HAD LOWER LEFT WISDOM TOOTH OUT TUESDAY AND NOW IT IS SEVEN DAYS LATER AND STILL HAVE LEFT LOWER LIP AND LEFT SIDE OF CHIN NUMBNESS AND FRONT LOWER TEETH AND GUM ON INSIDE ALSO..GOING BACK TO ORAL SURGEON ON THURSDAY TO SEE WHAT HE SAYS..ALSO ALTHOUGH THERE IS THE NUMBNESS I HAVE PERIODIC ITCHING FEELING AND CRAWLEY FEELINGS IN MY CHIN AND LIP, DOES THIS MEAN I HAVE INFERIOR ALVELOAR NERVE DAMAGE..WILL IT GET BETTER IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN TAKE TO HELP THIS SITUATION..THANKS FOR THE HELP
I appreciate EVERYONE in this forum. I recently suffered an IAN injury 6 weeks ago tomorrow and continue to heal. The first weeks were the WORST. I lost a SUBSTANTIAL amount of weight (I believe i'm around 110, which was my HS weight!) I had an obvious speech impediment in the beginning but this went away at about 2 or 3 weeks ago. I can feel most of my gums, my teeth don't ache anymore. I have the tight feeling that can be very uncomfortable, especially if I think about it for too long.
The only thing i'm not confident in still is how my face looks. There is a slight bulge on my left side where the injury is. The knot/bulge was bigger a few weeks ago but seems to be subsiding. I hope it does because you could tell a big difference on one side. I don't want to look like a chipmunk while i'm healing. It wouldn't be so bad to deal with if you weren't constantly worrying about how you look when you say words, and how you look with a straight face. I find that it is getting better, slowly , but better. This is particularly stressing for anyone.
1st week: EXTREMELY numb, no feeling what-so-ever. pain. panic mode.
2nd week: slight feeling in lower gums, lip heaviness, pain still. feel myself bite my lip ever so slightly.
3rd week: no pain, just tingling. speech improved slightly. lip didn't feel as heavy. can feel slight prick in chin.
4th week: no pain, tingling, speech improved more. more feeling in my gums. Could feel more of my lip when bitten.
5th week: I started rubbing my face with a warm wash cloth once/twice a day for stimulation. I read someone did this twice a day and within 6-8 weeks they were fully recovered. (I'll try anything lol).
6th week: Can feel prick in chin even more. Can feel myself bite my lip, inner lip. Tightness around mouth isn't as apparent.
I am trying my hardest to have faith during this situation and to be positive as much as possible. I do appreciate each and every one of you taking the time to explain/express your concerns during this very trying/difficult time. Thank you again.
It's been just over 5 weeks since my surgery.
I still have the numbness in my lower lip and chin, but on the plus side, my gums/teeth on the one side aren't feeling as tight anymore, and when i poke it i can feel it more than i could a few weeks ago.
As far as my lip goes, a couple of days ago the sensation changed a bit. Now it feels like my nerve is being pulled/pinched when i eat or brush my teeth.
I saw my oral surgeon 2 days ago to talk about the healing of my nerve so far and he said everything i'm experiencing is a good sign...it means it's trying to heal.
He also told me it happens in stages.
2- tingling/itchy feeling
3- burning sensation
4- pins and needles
he said any of those sensations is a good sign, and nothing to be alarmed about.
Living with this numbness is definitely getting easier, but like any other person on here, I still find it annoying at some points but life goes on.
I'm still going to work, going out with friends, and i jus try not to think about it too much.
but i hope everyone is doing good and stays positive :)
Best words I can offer to those new here that are desperately seeking answers as I was in your place just over a year ago when I came here... is the following advice honed by the anecdotal accounts given by those injured that have come here to tell their story. This and collaboration with 25 different MD's.
The following is the holy grail:
1. Each of us with his injury do not recover at the same rate of speed. Some recover in 1-3 months and one4love has taught us that its possible to recover after 10 years. How is that for variability and uncertainty?
2. There isn't a medical professional, nerve specialist, neurologist etc smart enough to predict when any of us will recover. So you can see a boatload of MD's like I have and you will get the same answer every time...no solid time line to recovery..
3. Perhaps most important....99.9% of all those injured will recover to a point where your life will basically be unaltered or less bothered. This btw, may not mean full recover but perhaps in the majority of cases after several years it does. This may take 5 years but in your depths of despair, this is the reality. You may not recover in a year for example like I haven't. Many report another level of improvement between 1 and 2 years. My IAN injury is/was severe. After 1 year and some miserable days, some even recently, I overall am on an improvement trajectory. Prediction for me is 3-5 years...only my gut instinct...of when this injury will be more behind me. Again, my injury is close to worse case in spite of seeking the best facial surgeon I could find and having great health. My tooth extraction was problematic with a stretch injury to my IAN based upon involvement with the root of my impacted wisdom tooth.
I wanted to put these basic guidelines out there because all new to this injury who are devastated as I was need answers and the answer is less than clear based upon the individuality of our injuries...But virtually all will recover to a livable level but this could take years as the nerve continues to regenerate and brain adjusts to this physical change.
One of the unfortunate byproducts of this forum which maybe the single most important website to those with this injury is, a good percentage of those injured once they achieve recovery say by 1-6 months or so, never post again. They are grateful and relieved to recover and don't share this with the community here. This is unfortunate because it is the information sharing here that instills hope.
A last note on recovery if really at the depths of despair and difficulty coping during the early months including much pain some of us have experienced...me. Trying to will your self into an acceptable state is almost impossible. Yes self talk helps...and trying to do the things you enjoy like exercise...and there is no equal to the love and support of family. But this injury will rob your brain chemistry of serotonin necessary to cope. In my darkest days...I am an exercise junkie and avid cyclist, I was having panic attacks on my bicycle....long gone now. My very best advice is, it much better to adjust your brain chemistry through medication to increase serotonin levels responsible for your despair...diminished serotonin levels are also responsible for magnified pain....synergistic. Willfulness doesn't work because its on the conscious level of brain function...talking to yourself. The subconscious steers the ship as it turns out. Your deep emotions about what you know or don't know...or comporting these two things...the uncertainty of if/when you will recover.. Depression and hopelessness can only be addressed by adjusting your brain chemistry through medication...medication in effect putting your brain chemistry back to a normal level. Then it will be much easier to have the right perspective and willfulness to do the time it takes to recover. Once a level of recovery is achieved where you are no longer desperate, you will no longer need any supplemental medication and there are many options for medication and speak to your medical doctor if the above resonates with you.
Hope above helps. As my carefully selected user name implies after learning as much about this injury as I possibly can, time heals.
I absolutely LOVE your posts! You have stated very true facts here. I want to personally thank you for all of your advice/strength as we all need it at this time.
I have seen alot of improvement. I am at 7 weeks, and am now experiencing hypersensitivity. It is very annoying. I am not sure if I should try physical therapy to "desensitize" the nerve and retrain it, or go to a doctor for steroids/antidepressants. I have an appointment with my GP tomorrow, hopefully they will give me some insight. I remember many going through this stage of recovery, hopefully this is what will happen in the next month or so. Also, anyone looking to reach out/pen pal about this situation, please feel free to email me at ***@****
Blessings and wishes for all of us to have a speedy recovery!
Thanks for your kind words and will try to give you just a bit more perspective based upon your early experience with this injury.
The earlier days...where you are today are by far the most brutal. I mentioned that my nerve was injured badly and I also had lingual nerve involvement creating pain in my tongue. I was in so much pain, I was suicidal. Many if not most are not as severe as me. I wasn't trying to cope one day at a time but rather one hour at a time. One foot in front of the other I would tell myself as a mantra. I wanted to live. I have been blessed with an extraordinary life and this was my time of atonement. ;-)
So my situation was worse case and want all to know I have emerged from the darkest place I have ever been. Courage is basically over rated. At the end of the day, each of us do what we have to, to survive.
I will share my further perspective about meds and therapy. There are no neuropathic drugs or therapy that will help much with this. I have tried. Acupuncture isn't very effective either.
So what is the best approach? Organize your life so that you do the things you enjoy the most. As it turns out stress magnifies the pain. I wrote about willfulness and the conscious versus subconscious mind. Nobody is strong enough to will this away on a conscious level and of course the subconscious is a manifestation of the uncertainty if any of us will recover or when and hence over the top anxiety. The brain on a subconscious level really struggles with this conundrum. But what we can do is...distract ourselves from the misery of this with activities we love. If you like to play basketball, play basketball more...paint, paint more. With me its cycling and swimming more and getting in the best shape I can be.
But some...not all here...based upon extent of injury and body chemistry will need more help. Under times of extreme stress with uncertain outcome, each of our brain chemistry changes. This reduction in endorphin level can lead to great depths of depression or heightened anxiety so powerful we become unhinged and start thinking darker thoughts. If you feel this way, there is help. You have the option of going on a long term anti depressive med or taking a med as needed which was my approach. I knew what was going on with my brain chemistry but I couldn't talk myself out of my depth of despair. I tried hard to but no amount of self talk was working. Again, willfulness many times doesn't work in extreme cases. Both Ativan and Xanax are effective to bring you down off the ledge. So if you feel desperate, go see your medical doctor and tell him what is going on. I in fact got a prescription from my oral surgeon. I explained what was going on and he was smart enough to help. But my surgery was done in a special setting in a hospital and not a dental office.
Long term: For some and perhaps even most but certainly not all, recovery from this is a very long distance race. A marathon. So you need to adapt this viewpoint if you can. Try not to be disappointed in your lack of progress and gain some comfort from this forum that you will get better but over a long period of time if you don't recover rapidly. Once you achieve more sensation in your mouth, this will give you more confidence, you will gain more an more in your journey back to normal. As mentioned, I think I am perhaps 5 years away from being close to normal.
I will mention another thing that isn't often discussed here. The effect this injury has on intimacy. I was pretty devastated by this aspect as well as I lost the ability to kiss like I like which is quite important to me. Speaking of course is very big deal to me but so is kissing. I can now have the same level of intimacy I had before. This is not without altered sensation but I at least have regained enough sensation that I am getting closer to how I was.
mayaluv4, if you feel despair which is common in the early days with this, see your MD and get a prescription for what I suggested to lower your anxiety level. You may only need this once in a while like I did...only a handful of times, but having it with you will give the safety net and confidence you can cope with this and allow you to make it through the darkest days until you no longer need it. Its been many months now since I even considered taking any meds. I don't like taking meds as it turns out and take nothing day to day.
Please forgive me for not checking in here for awhile. But as I say, the less you hear from me, the better because it means I am forgetting about my injury :) However, I do want to help everyone and those newcomers who I am sad have had to join our community here.
July 21st will mark 2 years and 5 months since having my wisdom teeth removed. Sometimes I sit and think about how long it's been and how I cannot believe I got through some of the most hardest moments in my life. To someone who never experienced what we all know well, it might sound like I'm being a drama queen and extremely over the top, especially when there are so many worse things in life. It's all relative though as to what the person has gone through and I for one have been very blessed to have never had issues with health, so this of course was a very traumatic experience to say the least.
Now, years later, I have learned to pretty much accept the card I was dealt with. I am soooo much better of course, no doubt about that, but things still don't feel 100% yet. I still have tightness in my teeth, albeit so much looser than even just last year, and when I run my finger over my chin I still feel some tingling. My lip also still doesn't feel as much sensitivity as my normal side so kissing is not completely the same as it used to be. HOWEVER, I know it sounds like I'm complaining but I want to be honest. All these altered sensations that I continue to feel are at a better stage than it once was. They have only improved, not gotten worse. So basically if the tightness was originally at a 10 on a number scale, it's now a 4 or 5, you know what I mean? This healing process continues and I still have high hopes that it will one day heal in full with absolutely no residual wonkiness at all.
I live my life normally now and don't think about my injury much anymore. When I think back to how far I've come, I still can't believe this much time has passed. Once in awhile I joke with my boyfriend and say, "wanna go back to the spring of 2013?? Fun times right?" And he and I laugh and laugh :) it does make my stomach turn when I think about how scared I was then and although I had loved ones around me helping, I felt very alone. That feeling soon subsided with every passing month and I was finally able to track some healing.
Lets put it this way as to how I'm feeling now. If I had known back when this first happened to me that I'd be where I am today with my injury, I wouldn't have had a scared bone in my body :) Hope that sheds some light.
Congrats on your continued progress StarBrite. So nice to hear from you. Thank you for all your posts and your invaluable and consistent contribution throughout your recovery. Your bravery through your early days when each of us are beyond scared is to be admired as your last sentence is most telling and why your contribution has been so helpful to help others. As I read back through your posts in fact repeatedly in my early days desperately hoping I would recover as my injury occurred just over a year later than yours, it is your words of optimism, hope and improvement that guided me through the most difficult time of my life. And it isn't lost on me that you were a trail blazer on this forum as there wasn't another before you that shared such depth and thoughtful insight. I hope you stop in from time to time and post updates to further write the book on long term recovery. This is my intent as well.
My hypersensitivity has been bothering me alot. What stage comes after the hypersensitivity stage? Assuming that I recover from this stage. Can I expect the area to become smaller from the edges/along with normal sensation? Feel free to email me anytime at mayasutton64(at)hotmail(dot)com
If you read the above few posts, there is no set timeline to recovery. Sorry for the lack of clarity, but that is the reality. You maybe totally healed in 6 months or less or not be completely healed in 3 years. All depends on magnitude of injury and your bodies' ability to regenerate this nerve. Call it a lottery. Knowing that will help in your disappointment but will beyond test your patience if your injury languishes like mine has for example. Also, while symptoms and recoveries have similarities, they are not the same for each of us. This is because generally there aren't two identical nerve injuries and therefore the sensory feedback is different for each of us...which is related to how each of us heal.
That is what makes this injury so insidious...lack of knowing. This is where your faith or hopefulness is heavily called into play. My advice is always choose hope over fear if you can on a conscious level. If you feel like you are panicking which typically occurs on a more powerful subconscious level for example as I did early into my incomplete recovery so far, be sure to get some medical help as I discussed just above.
My best to you.
Hi all! Sorry I have been away so long, been busy enjoying my life. :)
Welcome to the new members - sorry you have this issue, but glad you found us. We are a consistent and positive group that can help you get through the rough spots. Those early days can be nightmares, please always remember that you are not alone - we get this - we have been were you are.
Try not to panic, as said above - I was able to steady myself with my faith and put things in perspective - not that I didn't lose it occasionally. If you are overwhelmed, get whatever help you need to keep yourself safe.
I promise you that life does get better and you will be less and less bothered by this issue. I am at 2 years and 3 months past injury. I am not 100% yet, but remain faithful that I will get there. I still have good and bad days. Last week I would say I was almost normal - maybe 95%. Today I would say about 75%. I have been getting what I would describe as a cramp in my lip - it feels like something tugging, not really painful, but irritating. I am assuming this will lead to more healing. My hypersensitivity is way better, I now just get the slightest tingle when I run my finger over my lip. My teeth are still a tiny bit tight. It still feels like if I rubbed the area long enough it would all just go away - but it doesn't. Lol
Overall, it is just a tiny bother in my life. I had another minor medical issue and found a forum for that - the people there were all suffering and upset on how it was ruining there life. Luckily, I was better in a couple weeks - just like many here are - but some on that forum were affected for years. It made me think how everyone focuses on their own issues and how everyone has some type of issue.
My best advise to all is to just live the life you are given as best as you can. Try and help someone less fortunate - you really will see how blessed you are. Everyday is a gift.
Love and blessings to all! xoxo
Hi! Yes, it is more normal, but not totally normal. It is not a constant awareness that something isn't right. I notice it when I am sitting alone or watching tv - it is still there, but for now it is the new normal. :)
It is easy to forget about when you are busy. I remember the days when it felt like that was all I could focus on - NOTHING like that - thank God.
I am hoping you will be one of those that have total healing within 6 months, but even if you don't, you will be okay. :)
Keep the faith! Xoxo
In many ways our injuries are tracking similar in terms of timeline based upon your informative writing on this forum. As I read back through your posts back to 2 years and 3 months when you were injured, just over one year ago on June 18, 2014 you wrote the following:
"It has been 1 year and 2 months for me today. That may seem like a long time, but it has passed quickly. I would say I am at about 90% healed at this point. If I hold my mouth still with my lips together I feel normal"
This post is very close to what you just wrote in the last couple of days...your current status is...90% on your good days.
Can you say with any certainty that you have improved over the last year?
The reason I ask is because I am at 1 year and 2 months and my mouth continues to change. This change isn't always discernibly good...but with improvements paired with many setbacks I would say very slowly I am improving. So I was wondering if you feel you have really made strides in the last 12 months or so?
Continued improvement blessed2bme52 and thanks for your ongoing participation to help us all.
That is a very good question Timeheals! I suppose I should go back and read some of my posts, because I really don't want to confuse anyone here.
The quick answer is that yes, I have had a lot more healing in the last year.
Now for the long answer. :)
I can remember writing that post about how my mouth felt normal with my lips closed and being very still. That was huge for me - because before that, my mouth felt wierd ALL the time. To get to a point where it felt normal at all was a big step. It is so hard to quantify things like this, because when you are feeling bad, any relief to normal feels giant. Thus, I may have quantified it at 90%, because at that time, that is what it felt like.
Now, I may be using a slightly different scale - which we can agree is confusing, and I didn't even realize until you brought it up. Maybe what I mean is that 10 to 25% of the time it doesn't feel normal - which is way different than % healed. The rest of the time I just am not even aware of the injury. If I ponder it, it is there - not really sure if my mind has just learned to block it out, or pondering it makes it more noticeable.
But, I can definitely say that healing has occurred in the last year. It is not a mind blowing change - like the realization that I could feel normal with my mouth closed and holding still that you mentioned. It is more in the fine changes - less tightness, less tingling, less awareness of the injury. It feels so close to normal - even when I ponder it, and normal to the point of I don't even think about it most of the time. I hope that isn't too confusing. In my head it makes perfect sense. lol
It has been such a blessing to come here and share with everyone. I wish everyone total and complete healing. Have a blessed day! xoxo
Thank you so much blessed2bme52 for your response. Yes, the sensations we go through with this injury are beyond confusing and really defy the application of words to describe this experience. The late and great philosopher Joseph Campbell said about words...words are but an imperfect metaphor for our life experiences and this injury is no greater example of this IMHO.
Your response is hugely important to me and many others that have not realized full recovery after 1 year. Your experience of continued improvement gibes with many that have stated they have achieved more healing after 1 year...Starbrite and one4love being two notable members here. There are others as well and if others who are into the 2 and 3 year time period of recovery are reading this, please share your experience.
As it turns out improvement after 1 year...those accounts here do not precisely agree with what the medical community touts which is little change after 6 months to a year. The more I read testimonials here, the more I am convinced how out of step the medical community is with recovery from peripheral nerve damage such as with the IAN. One4love is no greater example. So your words are encouraging to those at near the 1 year point like myself that are hopeful for more improvement, so again my thanks for your clarification. And I believe you also covered something else about this not often spoken. That is the brain has learned to tune out the discomfort more over time. For example, I feel the discomfort...sometimes in fact quite palpable, but I am less bothered by as in the early days even though I still have ongoing dysesthesia. It more like background music instead of being all consuming as you write in the early days.
And btw, you said it all as perfectly as one can. I believe only someone who has gone down this road as we all have together here would have any idea what this journey is like. I couldn't of fathomed it before this happened to me. There are no words and completely agree, this forum has been a blessing of epic proportion to bring some peace of mind to such a life changing event for each of us.
Continued healing and peace blessed2beme52 and thanks your contribution.
Just a quick update. Glad to hear that most people are continuing to heal. This is most encouraging, as I do think it is the worrying part when you feel there doesn't seem to be much change. I still have the hypersensitivity and tightness on the lip and part of the chin. I have a low grade pain on the site of the injury, but I can be distracted from this.
I continue to follow steps forward and then steps backward. Overall the injury isn't so scary now and most of the time I can deal with it without much upset and am able to get on with my life pretty much back to normal.
Many thanks to all posting as this is of great comfort to me and I am sure all who have gone through this strange injury.
I have not posted in about 7 months or so. It has been just over a year since my nerves were damaged from routine wisdom teeth removal.
I posted frequently once the injury started and continued to post every month or so.
In my opinion no one will truly "fully" recover from nerve damage back to 100%.
Where am I at now? I would say 90-95% and I am fine with this I am happy with life and am glad it healed. I would say it took about 4-5 months to get to this point and ad we all know everyone heals differently.
I only say I am 95% and not 100% healed because it is still "altered feeling" in one way or another.
To clarify, at this point right now if I run my finger across my mouth and when I touch the "altered area" it is ever so slightly different in feeling.
However I have full feeling and do not ever notice it now unless I move my mouth around like a crazy person.
I am now working as a mechanical designer and finished school about 8 months ago. I'm 22 and it took almost 5 months to heal at which point I thought I was doomed for the rest of my life but healing will occur for everyone!
I now advise everyone I know to get a second opinion from their dentist or another professional to review their xrays prior to wisdom teeth removal.
I remember the doctor that did the surgery informed me that it may never heal...I almost had a heart attack but that was 11 months ago. To everyone it will heal and good luck.
Your latest posts about the percentage scale and where you are now is so so true!!! I too have never wanted to confuse anyone here with my posts over the last two and half years and the discussion of how much has healed from a percentage standing point. I know that this is probably the most asked question by people, "Are you 100% yet? No? Well then what are you? 75%? 90%?" The numbers are so relative to how we feel at that very moment when we are expressing our thoughts on this forum, so there may have been times over a year ago when I truly did think I was at 90%, but then what does that mean now so many months later? I may be at 90% today still, except I have gained back so much more feeling since I originally wrote that post. The whole process is completely confusing and I think what you explained about it possibly being easier to understand it as being a percentage of the time of what doesn't feel normal as opposed to % healed, well yes I agree that it may make better sense to track it that way instead. All I know is that I've improved with numerous changes having occurred over the course of 2 1/2 years. I feel that any changes now are more minimal though than during the first year, but slowly and surely things do get better. As des19 just wrote earlier today, he believes no one ever "fully" recovers from nerve damage 100%. Not sure how I much I truly believe that just yet, but lets hope that is not the case.
Starbrite, I completely agree with your response to blessed2beme who answered my question about healing between year 1 and 2...the zone I am in. Blessed2beme assigned a percent back in the earlier days and about the same percent a year later and she then clarified that her rating was specific to a given time period which made a lot of sense. Yes the confusion of this injury...a subjective personal rating on healing as it relates to a given time period...I believe we all agree that words are inadequate to describe this experience.
I too was going to respond to Des as well who just posted. Des, I am so glad that after one year you have posted your progress on the forum. So good to hear from you and share your progress with us. As Starbrite suggested, I too take exception to what you stated about likely not healing totally with your injury and will explain why. First, you are very young...one of the youngest members here to be injured in fact and btw, congrats on working in your field of engineering after graduating...all while going through this horrific ordeal. You are to be commended for this accomplishment while going through what we all have.
There is one poster on here that has taught us that full recovery after a very long period of time is feasible. One4love has taught us this invaluable life's lesson. Her gift to us. She gives each one of us hope that healing is quite possible over a long period of time and that in fact the nerve never stops regenerating. One4love recovered her first time...unspeakable she was injured twice....her first time after 10 years. 10 years....an unexplored time period on this forum and in fact never addressed in the medical literature which is woefully inadequate when addressing long term healing from this injury. One4love explained that after 3 years or so, she figured the numbness she accepted, would never go away. But it did after 10 years. This instills tremendous hope to each of us...including to me with a severe injury to the nerve, that I may recover over a period of years. She has given me this hope and even if not healing all the way, to a level that is perfectly tolerated versus my state now of being bothersome at times..
Des, I expect you will continue to recover. Yes of course most healing is realized in the early months because that is when the nerve is most degraded and subsequent improvement would of course be much faster in the early days.
I will tell you all that I am right at 14 months as I write this and having some OK days offset by bad days. I am so encouraged by learning that many here have improved more between 1 and 2 years. Yesterday for example was a bit of bad day. I feel the nerve in my face continuing to change at 14 months. I believe more tissue is being activated with time and as it is, the brain isn't adjusted to this new connection and discomfort ensues. But the balance of bad and good days on average is a positive trajectory toward healing or at least this is my sense. You all may have noticed, I haven't assigned a percent to my healing. I don't feel I am at 90% however. Probably in the 70=80% on a good day and therefore I am in a very long recovery which I believe will likely be over many years to come as the nerve slowly changes and the brain makes sense of these changes. In my case I believe the reason is based upon the severity of the injury due to my difficult extraction. Even with this level of damage to the nerve and even though I am less than certain, I believe its quite possible in the next 5 to 10 years I will continue to improve to the point I rarely notice this injury as one4love taught us is possible over several years.
That is my hope for everybody here..
My operation was July 5 of last year so I am coming up on the 13 month mark. I have healed well and am still hopeful to go from that 95-100% full recovery but as stated before where I am at now...I will never notice it.
Yes, it happened to me last summer so I had to go back to school and finish up my last semester while dealing with this which was difficult. No body understood that I had virtually no feeling for a few months. Luckily it healed up good around the 4 month mark I remember in the 3rd is where I had the big "breakthroughs".
Also my previous comment more so referred to the pshycological affect of healing that we truly never "fully" recover, but I do agree that anyone can heal right back to 100% which is what I'm hopeful for everyone no matter the time frame.
I will continue to check posts on a weekly or monthly basis as well as continue to post once in a while but as someone previously said, if were not posting we must be feeling good!
Good luck to everyone, also to those that this is just happening to. It will get better, significantly better in the first 4 months. Remember I had almost no healing for the first full 1-2 months which scared me but look at me now :)
Sorry I haven't been on here in a while.
But let's get right to the point.
I'm still dealing with the numbness we all know so well, but there has been slight improvements.
I had my surgery May 27, 2015, and after that I couldn't feel anything if you poked me/pinched me or anything in the bottom lip & chin area..
But now, almost 3 months later, I can feel hot and cold sensations, I can feel if it's being touched and I'm no longer biting it when I eat.
But the sensation I feel now is what I can only describe as Hypersensitivity, and yes it's annoying, but Hey, at least I feel something again.
The feeling to me as I describe it to people when they ask about it is that it feels like your arm or leg would if it fell asleep, and when you poke it, it just feels tight. And when the feeling starts to come back you get that pins and needles & sensitive feeling to it.
So my doctor said it's all normal and it's all GOOD SIGNS of your nerve repairing itself. So please everyone just hang in there. I know it's hard not knowing the "longevity" of this condition but just hang in there. It can only get better with time.
Thank you all for your valued input on to this site. I always feel much better when I read your posts, as I know I am not alone with this injury to the IAN injury. It is an invisible injury to those who have not had to deal with it. It is around 15 months since the damage to the nerve by a dental injection. At around the 6 month-point I was told by the surgeon that the damage would continue to heal until the area affected would become smaller and less troublesome, which gave me some hope.
Well, at this stage I do have some days where I feel less bothered by the injury, having slight pain at the site of the injury and hypersensitivity on the lip and chin on the lower left hand side. However as many state it is difficult to completely block out this as my brain seems to register this as 'not normal' and agitation ensues.
However, on the bright side of things, the injury has brought about some positive things into my life, because I appreciate qualities in life I used to ignore, such as the wonderful people in my life and enjoyable events to indulge in. I am in my late 50s and went for motorbike ride with my hubby to a biker's retreat and looked at around 100 bikes just for the fun of it, which in my previous life would never have done!
thank you all for your invaluable posts. Stay strong and my sincere best wishes to you.
So nice to hear from you. Oh, you not alone...myself and many others here are right beside you. We should have a world wide convention denouncing the dental community for their lack of technical advancement to preclude this awful fate from befalling others which I am convinced could be averted with better practices.
Wherever I read your posts and thank you for your continued contribution as well as we all learn about the evolution of longer term IAN injuries together...not only were we injured at the same time but our symptoms and recovery as slow as it is...seem identical. You could be describing me as well. Only difference is...and a hint of irony is, I have sold all my motorcycles in an effort to avert physical injury and yet this happened! Based upon how this injury has affected our thinking and no doubt it has for many here as well...its made it harder for me to stay out of the Ducati dealership. ;-) but I have steered away from my motorbike addition and derive much pleasure in my life in spite of times of what I would characterize as a fair amount of discomfort. Pain/discomfort like yourself seems to vary a fair amount...ok days to bad days...or periods of palpable discomfort within given days.
I will say further however that the good days seems better and my mouth feels 'different' over time. So my chin and lip are changing...I seem to regaining some lost feeling, but still with a fair amount of numbness and hypersensitivity you mention interspersed with mild dull pain at times. So this trajectory of 'change' that I am even loathe to characterize as improvement...it does seems like incremental improvement on some days. I suppose I am encouraged by on some but not all days when the pendulum swings the other way and my mouth feels more bothered like it is flaring up. I attribute the flaring to the nerve continuing to change and the brain having difficulty processing this anatomical change to the nerve as it heals resulting in some days being better than others as the brain makes sense of the change. 2 steps forward and 1 step back...or at least I hope so and difficult to discern because the change is so excruciatingly slow. So I am feeling 'change' and maybe deceiving myself that it is even improvement at 15 months as well but I suppose I hold on to hope that it is positive change and that eventually, I will be much less bothered. I try to be objective just how much I have improved in say that last 3 months, and I believe I have...but still believe I have a long way to go....perhaps even as long as 2-3 more years before I feel closer to normal.
Great to hear from you and that you are enjoying life and I am as well. I still miss my 'top of the world' health I used to enjoy but as you mention this injury is a wake up call that life is short and sometimes fraught with challenges which may further increase our resolve to live it to its fullest.
My very best to you and all those here that are going through the same.
Has anyone ever noticed hearing loss along with the numbness/altered sensation?
I haven't posted for a while, but I had my wisdom teeth out 27 months ago and I still have altered sensation. I don't have much hope at the moment, but am trying an essential oil called helichrysum now. Sort of my last hope, I guess. I was reading something about the nerve damage, and I saw something about hearing loss, and I realize that my hearing has really become an issue in the last couple years, and I never put two and two together.
I too had a wisdom extraction 6 days ago and I am really thankful to all the positive posts and I am truly confident that I should give it time to heal.It will take some adjusting but I will be fully healed and will live to tell the testimony.
Hi. You said it took you 15 years to heal. Have you had any small improvement over the 15 years or did it come back towards the end? My daughter has not had any change for over years. 3 months after the injury, she had a slight improvement (very subtle) but after that there was nothing. I don't want to lose hope for her recovery. Thanks for your help.
Can you tell us about your daughter's injury...was it a wisdom tooth extraction? What did the doctors say when there wasn't much improvement?
Did you have a post surgery CBCT scan performed to determine any nerve impingment? What are her current symptoms? Major numbness?...any neuropathic pain? In what area?
Thought I would weigh in with a an update and pose a question to those past the 1 year mark or even past the two year mark....
Today, I am right at 1 year and 5 months from my injury. The day before yesterday, I had a day that I thought or rather hoped wouldn't come or was behind me and reminiscent of suffering in the past. A few days every month or so, I suffered with high discomfort. Call it a high level of nerve agitation and/or hypersensitivity. This last time a couple of days ago, my old nemesis electric pain came along as well throughout my chn.
Many here understand the counterintuitive aspect of this insidious affliction. Not easy to embrace the pain of course but many if not most agree that many times pain is a precursor to further healing although with greater time, this becomes harder to accept. Its like...when am I ever going to recover from this? We try not accept the fact we may have to live with pain the rest of our lives. But after many repetitions of this followed by further healing, in the back of our minds, this coaxes us through the day or two of pain to get to the other side of a calmer mouth with perhaps even greater sensation. This just happened again to me. Every month I have an awful couple of days when I start thinking about climbing up on the high ledge again. ;-) I mean it really crosses my mind but of course I wouldn't and haven't so far. :-) But then, two days later like today and my mouth is better than its ever been since my injury. So this yoyo effect is...taking into account this unbelievable elapse of time from my injury...I am still having brief episodes of electric shock therapy and then somehow making it through the dark tunnel of denial to feeling better.
My only explanation is the nerve is still regenerating in fits and starts. When the nerve changes, initially the brain doesn't like it and hypersensitivity occurs...what I call nerve agitation interspersed by the nasty companion of pain...only to dissipate and be replaced by a more normally feeling mouth....but still well removed from a normal mouth on my right lower side.
So that is my best characterization of where I am at, and wonder to all longer term sufferers, are you going through the same?...recognizing that no two of us have precisely the same injury.
Are you still having pain after 1 year? Are these episodes of pain and agitation followed by more recovery? How about after 2 years?..does this cycle continue and hopefully dissipates over time?
Thanks to all who share their journey here. My thoughts are with each of you wishing you strength through the tough days.
Answer is and perhaps the hardest aspect to deal with this injury, is, none of know the level of recovery we will achieve over time. I have spoken with 30 different doctors and neurologists about this. No two injuries are the same. Some recover and in fact quickly from this injury. Others like myself have suffered longer term and even then there is hope.
Peripheral nerves grow back. The issue is...will they grow back to their original configuration. Generally perhaps not but the brain adjusts the 'new anatomy' of the nerve as it regrows.
Itching is a very good sign. If you aren't in great pain...perhaps it will come...with time...many believe and I am of this school that pain is actually good in that the nerve is changing. Change is good. The brain however doesn't like change initially which equates to pain. Numbness shows lack of connection...like a broken circuit. Most of us were numb initially for up to a month and then slowly emerged with a combination of pain and more sensation.
I encourage you to read back thru the entire forum. Or click on my user and read my accounts from the beginning when I was in a state of despair. My nerve was damaged quite badly I learned from my extraction. But believe it not, I still have hope although someday not so much...by even my most recent bout of pain followed by even more sensation and more normal feeling, that 1-3 years from now I will be better and perhaps even a lot better.
What I have learned and this is a philosophy of sorts and I am neither polly annish or religious...is when you don't know the impending outcome of a given event and this pertains largely to the mystery of life....ALWAYS choose hope over despair. The reason why not to choose despair is there are compelling reasons why you will improve. There is a cool woman on this forum by the name of one4love that took 10 years to recover and then the unthinkable happened and her other side was injured in a later tooth extraction. Unthinkable and yet she believes resolutely that she will recover from that side as well.
Choose hope tatipelli and read the accounts on this forum for your guidance. This forum is more important than any doctor's rote advice because it consists of what many have gone through with this injury.
Stay strong and positive...better days ahead.
SAME THING JUST HAPPEND TO ME. I WENT TO CANCUN MX. FOR IMPLANTS. I HAVE TO SAY THEY HAD BETTER EQUIPMENT THAN THE USA DENTISTS DO. A 3D X RAY MACHINE.. HOW COOL IS THAT..
I HAVE NUMBNEASS ON MY LIP AND CHIN BUT FROM WHAT I READ AND FROM WHAT THEY TOLD ME, IT IS NORMAL . ITS ONLY BEEN 2 WEEKS...THIS PLACE I CHOSE AFTER RESEARCHING 4 MONTHSIN THE WORLD, FROM INDIA TO BUDAPEST TO TAIWAN TO MEXICO. .I MIGHT HAVE CHOSE INDIA.. WE WILL NEVER KNOW... AN 18 HOUR FLIGHT WAS THE REASON I DIDN'T.. BUT THEY USE A SWISS COMPANY, AND THEY CAN DO PERMENANT TEETH IN 1 VISIT. IT IS CALLED PERMENANT TEETH IN 3 DAYS..AND THEY USE 16 IMPLANTS.. . IT ACTUALLY TAKES 10 DAYS. BUT THEN YOUARE DONE. I CHOSE OCEAN DENTAL IN CANCUN BECAUSE MOST OF THE STAFF SPEAK FLUENT ENGLISH. AND HALF THE STAFF STUDIED IN AMERICA. DR. IRMA THE OWNER WHO SITS IN ON ALL CONSULTATIONS AND IS IN CHARGE OF TREATMENT PLANS, STUDIED IN CALIFORNIA AND MICHIGAN, AND TAUGHT IN MICHIGAN. SHE IS US BOARD AND ADA CERTIFIED. PLUS THEY HIRE THE BEST IN THE WOLD OR EACH FIELD INCUDING BRACES........THEY ALL TOLD ME NOT TO GET A TON OF WORK DONE IN 1 VISIT BUT I AN IN A RUSH.. I HAD A BONE GRAPH. 9 IMPLANTS AND 7 EXTRACTIONS AT 1 TIME.. NOW I HAVE SOME PAIN 2 WEEKS LATER. NUMBNESS IN LOWER LIP AND CHIN., AND LOWER CHIN IS PAINFUL WHEN TAPPED OR ACCIDENTLY HIT MY CHIN, WHERE THE IMPLANTS ARE AT. THEY SAY IT IS NORMAL... FOR A SECOND OPINION IS IT????? SIGNED RANDY SAVED 30 GRAND IN MEXICO
I am not saying another practitioner wouldn't have injured you...but what you report is NOT normal. For the symptoms you reference, they damaged your Inferior Alveolar nerve. The big concern with implants is 'why' you have numbness and pain.
There are two potential reasons:
1. when they extracted your rear bottom teeth, you disrupted the nerve...I am presuming and hope only on one side. This may recover quickly or may take years to improve with uncertain outcome...depends on extent of the injury to the nerve.
2. with implants...they didn't size them properly and the implant screwed right into the nerve.
For me, I would absolutely have a post surgery CBCT scan performed to see if the implant is pressing on the nerve. If this is the case and the implant not removed and properly sized, your nerve will never recover.
Somebody tell me, the numbness in lower lip will ever get healed or not?
After 1 year and 10 month I have 10% numbness in my lower lip, it's killing me. I need to know, is it ever going to heal or not? For example after 3 years later.
Sorry for my bad english. Please answer.
Thaks in advance.
Just curious why 10% numbness would be killing you?
As to what level of recovery you will achieve...its the same question each of us ask. I suggest you read the entire forum for personal accounts.. Many accounts of recovery...including one lady here that recovered after 10 years. Likely the only reason we ever learned of her recovery is because she was unfortunately injured on the other side. A common dynamic is...when people heal over a very long period, they are so relieved they don't return to a forum such as this and remind sufferers it is possible.
My opinion only.
My mantra is...choose hope over despair. All we have.
Good luck to you and everybody here.
Hi again Timeheals60
I read the forum, and realized my problem is 10-15% tightness. I can feel everything in my lower lip, but it's sort of cold and heavy and tightness. Is this as the same as numbness and will heal eventually or not?
I don't want to say your question is unanswerable, but all any of us can do is consider the experience of what others have reported with the same injury. The tough part is, within the family of the same injury, there is quite a variance in terms of how the nerve can be injured because of a tooth extraction, implant or say a needle injection. Injuries occur at various degrees of severity and this affects prognosis and time line for recovery.
The way I look at it is...having read as much medical literature as I could find, talking to as many MD's and PhD's as I could etc and listening to the anecdotal accounts on this forum...is the following.
From my personal experience, I believe the answer is, if your mouth is continuing to change say week to week or even more broadly month to month...then you most likely are on a trajectory of healing. So I believe first and foremost that is the question each of us must ask ourselves...is our mouth changing with time albeit excruciatingly slow which is the speed that the nerve heals and why hard to know with precision. But it is more complex I believe as many here have discovered. There is regression at times for some unfortunate like myself that had their inferior alveolar nerve badly injured. I had a very difficult extraction. In fact my symptoms at times are difficult to live with because I have intermittent tongue electric pain as well...that seemed to heal but has re-emerged in the last 6 months or so. I haven't been able to determine if this is simply a branch of the same IAN nerve tree or more specific to damage to the lingual nervel which affects tongue sensation and pain in spite of my efforts to determine this. I suppose at the end of the day it doesn't matter. But when my chin flares which is every week or so due to what I believe is the brain struggling with further regeneration of the nerve...some believe pain is a healthy sign for example...when my chin flairs, my tongue can too and that equates to a difficult day or part of the day when this occurs.
But stepping away from the above a bit on more benign days when my mouth seems more dormant...or when not having a regressive episode of nerve hypersensistivity and flaring due to the nerve regenerating....I believe I have a 'chance' of more recovery but even just shy of 1.5 years where I am today, still impossible to determine if I will fully recover. I believe the probability goes down with greater time...say over 2 years...but again, I bring up one4love....10 years and her numbness finally went away.
So I would say almost anything is possible when it comes to the nerve regenerating ..or pain going away for example...just like the overwhelming pain many of us had in the early days has largely been replaced with either numbness or more sensation.
In the last couple of months, I have regained more feeling in my lower lip for example...and there seems to be a further shift of tightness more toward the bottom of my chin versus a larger area of my chin. So when I don't focus on the bad days I still have, it seems my mouth is improving overall but with each passing month, the bad days I still have reminds me that I may have to live with this at some level.
I believe nobody has a precise answer to your question because it is asked repeatedly whenever the IAN is injured and no medical expert has a solid answer because of the complexity of the injury that occurs on the molecular level within the nerve trunk. I do believe with some certainty however...if your mouth is changing versus say staying the same for 3 months or so, then you are still on a path of recovery. Whether you recover to 100% past 2 years....perhaps not...but to a level where hopefully your life will be affected very little...the hope each of us have with a longer term IAN injury.
And want to add a further footnote relative to the above and address the concept of "tightness" that myself and so many here have struggled with and as in my case, continue to experience.
I want to say further, how ignorant the medical community is about the symptom of tightness when I mention it. I tell all the MD's I have spoken with that the overarching symptom of the IAN being injured aside from either neuropathic pain and numbness...is tightness based upon all I talk to with this injury. They look back at me like they don't even believe what I am telling them. This level of ignorance about this injury is almost inexcusable really. So called experts that don't even understand the symptoms.
My hope moving forward. Let's say there are a small percentage of us that don't heal from this and have to live with tightness moving forward which some days all will admit is pretty awful in spite of efforts to cope. My hope is a therapy will come along to ease this tightness and make our mouths feel more normal...perhaps not resolving the numbness issue which is more benign...but addressing the tightness many of us feel. I hope the medical community wakes up and addresses this issue and a therapy comes along. No doubt it with time....there is no question. But will it occur in the next 5-10 years is the question.
I am about 3 weeks shy of 1 1/2 years since my wisdom tooth extraction where my IAN was badly injured and have been battling this ever since. Today my mouth has made another transition. I reported that my mouth feels like it has been changing each couple of weeks or so.
It is difficult to even choose words to describe this change. In fact, I am reluctant to even say that it is healing. I have written about several bad days along the way. But for me at least, my nerve continues to change at almost 1 1/2 years. Pretty remarkable. I believe my nerve is still waking up. I have more sensation. It isn't an itchy feeling exactly but would say very close to feeling that way. I wanted to ear mark this date and also report that my nerve continues to regenerate at well after 1 year. No idea where this is headed but to me this amount of change is quite palpable and hope is...a stepping stone to further recovery. I have to say the sensation change is disarming. I am almost in denial but it is too significant to deny. A discernible step and noteworthy.
Based upon where I am at as I just posted above with a noticeable change to my mouth at 17.5 months aka just shy of 1 1/2 years...I wanted to repost what Aprilchristine posted previously as she was just shy of 2 years at 22 months. Her words I believe exactly describe the path I hope I am on in ensuing months and provides hope to many here that say aren't at the 1 year recovery mark with a long way to go that when you hit the two year mark you may be in a lot better place.
Aprilchristine's post this past June:
Hey Everyone, I haven't posted in a while, but wanted to give an update. It's been 22 months for me. While the first year and a half, this lingering tightness and numbness consumed almost my every waking thought, I am having more and more days, I realize I haven't thought about it in a while. It is so hard to quantify improvement because it is so subjective, and I have never chosen to place a percentage on my healing because I would have always put it SO low, like not even 50%. But I am here to say that I think that finally the lingering tingling in my chin is almost completely gone! This makes me so happy! Also, the tightness is still there somewhat, but honestly it seems to be decreasing ever so slowly as well. Oh I will be SO SO excited to post here one day that everything is back to normal! I think it is a long way off still, but today I will finally go ahead and say that I think I may be around the 80% mark. I do sincerely wish you all strength and grace, and hope through this.ya'll!
I can only hope for April, myself and many other long term sufferers that we follow one4love's long term recovery which took several years in which she recovered fully....reaching a place along this protracted journey whereby this injury no longer distracts us from the joy of living.
Happy for you my friend. Hope everyone of us get heal sooner.
Thank you again for your support and helpful and synergetic notes.
I believe my tightness one day will be lost.. Hope any others too.
I will let you and others know if one day I fully recovered.
Wishing you all the best.
Thanks. I believe at the end of the day all we can do is learn from one another in terms of what to expect moving forward relative to time. As discussed, our injuries though similar, are not necessarily the same. So we all may share general aspects like tightness which seems to be extremely common and what I feel quite a bit of...and of course numbness...but degree and combination and where in the mouth these occur and even time line to recovery are probably much different for many. Nor is each of our bodies ability to heal from a given injury to the IAN the same. So above creates quite an elastic scale to recovery for each of us.
There are also many insidious elements as we all have learned based upon an IAN injury. For me, its the continuous companion of regression along with slower than slow progress. This is quite disconcerting because there are days for example that I feel much worse than I did 3 months back...when further changes to the nerve has caused a large degree of agitation. And then...2 days later that change to the nerve settles down and manifests improvement. So it is jagged staircase of recovery with many relapses along the way for me at least. Bad days seem to have to follow better days.
What I have tried to glean as my recovery has languished now for almost 1.5 years is...what is the expectation for longer term suffers? Will we recover? The book on this I believe isn't widely understood including within the medical community. And...perhaps there are even exceptions to the norm based upon a given type of injury to the nerve. One problem with a solid data base is...after a long and protracted recovery where a certain level of healing has occurred, many people I believe stop posting on forums like this. So long term recoveries are not charted with any specificity.
Best of luck to those that say are less than one year from their injury and yet believe they are well away from being healed. Many have come forward here and stated pretty unanimously that there is discernible healing between the 1 and 2 year period. What is less clear is what the subsequent healing pattern is after 2 years. To me, there is no data to suggest that the healing process stops after 2 years. The nerve continues to regenerate and then the brain tries to make further sense of these changes which hopefully leads to greater sensation and an overall sense of greater normalcy with less impact on our lives over time.
Hi Timeheals and everyone thank you for posting. after 18 months of the dental injection injury to the IAN I still have good days and not so good days, on the good days I am not really bothered by the slight tightness and tingling sensation, mainly in the lip and chin area and can very easily be distracted from it ie when I am eating or drinking. Some of the trickling sensations of water running down my chin I had initially have gone which is a good sign. I have had an ache at the site of the injury and sometimes seems to move towards my ear on and off for about 6 months which I am hoping is a sign of attempts to repair the nerve. I believe that the nerve will continue to heal,even though this is a very slow process and this keeps me positive. Very best wishes to you all and enjoy life.
I joined the numbness club a week ago when I had all 4 wisdom teeth extracted under general. I just wanted to check in and say that this forum has been my saving grace as I am come to understand what this torturous affliction is. 'Luckily" (although at the moment I don't really feel it) I only seem to have had damage on my lower left side. My surgeon was brilliant and walked me through all the possible outcomes of surgery. Paresthesia was actually right at the bottom of my list of concerns, which seems really ironic now as it is ALL I think about! I have total numbness over the left side of my chin, lower lip and my lower left gums. Tingling, yes, itching, yes, tightness, fluttering sensations, 'cold pain' and OH MY GOSH the burning in my lip, YES.
I know from these posts that I am in the VERY early stages but this past week has been a rollercoaster of fear, sadness, frustration and anxiety, not to mention lack of sleep! All the usual fun stuff that everyone here is going through :-) EVERYONE here, especially you Timeheals, and all these posts have given me a huge boost of hope and positivity that we can all come through this. It is the worst thing when you think you are alone - no-one I speak to about it seems to understand and no matter how busy I keep myself it always pushes itself to front and centre throughout the day.
I believe and am trying to accept that this is the beginning of potentially a long journey but you guys are really keeping me sane. Thank you so much for being here and sharing. Sorry for the long first post. I wish you all the very best and look forward to hearing how everyone is doing. :-)
Much of what you are about to experience has been written. Yes, this forum is a godsend to us sufferers. Hard to know how long or arduous your road will be. You won't learn much from your so called 'brilliant' surgeon. They don't know if or when you will recover and honestly, they won't tell you the extent of the damage to the nerve either because they did it and a self indictment although they may rationalize it as it was unavoidable which I dismiss.. I could go into a long rant about all the new people coming here which will continue for years to come unless dental practices are changed. You see dental procedures are OK for the masses but there is a minority that become injured either do to lack of due diligence of the dental practitioner..or archane dental practices designed for a comfortable margin between tooth root and IAN. Reality is...for those with close proximity of nerve to root, conventional practices for wisdom teeth should NOT be used. They are inappropriate and doing so has life altering consequences as I can attest and as the other hundred or so here can as well...and no doubt thousands of sufferers throughout the world. Needless. Surgeons don't use a giant lever when performing brain surgery and they shouldn't for extracting an impacted wisdom tooth either. We are simply alive during the stone age of dentistry. 50 years from now wisdom tooth extractions performed today will be looked upon as anvil and chisel which is precisely what it is. So please feel my outrage to every single person here affected needlessly. I feel for you.
If you want to learn the trajectory of my healing please click on my user as I have written a fair amount about my spotty recovery from the beginning. I encourage you to read Starbrite's path as well who was my inspiration to do the time with some hopefulness.. In the last week...and this is 1.5 years from my injury I came through a pretty horrific week of pain. But today...I am better. One odd dynamic to keep in mind is, the nerve heals generally after periods of pretty intense pain at times. Its hard to embrace this pain, but that is how it goes with this injury. The brain rejects the anatomical change to the nerve as the nerve heals and then adjusts to this new connection and greater normalcy emerges. A most peculiar and disconcerting healing pattern.
Post with any concerns. If you feel you are literally going off the deep end, there is relief in terms of meds that will give you much greater peace of mind. I have written about this. I personally went through a very dark episode and making it through would have been very difficult without a little help. Don't needlessly suffer. FWIW nobody can will mental health. Your brain chemistry changes due to the depression of this injury. Post with ANY concerns and myself and others will try to help you get to the stage of recovery where you will have more confidence you will be ok. Hopefully you will recover quickly. Meanwhile stay close to family and friends and lighten your load as much as possible. Some do recover quickly , so hold out for this hope.
Thank you for your response Timeheals. I totally agree that we all seems to be at the mercy of outdated dental practices and the sheer number of people on this site alone highlights how much of a concern it should be in the medical field. The fact you are still seeing improvements after 1.5 years is amazing, but understand how frustrating the non-linear progress must be. I'm really not sure if I am seeing significant enough pain to warrant any breakthroughs, but I guess I am still in the early days and everyone is so different...
Seeing my surgeon tomorrow for my post-op but know that however great he is, he will not be able to tell me how long it will take to heal. Sure he will try and fob me off with some kind of empty promises, but I signed the waiver, and paid an exorbitant amount of money for the privilege to have him operate on me, so more fool me :-) My problem is that i am constantly thinking 'what if i went with another surgeon?' but know that the location of my nerve was always going to be an issue no matter who performed the extraction. Ah well.
I will certainly be checking in to see how you and everyone is doing when I can. All the best guys,
In some ways the early days are a bit easier to cope with than the days after 1 month or so. Not to alarm you about what to expect. Then after several months after greater healing you will hopefully achieve enough improvement to give you confidence you can do the time with more grace as you proceed toward greater normalcy. If say you have a stretch injury and the IAN trunk is intact..I had what I believe to be a pretty extreme stretch injury to the IAN where most axons where severed within the nerve...then the connection is lost and the there is pretty pervasive numbness in the early days. Basically the lamp wire inside the lamp cord was cut and the light was turned out. Then...remarkably...the body goes to work and all the broken axons die and within the trunk of the nerve which is a sheath or conduit of sorts to protect the axon...then Wallerian degeneration occurs and the body clears away these dead axons and new axons begin to sprout. It is the sprouting or rebirth of the nerve that causes pain. So in some ways, pain is good if one can mentally overcome this counterintuitive aspect of the healing process. It is only through the 500th repetition of this cycle that a given patient aka me :) starts to question the veracity of the healing process ;) A long road for some with this as noted by those that have gratefully contributed their story here.
There are many difficult elements to the recovery process mentally. And there is the grieving process of loss of health. Not a single person here for a moment ever thought of the consequences of this going in to have their wisdom teeth removed. What the dental industry tells prospective patients is tantamount to gross misrepresentation. There can be tremendous suffering with this injury if severe enough. I have suffered beyond description with this. But...through this exhaustive recovery...I am slowly emerging i.e. remain hopeful as I type this...in another 2 years or so, I am hopeful I will be well enough to be unbothered. My mouth continues to change on this jagged trajectory of beyond slow recovery.
I am hopeful your injury is much less and you recover quickly as some do. It is not abnormal for the person with this injury to have pervasive numbness for 1-2 months when more sensation returns and discomfort sets in on the way to complete healing. When the pain starts, look upon this as a healthy sign...new axons growing within the nerve trunk. Statistically only a very minute percentage don't recover from this.
Simply try to accept the steps involved moving forward. This takes mental tenacity and hopefully a full life to distract you. Don't be silent. Tell your love ones about your pain to help you cope.
All the best.
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