back to get this 5th adjustment today and the Dentist did some tapping, sensitivity tests etc...then went back and did some drilling for my bite.  He explained that my nerve seems ok, though he thinks if i continue to have pain over the next few weeks when chewing still that I may need to have the crown redone. Since I have a localized pain in part of the tooth only when chewing, he thinks that a portion of the bonding may have failed. AND I MAY NEED TO HAVE THE CROWN TAKEN OFF AND REDONE?

Do I trust this guy to do another CEREC Crown? I guess I don't really want to,  but since he wont be charging me I have no choice, just scary to have another crown done and what if my tooth gets jacked up  from all this work and  i need  a root canal. ALso this dentist supposedly has good credentials and noone Ive talked to says he has had any negative feedback.

All this because of a little chip on the side of my molar filling.
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well at least the additional work is free and if it is just a bonding issue the odds are slim the problem will happen twice. there is always a risk of injuring a nerve but it sounds like you have to do something. all my crowns have been gold so i cant give you much info about cerec ones. good luck!
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good luck. i am saving up for an implant they are the best form of restoration.
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Yes, at least he is doing all the re work for free.   This is the same reason I went to my dentist that you did.   A piece broke off of one of my molars and it was a large silver filling.   He suggested to do both molars at once.  

My dentist told me for months there was nothing wrong with number 18 or 19 crowns he put on my teeth.   He even told me I did not need root canals when I did.

I suffered for months trying to get answers and found medhelp.org on line.

3066.60 is what I had to pay for re work by a specialist for two crowns that were inferior and caused hyper occlusion.    I did end up with two root canals also.

Your lucky, you must have found a great dentist in your area who cares about people in pain. my dentist tried to blame me for the problem he could not find and did not even offer to send me to a specialist.

A dentist once told me (a special dentist), he told me they are taught in dental school and are told "Listen to your patients, they will tell you what is wrong."

He told me the only reason I wanted to remove the crown was because I didn't like the way it looked.   He stated he could put a smaller one on, but it would jeopardize my nerve.   To my surprise, guess what my nerve at the time had already been jeopardized.  

The endodontist who did my root canals stated he couldn't see how I had left one of the crowns on for so long, that I had to have been in pain.  I told him, I had been but the original dentist stated nothing was wrong, telling me I was causing the problem.

hope everything goes well for you.


I am in the process of having a bone graft done in a tooth (molar) that had to be pulled.
One of the same dentist's crowns that were too high of course. This one had to be adjusted clear down to the metal.

After all the money I spent to have a crown put on it almost 4years ago, It had to be replaced. The prosthodontist was taking the impression to fit me for a restoration, he came across something.  My bone was low on one side.  Here I had a fractured tooth that the original dentist put a crown over.  I knew it was fractured, but I didn't think the dentist would have put a crown over a fractured tooth that he thought would cause me more problems down the road. according to his website he was the greatest.

This fractured tooth let bacteria get into my bone I guess.  So after this bone graft heals, I guess I'll go for the implant.    Teeth cost a lot of money, but I am told also that it is better to keep your teeth or have implants done if have to be pulled.

Good Luck.



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I had a cerec crown put in.  I am miserable with this thing.  I have other traditional crowns and have no problems.  As soon as I can find another dentist, I am having it replaced.  That tooth is sensitive and I have had 2 root canals done it.  My tongue goes numb on and off and I have a metallic taste in my mouth.  All this started when the crown was put in.  Bah humbug!  My dentist said you can't be allergic to cerec, but he is wrong.  Not everyone is compatible with everything.
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i also had 2 cerec crowns placed and have since had sensitivity and pain at those sites.  I have had metal taste also but thought it was just me.  Ive been going back to the dentist for numerous reshapings but this has not helped.  I never had these problems with less expensive crowns !!!
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Runrchk-
Did your cerac crowns resolve.
I have had to pull one of my teeth with a cerac crown and now the other one is very painful.
Everything I read says they are hypoallergenic, but I'm beginning to think that they aren't.
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I had a Celec done last summer and it is the first of 5 capped teeth that I have had any problem with.

I don't believe the computer generated cap can fit as well as a cap from a mold.  The pain is agrevating and only is there in the morning when I wake.  I believe from a poor bite and I have been back to the dentist several times to have the cap sanded down. My dentist sent me to a specialist saying I need a crown.  The specialist said it was a guessing game if I really needed it. :O   I said no, as I have been told that with every crown and never need a single one before.  I'm still looking for answers!
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Stop eating everything other than greens???  How would you get things like protein and licopene??? Supplements?  Not a good idea to deliberately replace foods with supplements.
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I have 2 cerecs.  First one no trouble.  It's on a smaller-looking wisdom tooth.  Last one on a 6-yr. old molar (first large molar).  Pain lasted one year, then went away.  However I have what seems to be "traveling tooth sensitivity" on all crowned molars, both cerec and traditional porcelain.  
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