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Why go to ER before attempting suicide
My psychologist told me I should go to hospital before I cut or attempt suicide? But what the heck would they do with me then?
I'm sorry you chose this path and I'm sorry if anything I said triggered you to act in this way.
I have been where you are and understand the emotions behind the choices you made.
I think it could be too soon to be thinking about your future. I agree that you need hope and goals but I also think that just getting through each day, for now, is enough.
You don't sound angry that your boyfriend intervened to rescue you. In time you will be thankful.
Someone I know was once told by a doctor to say that she was in a ski mobile accident. You can choose what you tell people, whether that is the truth or some extension of it. This is something that is best worked through with a therapist.
It's good that it's out in the open. It's difficult but it's good.
Trust isn't so hard to earn back. Let people get over their grief and sense of betrayal and their own reaction to the event. In my experience it was months, not years.
Crying is good. It's obvious that you've been holding a lot of stuff in and it needed to come out somehow.
I hope that this doesn't effect your relationship with your psychologist. Sometimes a person can feel let down themselves that their therapist didn't help or didn't intervene.
You do deserve to feel and be better. This will take time and is also something that needs to be worked through in therapy.
I hope you are OK and that you feel better soon. Please don't leave hospital too soon or without the support you feel you need.
Take care and be safe.
((((((((Hugs))))))))
I have been where you are and understand the emotions behind the choices you made.
I think it could be too soon to be thinking about your future. I agree that you need hope and goals but I also think that just getting through each day, for now, is enough.
You don't sound angry that your boyfriend intervened to rescue you. In time you will be thankful.
Someone I know was once told by a doctor to say that she was in a ski mobile accident. You can choose what you tell people, whether that is the truth or some extension of it. This is something that is best worked through with a therapist.
It's good that it's out in the open. It's difficult but it's good.
Trust isn't so hard to earn back. Let people get over their grief and sense of betrayal and their own reaction to the event. In my experience it was months, not years.
Crying is good. It's obvious that you've been holding a lot of stuff in and it needed to come out somehow.
I hope that this doesn't effect your relationship with your psychologist. Sometimes a person can feel let down themselves that their therapist didn't help or didn't intervene.
You do deserve to feel and be better. This will take time and is also something that needs to be worked through in therapy.
I hope you are OK and that you feel better soon. Please don't leave hospital too soon or without the support you feel you need.
Take care and be safe.
((((((((Hugs))))))))
On December 26 I attempted with near succes to take my life. I felt I could no longer survive my life. However thanks to my boyfriend rushing me to the ER and the work of dr's and nurses in the ER are my life was spared I am however in a psych ward and have just been released from 24 hour watch and seeing a psychiatrist daily! I'm torn as to how I feel about my situation and my future but for now I am accepting the help being offered! I will forever be explaining my scars and will have spend years earning the trust of friends and family now that everyone knows! I have spent a lot of times crying in my room but I think I want to get better! I want to feel like I deserve to be better! Thank you for those who commented.
You could try posting on the mood disorders expert forum and ask the doctor there for advice about what to do and how to deal with this situation.
I didn't get the help that I needed at the most opportune time and I have struggled a lot since.
Maybe leave, etc could be arranged for those dates.
It's not being weak. Not getting help perhaps isn't a good decision but it's also perhaps the best one you can make at this time.
So why exactly is it so important to attend court and the birthday parties?? That's kind of you taking some responsibility for decisions you make in life.
I know what you mean though and I think that is about doing stuff that you need to do that you don't want to do.
Try the expert. I'm hopeless with this sort of discussion as I'm often torn. I don't know if I would have gotten help had someone had of told me. Although I sometimes use, this person said I should, ... I find that makes it easier to access help sometimes. It almost gives me permission too.
Good luck.
I didn't get the help that I needed at the most opportune time and I have struggled a lot since.
Maybe leave, etc could be arranged for those dates.
It's not being weak. Not getting help perhaps isn't a good decision but it's also perhaps the best one you can make at this time.
So why exactly is it so important to attend court and the birthday parties?? That's kind of you taking some responsibility for decisions you make in life.
I know what you mean though and I think that is about doing stuff that you need to do that you don't want to do.
Try the expert. I'm hopeless with this sort of discussion as I'm often torn. I don't know if I would have gotten help had someone had of told me. Although I sometimes use, this person said I should, ... I find that makes it easier to access help sometimes. It almost gives me permission too.
Good luck.
you arent weak, its an illness in the same way as flu is, your body simply isnt producing the right chemicals to handle your thoughts & emotions. nothing to be embarrassed about. lots of people go through it. its a hard world & we are often too hard on ourselves i think & we call ourselves failures when really we are doing a great job! get to your doc & get some happy pills, they really do help your brain work better & will help you see through the fog and give you a good nights sleep.
Jaquta you are so right I am afraid of treatment. I am afraid of what people would think of me and scared to death of feeling caught. I'm afraid I will find out things about myself that I don't want to know! I am scared to death about facing my past head on. But I also needed to be here for Christmas and I need to be here for a court date coming up then for birthday parties so probably I cab agree to being committed sometime in early February and I hope to hell that by then I have stopped this nonsense because I hate myself for being so weak I can't stop myself! But really I hate myself that I want to give up on life and not fight for a better one.
Suicide is the easy, and wrong way out.
Easy for me to say?
No, not really.
I used to think about it alot and I knew that if I did it, I wouldn't let anyone know ahead of time.
But then I see that the world is so full of different, interesting places, people and things.
Not to mention, I would hate to break the hearts of my family and friends, while they pick up the mess I left behind.
Its all really selfish thinking in the end.
People who may seem to be happy and content, doesn't mean they really are.
Everyone has problems, but the majority of them can be fixed.
Don't take the easy way out, you will be cheating yourself.
Easy for me to say?
No, not really.
I used to think about it alot and I knew that if I did it, I wouldn't let anyone know ahead of time.
But then I see that the world is so full of different, interesting places, people and things.
Not to mention, I would hate to break the hearts of my family and friends, while they pick up the mess I left behind.
Its all really selfish thinking in the end.
People who may seem to be happy and content, doesn't mean they really are.
Everyone has problems, but the majority of them can be fixed.
Don't take the easy way out, you will be cheating yourself.
Some additional thoughts and comments.
You know that you are most likely not going to wake up feeling changed, with your life as you would like it. One option is to make small changes over a period of time. They all add up and can make a huge difference.
I don't think that the reason is because it is Christmas. I think that the reason is more likely to be something along the lines of you being afraid. Afraid of change, afraid of responsibility, afraid of being judged.
I always have a truckload of excuses too why I can't access help. It's someone's birthday or anniversary or special day. I need to be there for this or that. I have to do this or that. Today's not a good day. I feel OK at the moment. Things aren't that bad. I don't need help. I can do this by myself. They will hospitalize me. They won't help. They will make things worse. It will be awkward. How will I tell my family?
At the end of the day it almost always seems easier just to hurt yourself. Everyone can then see you're unwell and in need of help. And you don't have to justify anything to anyone. People will nurture you. You can get the space that you need or the containment or have a low stimulus environment.
Why would you bother asking for help and taking it when you can hurt yourself and mess up your life and get some sort of superficial support?
What I have learned through experience is that it is best not to run and to accept help when it is offered and to ask for it when it is needed (and if people say no and you still feel like you really need it then ask again).
I have hurt myself a lot, all in the aide of getting support or making stuff disappear but the reality is it never does. You need to change. You need to safeguard your life and your health. You need to take responsibility for these things. All you need to do is make better decisions. Like ask for help.
Hurting myself never helped me and people don't care. They will patch you up and as with me, when I was well enough, sent me out the door without any support.
In hindsight, if I had of just said I needed help and taken it I could have saved myself 10 years of sheer misery. If only I had the courage ... and it wasn't Christmas or a birthday or someone elses need or perceived need that was greater than mine.
If only. Things would have been different. The problem is now nobody wants to help me. People are just so done or over it they don't care.
Have you ever seen an episode of The Biggest Loser. These people sacrifice time with their families so as to gain it in the future and also to gain a better quality life.
We can make excuses but at the end of the day we're just scared. We're too afraid of looking at ourselves and making the necessary changes. Existing or being a passive participant in life is way easier (in the short-term anyway).
Good luck with whichever path you choose. Just please, please don't make the same mistakes I did. I have probably suffered 10 years of hell just to end up dead anyway. Funny how death seems far more comforting and easier than making simple changes.
You know that you are most likely not going to wake up feeling changed, with your life as you would like it. One option is to make small changes over a period of time. They all add up and can make a huge difference.
I don't think that the reason is because it is Christmas. I think that the reason is more likely to be something along the lines of you being afraid. Afraid of change, afraid of responsibility, afraid of being judged.
I always have a truckload of excuses too why I can't access help. It's someone's birthday or anniversary or special day. I need to be there for this or that. I have to do this or that. Today's not a good day. I feel OK at the moment. Things aren't that bad. I don't need help. I can do this by myself. They will hospitalize me. They won't help. They will make things worse. It will be awkward. How will I tell my family?
At the end of the day it almost always seems easier just to hurt yourself. Everyone can then see you're unwell and in need of help. And you don't have to justify anything to anyone. People will nurture you. You can get the space that you need or the containment or have a low stimulus environment.
Why would you bother asking for help and taking it when you can hurt yourself and mess up your life and get some sort of superficial support?
What I have learned through experience is that it is best not to run and to accept help when it is offered and to ask for it when it is needed (and if people say no and you still feel like you really need it then ask again).
I have hurt myself a lot, all in the aide of getting support or making stuff disappear but the reality is it never does. You need to change. You need to safeguard your life and your health. You need to take responsibility for these things. All you need to do is make better decisions. Like ask for help.
Hurting myself never helped me and people don't care. They will patch you up and as with me, when I was well enough, sent me out the door without any support.
In hindsight, if I had of just said I needed help and taken it I could have saved myself 10 years of sheer misery. If only I had the courage ... and it wasn't Christmas or a birthday or someone elses need or perceived need that was greater than mine.
If only. Things would have been different. The problem is now nobody wants to help me. People are just so done or over it they don't care.
Have you ever seen an episode of The Biggest Loser. These people sacrifice time with their families so as to gain it in the future and also to gain a better quality life.
We can make excuses but at the end of the day we're just scared. We're too afraid of looking at ourselves and making the necessary changes. Existing or being a passive participant in life is way easier (in the short-term anyway).
Good luck with whichever path you choose. Just please, please don't make the same mistakes I did. I have probably suffered 10 years of hell just to end up dead anyway. Funny how death seems far more comforting and easier than making simple changes.
Wow thanks everyone there are a lot of great suggestions and ideas! You have no idea how much I know I need to be contained but I cannot agree to it because it Christmas and I have to work and my kids and going away just isn't gonna work for me right now. I want help and I am sure it's far from over all this!
My psychologist asked me if I want to survive this and I honestly don't know if I want to be a survivor! What I want is to be plucked out of my life and put back when I'm all better, and have it so nobody realized I was gone! I happen ti know that ALL my problems would still be there and then some!
Anyhow that you all for trying!
My psychologist asked me if I want to survive this and I honestly don't know if I want to be a survivor! What I want is to be plucked out of my life and put back when I'm all better, and have it so nobody realized I was gone! I happen ti know that ALL my problems would still be there and then some!
Anyhow that you all for trying!
I think it is a good suggestion. Your psychologist should have taken some responsibility for your safety though, in my opinion.
If you accept treatment they will help you. That could be in hospital or in the community whichever you collectively decide is best for you at the time.
If you say you'll harm yourself, etc and won't accept treatment then they will have no choice but to commit you to involuntary treatment.
It's anyone's guess what they'll do but you should be assessed by a psychiatrist. If safety is an issue, and it sounds like it is, they should hospitalize you or encourage you to go to hospital. Crisis respite may also be an option. That provides some sense of safety but is not hospital.
Tell them what you feel you need, etc. They may be able to work stuff through with you and give you that extra support that you need.
Hopefully they would listen to you and act appropriately. You sound a little like I use to be. I was really lucky I had a good psychologist for a period.
I think what you need is containment.
If you accept treatment they will help you. That could be in hospital or in the community whichever you collectively decide is best for you at the time.
If you say you'll harm yourself, etc and won't accept treatment then they will have no choice but to commit you to involuntary treatment.
It's anyone's guess what they'll do but you should be assessed by a psychiatrist. If safety is an issue, and it sounds like it is, they should hospitalize you or encourage you to go to hospital. Crisis respite may also be an option. That provides some sense of safety but is not hospital.
Tell them what you feel you need, etc. They may be able to work stuff through with you and give you that extra support that you need.
Hopefully they would listen to you and act appropriately. You sound a little like I use to be. I was really lucky I had a good psychologist for a period.
I think what you need is containment.
Well first and most importantly, they wont let you do it. And there are also specialists there for "psych" patients who will talk with you and hopefully talk you out of it. I think every hospital is probably different, but my friend's mom works at an ER and whenever someone comes in from a suicide attempt or a suicide threat they bring them to a special section where they go under evaluation. Sometimes they will keep you as an inpatient if they are concerned you are in harm of yourself or of others.
I know that I have always been advised that if I had any thoughts of self harm (I have not had this concern but like everyone I have been told) that I would act on that the best thing to do would be to go to the hospital. The reason for this is that hospitals are not just there to help people afterwards. They are there to help people have their treatment and other concerns addressed so that this doesn't happen to begin with. It would also be worthwhile to have your psychiatrist find a referral to a hospital in your area that they believe could best help you and speak to them as well in case this should happen.
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