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In the last 2-3 years my husband and I have learned that our son has alot of educational and emotional problems. We have him on adderall(20mg). In the last 6 months, he has gone from the little boy who always did what he was told to the boy who never listens and who is never happy. I want my son to be happy again. Can anyone help? Let me give some background...My son is 8, has ADD, is educably mentally impaired, emotionally impaired, and is perceptual deficit. Recently his biological mother left him to me and his father and has abandoned him. She has no custodial rights left, she gave them up. I love this child as much as my own and want to help him. I always tuck him in bed and give him the chance to talk, but even if he is angry, he tells me nothing is wrong. One minute he could be laughing and playing, the next, yelling at me or some one else and crying. Sometimes I'm not sure if he even knows why he is upset. How can I find out why he is upset and what triggers him? Could I be trying to hard and making him push away?
I would think that being abandoned by his biological mother is a probable cause of his anger. Think of him as being in conflict with loving you and your husband...he does, and wants too, but also when he does he opens up to trust which has already been violated by his mother. If you can find a social worker or psychologist in your community that deals with children, he or she will be able to guide you further.
I also have a 13year old son who is very angry. He has been on ritilan since 6. Just swithched to Adderall 20mg at first of the year. The doctor thinks he might have a mood disorder or borderline personality disorder. We're praying for a simpler answer. I cant help but wonder if the meds bring on the anger. But if not for the meds her cant concentrate. He's Adhd. He's starting therapy this week hopfully that will give us some direction. My advise to the Mom with the 8 year old is get help now before it gets worse! My prayers are with you!
Thank you. We have had our son on adderall for two years and in counseling for a year. I think you might be right about the mood swings or making them worse. I have done some reasearch on the adderall, but I have found nothig that says thats a side effect.
I ALSO WONDER IF THE DRUGS ARE TURNING MY CHILD INTO AN ANGRY, FRUSTRATED PERSON. HE WAS NEVER LIKE THIS TILL HE WAS PUT ON MEDS.
I ALSO HAVE A 15 YEAR OLD SON THAT HAS BEEN ON RITALIN,CONCERTA, ADERALL,AND ADERALL XR. VERYING DOSES BECAUSEWE HAVE NOT FOUND EXACTLY WHAT WORKS. I MYSELF FOUGHT THE ADD DIAGNOSIS THING FOR A LONG TIME. FINALLY I FELT FORCED BY THE SCHOOL SYSTEM TO DO SOMETHING OR MY CHILD WAS GONNA BE LEFT BEHIND.LIVING IN LA.THEY DON'T OFFER MUCH IN HELP, WHEN IT COMES TO EDUCATION. I HAVE FELT ALL ALONG THAT, WHEN A TEACHER HAS A CHILD THAT DOESN'T FIT THE MOLD OF THE PERFECT STUDENT,IMMEDIATLEY THEY SEEM TO WANT YOU TO MEDICATE YOUR CHILD TO HELP THEM DO THEIR JOB.
ANYWAY,MY SON TOO,WAS A SWEET AND JOYFUL CHILD AND NEVER ANGRY, ALWAYS JOKING AROUND AND EXTREMEMLY FUN TO BE AROUND. WE PUT HIM ON MEDS,I THINK AT AROUND 2ND OR 3RD GRADE.WITHIN ONE YEAR HE HAS BECOME PROGRESSIVELY ANGRY,WITH SPURTS OF EXTREME ANGER. HE HAS STARTED LIEING AND SWEARS NOT REMEMBERING A CONFRONTATION THAT HAPPENED IN THE MORNING AFTER HE GETS HOME FROM SCHOOL. HE SCREAMS AT ME AND HIS SIBLINGS WHEN HE GETS ANGRY. YOU CAN CATCH HIM IN A LIE AND HE WILL ADEMANTLY DENY HE IS LIEING WHEN YOU HAVE HARD FACTS RIGHT IN FRONT OF HIM OR YOU WITNESSED THE LIE.
HE CAN ALSO, AT TIMES, BE VERY NICE AND KIND TO HIS SIBLINGS, BUT LET HIM GET INTO ONE OF HIS MOODS, WHICH IS A LOT, AND HE IS IMPOSSIBLE TO LIVE WITH, AND NOT TRUSTWORTHY AT ALL. HE LIES TO US SO MUCH, THAT WE CAN HARDLY EVER BELIEVE HIM AND HE DIESN'T UNDERSTAND WHY AND DINIES THAT HE HAS EVER LIED TO US.
HE HAS ALWAYS SAID THE MEDS DON'T DO HIM ANY GOOD. HIS GRADES ARE HORRIBLE, ALWAYS F'S IF NOT ON THE BORDERLINE. HE HAS BARELY MADE IT THROUGH EVERY GRADE. WHEN WE TALK TO HIM ABOUT HIS SCHOOL WORK, HE SOMETIMES CRIES AND SAYS HE IS TRYING BUT THE TEACHERS SAY HE HAS TO BE REDIRECTED CONSTANTLY. HE DOESN'T DO ASSIGNMENTS THAT ARE TO BE TURNED IN TILL HE IS FORCED, IF I KNOW ABOUT IT. HE ALWAYS SAYS HE DOESN'T HAVE HOMEWORK, WHEN SOMETIMES HE DOES. HE IS IN THE 8TH GRADE NOW AND HAD TO TAKE THE LEAP THIS YEAR TO PASS. WE DON'T KNOW YET THE RESULTS OF THAT. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS HE IS PASSING BUT HAS NOT LEARNED MUCH AND DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE ANY CONCERN OVER ANYTHING AT ALL. PLEASE IF SOMEONE CAN SUGGEST SOMETHING THAT CAN HELP, PLEASE POST A MESSAGE OR E MAIL ME.
ALSO, IF THERE ARE ANY PARENTS OUT THERE, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN THROUGH THIS AND THERE CHILD IS IN COLLEGE OR OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL, CLUE ME IN ON WHAT TO EXPECT IN THE FUTRE, IS THERE A LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNELL???
Reading your message reminds me of my son. His grades are getting better only because he knows this will get us off his back. He is currently seeing a Therapist and Psychiatrist only because we didnt know where to turn. This all started this January. He's in 7th grade. Been on ritlain since age 6 changed to addreall xr last two months grades improved. But the rage is still there. Outburst when things do go his way. The doctor recomended I read The Bipolar Child which I have and my son could possibly have Bipolar I refuse to believe we've come to this. But he's very hard to live with. Never knowing whats around the corner.You might what to check out the web site
www.bipolarchild.com or www.bpkids.org. I know thats not what your want to hear. But mood swings are the major sign. My son is addopted so cant check the family tree for any history. You might check there. Good Luck
I would first take your son to a non psychiatrist Doctor and have a complete physical examine. The Doctor should look for any food alergies or possibly mold allergies. I know of a couple of stories where the kids acted up only in school and after the parents found a specialist in allergies who then even went to the childs school and tested air quality. They found high concentrations of mold, collected it and in a neutral site gave the child a cloth patch to breath that had been soaked in a mixure of the mold and low and behold the child reacted to the mold and became unruly,angry and began swearing at the Doctor.
Please checkout www.alternativementalhealth.com. You may also have to take an honest look at the childs eating habits and record what he was eating just previous to his outburst. Many Doctors for some reason are unwilling to connect the mood to glandular function. Adrenaline is called the fight (anger) or flight (anxiety and depression)hormone. The mind can only be as healthy as the food we eat.
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Conquering Anxiety, Depression and Fatigue Without Drugs - the Role of Hypoglycemia
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Stress is often blamed as the root cause for anxiety, depression and fatigue, but, although stress can make any problem worse, the source of such problems is often physical in nature. And hypoglycemia is one of the major physical causes.
This article covers the following:
What is Hypoglycemia? - the cause of hypoglycemia and its effects.
Typical Hypoglycemia Symptoms - the wide range of mental, emotional and physical symptoms.
Testing for Hypoglycemia - standard medical testing and why it is often unreliable.
The Solution to Hypoglycemia - a list of dietary and nutrient recommendations, with special notes and cautions.
Recommended Reading - books and other references that will give you a more complete understanding.
What is Hypoglycemia?
First of all, let's be clear on one major point - hypoglycemia is not a "disease" in that you either have it or don't, it is a condition, and, in most cases, it is fully reversible.
Some types of hypoglycemia are caused by a tumor or other physical damage to a gland. However, that is rare, and not the focus of this article. The more common type of hypoglycemia - called "functional," "reactive," or "fasting" - is your body's reaction to what you put in it.
Hypoglycemia is the body's inability to properly regulate blood sugar levels, causing the level of sugar in the blood to be too low or to fall too rapidly.
Blood sugar, in the form of glucose, is the basic fuel for all brain operation and physical activity, including muscular. If the available fuel is too inadequate, any marginal physical or mental system may start to shut down. In addition, the glandular imbalances that result, as the glands struggle to regulate the sugar level, cause their own symptoms - especially high adrenaline, which is usually perceived as anxiety or panic, but, in some cases, can lead to violence. (Am I saying this has something to do with domestic violence and street crime? YES! And there is expert congressional testimony to back this up.)
Here is a typical pattern:
1. You eat or drink excess sugar (the average American consumes well over 100 lbs/yr.).
2. The body releases insulin to put sugar into storage, but the insulin response is excessive (due to ADAPTATION and/or chromium deficiency).
3. About 2 hours later so much sugar has been put into storage that there is not enough left in the blood, and you get a low-blood-sugar emergency.
Symptoms such as weakness and mental fog begin.
4. The body responds to the emergency by dumping adrenaline into the system.
More symptoms follow from the high adrenaline, such as racing heart, anxiety, etc., etc., etc..
5. The roller coaster rises and falls in critical hormones, causing an unbalance in all the hormones and often resulting in ongoing symptoms.
Many Americans have hypoglycemia to a greater or less degree. The symptoms comprise a remarkably long list and range from mild discomfort to being completely incapacitated.
Typical Hypoglycemia Symptoms
Following is a list of symptoms I've drawn from multiple sources, plus my own observations. The list is long because symptoms result not only directly from low blood glucose but also from the glandular imbalances that result, especially high adrenaline. Only one or two symptoms may be present, but most often, you will find several.
Note that although I've listed mental and physical symptoms separately, they often overlap.
Anxiety - ranging from constant worry to panic attacks.
Phobias - claustrophobia, agoraphobia, acrophobia, and so on. This is anxiety tied to a particular issue.
Depression - especially with females
Violent outbursts - especially with males
Obsessive Compulsive Behavior
Forgetfulness - this may just be choline/inositol deficiency.
Inability to concentrate
Unsocial, Asocial, Anti-Social behavior
Nightmares & night terrors - terror can continue after you wake up. It is especially indicative of hypoglycemia if you wake in a cold sweat, if the terror continues, if there is pressure on the chest, or if you are unable to breathe.
Headaches - especially if a meal is missed.
Tachycardia - racing pulse due to high adrenaline.
Fatigue, weakness, "rubbery" legs.
Tremor or trembling of arm, leg, or whole body (outside or inside)
Twitching, jerking, or cramping of a leg muscle - cramping may be just calcium or magnesium deficiency or food allergy response.
Waking after 2-3 hrs sleep
Tinnitus - ringing in the ear, due to high insulin in about 70 % of tinnitus cases.
Abnormal weight - too high or too low.
Compulsive craving for sweets, colas, coffee, alcohol
Lack of appetite
A diagnosis of "mitral valve prolapse"
Crawling sensations on skin
Smothering spells - gasping for breath
Red blotches on skin or circular arcs of red skin
Lack of sexual drive
Chest pain - severe, but EKG normal.
Can't tolerate bright light or loud sounds
Another clue is that the symptoms are usually worse in the early morning after waking, and get better after being up and around a full day.
It's a remarkably long list and for very good reasons!
Many of the above symptoms can be found in the standard PDR
(Physician's Desk Reference) as the typical expected side effects
for a NORMAL HEALTHY person given an injection of adrenaline
(alternate name epinephrine).
Why should anyone not injected with adrenaline have such symptoms? To understand what is going on, we have to understand how humans have been designed to survive emergencies. Suppose you meet a tiger on the road. What happens? Immediately an emergency situation is detected and the adrenal gland dumps adrenaline. The adrenaline prepares you for vigorous
muscular activity. It brings sugar out of storage for muscular action. It raises the heart rate so your blood circulates faster and turns off digestion. You are now prepared for FIGHT or FLIGHT.
Some people will fight, their adrenaline response will be ANGER, most people will run, their adrenaline response is felt as FEAR.
In most cases, the simplest WORKING DEFINITION OF ANXIETY is the way you perceive HIGH ADRENALINE. If adrenaline is moderately high for too long a time, people feel anxious and wonder why. This is called "free-floating " anxiety.
If, on the other hand, adrenaline shoots up to a very high value rapidly, and
then decreases rapidly, the anxiety is brief but intense. This is called a "panic attack." If you regularly pick a particular thing to tie the anxiety to, such as high places, that's called a "phobia." What's the problem? What's wrong with the life-saving response to a tiger on the road?
The human body, because it's a wonderful self-adjusting system has a mechanism called ADAPTATION. If you repeatedly have emergencies the body learns to dump larger and larger amounts of adrenaline at the slightest hint of an emergency. The adrenal gland puts out about 60 different hormones- repeated requests for adrenaline dumps will affect all the others.
A hair-trigger adrenaline response is not what you want in modern life. What happens in modern life is that several times a day many people have low-blood-sugar emergencies. This leads to adrenaline dumping and ANXIETY, it also leads to hormonal imbalances.
NORMAL SUGAR PROCESSING: Eat food including sugar; pancreas
releases insulin; insulin puts excess sugar into storage for use later.
"REACTIVE HYPOGLYCEMIC" PROCESSING: Consume excessive sugar food
or beverage; pancreas dumps excess insulin (remember ADAPTION);
About two hours later blood sugar crashes to emergency level; adrenal
gland dumps excess adrenaline (remember ADAPTION); RESULT=ANXIETY
and HORMONAL IMBALANCE
The saving grace is that hypoglycemia, even early-stage diabetes when the pancreas starts to give up, is fully reversible with diet and nutritional supplements.
Testing for Hypoglycemia
Standard medical testing for hypoglycemia is the Glucose Tolerance Test (GTT). The person being tested is required to fast for 12 hours, then have a drink with a super-high sugar content - a disaster plan for someone with hypoglycemia. The blood is then tested every 30 minutes, for 6 hours. Unfortunately, the test is unreliable as it is frequently done in an inadequate way or is misinterpreted.
The most frequent problems with the GTT are:
The test is run for less than 6 hours - a 3 -hour test certainly can't catch a drop at the 5.5 hour point).
The test measures glucose level but fails to measure insulin and adrenaline - your blood sugar may be holding up because your adrenal gland is dumping huge amounts of adrenaline. Glucose alone can't tell the full story.
The symptoms are not carefully observed during the test - the classic story is of a man who went for his test, drank the sugar solution, became violent, and smashed the furniture in the waiting room. Upon leaving, he was given a bill for the furniture, and a test stamped "normal!" His glucose level didn't go below the level that lab used as an absolute criterion! If you become violent during the test, or faint, or break out in a cold sweat and start shaking you have FAILED the test REGARDLESS of the NUMBERS!
The rate of drop in blood sugar is ignored - the lowest glucose level is important, but the rate of drop is just as important. Falling too rapidly from high-normal to low-normal represents poor regulation and will give symptoms.
Because of the above testing problems, hypoglycemia is best diagnosed by its symptoms.
The Solution to Hypoglycemia
To reverse the condition, the glands must be allowed to recover. This is done by eliminating all foods and beverages that deliver sugar rapidly. Thus the cure for "low blood sugar" is to AVOID sugar and simple carbohydrates, like white wheat flour, that convert rapidly into sugar.
Stress, of course, makes all problems worse. And if you can eliminate all stress - fine. But, realistically, it is much easier to simply control what you consume.
My recommendations for handling hypoglycemia consist of diet, and nutritional supplements. There are also excellent full-length books available in the Recommended Books list at the end of this article. I especially recommend books 1 and 2.
Best foods to eat
raw mixed salad greens
seeds and nuts (not peanuts)
cooked greens (Collard greens, Mustard greens, Spinach etc.)
organic eggs (hardboiled for safety)
whole grains (one at a time)
carry seeds & nuts.
Freshly made vegetable juices. Most hypoglycemics should probably limit carrots in juice form to about 1/day or less, as a sweetener for other veggies.
Spring or filtered water.
Herbal tea - from one or two herbs, not "naturally flavored" blends.
Worst food ingredients
The packaging for some foods can be misleading. For example, many packages will say "Sugar Free." However, if you read the ingredients, you will find types of sweeteners just as harmful. Therefore, it is important to read all labels carefully.
Hypoglycemics should avoid the following:
Sugar - this includes sucrose, fructose, raw sugar (sugar + dirt), brown sugar (sugar, dyed brown), corn syrup, "dried cane juice", "raisin juice" etc., molasses, malt, malted barley, even maple syrup and honey.
Hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated oils - including vegetable shortening and margarine. These are hormone imbalancers.
White wheat flour and white rice - nutrients that prevent heart disease & cancer are removed from these products to give longer shelf life. Fiber is also removed, therefore the starch rapidly converts to sugar.
Peanuts & Corn - high mold sources which tax the immune system.
Special Notes and Cautions About Diet
The above list represents my personal current opinion, and is periodically modified. Consideration was given both to the influence on sugar metabolism, and on general health. Many foods not listed above as best or worst can be eaten in moderation, assuming of course that you are not allergic to them. Additionally, the following factors need to be observed
If you can't get "organic" foods, use non-organic foods less often.
If you are a vegetarian, of course eliminate animal foods. The vegetarian route requires more knowledge and more work; but I currently believe that, in the long run, it gives the best health in most cases - for hypoglycemics as well as "normals."
Food allergy and reactive hypoglycemia frequently go hand in hand. If you are allergic to one or more of the best foods, then they are not acceptable for you.
Individual food allergies must be carefully considered with any restrictive diet. For example, a grain-based diet can be a disaster for someone with grain allergies, even if the carbohydrate level can be tolerated. Another example is eggs, which are a common allergen.
To find out what you are allergic to is a gradual process of learning which involves primarily selective elimination, for at least 5 days, with careful observation of symptoms.
Likes and Dislikes
I also believe that you must be reasonably comfortable with your food choices to assimilate the food properly, i.e. foods you hate won't make a good diet for you.
Beware of Liquids Containing Sugar
Liquids containing sugar deliver sugar to the body too rapidly. In addition to obvious disasters such as sodas, colas, sweetened coffee (a double whammy if caffeine is present), and alcohol (behaves like liquid sugar), you should also AVOID FRUIT JUICES (an exception is grapefruit which can usually be tolerated in moderation, perhaps 4 oz./day)
AVOID SKIM MILK. Milk would be O.K. for hypoglycemics, but a harmful enzyme, Xanthine Oxidase, makes it a bad choice for all. Consider instead organic yogurt, from whole milk, NOT skim or low-fat. The harmful enzyme Xanthine Oxidase is de-activated when yogurt and cheeses are made.
Avoid Artificial Sweeteners
Artificial sweeteners have been a major American health disaster, especially aspartame, and should not even be considered as a substitute for sugar. They make recovery for hypoglycemics much more difficult and are a major health hazard.
The most important of the supplements are high level vitamin C - which is the primary support for the adrenal gland - and a good multiple formula containing chromium.
The best type of vitamin C, and the easiest to take in my opinion, is POWDERED Vitamin C (Ascorbic Acid).
I recommend Allergy Research (Willner stock # 10004), or Freeda (C PWD "Dull"- Willner stock # 14267, 4 oz & # 14268 16 oz).
Solgar Vitamin C Crystals do not dissolve as well but are still effective, and widely available.
The dosage depends on how serious your symptoms are. A general guideline for most people having uncomfortable symptoms would be 10 grams (10,000 milligrams) per day. A level teaspoon of powder or crystals gives about 4 grams, a heaping teaspoon 5 grams. Therefore two heaping teaspoons per day would give 10 grams. This should be split into two or more servings at different times during the day, preferably with meals. If you are not used to these levels, start with less and work up over a few days. An extra teaspoon can always be taken if you start to feel bad - indigestion, a headache, dizzy, a panic attack starting, etc.
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