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help for depression
There seem so many asking for help and those who say that they cannot find it either do to money problems which seems to be the biggest reason, or other matters. I use to be in that spot and felt so alone and that no one cared. This is not good for anyone esp. anyone so depressed that they think of hurting themselves or someone else. Can med help help, perhaps offer a link of known help that these people can search out? The fact that they found medhelp and tried finding help here is a start at least they want help, but if they feel that they can't find help even here I am so afraid of what the outcome will be for them. I feel so helpless as I read the site on depression and medication problems,I don't feel that I can do enough to help these people and I myself never knowing when I'll end up gone from medhelp for awhile or forever with my own health problems. I feel that those I have talked to really are in need of proffesional, carring help and that there must be a way to help them find it no matter what the need???????????????
True friends are hard to find, I think it best to trust no one that way you don't get hurt so bad when someone you felt a friend turns their back and walks away. By the way I am off all depression meds. I worked off slowly and except for those darn electrical stuff upstairs ya I feel good. But I'll see how it goes before I decide if it is a good thing or not.
I enjoyed it, your statement, truth is I have been able to keep control and not ever put myself on a lower level then them, the psychs. It makes them mad if they can't control you esp. if you can start to get some control on them. Ever watch them squirm? I am talking about the ones working against you. I have a good Doc. too, like a big brother to me, really does care and is always there for me. Depression alot of the time can be worked out alone but when it gets tough its good to have some one you can trust and talk to. Sometimes I think that the meds are just for control over you but sometimes I am glad to have them but its I who shall decide if I need them or shall stay on them no one else! Its my life and your right they have not walked in my shoes!
Hi again,
Good to see some spirit and fight in you guys (male or female, same, same in D land). Far too many of us lay down and let life roll over us and we say nothing and run away.
I've done all that of course, big time, for far too long and eventually had to learn to ignore what others thought and stick it up 'em if I was going to survive.
I have a great doc and a very supportive partner and that's what's got me through so the rest of society can go enjoy themselves, singulalry so. I learnt to shove it down their throats when I met people, not first words but soon as it was relevant. I said I had D and what did they think of that?
In truth most ran away and thought I was evil or something wrong with me as I'm supposed to hid D and be ashamed. instead I have flaunted it and for one reason. I have not one long term friend who has stood by me. Not one, all cowards. But most were like me really, big drinkers, all cowards like I was.
I understand it, depression, my version anyway. I spent many years working it out, researched it, learnt how it worked, what it did to me and let it do it's stuff when it had to. No fighting it when it's in charge for me as that is what really hurt me in the past, trying to stop it. Now I treat it like my ex best friend. You know, the friend who knows you inside out and turns on you. Knows where to hit and where to poke to make me hurt.
So now I just ignore it and virtually say, go ahead, do it, won't hurt me as I know what is happening. Then I go sleepy times if I can.
But, aside from rambling, my point is this.
Being political is the only way things are gonna change, ever. What we know as truth is that the same percentage of those in power also feel what we do but they are not permnitted to say, generally. So we should target those people as our levers when we know who they are. They have some power, we have none.
Being political though can destroy us as we get hopeful and always shattered as we must realise whatever we do today is unlikely to help us, you and me, in our life times. I'm 58 so it ain't gonna change by then. I'm Australian so we have a reasonable health system compared to the US but the mentally ill, if I may call us that, still get the droppings from male cattle as support unless we pay extra. Right?
So we have to protect ourselves, know our individual limitations and only contribte what we can, when we can. The least level simply being open about having D, to break down the stigma. Example. If the topic comes up and someone asks you if you have suffered D answer with "Of course, haven't you? I thought everyone did." or similar. You see the intent? Make it normal.
Am I involved in mental illness as Chick asks? Why yes, I am. I have had depression for 48 years. What better qualification is there? I have no education in it, it's all self learnt mainly through a need to understand what was thought of as the enemy originally and now is just an illness, a constant companion who doesn't thrill me.
What do I do in the wider view? I write on many D forums, frequently getting banned for being too honest and open and challenging the bizarre ideas people present as fact. That does make me angry but it's OK. Ignorance always protects itself. And blog too, any time the topic comes up. Just keep pushing the notion that D is normal and needs society to accept such.
I write to help one or two people a week if I can, try to make them think about themselves and gey away from the norm of lying back waiting for meds to do the trick. I figure if I get through to anyone they too will get through to others and so on. As happened to me, my doc got through to me, the one I still see.
To Chick, yes I too know the pain of suffering an injury and actually expecting the support paid for by the employer to help me. Like you, they didn't, they helped the employer. Only. Why should I be surprised? You know even today I still expect the best of people first. Wait for them to reveal the truth.
One other major point I'd like to make to you Chicxk is that we, you and I, and us here, should never let anyone, doc, pdoc, therapist or counsellor direct our lives in any way. If we give our life to them to control they will screw it up as they don't feel what we do.
Try to learn to treat them all as used car sales people. Don't trust what they say because they say it. Test it, research it, ask them to justify it. It's your service, you pay for it, they work for you. Don't lose control and if they do start whining about "You won't do what I tell you" throw a tantrum and scream at them about wanting to control you. Something dramatic so they know you have the control. Bit extreme but you get my drift, right?
Your life, you make every decision unless you are not conscious.
To Hensley,
Good to see you writing again, You had a little time away, as we all do. You've got a lot to offer all of us here, share it when you can OK mate?
Couple of you talkiing about what others consider pain. I have to say whatever pain I am currently in is always the worst. Toothache is one I would probably die rather than experience again. I remember trying to throw myself out of a car once as I was hours from help with a tooth ache. So severe.
But yeah, there was a movie I saw once where this girl could transmit her feelings and thoughts by just touching someone. What a weapon that would be! Forget teaching them anything!! They wouldn't know what hit them would they??
Good to see some spirit and fight in you guys (male or female, same, same in D land). Far too many of us lay down and let life roll over us and we say nothing and run away.
I've done all that of course, big time, for far too long and eventually had to learn to ignore what others thought and stick it up 'em if I was going to survive.
I have a great doc and a very supportive partner and that's what's got me through so the rest of society can go enjoy themselves, singulalry so. I learnt to shove it down their throats when I met people, not first words but soon as it was relevant. I said I had D and what did they think of that?
In truth most ran away and thought I was evil or something wrong with me as I'm supposed to hid D and be ashamed. instead I have flaunted it and for one reason. I have not one long term friend who has stood by me. Not one, all cowards. But most were like me really, big drinkers, all cowards like I was.
I understand it, depression, my version anyway. I spent many years working it out, researched it, learnt how it worked, what it did to me and let it do it's stuff when it had to. No fighting it when it's in charge for me as that is what really hurt me in the past, trying to stop it. Now I treat it like my ex best friend. You know, the friend who knows you inside out and turns on you. Knows where to hit and where to poke to make me hurt.
So now I just ignore it and virtually say, go ahead, do it, won't hurt me as I know what is happening. Then I go sleepy times if I can.
But, aside from rambling, my point is this.
Being political is the only way things are gonna change, ever. What we know as truth is that the same percentage of those in power also feel what we do but they are not permnitted to say, generally. So we should target those people as our levers when we know who they are. They have some power, we have none.
Being political though can destroy us as we get hopeful and always shattered as we must realise whatever we do today is unlikely to help us, you and me, in our life times. I'm 58 so it ain't gonna change by then. I'm Australian so we have a reasonable health system compared to the US but the mentally ill, if I may call us that, still get the droppings from male cattle as support unless we pay extra. Right?
So we have to protect ourselves, know our individual limitations and only contribte what we can, when we can. The least level simply being open about having D, to break down the stigma. Example. If the topic comes up and someone asks you if you have suffered D answer with "Of course, haven't you? I thought everyone did." or similar. You see the intent? Make it normal.
Am I involved in mental illness as Chick asks? Why yes, I am. I have had depression for 48 years. What better qualification is there? I have no education in it, it's all self learnt mainly through a need to understand what was thought of as the enemy originally and now is just an illness, a constant companion who doesn't thrill me.
What do I do in the wider view? I write on many D forums, frequently getting banned for being too honest and open and challenging the bizarre ideas people present as fact. That does make me angry but it's OK. Ignorance always protects itself. And blog too, any time the topic comes up. Just keep pushing the notion that D is normal and needs society to accept such.
I write to help one or two people a week if I can, try to make them think about themselves and gey away from the norm of lying back waiting for meds to do the trick. I figure if I get through to anyone they too will get through to others and so on. As happened to me, my doc got through to me, the one I still see.
To Chick, yes I too know the pain of suffering an injury and actually expecting the support paid for by the employer to help me. Like you, they didn't, they helped the employer. Only. Why should I be surprised? You know even today I still expect the best of people first. Wait for them to reveal the truth.
One other major point I'd like to make to you Chicxk is that we, you and I, and us here, should never let anyone, doc, pdoc, therapist or counsellor direct our lives in any way. If we give our life to them to control they will screw it up as they don't feel what we do.
Try to learn to treat them all as used car sales people. Don't trust what they say because they say it. Test it, research it, ask them to justify it. It's your service, you pay for it, they work for you. Don't lose control and if they do start whining about "You won't do what I tell you" throw a tantrum and scream at them about wanting to control you. Something dramatic so they know you have the control. Bit extreme but you get my drift, right?
Your life, you make every decision unless you are not conscious.
To Hensley,
Good to see you writing again, You had a little time away, as we all do. You've got a lot to offer all of us here, share it when you can OK mate?
Couple of you talkiing about what others consider pain. I have to say whatever pain I am currently in is always the worst. Toothache is one I would probably die rather than experience again. I remember trying to throw myself out of a car once as I was hours from help with a tooth ache. So severe.
But yeah, there was a movie I saw once where this girl could transmit her feelings and thoughts by just touching someone. What a weapon that would be! Forget teaching them anything!! They wouldn't know what hit them would they??
When you become very ill with a mental illness, you find out real fast who your "real" friends are. I have 3 of 14 left after they found out I was hospitalized.
The three I have left didn't care about my illness, they just wanted me to get better.
The rest can kiss my ***.
The three I have left didn't care about my illness, they just wanted me to get better.
The rest can kiss my ***.
Its good to see the response here, perhaps someday the government will realize mental illness is a major problem and people really do need help. Right now have you ever noticed how guick someone, even people who say they are your friends, will turn away from you if they find out you suffer a mental depression? Ya great uh!
Yes that is true. For people that don't understand it, they view it as a sign of weakness.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Setting aside my illness I am a VERY strong person and always have been.
Depression and mental illness does not = personality or charictar. In my case I am a very out going person and always have been. I just happen to have a mental illness that like any disease is a struggle for me to deal with.
It's almost as if policy makers want to sweep the problem under the rug and pretend it isn't there.
For example if I broke both my legs and had to be out of work to heal, my employer would have no problem with that. On the other hand when I relaps and my depression goes south, I can not ask for time off. It would not be understood.
Never mind the fact that I would trade my severe depression for two broken legs any day of the week. I will go even further and say that if God would trade me my right foot in promise to banish my depression forever... I would take that deal.
Broken legs.....Ha Ha! I laugh at such a minor pain. It is nothing compared to the pain of Severe depression.
You see the problem with mental illness is this... It's not possible for a non-sufferer to understand the illness and how really cronic and painful it is. They simply can not do it because they have not the ability to understand what it feels like.
If I could take a non-sufferer and instantly put my brain in him, then you would see that non-sufferer immidiatly fall to the ground with pain and start begging for his Mommy.
That's the pain I live with every day, but because I am such a strong person I push on the best way I can.
I think depression sufferers are actually stronger people than non-sufferers. Statistics also show that depression sufferers have on average a much higher IQ's than that of non-sufferers. Think about it.... Have you ever talked to a stupid person with severe depression? I never have.
Nothing could be further from the truth. Setting aside my illness I am a VERY strong person and always have been.
Depression and mental illness does not = personality or charictar. In my case I am a very out going person and always have been. I just happen to have a mental illness that like any disease is a struggle for me to deal with.
It's almost as if policy makers want to sweep the problem under the rug and pretend it isn't there.
For example if I broke both my legs and had to be out of work to heal, my employer would have no problem with that. On the other hand when I relaps and my depression goes south, I can not ask for time off. It would not be understood.
Never mind the fact that I would trade my severe depression for two broken legs any day of the week. I will go even further and say that if God would trade me my right foot in promise to banish my depression forever... I would take that deal.
Broken legs.....Ha Ha! I laugh at such a minor pain. It is nothing compared to the pain of Severe depression.
You see the problem with mental illness is this... It's not possible for a non-sufferer to understand the illness and how really cronic and painful it is. They simply can not do it because they have not the ability to understand what it feels like.
If I could take a non-sufferer and instantly put my brain in him, then you would see that non-sufferer immidiatly fall to the ground with pain and start begging for his Mommy.
That's the pain I live with every day, but because I am such a strong person I push on the best way I can.
I think depression sufferers are actually stronger people than non-sufferers. Statistics also show that depression sufferers have on average a much higher IQ's than that of non-sufferers. Think about it.... Have you ever talked to a stupid person with severe depression? I never have.
Amen, preach on! Why, Why, Why do you hardly ever hear about depression and anxiety being the number one disability. It's insane that this issue does not get more attention. When I get to a functional level I will be a major advocate for this. I'm finally to a point where I can say yes I have a mental illness and it is not my fault. I did not choose it. I'm not a weak person. There really is something wrong with how my brain works and I am coping the best I can. It is so hard for others to understand how really sick someone is when by appearance they do not look like it. It is very frustrating.
Yea, todays care ***** for sure. I get so pissed off that when talk of health coverage is mentioned by politicians and they never mention Mental health care.
Why is Mental health care always pushed to the side? I have no clue. Did you know that Depression and anxiety dissorder cause more people in the United States to file and go on dissability than any other health issue? It's true.
Given that fact, you would think that mental health would be given priority by our leaders. Unfortunatly it takes a back seat and people only get more sick and suicide and dissability rates continue to climb at an alarming rate.
Mental illness is still viewed by others as a choice rather than a real illness. I guess it's easy to view it that way unless your the one that is struck down with it.
Why is Mental health care always pushed to the side? I have no clue. Did you know that Depression and anxiety dissorder cause more people in the United States to file and go on dissability than any other health issue? It's true.
Given that fact, you would think that mental health would be given priority by our leaders. Unfortunatly it takes a back seat and people only get more sick and suicide and dissability rates continue to climb at an alarming rate.
Mental illness is still viewed by others as a choice rather than a real illness. I guess it's easy to view it that way unless your the one that is struck down with it.
Thanks for the message.With the way things have gotten in this country it is the system is already in place to change and even with a hea[th system set up suppose to take care of all its still not going to do so. It is the rich who will get the help. Yes I have been political and by being so I really seen how things work. Trying to get people to listen who are so use to things going good, well you know as it seems you have thaught it out. But I feel you are right about just having some one to talk to, someone you can trust. I have been through psychothearpy, over 3 months worth and know how drilling it could be with someone saying that they were my friend and trying to get me to change my whole life style because of a bad leg. It actually is what set me into a deep depression. It was an injury at work so state labor and industries sent me to the psychologist and when I asked him who he was working for me or the state his answer was the state. If I had'nt found someone on my own,who has been like a big brother more than a doctor who .knows where I'd be. Your right again about the medication not solving the proplems but it . does help yet I am not one to deppend on anyone or anything as trust only goes so far. You speek as if you are into the field of mental health, or been there. there is alot of people on here, some who if don't get help soon are headed for real hardship so I hope they listen to those on Med Help such as your self. take care
Hi,
Yeah it ***** big time that health should cost so much in some countries. Other countries it costs nothing, not a cent.
So the obvious answer is long term being a change in how governments provide for you and yours. Yes you can say that's too hard but that's how it got how it is isn't it? If a health system doesn't help all it's not a health system, it's a club for the well off. Do something about it now while you can. Get political.
Can people recover without money? Of course they can but they don't get the support they really need and deserve so that ***** too.
The thing people need to know about depression is that meds do not cure depression. Meds are like headache tablets. They stop or slow down the symptoms for a while which gives us time to think rationally and make decisions that will improve our lives.
Simple things like changing where you work if your job hurts you, changing your living arrangements if that causes problems and so on. On meds we can do that more readily than not on meds but it has to be done either way as meds won't fix an abusive partner will they?
The single biggest solution is therapy, talk therapy and you can do this with anyone if you are prepared to be honest and open and show all. As well as trust that someone to keep it to themselves.
Therapists don't do anything magical or have unknown knowldege. It's all in books and most of it is common sense stuff. The difficulty is us. We hate admitting we have a problem, that we hurt, that someone hurt us. Those hurdles can be jumped anywhere, anytime if people are avle to examine their lives critically and without bias.
So research, reading and asking questions of sufferers in places like this will certainly help. No one can guarantee a cure or recovery, in any circumstances.
Yeah it ***** big time that health should cost so much in some countries. Other countries it costs nothing, not a cent.
So the obvious answer is long term being a change in how governments provide for you and yours. Yes you can say that's too hard but that's how it got how it is isn't it? If a health system doesn't help all it's not a health system, it's a club for the well off. Do something about it now while you can. Get political.
Can people recover without money? Of course they can but they don't get the support they really need and deserve so that ***** too.
The thing people need to know about depression is that meds do not cure depression. Meds are like headache tablets. They stop or slow down the symptoms for a while which gives us time to think rationally and make decisions that will improve our lives.
Simple things like changing where you work if your job hurts you, changing your living arrangements if that causes problems and so on. On meds we can do that more readily than not on meds but it has to be done either way as meds won't fix an abusive partner will they?
The single biggest solution is therapy, talk therapy and you can do this with anyone if you are prepared to be honest and open and show all. As well as trust that someone to keep it to themselves.
Therapists don't do anything magical or have unknown knowldege. It's all in books and most of it is common sense stuff. The difficulty is us. We hate admitting we have a problem, that we hurt, that someone hurt us. Those hurdles can be jumped anywhere, anytime if people are avle to examine their lives critically and without bias.
So research, reading and asking questions of sufferers in places like this will certainly help. No one can guarantee a cure or recovery, in any circumstances.
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