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Dental Implant Rejection - Twice

I have attempted (2) DENTAL IMPLANTS and have had (2) IMPLANT rejections. With my first implant, my DENTIST thought that the implant's threads were too small thus not grabbing enough bone so a month or two later he retried the implant with another implant with larger grooves that that one seemed to set better, more securely and after a two week visit it seemed to be doing fine because XRAYS showed bone growing aound it at it was suppose to. However, with in a few days after the follow up visit (about 2 weeks after it was installed) the tooth shifted and I thought that the temporary crown was loose on top of the implant stem, there was no pain, no bleeding, nothing so I didn't feel alarmed and went three more weeks like this until I felt that it was too loose. When I made an emergency appointment my dnetist imformed me that I had rejected a second implant and he was able to manually remove the implant WITHOUT me even feeling it. My Dentist suggested that maybe I grind my teeth some in my sleep which could have disturbed the implant which allowed tissue to grow in between the grooves or maybe my BODY simply rejected the implant twice.

Let me state that I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE in my DENTIST'S COMPETENCY and DO NOT believe or think in the slightest that his technique has caused ANY of these REJECTIONS.

My QUESTION what are the REJECTION SCENARIOS? How could I IMPLANT that is SCREWED TIGHTLY into my BONE allow tissue to get in there? I'm a VERY HEALTHY eater, I workout 3-4 days a week, played college football and though I've had a couple of broken bones, I've never had a problem with brittle bones.

Could my body be rejecting the TITANIUM MATERIAL? I'm just BAFFLED and and want to know what CAUSE this because I wil try ONE MORE TIME and I need to know what NOT TO DO the NEXT TIME.

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I had my implant (front tooth) removed today due to soft bone. I had a bone graft back in May 2015 which was left to heal for a few months, then my Dentist tried an implant but he wasn't happy with it so removed it immediately and replaced it with a bigger one. He stitched up the Gum and left it to heal for 4 months. He did a Bone density test today. I should have a score of 50 for the implant to hold. I had a score of 70 on one side and 25 on the other.
He wasn't happy with this my score so he removed the implant and said he will try again in 6 weeks time with a different type of implant. I really can't see this working a second time. Does anyone know what my chances of success are and also, what options do I have should it fail?
I really don't want to get a Bridge as I have been extremely unlucky in the past regarding dental work and I really don't want to compromise two healthy teeth.  
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Hello from Slovenia-EU,

Here is my story if someone needs information about titanium implants.
I become very ill 8 years ago. My life was like vegetation. I researched around all Europe and USA to found doctor or person who can help me.
After 3 years when I totally exchange my lifestyle I found reason for my problems, It vas silver fillings. After 2 years extreme detoxify – I am lucky that I had support from Dr. Andrew Cutler, one of the best doctor in the world for amalgam detoxify – I got 50 % of my life and my health back. But not all.  First I thought that maybe my body is damaged from 15 years of 7 amalgams filling. Than I was shocked when I got information about titanium problems. I had 3 titanium implants with 5 zirconium teeth on. Doctors in my country have told me that titanium is not case for my problems. At that time my problem was:
headache, sinusitis, bleeding gums, pain in the left hand - side where they were implants, problems with vision, problems with memory, great fatigue, without energy, pain in the area of implants, gastro problems. Doctors in my country said that they can’t take out titanium implants safety and that I will have problems with bone after operation. But I investigate a lot again and I got a lot of information from all the world. Some information was useful some not like in every case. But I had lucky again and I got contact about Dr. Shumantov. In my health story I met more that 300 doctors from around the world but I can say that Dr. Shumantov is one of the best doctor and person which I know. He operates in USA and couple of time every year at Europe. I decided that I go to Sofia where he operates in Europe. I was very happy with his professionalism. He told me everything about titanium and what he will do, before operation and I was shocked how easy he removed 3 titanium implants with reverse system. All 3 implants took out in 40 minutes. After that he put new bone material and I come every day to control. After 7 days I go back to my country. Now after 8 month I can tell you: My only mistake was that because of my scary what doctor in Slovenia said, I didn’t take titanium implants out before. In the meantime they disappeared almost everyone my problems which I had before that operation. No headache, no sinusitis, no bleeding gums, no pain in the left hand - side where they were implants, no problems with vision, no pain in the area of implants. It is truth that I still have some energy and tired problems but I think that my body after all problems with amalgam and titanium need more time to recover. Maybe some problems will stay but  8 year ago my life was vegetation; today I got 80 % my life back and totally new way of life. My next part of operation is put zirconium implants in. My story was broadcast on Slovenian TV. I wish that all of you can solve problems with health and especially with teeth. And believe me: Dentist can destroy your life. If you wish more information and contact of Dr. Shumantov you can contact me.
Igor from Slovenia
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Igor, thank you so much for sharing your story. It was highly-detailed and eloquently-told. I also found that, personally: it provided much useful information, hope & guidance, as well as comfort that I’m not alone (and that I’m not crazy) as I go through my own implant journey. Sending you many blessings & thanks from the USA!
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hello. I fractured a tooth, and it was a horrible experience for me as I had to loose it. I was pushed into getting an implant. My body rejected it the first time after 2 weeks, simply spat it out. I told the dentists that I did not want to do this again, I felt I was allergic to the galvanic currents coming from the titanium. They insisted that I try this again with a bone graft. Another 5 months with a composite as tooth was lower front. Then implant.. Pain started immediately in neighboring tooth as it was placed too close. Pain increased, then all of a sudden other tooth on other side, which had never had anything done to it started crying out with pain. Dentists were baffled. I told them it was galvanic currents from titanium. They insisted that I was wrong, did 2 unnecessary root canals on neighboring teeth. Pain got WORSE after... Finally they accepted to take the implant OUT of me.. Pain subsided in 1 tooth, the other one had inflamed periodontal ligament. All teeth became sensitive as well... NIGHTMARE, 16.5 months of my life! Now they are doing a ceramic bridge!!!! NOW after all of this... total cost $10000 for ONE fractured tooth. You should NEVER push an implant on a patient who is holistic unless the implant is made of ZIRCONIUM which they use in Europe. I had 5 surgeries!!!! So much pain and suffering for nothing..
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Implant is being overloaded. Any movement of implant causes the bone graft not to integrate with your bone. Implant should be buried and left alone for several months till it integrates, then restored after it is soundly in place.
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If the implant has a crown installed on it straight away you are asking for trouble,

Mine is in there for 3.5 months before the crown gets installed, by which time it should be fully integrated.

  = Adam
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Im having the same problem . I had 4 implants upper jaw after waiting 6 months after bone grafting.  All looked well, then pain, tremendous pain and loosening of implant, came out in my hand. Second one came out days later.  Dentist suggested we wait a few months and do it again.

Had 2 implants redone..One is loose as of today!!!  Im not sure if Im rejecting or grind my teeth at night..This has cost me $12,000!  I too feel my dentist is an above board guy.  Just not sure what to do next, I have an appt on Friday.  Im really afraid!
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Hi, just wondering were you able to resolve this issue? My first implant attempt has failed and I'm due to get a second implant done in March.
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Perhaps the stress from grinding on the neighboring teeth is interrupting the implant integration.  Having the bone "pull back" away from the implant sounds like it would most likely come from implant micromovement.

How do you solve that?  You would need something to keep ALL pressure from the implant area and at least the neighboring two teeth while integration takes place.  Micromovement from them may be interrupting the healing process.  
Perhaps your dentist can fashion a mouth guard so the neighboring teeth cannot grind against one another and shift back and forth.

Please let us know how you do.  I hope it is successful for you.

My very best to you,
Gellia
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Hi,

I have recently had a similar experience.  15 years ago I had a dental implant in my lower jaw.  It has been successful.  The device was by Calcitech(?) and uses a calcium coating on the titanium.  In that time Calcitech is no longer in business.  My dentist that installed the device has since retired.  I now need to replace 3 of my upper molars.  Number 1 was installed last year.  There was a 4 month period for the bone graft to properly provide supporting bone material before the implant.  A month later after the 1st bone graft, I had a second extraction that required bone grafting.  This was number 2.  We then implanted the 1st device.  After a week the preliminary examination was very positive.  Then a week later I was able to manually pull the device out, it was that loose.  We believed at the time that it was a failure in the device.  At that time, we put additional bone grafting material in that position.  3 months later, we installed an implant device for number 2.  Again, the 1 week post-implant exam was very positive.  However, within 4 days the implant was feeling loose and my dentist was able to manually extract it with no difficulty.  His evaluation of the device was that there was tissue in the grooves but that the bone material had pulled back.  In both cases, there was no crown installed, just the implant, so while I do grind my teeth, there was no pressure on the implant from that source.  I trust my dentist.  I want to try again.  Like you I want to maximize the chances of success.  Want to hear from anyone that can shed light on this.
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First let me say I am not a dental professional.  I am in the medical field, however.  

I think it unlikely that you are rejecting the titanium itself.  It's not impossible, but exceedingly rare.  If that is a concern, you can be tested for titanium allergies.

If you clench or grind your teeth, that can be a great problem.  Did your dentist use a bone graft when the implant was placed?  Also, was it allowed to integrate before the temp. crown was placed?  From your letter, it sounds as though this was an immediate loading implant (one that has a temp crown placed right away and functioning while healing).

All of these can make a difference in the implants success.  Getting a temporary crown on a freshly placed implant may not be to your advantage.  Can you use a "flipper" instead?  One that does not touch the implant while it heals?  

There are also different widths of implants along with the deeper grooved ones.  They also have ones that expand with wings, I think.  It depends on where it is being placed.

I really hope you have success with your third try.  Perhaps a second consultation would be in order before to address some of the questions you have.

Best to you whatever you decide and, I hope the third time's the charm!

Gellia

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