Need help with some questions please :D

[icthings]

Hello! I'm 19 years old and I'm doing an essay on suicide...and now I wanna know some things hope you can help me, the questions are: (all questions are about slitting wrist) (sorry for my bad english I am from el salvador :D)

-How long does it takes for you to bleed to death

-What happens if you survive? do you get some kind of mental problem?

-The loss of blood can produce problems of any kind i.e mental, loss control of something or...idk whatever?

-And last question, is it possible to die from cutting an artery?

Well hope you can help me with my essay :]

[BS65]

I think these are things you could find on the Internet by doing some research.

[Venora Moonwind]

your essay would be a better idea on the prevention of suicide instead wanting to know about the slitting of wrist.
I do think your questions on the board are in poor taste especially with people who are coming to this board for help with their pain and how they get help so they can get better.We dont need to see this kind of thing here.
Now on the other hand if you are asking these questions because you contemplating suicide and are looking for the easiest way to do it I pray that you seek help and call the 1-800 suicide hotline or get yourself to a doc or hospital as soon as possible Suicide isnt the answer.You dont have to suffer and be inpain and agony.
LOve Venora

[icthings]

uhmm well, I don't think I need medical help for wanting to write something like that, I just had some questions and I thought this forum could help...aparantely I was wrong thinking you retards would help, and what if I'm contemplating suicide? Is it hard to answer those questions?  what if i don't live in USA and can call a suicide hotline? what if the only way I can get those questions answered are by lying about a stupid essay? What if I tried on other forums and they just told me to go away, not saying anything else? YES I am contemplating suicide, what's so wrong about wanting to know if I'll become a freaking retard or a cripple if I survive due to the blood loss? Wow..I thought I would get some answers in this so called medical forum, I was so wrong. Well all I got is being judged as always, and now for a person I don't even know, yeah I AM contemplating suicide and not just contemplating, I already decided...I just want to know those things first...(By the way BS65 I did research on the internet, and all I got is...NOTHING what a surprise) so now that you know...are you going to answer those questions?

thanks...


- Alice

[icthings]

Ok and now I am crying...interesting.

[icthings]

Oh yeah, and what exactly is that "you don't need here"? People with questions? OH Wait! it's a forum where people ask questions!! Oh my god!

[BS65]

I have no idea what the answers are to those questions so I can't answer them for you. I have never tried to do any of those things. When I felt like committing suicide I was going to put a gun in my mouth but then I decided to stop focusing on myself and my pain and think about the pain I would cause everyone else in my life, like my family, if I were to kill myself. I know it causes a lot of pain to your family because my cousin shot himself and died and I saw what it did to his mom and dad and brother, not to mention the rest of us. Instead I decided to TRY to get help and talk to someone. You being here is one way of doing that. But you have to remember that we here on this site are not professionals or doctors or counselors and this site isn't a suicide prevention site. But we are people who have been depressed or are currently depressed and have either found a way out of it or are trying to.

I am sorry to hear that you feel you have been brushed off or told to go away on other sites. No one wants to see you or anyone else be so upset that they hurt themselves. But if you are able to call a hotline number you should do so. I have no idea where you live since you said "what if I don't live in the USA" but you do apparently have access to the Internet so you should be able to find a place to call by doing a search. Or let us know where you live and we can try to find some help for you in your area.

[Venora Moonwind]

There is no way I can help you commit suicide by answering those questions.Please try to get some help.I will keep you prayer that you get the help you need.I only write these things here because I care and there is a way out of the depression you are having.You dont need to suffer. So go see your doc or go to hospital and check in to get immediate help.
Let me know how you are.
Love Venora

[icthings]

Well I live in el salvador, I can't find any suicide hotline I can call, I searched on the internet and I didn't find anything...I only found this site of some guys called "The Samaritans" but it doesn't help, they just keep asking and asking weird questions instead of helping, and what would I say to my doctor? "Hello josh, I want to kill myself! can you help me get rid of that feeling?" it just doesn't get away, I tried shoting myself but since my dad died I can't find his gun...so..bleeding to death is pretty much the only option I have...since I don't have much money I can't buy pills or something. Please answer at least how long does it takes to die from that. thanks a lot for at least answering and not telling me to go away or something...thanks

[thejayfunk]

Icthings,

I'm sorry to hear about your problems.  I know that things seem bad right now, but for many people that feeling will go away with some type of intervention.  I know a lot of people who have these problems that they have been able to overcome.  Some people have life events that can cause the chemicals in their brain to become imbalanced, and cause them to feel this way.  

Busque por internet una linea que podrías llamar y parace que la majoridad de estos centros del prevencion del suicido son de España.  Aqui te doy un el sitio y quizas les puede contactar: http://www.telefonodelaesperanza.org/sede.php?type=mm .  También si te vas a tu medico diciendole que tienes este problema, el puede ayudarte contactar un psycologo para que puedes hablar.  Eres muy joven, y yo sé que hay alguien que te puede ayudar.  Tambien, en los hospitales hay gente que le pueden ayudar.  Ok, I'm sorry about my spanish; I studied it as an undergraduate but that was some time ago.  

-J

[Venora Moonwind]

just keep talikng to me.till this suicide moment passes.And it wil pass You are young and you have so much life to live for.I truly understand how you having been suicidal 3 other times in my life.
Are you sleeping eating right and exercising? this will raise your seritonin levels and help you to feel better.it doesnt have to be strenuous exercise,just a brisk walk for at least 30 minutes
What has been going on in life to get you feeling so down?also it helps to keep a journal so you can get out all these negative emotions.so you hang in there and talk to me.
Love Venora

[BS65]

I am not familiar with what is available in El Salvador but are you able to call 1-800 phone numbers? If so you can call any suicide line and ask them to help you. They will and they may even be able to direct you to someone in your area.

[icthings]

Wow, thanks a lot people you guys are the first that really are trying to help...other forums I've been they just told me to go kill myself and don't tell anyone else...I guess so many people telling me that got me more depressed and well...I decided to do it and first wanted to know those things...to the questions if I'm sleeping and eating, well...I eat once a day and sleep for about 3 hours before I wake up crying that's every day, I'm not in the mood to exercise, Right now I just cut myself to relief pain, i've been doing so for about 2 or 3 years but doesnt help anymore, I can't call 1-800 phone numbers, and i've been very cranky, I guess what hurts me more is that my friends just don't care about me...they just tell me to shut up or something. Everyone in my life are just leaving me even my boyfriend left me. (fyi my boyfriend leaving me it's not the cause of my depression...well not the main cause) well i guess that's all thanks.


-Alice

[Venora Moonwind]

Try to take good care of yourself eating balanced meal and getting proper rest and exercise will help alleviate some of the depression.When I get real bad I light incense and take a candlelit bath.I envision the water washing away all the bad feelings and going down the drain.It really helps Try to do some things that you like to do for yourself.Oh and I color in coloring books.It is very relaxing.Do you have any hobbies or interests?Just keep it simple to relax your mind.
Love Venora

[icthings]

Thanks a lot, that's a really good sugestion...I'll try that. Venora I want to thank you a lot fror everything, you helped more than people I know like my friends or some relatives. But I can't eat because...everything I eat makes me want to throw up. I tried taking some pills for that but...they just made me sick. I also tried sleeping pills, I slept for 8 hours but I didnt feel rested, now I normally sleep for about 3 hours maybe 4 at most, but...I'm tired all day. I don't have coloring books but maybe I should get some. Right now I'm really worried, my feelings towards suicide are getting worse, I keep cutting and i'm worried because now it's deeper...I don't know what to do. I just can't take it anymore. well that's all for now.


-Alice

[BS65]

I am wondering if you might have a  phone book like we do here in the U.S. that has numbers you can call and get help. I would also really try to talk to your doctor and let them know you can't sleep and eat and that you are feeling very depressed. Don't be embarrased to talk to your doctor because that is what he or she is there for, to help you.

I am sorry your family and friends aren't there for you like you want them to be. That can be a common problem for people with depression. It isn't that they don't want to all the time but many times it is because they don't know how and it is very draining on family and friends to try to listen to depressed people all the time. It isn't really their fault, it just brings them down. But it is also kind of selfish too so I understand you being upset.

As for other forums and people telling you to go away and go ahead and kill yourself. Well there are a lot of very mean people on the internet and you never know who exactly you could be talking to. A lot of people do and say very VERY mean things and love to fight with people online and then go about their every day lives and act normal. It is like they are getting all their anger in life and frustrations out on people but to strangers because it is safe that way. But to the one receiving it, like you it is bad and hurts. I am just glad you found a good forum where you can talk to people who understand what you are going through.

Keep coming here and don't give up and please talk to your doctor. There are people in the world that do care and we here in this forum, who are talking to you are those people who do care. Stay away from the mean forums and the nasty people and ignore the bad advice as best you can.

Take care!

[icthings]

thanks a lot! that last comment made me feel awesome, I've never felt this so I don't know how to call it..uhmm...let's go for Welcomed! thanks a lot! By the way I don't know how to talk to my doctor, I mean..he'll charge and I don't have enough money to pay him, I live by my own...and I don't know if I should tell my mom about this problem I'm having, she'll never understand I cut myself, nor I want to kill myself and if I do tell her I don't know how will she react, and I don't know if she'll help me or what (she kinda doesn't like me too much, she has another daughter) I'm kinda the black sheep of the family, I'm always the one that's depressed and always the one that's cranky, usually in family meetings I just sit in a corner and read my book or cut myself.

Right now it's when I feel the worse, it's when I start remembering the people that I care about and will never see again, like my ex boyfriend that left me for no reason, obviously I'll never see him again, remembering my dad who died because they robbed him and then killed him, my cousin/best friend who left the country 3 years ago and haven't heard of him ever since, and so on...I dislike crying, I do it alot. I feel lonely, and somehow rejected, I feel like ending my life right now, I don't have anyone, noone will miss me. What should I do?

well thanks a lot for the comments, i really apreciate everyone for trying to help it makes me feel something I never felt before, like, you understande me :] I really apreciate it.

-Alice

[BS65]

Alice,

You are in a tough position because you are correct, a lot of family members and friends don't understand it when people want to cut themselves. I have never done that but I do understand the psychology behind the need to do that. You have felt so much pain inside that you can barely feel anymore so you cut yourself in order to "FEEL SOMETHING". Or maybe you cut yourself because it relieves the deep pain you do feel inside and is the only way to get some of the pain out of you. Many people do this but it is something you should try not to do because it will leave scars, both physically and emotionally, and it is destructive. But just stopping this is easier said then done, I know.

I was wondering if you might have a free clinic there like we do in the U.S. I think there must be some kind of social care program in your country for people with low income isn't there? You might need to do some research on it but it will be worth it.

As for your mom and telling her, I can't really tell you to do that or not to do that because I don't know how she will react but I do think you should tell her that you are feeling very bad inside and you need her right now. Or at least tell her that you need her help to find you some help. And I am very sorry to hear about your dad and the other people who are no longer there in your life. I know exactly how you feel though when it comes to losing people you love. My own dad died in 2001 from a heart attack and during that time my mom was very sick with a disease called Alzheimer's. Since then my mom has become so sick that she doesn't know any of her own kids anymore because her brain is so damaged by this disease. So I have basically lost both my own parents too and it makes me so sad inside sometimes I don't know how to handle it. In fact these are the reasons that back then I too was suicidal myself.

But as you can see it is now 6 years later and I am better and able to function and I moved on with my life. I met a very nice man and I got married and now I am a step-mom to his kids. I am not able to give birth to kids of my own so I was sad about that too. But it worked out in the end because now I have 4 kids. So as you see from me, life can change dramatically and become very good if you can just get past this bad part. It is very hard, I know but worth trying and eventually things do get better if you want them to.

Keep coming here and talking, this is probably the best thing you ever did for yourself. You kept looking for help and you found some here. Now all you need to do is look for some help there in your country that is affordable or a free service and you will probably find something there too.

Good luck to you and take care of yourself today. :-)

B~

[Venora Moonwind]

How are you doing today?I hope you are feeling better.You have been in my thoughts and prayers.
Love Venora

[icthings]

Hi! I'm feeling weird today thanks for asking :) my best friend gave me some pills I don't remember how are they called, I believe it's zoloft or something. Anyways they make me feel kinda dizzy but amazingly happy, bad thing is, they make my heart beat fast, and makes me kinda nausea but besides that it's all good...she gave me a lot of those pills. haven't ate anything in like 2 days , and I can't sleep. I called my doctor and he'll make it free this time, so i think that's good...he won't tell my mom so that kinda makes me happy, well I guess that's all :) thanks :D

-Alice

[Venora Moonwind]

Let me know what the doc says.
Love Venora

[icthings]

Hi! I went to see my doctor today, I only had like 15 minutes with him because he's a busy man I guess, he told me that the fact that I cut myself it's just a desperate call for attention...that I want the attention of my parents so bad that I do that..I don't know but I don't feel like he's right but what do I know. I asked him about the pills I'm taking and he told me the side effects, well I'll continue taking them :], still haven't ate anything...well except for a muffin that a guy gave me :/, today my mom came to visit me to my apartment but the bad thing is, I was cutting on that moment and my room was bloody and she started asking questions and assuming the worse...Oh yeah, my doctor also told me about these psychiatrist that work on a university that they do therapy for $2 so I'm going there tomorrow, (oh yeah my doctor gave me a fishy :D) he told me the consequences of trying to kill myself stuff, it kinda freaked me out. he also said that he's kinda glad that i'm not that suicidal like when he met me...well that's all :D thanks a lot


Alice

[Venora Moonwind]

Well I dont know about cutting for attention but I am gald he told you about the university doc. so hang in there and I will be whenever you want to talk.
Love Venora

[icthings]

Oh my god venora I need to talk to you :( I feel really bad right now I don't know what to do...seriously I feel horrible. I've cut my whole arm...but the pain just doesn't get away. Why is love such a *****!?!

[icthings]

I don't like beeing alone, I hate it..I can't stand it, I get really scared whenever I am alone. I don't think this is normal...I had a friend over to help me forget some of my problems and..when he left I don't know I started crying and crying :/ I feel bad right now I feel like everyone is going to leave me :( why am I feeling this right now?

[Venora Moonwind]

I am here what has been going on?Life can co,me at you really fast .Were you able to get in to see the doc?  My thoughts are with you my friend.I ahve been going thorugh a manic stage my self .I cant sleepSo talk to me and we will work though this.
Love Venora

[icthings]

thanks :/...I wasn't able to see the doctor because the only time i could get a ride there he said he was busy and just told me to go. I feel pretty much alone right now and I'm scared. I can't sleep, I can't eat, when I'm alone I need people and when I'm with people I need to be alone. I don't know what it's going on...I ran out of pills and cutting just doesn't help anymore my best friend got mad at me for my suicidal thoughts and now I'm alone...my light thingy in my room broke and I don't have enough money to buy another one, so I'm just here with my computer...everything is dark and it smells kinda funny. Ok I have to go :S thanks

-Alice

[Venora Moonwind]

I want you to take a walk to raise your seritonin level just a short 30 min.brisk walk It will lift your spirits .Everytime you feel like cutting ,take a walk.Thhis is better thna pills sometimes.Tell me about things you like to do.I like to jsut color sometiems when I am depressed.It takes my mind off thingsand I like to pull the weeds out of my garden.

My cat had 2 kitties and they have 6 toes. their paws are huge.My grandson stared school today.
My doc increased my synthroid to 175mcgs to lower my TSH.I had thyroid cancer last year. I got the treatment and I am clena and green now. my baby grandson is 3 months old today. He is a cute chunky monkey that you just want to squeeze and kiss.

What is it like in El Salvador? The furthest south I have been is to Juarez when I usse to live in

el Paso. Tell me about the weather and where you live.
I will talk later .
Love Venora

[icthings]

Hi! :] well I'm happy for you about your cute grandson :D and teh fact that you're clean :) well...now with what you asked me. Well El Salvador is a weird place...weather it's kinda hot all the time, despite my lack of money I live in a very great neighborhood, my mom is just a  rich snob and she wants her daughter to be just the same...I hate her. I'm everything she doesn't want, I was bad in school, I'm a terrible daughter and..well nevermind I got off the topic. As I was saying El Salvador it's not a place where you can say "Wow I want to go uhmm to the mall I'll go walking there" because there's a big chance you get robed 4-5 times on the way. I could take a walk tho :) but can't go to far. Anyways, I can't stop cutting I just became addicted to it I don't know why, I like bleeding...I like it a lot. I also found another thing I really like, and that's writing my problems and better! having a great person like you helping me :) I can't thank you enough. well that's all for tonight :] byee


-Alice

[icthings]

hi :] just checking if you were back >.<

[Venora Moonwind]

yes we had a pretty wild weekend with lots of flooding from all the rain we got.
How are you doing?I hope the weekend was allright for you.
Love Venora

[icthings]

Hi! I'm glad you're back :)

No...I did not have a good weekend, I got drunk because I was feeling like just a piece of garbage (Notice I said garbage instead of the S word :D that has to mean something) because of my mom, we were arguing and she got mad and told me that I was just an accident that she didn't plan to have me and a lot more hurtfull things, I felt so bad so I went to my apartment and cried and cried...then I went to the supermarket and bought a bottle of vodka and got drunk all alone in my apartment, when I woke up I saw my arm and i notice that i have been cutting myself and now I stained my favorite sweater, great. Today I woke up like ending my life so I decided one thing. It's 6:44 am here, if something good happens in the day I'll reconsider ending my life...on the other hand if nothing happens and if it's a stupid "i dont know why I woke up" day I'll just do it. well that's all for now :) venora and everyone that tried to help thanks a lot for everything I apreciate it.

-Alice

[Venora Moonwind]

Oh homey I am so sorry for the things your mom said.But I am here to tell you you arent accident You are a beautiful and worthy person. you are worthy to be loved.There is something special planned for you by God but you have to talk to HIm and He will show you what it is .Please keep talking to me.We will get you through these dark days. You are in my prayers.
Love venora