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Hello everyone. I have a couple of questions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. I was addicted to oxycontin for about 2 years straight, then got off by undergoing an Ibogaine treatment. Ibogaine is truly the greatest thing ever! It works on virtually all your CNS receptors and most importantly the opiate receptors(i.e. mu, phi, kappa) because of this there is no withdrawl from opiates. The only side affect is lack of sleep for a week or so following the Ibogaine(because Ibogaine catches your body up on a tremendous amount of REM sleep in several hours). Anyway, I stayed completley off opiates for over a year following the Ibogaine, and had no desire for them. Recently(about a month ago) I unfortunately started taking oxycontin because i was depressed. Within two weeks of this past month, my tolerance shot back up to old levels. Like before, the oxycontin now doesn't work, and I get very little, if any pleasure from them. Because of this, I stopped for about 3 days and strangely enough had very few, if any withdrawl symptoms. This is my first question. Does anyone know why this is? I mean, it is great, but strange. I didn't even get the most mild symptoms like diarehha, and my mental state was ok. The only thing that I can figure is that by going off the oxy cold turkey, I didn't miss anything, meaning that they were giving me no pleasure to begin with, so when I discontinued them, I probably felt better, more like myself. BUt again, I am blown away that there wasn't any withdrawl. Because I made it 3 days with no side affects I figured that was a good test for withdrawl. I am now taking the oxy's again, not because of fear of withdrawl, but because of depression.
MY second question is about the anti-depressant Cymbalta. This anti affects both Norephineprine and seritonin. DOes anybody know if Cymbalta would have a negative effect, or worsen the effects of withdrawl from oxycontin. I am not sure whether or not the affect it has on norephineprine would counteract the negative effects of opiate withdrawl, or help? A doctors feedback would be helpful. Bottom line is that I have gotten a prescription for Cymbalta and don't no if I should take it or not? Will it help? Please help me with everything I need to know about Cymbalta. Even in theory, would it help alliviate the symptoms of opiate withdrawl?
Its a relatively new drug and the side effects are not completely known yet, and certainly there is no clinical information re its relation to oxytocin. I suggest that you deal with your depression without medication but look at what you are afraid to look at with a competent therapist as your guide. Since you have been addicted,this means that you are using medication to avoid dealing with your interior mind...time to change directions.
Your response is valid and appreciated. I assume you are a doctor. If so, I am attempting to get some feedback on the basic workings of Cymbalta on the CNS. Regardless of its lack of research because it is a new drug, the fundementals are the same. Cymbalta works on both Seritonin and norephinephrine. Because of this, would it help or hurt the withdrawl affects from Oxycontin/opiates? I recognize my problem and will seek theraphy, but for the first step, i need to get off of the Oxycontin with the least amount of withdrawl. Because I was taking oxycontin to help my depression,, I thought it may be reasonable to try Cymbalta for a short period of time why I get into therapy. Cymbalta provides a reuptake inhibitor for norephinephrine. When withdrawling from Oxy's, is this something that could help the CNS and alliviate withdrawl symptoms? Or is Oxy's effect on the CNS such that the Cymbalta will make it worse? I am looking for a medical explanation. I anticipate your response
Hi, I am also a recovering alcoholic addict and would concur with the doc's response-find a good therapist trained in addictions. I am currently withdrawing off of Cymbalta (45 mg qd) and it is absolutely horrible. It is as bad, if not worse then when I withdrew from Effexor (and the booze 11 years ago!). I would not recommend it but you need to consult with an Addiction Psychiatrist as you may have an underlying mental health issue. These docs have special training and are the best suited in determing what medications would best help you get stabalized and support you ability to refrain from another relapse. Good luck-and hope you can get some support! (AA and NA are great-what have you got to lose?)
Hi I'm not sure how to start this is my first time reaching for help.I am addicted to vicoden o.c. percocet anyone I can get to help me threw the day. I just got out of a mentaly abusive relationship of 11 years feel I am starting to liv for myself I just am sick of depending on these horrible pills to get me threw. I went back to school and really am doing well but I started taking the pills about 6 years ago and it just got worse now I need them please give me advise on how to get off them there is nothing more in my life right now then to be sober again can't handle the withdrawals tried many time I have a great family but I put them threw hell when I was a teenager had a cocaine problem haven't touched it in over 12 years they helped mainly my sister. I am very scared because I am have a tingling feeling in my right side by my ribcage not my gallbladder, had that removed and was giving vicoden for pain and this is where it started.I just started getting into medical school afraid I could have caused liver or kidney damage. Please any feed back would be great. Thank You Kris
Hello, I would first like to start things off by saying that i was raped for the most of my childhood. So as i got older, i began to experiment with weed and other petty drugs. I first used oxycontin yesterday, and i really loved the effect that it brought me. Today i have been very tired and have had heavy perspiration, could these be signs of withdrawl?
To the guy with the Oxcy problem. I have used it for extreem lower back pain. Chronic back pain. Disabling back pain! And yet, I cannot seem to find a doctor that wants to prescibe it. How in the world do you get it for "depression? I keep getting the excuse, " You will get liver damage." I would rather take the risk and reduce my pain, then worry about some future possible, problem with my liver. Chronic pain CAUSES depression! Like suicide! I have found that Methadose works as well as Oxcycodone and you don't have the ups and downs you have with Oxcy. Also, the withdrawal from Oxcy are devistating. After ony 1 1/2 months of usage, unbelievable withdrawals!!!!! I have never heard of any doctor prescribing Oxcycodone for depression???
Good luck with your depression. I agree with the other answer to your question. "Time to go a different direction." Whenever you use medication to solve a problem, you end up with a problem solving the medication. ..BD1171
One of my best friends was addicted to this mess. I would watch him crush it up and snort it and i never did anything until he got sick. he ended up with pancreitis. People don't realize that this goes through your entire body, blood stream. He lost his wife and children, and a wonderful job. It can get that bad if you think if can''t happen to you. He said the same thing the first couple times he popped pills. Get help. I held him like a little baby for over a week while he vomited, cried, and shook uncontrollably. I couldn't belive this was a pill man, he could have been shooting up for all it was worth.
Both my mother and my father were in a bad car accident in 1991. They both had cronic pain since then. They were on Oxycontin. As the years progressed they became more and more addicited to the pills. They would crush them and snort them one after another until they would be completely different people. They begain selling their pills to make ends meet, but than they would be out of meds, so they would have to go on the streets and find whatever they could, coke, methedone, herion, roxycodne, you name it they were doing it. Both of my parents always said it was the worst thing that had ever happened to them. They told their docoter they wanted weaned off, but he didn't take away their persciptions, he just gave them nonnarcotic patches, and pills to stop stomach sickness. There was one point that I hadn't heard from my parents for a few days so I went to thier home to find them passed out, I made sure they were still breathing and put them to bed. On May 6, 2005 my mother couldn't handle the withdrawls anymore and she commited suicide in front of my father and my husband. My father went into a treatment program and is now off everything. I didn't write this to upset anyone or make anyone feel bad for me, but to tell you that if you need help go to a treatment center for help. It's not easy. You all are wonderful people and you deserve to beat this drug. Email if you want to talk....I have plenty more I could tell you about my parents.
Sorry to hear about you'r Mom, but it seems her passing was not in vain due to you still having you'r Father alive and well.
I am an x-Oxi addict an new to this forum, only 3 weeks clean but still going strong. Don't know if I can help, or you just need to vent, I would love to help. Thank you.
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