i am not sure about what the dots are, but i do suggest you be very careful with the cortaid. hydrocortisone can cause eye damage if it gets in the eye because it is a steroid. though i doubt it would happen, getting hydrocortisone in your eyes may cause blindness. so, please tell him to be careful!
I have the same red bumps around my eyes...it all started in November and it NEVER completely goes away!! Many days are worse then others. I've been to an eye doctor and he said I have bad allergies - no prescription. MY dermatologist told me it may be my make-up and prescribed me a Hydrocortisone cream that I nearly put on three times a day when its bad....then my eyes swelled up so bad one morning I was rushed to a emergency care station and they said the same thing..."ALLERGIES" and now I have eye drops that don't work! I was also taking Claritin for a while and nooooooooothing!!
I've changed my make-up, tried three different prescriptions, and found useless information from Doctors! I have now...seven month later...accepted my cluster of red bumps around my eyes!!
i have been going to the dodtor for two years with this now but he keeps on tellin me i do not have scabis and gives me creams and lotions but t never seems to go away. i get red rash arund the eyes . he told me t will go away do not worry but it comes back every month . i have blisters on my chest he did nothing i have itchy neck he says its also nothing my neck has spots on but look lke blisters . i have fungus on my head around the sides manily and also on top he gives me shampoo but it never goes away i also have ezema on my leg i have cream for it but been useing for two years now ? i also get spots on my penis . ? how do i get my doctor to change his miind i also been to other doctors and they tell me its not scabis but i know it is .
My boyfriend has the same exact thing. we went to the doctor and they perscribed valtrex as well. It still comes back he has had it now for 2 years and sometimes worse then others.We have tried everything. One doctor told him to use eye wipes that take away an oil residue. i found the wipes in the eyecare section in a pharmacy. i hope this will help it atleast alittle bit.
I've had the exact same thing for almost 4 years now. I tend to get the bumps after crying or if my eyes tear up enough to water the skin around my eyes. I've been trying to see a Dermatologist buy they refuse to see me because it's around my eyes. I went to EVERY type of eye doctor and they know that it's not herpes, but they don't know what it is. It got soo bad I started using my Son's cream for eczema (fluticasone prop 0.05% cream) and as long as I use it once every day it keeps it away. If I skip a couple of days it comes back. I'm waiting to financially be able to go to a Dermatologist (of course lying to him stating it's on my cheeks) and just saying "look, this WORKS. But it's not strong enough to stop whatever this is".
My 2 year old son developed similar small red bumps around one eye. I asked a pharmacist who advised to put antiseptic cream around the eye but I was worried about it getting in his actual eye so he said to try 'golden eye' which is usually for use in the eye itself. After a few days the bumps lessened and then disappeared however when I stopped using the "golden eye" it came back and is now affecting both eyes. As it had been over a month I asked the Dr who said he wasn't sure what it was but to try aqueous cream. I haven't tried this yet as i didn't think it'd be a good idea to get this in the eye itself. Recently he has been rubbing his eyes and saying "sore" . I was considering taking him to an optician to make sure that it is not causing any problems to the eye itself.
I have the same bumps and heavy lines that accompany them. They seem to happen (and this is embarrassing) as a result from crying. Always happens and lasts for days. I did go to the dermatologist and he said to immediately STOP USING CORTISONE CREAMS OR OINTMENTS. Although they give immediate relief, the symptoms come right back once you stop using it. Which is exactly what happens. In sense, the cortisone, feeds the fungus, which is what he believes it is. I'm supposed to go back when it flares up again so he can actually see the bumps. But for now, that's all the info I can give. Hope that helps some what.
The above all conditions represent variants of ABCD.Air Borne Contact Dermatitis.Pollen,parthenium sensitiztion-rubbing eyes while crying might instill the allergen at site to cause burning,itching etc.Treat with oral antihstamine.
I have had those red bumps for probably 6-9 months now too. I went to the Derm and he RX'd an antibiotic and OTC Hydrocortizone ointment. It seems to work as long as I use the ointment. If I stop it comes back. Sometimes it itches real bad or gets sore. I have noticed that the eye that first had this issue waters a real lot. I am going to reschdule a visit to MD since it hasn't gone away.
I recently got the red bumps around my eyes (in October). My eyes were swollen shut and the bridge of my nose between my eyes was swollen so badly that I looked like a monster (could not wear my eye glasses because my face was too swollen). I was sent to a Endocrinologist and a Rheumotologist. They ran a battery of tests, perscribed a regimne of steroids and powerful antibotics. The swelling and bumps cleared up and all was well until two days ago (its back). I was referred to an Opthamologist Surgeon for a bioposy of one of the bumps. Hopefully this will reveal the problem.
I have had this same problem since September! A few red pimple like bumps appeared on my left eyelid, I let them go for a few weeks thinking they'd go away (don't itch or hurt or anything) then thinking they were acne, I put some cream on them, that's when it all went south! They started to spread and like everyone else, I went to the dermetologist, they said allergy and sent me to the allergenist. She gave me a hydrocortizone cream for them, which helps when I put it on them, but comes back like 2 days after I stop using it. This has been ongoing for months now!! It does kind of spread to the bridge of my nose, but not so bad yet. That seems to come and go on it's own. Please let me know what happens to any of you and if you find a cause/cure! I will be going back to the allergenist next week. She has run all sorts of allergy tests, including checmical tests, but nothing much has come up...so I am starting to believe it's not even an allergy. Please help and if I find anything out I will let everyone know!
I woke up two days ago and my eye was really sore, the later that day it looked like a few tiny little bumps of course I made an appointment with my doctor and she said I had an infection in and I guess around my eye. She prescribed me eye drops to use 3 to 4 x a day so I still am not sure what this is but if someone can give me some insight I would really appreciate it.
I just signed up to this website to post this one story. I wanted to share my personal experience over the last few months in case it helps anyone in the future, because I had a heck of a time getting to the bottom of what was causing the red bumps around my eyes.
This thread was one of the posts/websites that I found while trying to figure out what was causing the bumps around my eyes. I decided to post my story here because this thread shows up very high on google when you search for "red bumps around eyes".
In my case, which may or may not be related to other people's cases, it took me about 3 months to figure out what the source of the bumps was. What I learned along the way was very interested, so I wanted to share it here. I want to say right up front that I really feel for anyone going through this. It's horrible. I only dealt with it for 3 or so months myself, but that was plenty. It was absolutely awful and depressing. Nobody knows what it's like or can appreciate how horrible this is until going through it themselves. The feeling of dread waking up each morning and looking in the mirror is something nobody should ever have to deal with. I can't even imagine what it's like for the people who have mentioned that they have been dealing with this for years on end. I'm sharing my story in case it helps someone in the future. What I went through and discovered may or may not be related to other people, but here goes...
I'm 44 years old and in excellent health. I've never had any major skin problems over the years. I'm also not a huge fan of doctors, so normally I try to fix things on my own. My basic feeling is that if you give your body enough time, then 99% of the time, it will heal itself. So, anyway, about 3 months ago, out of the clear blue sky, the skin around my eyes erupted into a mass of little red bumps. The symptoms were just like many people on this (and other) websites describe. The bumps are small and red and they are a little bit swollen, but don't hurt. They have a very slight white spot in the middle, like a pimple, but they aren't really a pimple like the big kind some people get when they are teenagers. If you scratch them or use a blackhead remover, then they break open a little bit. The skin around the eyes is very delicate, so they become inflamed a bit when you do this, but then heal over the next day or so(especially if you are putting a hydrocortisone on them). There also tends to be some drying of the skin along with them healing, and this can leave little white flakes of dry skin that you have to pull off with tweezers. However, as one group of the bumps heals, a fresh set tend to appear over night or the next day. The bumps seem to appear in the corners of eyes, especially if your eyes are watering or (like me) if you have folds in this area due to age.
So, in my case, the bumps suddenly appeared one day just before I was about to leave on vacation (to visit my girlfriend). At first, I didn't think anything of it. The night before I had made chocolate chip cookies and also deep fried some french fries. I thought maybe the oil was dirty or something and that my skin was having some sort of allergic reaction to what was in the oil. Either that or maybe the high amount of sugar in the cookies or something. I really didn't know. All I knew is that it looked horrible. I braced my girlfriend for seeing me at the airport with red bumps all around my eyes. I had to leave in a week, so I frantically started searching for answers.
When the bumps didn't go away over the next few days (in fact, they got worse), I really started to become alarmed. I started to do a little research on-line. I visited a few websites and did some google searches. I finally decided that what I might have is Candida. This is a yeast infection where your body's natural balance gets out of whack - usually due to a higher sugar diet. This made perfect sense, because I was eating a very high sugar diet (cokes, candy, sweets, etc). I also noticed that on the same day my eyes broke out, my foreskin area did as well. Since this is a common area where yeast infections tend to crop up, that only served to reinforce my assumption that the problem around my eyes was in fact due to yeast (fungi) also. On the foreskin area, I put an anti fungal liquid treatment from Lotrimin. It's in a little eye dropper and called "Lotrimin AF antifungal". It's clotrimazole liquid.. That cleared up the issue around my foreskin right away. So, since that worked so well, I also started using it on my eyes.
Over the next 3 months, I tried everything you can think of. I tried the anti-dandruff shampoo called Nizoral. It's over the counter. I put some around my eyes and burned the heck out of the skin. One time, it combined with the soap I used to wash my face (or the anti fungal stuff) and left me with a horrible red chemical burn on the skin around my eyes that lasted for several days. That was fantastic. When I arrived to see my girlfriend, I looked like walking death.
The interesting thing about the skin around your eyes is that - while it's very delicate - it also seems to heal extremely fast. I recall a number of times where I would have horrible red bumps around that area, only to have them nearly completely heal over night (albeit only to be replaced by fresh red bumps the next day in different areas). I wish all the skin on my body healed that fast!
So, over the course of the next 3 months, I continued to have all these red bumps appearing. I would scratch them and they would heal, but others would show up. I tried everything you can think of. I tried using Lotrimin af clotrimazole cream (as well as the liquid version they sell - as mentioned above). I tried Lotrimin ultra (butenafine hydrochloride cream 1% also). These two chemicals address slightly different forms of fungus. One is more closely related to Candida, which is what I had. However, while it seemed to help cure the bumps a little bit, new bumps kept showing up each day. The other problem was that using these types of creams/liquids around my eyes caused my eyes to water all day/night. This seemed to produce a vicious circle; the more my eyes watered, the more it seemed to cause red bumps. I also was concerned about using these types of chemicals near my eyes, since they tended to work their way into my eyes and cause them to water.
I also had some left over 2.5% hydrocortisone cream from a prescription many years ago. This helped to heal the skin faster, but it also caused my eyes to water when the cream got into the corners of my eyes also.
I also radically changed my diet. I cut sugar out (on the grounds that I could start the Candida from its diet of sugar). As mentioned, I was drinking several cokes per day (this works out to nearly 100 lbs of sugar a year in your diet btw), plus I was eating ice cream and sweets. I would estimate that I was consuming probably on the order of 100 to 150 grams of sugar per day (on a good day :-) I changed my diet and eliminated cokes and candy. I would say probably down to less than 10 or 15 grams of sugar per day. I became an anti-sugar fanatic.
I also started taking probiotics, multi-vitamins as well as amino acids. Amino acids help with protein production, which allows your body to repair its skin faster. Probiotics are supposed to help to restore proper bacteria levels in your intestines (incidentally, I noticed after taking the probiotics, the constant pressure in my stomach and intestines mysterious went away - although this might be due to stopping my consumption of coca-cola also).
I was trying everything I could think of, but the bumps still kept coming. In fact, my skin broke out a few times around the back of my head also. It was just terrible. I was embarrassed to leave the house. The red bumps around my eyes would not let up. So this went on for about 3 months - during which time I was really becoming alarmed. I thought something had gotten a foothold inside my body or something. I could not figure out what was going on, but these bumps could not be kept at bay. Even in the cases where I did put stuff on my skin, it would heal them up okay, then a few days later, fresh bumps would appear. As mentioned, I have little faith in your average doctor, so I decided I would have to get to the bottom of this on my own, no matter how long it took.
So after 3 months or so, I was really started to become worried. In reading on this and other forums, I saw where people had been struggling with this for years on end. My heart goes out to them. So, while my specific situation might not be the same as others, here's what I did...
After about 3 months with no luck, I decided that treating the bumps by putting on creams and stuff wasn't working. It was more like I was treating the symptoms and not the cause. So I stopped and started to think that this must be related to something I'm putting into my body. My girlfriend suggested that I keep a log of everything I ate. I didn't go quite that far, but I did start to keep a mental note of when the bumps appeared and what I had just eaten. I also sat down and started thinking long and hard about when this all started and what I had changed. Also, what I put into my body on a daily basis.
Around this same time, I also started researching allergies, since sometimes my skin would break out suddenly for no real reason (and typically a few hours after a meal). In reading about what people tend to be allergic to on the Internet, I discovered that eggs and milk are at the top of the list. Now, in my case, I haven't been a fan of drinking milk for 20 years. However, I just recently had started consuming large amounts of milk as part of starting to drink coffee (specifically lattes and mochas). I won't go into my sudden love and exploration of making the perfect espresso, but the important takeaway here is that after 44 years of never drinking a single cup of coffee and barely drinking any milk, I suddenly developed a love of lattes. So, I started having one every morning. This involved microwaving and hand frothing half-and-half to add into the coffee/espresso I was making. I started with one cup a day and was soon up to two.
In thinking back, I realized that when I started drinking coffee, this was very close to around when the first problem with these red bumps occurred. I started to wonder if maybe there was some link and/or maybe I was allergic to the milk or the coffee. Around this same time, I also ran across an interesting article about how you can be allergic to your tooth paste (especially if it has stuff for tarter control and whitening, etc.) I was using Tom's of Maine toothpaste. I don't think this was the issue, but I'm not 100% sure (because I stopped several things at all once).
So this is what I did:
I stayed with my low sugar diet.
I stopped using toothpaste and switched brushing with baking soda each morning
I stopped drinking coffee with frothed milk.
Sure enough, within 2 days, the red bumps started to heal and go away. I couldn't believe it. I still was putting the hydrocortisone 2.5% cream on and also a little bit of the clotrimazole liquid stuff from Lotrimin. Over the next 3 or 4 days, I watched at the red bumps stopped and healed. I stopped putting anything on my skin and they continued to heal. It's been about 5 or 6 days now and the skin around my eyes is almost totally back to normal. Each day, the damaged caused by the red bumps heals more and more. I'm about 99% healed as of this posting (5 days).
My assumption here is that something I was putting into my body was causing this. In my case, all the stuff put onto my skin was only treating the symptoms, not the root cause. Now, I can't tell you if it was due to coffee or milk or toothpaste. All I can tell you is that as soon as I stopped using those things, the problem instantly stopped.
The other interesting thing to note here is that the red bumps I have always had on my thighs (ever since I was a 13 or 14) seem to have also magically cleared up. I don't know if maybe that's related to stopping the toothpaste or what, but I can tell you one thing for sure, I'm never going back to using anything other than baking soda to brush my teeth (you just have to be careful, since it's a little more abrasive and can rub your gums raw if you brush too hard).
At some point in the future, I might try introducing coffee and/or milk back into my diet just to see if the red bumps suddenly come back. However, right now I'm just so thankful to have my life back and to have my skin healed that I don't want to rock the boat. The one thing I can say without question is that this was related to either using toothpaste, milk or coffee (or all three). I don't think it was related to sugar, because I did have some M&M's the other night and had no problems reoccur. However, I still keep my sugar intake much, much lower than before.
Again, I have no idea if what my problem was relates to anyone else here. I'm sure you can have fungal and/or bacterial problems that cause the same issues. Or even herpes could probably do it. All I know is that my problem related to either coffee/milk and/or toothpaste, because the day I stopped using those, the skin around my eyes magically healed and went back to being totally clear in a matter of 3 to 4 days.
If this post helps a single person, it will be worth the time I spent writing it.
A couple of days after posting the above two posts, I had some ice cream and noticed that the bumps came back. Not nearly as bad as before, but definitely back. It's been a couple more days and they are starting to go away.
I'm still not drinking any coffee and have been attempting to avoid anything with milk in it.
I wanted to add that one thing I noticed which seems to help is lemon juice. I have started doing a shot of fresh lemon juice each morning. I know it sounds horrible, but it's actually pretty good. My girlfriend turned me on to it. You just take a lemon and squeeze the juices into a shot glass. We put a little sea salt around the rim. It's pretty good. I really enjoy it and it's a nice way ot start off the morning.
I also googled the health benefits of lemon juice and they mentioned it helps with your skin and acne. I'm not 100% sure if there is a correlation, but it does seem like my skin heals up when I do a shot of lemon juice each day.
I'll continue to follow up on this thread - good, bad or otherwise.
Still having problems with the red bumps around my eyes. For a while they cleared up (for about a week), but then started coming back. I decided to try using some Mupirocin, on the idea that it may be bacterial in nature.
I found tube of Bactroban that my ex-girlfriend left behind (which had never been opened - must have been a spare tube or something). The doctor had prescribed it to her when she got a rash on her skin and it worked really great.
Anyway, I gave it a shot. I used it for about a week steady (twice a day) and combined that with taking some oil of oregano pills (which are supposed to be good for digestion, etc). I also used a few drops of tea tree oil under my tongue. At first, it seemed to start to clear up a bit. Most of the improvement occurred over night (while sleeping), but just today I noticed some bumps showing up again. Whatever this is, it's pretty stubborn.
I'm considering going to the doctor and asking them to give me some antibiotics that will kill any bacteria in my body, as well as something that will kill all yeast. However, based on reading some of the information from other people, I'm not holding out a lot of hope on that.
I've also ordered a couple of other things to try. One is some stuff called "magicream" that I read about on another skin forum. I found it on ebay and just bought some to try. I also ordered some 20% Azelaic Acid Cream. Might as well give that a try.
So we'll see. I'll keep everyone posted. I'm about ready to rip my eyes out... so wish me luck! I'll report back how things work and what other steps I take.
First, the Mupirocin was a bust. It seemed like it wanted to work, but never really fully got rid of the bumps. It was more like it kept them at bay, but they seemed to remain under the skin. It's hard to explain exactly, but it was sort of like the Mupirocin kept new bumps from developing as rapidly, but couldn't really clear up the ones that seemed to be deep in the skin near the folds of my eyes (at the corners). I used it 3 times a day for about 10 days. After about 7 days, a new batch of bumps showed up, so I discontinued its use. It's supposed to be very powerful stuff, but it only sort of worked for the bumps around my eyes and then they came back.
I had to give up the tea tree oil stuff. It was pretty nasty and I read some articles on line that it can be dangerous to ingest. I also tested it on some mold (or something) that was growing on the lid to my hot tub. It didn't even touch it. However, bleach and white vinegar did kill the hot tub mold within only a few hours. I was sort of surprised the tea tree oil didn't bother the mold (or whatever it was) growing on the hot tub lid. BTW, I tried some bleach/white vinegar on my eyes, but it didn't seem to make much difference :-D
I have continued to use the Oil of Oregano however. It seems like when I take those pills, my skin overall has a better appearance and is more clear and healthy looking (contrary to how it sounds on this thread, I actually have really clear/nice skin :-). I also noticed that it seems to cut down on the red bumps I get on my thighs once in a while. The bumps on my thighs are something I have had ever since I was a kid (on and off). They are different than the bumps on my eyes however. The little bumps on my thighs are more like pimples and come and go. Anyway, it seems like when I take the Oil of Oregano, my skin is much better looking as a whole and those go away. I also have started taking a multivitamin again and cut way back on sugar in my diet - just in an effort to be more healthy over all. I also have taken folic acid and some amino acid, as well as zinc and magnesium. All those things seem to help. It definitely speeds up how fast your body heals.
Anyway, back to the red bumps from hell around my eyes...
The 20% Azelaic Acid arrived a couple of days back. I found it on ebay from Thailand and bought 5 little generic tubes of it. I'm not sure if it's prescription or what, but after reading about it on wiki, it sounded like it had potential, since they said it goes down into the pores/hair follicles of your skin to kill bacteria.
I put the Azelaic Acid (it's a cream) around the skin on my eyes and you could feel it working. At first, it burns a little bit. The interesting thing is that - any place you have red bumps - it's almost like you can feel it going down into the skin after them. It's the only thing I have tried (and it's been about 6 months now) that feels like it actually targets the bumps (this may be due to the acid nature of it however). Anyway, after only using it for a couple of days, the bumps are totally gone. I woke up this morning and the skin around my eyes was the clearest it's been in months. And this is only after about 2 days (or maybe 2.5 days) of trying the 20% Azelaic Acid cream... so that's pretty impressive. I'll see if it lasts. I'm going to continue the cream for a few more days.
One thing about the cream is that it does irritate the skin around your eyes. After a couple of days of using it 3 or 4 times a day, I noticed the skin was starting to look red (like a rash). However, that does go away over night. Also, be careful about getting that stuff in your eyes, as it burns like a mother effer.
Anyway, so I'm happy to report that the Azelaic Acid worked amazingly well. I'll see if the red bumps return or not. I'm going to continue the Azelaic Acid for a few days and see how things go.
As far as the magicream, it hasn't arrived yet. I except it any day however. When it shows up, I may use it as sort of a preventative measure and/or just to improve the skin. From what I have read about it, it sort of sounds more like a skin cream than anything else.
Anyway, that's the latest. The Azelaic Acid has been the most effective by far at this point. I'll keep "an eye on things" (pun intended :-) and report back over the next couple of weeks.
Hi about 1 mth ago I started getting little blisters around my eyes (herpes - shingles), I am right into alternative medicines try this: your body is lacking in Vitamin B, C, D, and sulfur. Eat more Spinach, apricots and alfalfa. Mix powdered pharum phos (a cell salt) with witch hazel and apply externally. The call salt may also be taken internally 1/2 teaspoon with water 3 times a day. Add Kelp to your diet to help elimiminate herpes take it daily one teaspoon, or eat seaweed soap. Good Luck and I hope this works for you Kelly :-) ***@****
I had no idea what mine was either! i had it for months, tried tea tree oil, nizoral shampoo, natural dandruff shampoo gently on the eyes as well as coconut oil, tamanu oil. What worked for me was from reading one of the many forums on this weird ailment: magicream. Its an all natural baby cream from england i think or aussie. I dont know but right before i broke down and went to the dreaded derm whom only seems to make things work (i distrust almost all of them), this worked..in a DAY. its been a week and its almost entirely gone. Wow. Try this guys for all of you who are suffering and confused.
Thank you for your very detailed account of your symptoms and the remedies you've had so far. You don't know how you've help me and probably others too.
I have the same problem. Several little pimples appeared under my left eye after a stressful night. As I have cortisoid, I applied some on them. They dried up in a day or two. But came back after another sleepless night in abundance now in both eyes. They are sore when touched. A dermatologist advised to just wash them with Johnson baby shampoo and they will go away on its own. I still have have them. And are now making my eyes itchy and watery. I now have them on my eyelids too.
I just moved to San Antonio Tx from Toronto, Canada. I never had this before. So I believe I got this form of allergy, here in Texas.
I look forward to your next post. Also please read Alohachic comment. I'll give it a try and let your know.
It's been a little over a month since my last post above. In that time I have had some good luck and some bad luck, but have learned quite a bit.
First, I have narrowed down the root cause of the red bumps around my eyes. It's clearly related to a reaction to food (in my case, it seems to be mainly anything having to do with milk). It also seems to relate to sugar and/or coffee. I haven't narrowed it down specifically to one of those, but I can tell you definitively that if I have something such as ice cream, cream pie, coffee (with milk in it) or a large amount of sugar (such as cookies, etc.), then the result will be red bumps in the next 24 to 48 hours.
Let me relate some general information and then I'll provide some more details.
I did have some good luck with the magic cream stuff. I started using it around my eyes and it really improve the skin and seemed to keep the red bumps at bay. Interesting, I noticed that the bumps stopped affecting the skin where I was using it (in close to my eyes) and later moved out farther on my face (up to my eye brows and down a bit further on my cheeks - at least as far as subsequent out breaks go, of which I have had a couple). The magic cream ( http://www.magicream123.com ) is good stuff, even though I don't know exactly what's in it. You can use it very close to your eyes and it doesn't get into them, nor bother them. It improved the appearance of my skin and made me look 5 years younger around my eyes. Good stuff for sure and not super expensive.
However, applying cream or addressing this issue from the outside isn't the solution. I've gone weeks without an out break (and having my skin look fantastic) to having a huge re-occurrence due to re-introducing something like coffee (e.g. Caffe Lattes) back into my diet. Or, just having something with too much milk in it can now set it off. This is very frustrating, because I used to have no problem at all eating as much ice cream as I wanted.
A few weeks ago I started reading a book called "Clean". It was laying around my girlfriend's house and when I went to visit her, I started to read it. Here is the link on amazon:
The book is amazing. It's written by a doctor (and I'm no fan of most doctors) and he gives an absolutely fantastic account of how your body works and how modern day diets impact the toxicity. In reading the book, I came across several examples that seem to address why my skin suddenly decided to start breaking out. The book also gives clear details on how to detox your body and how important diet is. After reading this book, it seems clear that the solution to most of these strange "bumps that will not go away" problems relate more to problems on the inside than anything else. As such, solutions that address the symptoms (the bumps) - without really addressing the cause - are probably a band-aid at best. At worst, they are a frustrating waste of time (and if they involve a doctor who is clueless, then a waste of money as well).
The book mentioned above outlines a detox program that is 3 weeks long. The basic thrust of the book is pretty simple. The author outlines how by constantly eating, your body never has a change to go into detox mode. With all the chemicals in food these days, especially animal products, etc. your body spends so much time on digestion that you never really give it a chance to rid itself of toxins. As the author points out, when you ingest food, your body has no choice but to deal with it. If you are constantly eating, without allowing enough time for your body to rid itself of the toxins, then they will slowly build up. The book details how many hours it takes for your body to start the detox process and provides diets that can help.
One thing I wanted to mention is that I have recently made radical changes in my diet. And, as long as I stick to those changes, the red bumps stop appearing and begin to heal. Basically, if I avoid junk food, sugar, candy, milk and coffee, then my skin heals. As soon as I "cheat" and have something bad, then I'll get red bumps within 24 to 48 hours.
I wanted to also attempt to explain the red bumps better, in case anyone runs into this in the future. After searching high and low on the Internet, I have come to the conclusion that the bumps are some form of a hive. I've had hives in the past (such as due to stress, etc.). Those hives are raised and red - about the size of a pea. They show up suddenly, itch a bit and then disappear within maybe 45 minutes to an hour or so. However, the red bumps around my eyes (now down on my cheeks) are different. They show up just as fast, but these are more like a pimple in appearance. However, there is nothing to pop and get rid of. Instead, there is a semi-hard bump under the surface [fairly far under the surface] which is white (maybe with a faint yellow tint). It appears, at first, if you can squeeze it and pop it, but in most cases, you cannot. In some cases, I am able to scratch my finger nail over it and get rid of it. However, in other cases, the bump is solid and appears more like part of my skin - under the surface - which has suddenly turned white and then become inflamed around it. Sometimes it hurts a bit, but other times not. After breaking the skin open, there really isn't anything to "come out". Moreover, the bump that you can feel under the skin (i.e. the skin itself) typically remains for several days to a week, until it slowly starts to heal. Ultimately, a combination of scratching, squeezing and breaking open the skin occurs and then it takes several weeks for the red area to heal. As it heals, the swelling and "hard bump" beings to disappear. I should note that this is different than how it used to be. In other words, the bumps seems to have changed. At first, I seem to recall that I could easily scratch them away, leaving just a red area that healed fairly quickly. Now, it's not that easy and it takes longer to heal - however, that could be due to the location changing from closer to the corners of my eyes (where the skin is more delicate) to out further around my cheeks and eyebrow area.
I also wanted to add that showering every day before bed does help. It doesn't stop the bumps (since they seem to be due to a reaction to food), but it does help overall.
Anyway, at this stage, it seems several things are clear: one, the bumps are from a reaction to food. Treating the bumps with creams, etc. doesn't really do much to solve the root problem. It seems the root problem relates to a build up of toxins in your system and the skin rashes are simply your body's way of trying to get your attention - i.e. "what you are doing with your health ain't working"
I also wanted to add something else, which is sort of interesting. Around the time all this started, I noticed that the toe nail on my left food suddenly turned a horrible yellowish color. Not really as bad as what you'd see when someone has actual toe nail fungus, but just shy of that. I was shocked when this happened, since I've always had beautiful finger and toe nails. Looking back, this was a clear indication that something had gone off track in a major way with regard to my diet (and I can tell you what it was: I was eating sugar and candy like it was going out of style :-) In any event, after this happened, I started cutting out sugar (I totally gave up cokes and candy) and over the course of 3 or 4 months, I watched as my toe nail started to grow out more normal looking. The interesting thing is that the other day, I noticed that there was a definite line across the middle of my toe nail (this time, all of them, but most visible on my two biggest toes).
On the forward part, my toe nail was slightly darker and thicker. On the new growth part (now representing about 60% of the nail), it's growing in a beautiful pink color (very healthy looking) and thinner than before. The yellow part has grown out 99% and so now there is just about 60% which is beautiful, pink and thin and then about 40% which is slightly darker and slightly thicker. If you didn't see the difference with such a clearly visible line, then you wouldn't even notice the change.
As far as I can recall, the line correlates to when I really cut out all the sugar, coffee and junk food. It also was when I cut down on eating a lot of red meat and started eating more and more salads and vegetables. Basically, it equates to when I started eating far better. So that was an interesting development.
As far as the red bumps, I've been able to go 2 or 3 weeks with no bumps. However, if I am not careful and/or cheat and have something with sugar in it, then I will notice a few bumps show up. The good news is that they don't seem as bad now and seem to heal slightly quicker. I believe this is because I've made some adjustments outlined in the "Clean" book. I've started giving my body more time to detox itself and have stopped the constantly supply of food throughout the day. Also, getting plenty of sleep makes a big difference. In fact, lately, I'm starting to get a much more healthy "glow" to my skin. The book also points out that many people are deficient in vitamin D and therefore getting adequate sun is helpful. And, in fact, I did notice once when I sat out in the sun for a bit, this helped quite a bit with my skin.
Anyway, so that's the latest. After reading the Clean book, my feeling is that I need to complete their 3 week detox program. I believe the bulk of the reaction I'm having to foods (e.g. milk, sugar, etc.) is due to not giving my body enough chance to clean out the toxins from life, diet, etc. I think once I do that, I may be able to re-introduce some foods that I like (e.g. coffee, cookies) in very small levels again. I'm giving myself about 6 months before attempting that however.
Another thing the book points out is that humans are the only mammals on earth which drink milk after they are weened from it by their mothers. I never really stopped and thought about that, but it's true. There are no other creatures on earth which go around stealing breast milk and drinking it. Only humans - due to some half baked "milk does a body good" marking campaign on TV do that. I've never been a big fan of milk (and have rarely consumed it over the last 20 or so years). However, now, after reading this book and stopping to think about it, it really is an odd practice. Moreover, given the antibiotic used in cows, you have to question if you really want to be drinking milk. The book also points out that the enzymes needed to help digest many foods (such as milks) are destroyed before the food ever reaches consumers. So that's something else to take into account, since it puts additional stress on your digestive system.
The bottom line here - at least for me - is that the solution to this problem more than likely stems back to some problem with your digestive system. The bumps themselves are the symptom and just attempting to treat those with a topical cream is probably not going to yield much in the way of results (I'm talking about my specific situation here; it's quite possible other people with red bumps would benefit from external creams, etc.). For me, however, the problem seems to stem from some internal reaction to food that my body has deemed an irritant.
As I have mentioned previously, I'm no doctor or expert or anything like that. I'm just a guy trying to figure out why my body has suddenly decided it doesn't like cookies, coffee and candy :-) Since I have never had any issues whatsoever eating this stuff, nor have I had any problems with my skin, it tells me something must have gone wrong some place. In my particular quest for answers, I believe the issue relates to something revolving around my digestive system; the information relates in the book "Clean" seems to match up pretty well with the experiences I have been having with these red bumps on my skin. As such, I'm going to give their detox program a try. I'm also going to continue with this far more healthy diet I have been on lately (no junk food, no coffee, no sugar, no milk, no (or little) white breads). I'm also going to employ more juices (since your body doesn't have to work as hard to break those down in order to digest them). This is - combined with not eating for a period of 12 hours (while you sleep) is supposed to help kick your body into detox mode. The book says it takes 8 hours after your last meal for your body to go into detox mode and start pulling toxins back out of your system - then another 4 hours to finish the job. So I'm going to eat healthy and cut back on meals "all day/night long" so my body can function better and we'll see how the net result end up.
All I can say so far is that I have been able to stop the red bumps from coming by modifying my diet. I've also been able to cause them to show up again by adding certain foods back (this most recent time, it was 1 cookie and a tiny, tiny slice of chocolate pie). Frankly, I thought I could get away with it, but nooooo :-) Two red bumps the next day (after none for over 2 weeks) confirmed that I have narrowed down what is causing this problem. So now, the solution is to eat healthy and give my body time to "clean itself out". From there, I think there is a very good chance that I will reset things enough so that I can once again enjoy the occasional sweet item.
So that's the latest. I'll provide another update in a few months - most likely after I complete the detox program in the book. Also, most likely after all my skin has healed up from the most recent batch of red bumps (hives?).
I certainly relate to the frustration. I've been dealing with this for nearly a year now. It's a major pain in the ***, not to mention embarrassing when you have to go out in public looking like someone smashed a chain across the skin around your eyes.
For anyone struggling with this same situation, I urge you to consider changing your diet. Cut out sugars, junk food, drinking, smoking, etc. Anything and everything bad. As the book, Clean, points out: you are what you eat.. and more importantly, you "eat what you are". Since giving up sodas and candy bars, I find that I now crave salads. After 30+ years of craving candy bars and classic cokes, that's a mind boggling statement for someone like me to say, but it's true. Again, change your diet.. there's a good chance the skin problems are simply a manifestation of digestive problems.
BTW, I wanted to mention also, since changing my diet, the uncomfortable pressure I used to feel on my right side (in my abdominal area) has completely vanished. For a while I thought I might have some serious issue like stomach cancer or something ripped or torn inside me (due to body building and weight training). Now I see it was just due to my diet and most likely my intestines not getting a break and/or being inflamed or something. Since changing my diet, that has gone away. Frankly, the changes lately are amazing. Your body is a machine... you just have to figure out how to feed it correctly. When you are getting strange rashes and bumps on your skin, it's very likely a reaction that is telling you "what you are doing now, that ain't working" as far as your diet goes.
Finally, if you have cable, watch that program "you are what you eat". Fantastic show. The changes in people's skin and their overall look (when they follow the program) is amazing. I think this also gives some clue into how diet can affect your skin and appearance.
It's a yest infection. I was having the EXACT same symptoms as Ray. And it totally makes sense. Your diet, stress levels and all sorts of weird stuff is closely integrated with how well your body is able to control yeast which is naturally all over your body.
Well, I've had that same stupid patch of red bumps under my eye, which are raised, look like a few pimples, some have white heads, but won't pop, cause dry skin that flakes off... Yeah. Exact same thing.
Soooo... a little history, I actually had a candida ballanitis (a yeast infection of the wang) a couple years back, and found that Monistat 7 Day, applied once or twice a day, cleared up the yeast infection in about three to four days. Well, I tried the exact same thing, Monistat 7 Day (2% Miconazole Nitrate) on my face under my eye. BINGO!!! It's been two days and it's almost completely gone... I've been dealing with this for TWO MONTHS!! Don't know why I didn't slap some Monistat on there already... I guess I just had no idea you could get a bloody yeast infection on your face!
Anyways, instead of torturing yourself with all this detox crap - Go buy a tube of Monistat and give it a shot. It's working like a champ for me! :)
BTW When I tried clearing up my other yeast infection with Lotrimin, Tinactin and other anti-fungals, they didn't work... Monistat was the only thing that took care of it... and it really took care of it quick.
Hope this helps someone else freaked out of their skull that they've picked up herpes or warts on their face, like I was. Yeast; who'd have thought it could cause something like this?
Oh, and with the Monistat 7 Day cream, I buy the 7 Day simply because it has a bigger tube of cream and it's the same price or less as the one and three day. Just rub a small amount onto the skin... it really doesn't take much; about half the size of a pea... and let it do it's magic. I try to apply it twice a day to increase efficacy.
I'm thinking the Magicream mentioned by another poster above having similar success must have the same stuff in it. Monistat is available at just about every corner store in the nation though for about $13. Handy :)
I just still can't believe I lived with this big ole' rash looking thing under my eye for so long without trying the obvious...
Hey guys I'm 14yo and i have this yeast crap. i just noticed a red bump on my eye and its exactly the same what everyone has and i've also noticed the white dots on my "wang". yesterday i just ate about like 5 pieces of KFC chicken and chips and popcorn and coke. this is the second time i've gotten this lump on my eye. the last time a got the bump was about 7 months ago. but something weird that i noticed was when the lump went away the white head of the lump remained. So i asked my mum to do something about. She hot this metal stick with a tiny metal circle at the end of it. what she did was put the circle on the white head and pressed really hard eventually a whitish brownish lump came out. the weird thing was that she did the same thing to a proper pimple and the same whitish brownish lump came out, oh btw what the lump seemed to be was the hard thing under the pimple.An way that was my input into this annoying epidemic. i also noticed that there was a brown line across my thumb nail as well as the pimpley things on my chest and under my armpits for about a month now. What i really want to ask is I'm fourteen years old should i do something about it?
BTW it's not the milk i've been drinking milk every night for my whole life in addition to the milk every school day i'd buy a big M (chocolate milk).
Trying Monistat certainly can't hurt. However, in my case, the issue seemed to relate more to the problem re-occurring from the inside, as opposed to something (i.e. yeast) which had gotten started on the outside.
When all this happened initially, I also noticed some yeast like symptoms around the foreskin area of my penis. I used monistat (or maybe it was Lortimin) and it cleared up within a day and never came back. Like you, I tried it on the bumps around my eyes also, thinking it was connected. In my case, it responded a little, but ultimately the bumps around my eyes came back with a vengeance and proved to be much more stubborn (like 8 months stubborn). It also seemed that topical treatments didn't have much long term impact - yes, they helped, but more and more red bumps kept appearing.
The only thing which has really addressed the issue is a diet change and taking steps to allow my body to detox more between meals. My guess is that candida (i.e. yeast in the digestive track) had gotten out of balance (and had gotten a foot hold due to my high bread and sugar diet). In turn, I think this was resulting in colonization of other susceptible areas of my body (e.g. the ski around my eyes).
The magic cream seems to help, but mainly in conjunction with taking other steps (as outlined above). Incidentally, after doing the detox stuff (as outlined in the book Clean), my skin is looking much better - with no further out breaks. I've also been able to re-introduce small amounts of sugar back into my diet (such as 3 or 4 cookies after dinner).
Right now, my main approach is to have only one solid meal per day (usually mid day). I have cut out coffee/milk from my diet and also kept sugar and white breads very, very low. I also try to have a liquid meal (easier to digest) either in the morning or evening. Also, I drink a lot of high quality water (mainly Fiji water). What seems to have really helped a lot is making sure I get at least a 12 hour break between my last meal and my first meal when I get up. This had allowed me to sleep much better and get really good rest at night. Each morning my skin appears more and more healthy.
The other thing I have done is re-introduce oil of oregano back into my diet, as well as probiotics. I'm also taking some zinc/magnesium supplements & folic acid (as well as a multi vitamin). I'm also taking some milk thistle to help support healthy liver function.
Between all that, proper rest and a healthy diet, it appears the red bumps are under control. I haven't had any major problems (like before) in several weeks. One time I did over do it on the cookies and chocolate (mainly as a test) and the next day I had just one very mild bump, but it was nothing as horrible as before - and it went away quickly. Since changing my diet and making sure to give my body a break at night as far as digestion goes, I have had the best results so far.
As far as the monistat - if it's a more mild yeast situation on your skin, that's a great idea and may very well work. In my case, I tried both monistat (miconazole cream) as well as Lotrimin (Clotrimazole). Neither really worked to address the root issue. It did help clear up whatever current red bumps I had on my skin - just like magic cream or hydrocortisone tended to do, but it didn't stop fresh bumps from appearing over subsequent days.
For me, at least, success seems to hinge on addressing internal issues, not external issues.
Also, it's important to keep in mind every situation is different. The advice Thewiseone gives may be extremely important for someone suffering from an external yeast infection around the eyes, whereas other information provided here might relate more closely to what other people are experiencing.
What's your diet like? Do you consume a lot of sugar and junk food (or sodas)?
In my case, I had spent my life drinking several cokes per day, as well as candy bars and ice cream or cookies. My diet wasn't very healthy (no vegetables, etc.) I never had any problems at all. However, when I was around 44 years old, suddenly all my bad eating habits caught up with me. One day I made some chocolate chip cookies from scratch (and man, where they good!) and fried up some home made french fries. The next day, whoa - skin explosion around the eyes. I had 3 or 4 red dots all around the corners of my eyes - I couldn't believe it. Since that day - up until just recently - I have had nothing but problems.
At the exact same time, I noticed the color of my toe nails changed for the worse. One of my toe nails (on my left foot / big toe) went totally hay-wire. First it turned sort of a crazy yellowish/brown color. That took months to grow out. As outlined above, once that part grew out, the next part looked more normal, however it was slightly thicker. Since changing my diet and cutting out sugar, etc. I've watched my toe nails (all of them) go from a dark pink color (and being slightly thicker) to being a beautiful pink color and noticeably less thick (i.e. normal thickness). There is a very definite line between the darker pink and the light healthy looking pink.
Anyway, many health problems can manifest themselves with visible signs in the hair and nails, since these areas grow so rapidly. Same for the skin and whites of the eyes.
It's important to remember that your outward appearance and health is a direct reflection of your internal health. Try googling "finger nail color" or something along those lines and you can find out all sorts of interesting stuff.
There is also a "spit test" you can do. I haven't done it recently, but if you go on youtube and type in "candida spit test" or something along those lines (or try it on google), you can find some information about it. There is also information this forum about it. Some months back I tried it myself and saw a lot of stringiness dropping to the bottom of the glass. I am not sure how a "normal / healthy" spit test should react, but I have read that it should dissolve on the surface of the water basically. Maybe I'll try another one tomorrow, now that I'm making some progress with my health and seeing some positive changes.
Anyway, maybe you can relate what your eating habits are like?
My Diet is actually relatively healthy at the moment all in the morning its usually cereal with milk and then in the afternoon for lunch a chocolate milk big m. After school i can have anything from last nights dinner to half a bar of chocolate (sometimes when i'm depressed i eat like half a chocolate mud cake). at dinner i might have some rice with a healthy serving of vegetables and meat. In addition to this i have fruit throughout the day and a glass of milk at night. the first time i had the red bump was when i ate a healthy serving of KFC and the second time same thing so i'm just gonna steer clear of KFC.
the bump i had is gone now but i want to know if there is any kind of prevention. it also seems that if you put anything on your eyes it'll get worse so i'm going to try and do nothing at all.
Jimmy - pickup that book mentioned above (Clean). You might find it interesting as far as your diet goes. Also, check Youtube out and search for "The bitter truth".
I was doing okay until just the other day. I went crazy one night and had 1/2 a cup cake and some candy (specifically, "Nips", which are hard coffee flavored candies). Normally I'll have one here or there, but this night I had like 8 or 10 of them.
Over the next 24-48 hours, I had 2 red bumps show up on my cheek (just below my eye) - one was big, one slightly smaller. Very annoying. Soooooooo... I'm going to have to be very careful with what I eat over the next couple of months. It seems that it doesn't take much to push me over the edge these days. Last year, I could eat as much candy/sugar as I wanted and no problems. Now, it doesn't take much for a reaction. So I'm going to go back to eating super healthy and attempt avoid 100% of the sugar. That seems to be the only thing that keeps the red bumps from reoccurring and allows my skin to heal up.
I have been experiencing the same symptoms, mildly, starting in late 2008--almost two years now. I went to see a dermatologist in early 2009, who,prescribed an antibiotic eye ointment, despite not being able to offer a precise diagnosis of the condition. This ointment, although a greasy inconvenience, cleared up the itchy red bumbs around my eyes and on my eyelids completely. However, the ointment did not eliminate the problem. When I stopped using the ointment, the itchy red bumps reappeared. The ointment is expensive, so I started using vaseline ointment and that seems to stave off the reappearance of the red bumps to some degree, but not completely. As the red bumps around my eyes reappear, I use the antibiotic eye ointment and they disappear again.
In my case, the fact that the antibiotic ointment is clearing up the bumps lead me to believe that it is not a yeast/fungal infection, but something else. Because I watch my weight and have kept a journal of the foods I eat for over five years, I find no correlation to the foods I am eating to the appearance of these red bumps around my eyes.
On the other hand, I have noticed that the problem only occurs in my home. When I do not apply anything to my eye (e.g. the ointment or vaseline), the bumps reappear. I also noticed that after I launder my sheets, blankets and comforters, the red bumps do not appear for the first few days after the cleaning. In addition, during the day, while I am away from home, there is no reappearance of the red bumps around my eyes. As the result of all these observations and patterns, I am led to believe there is an external source to this problem. However, I cannot identify the source. I have investigated online that perhaps there could be some mite infestation of some kind, but there are no visible signs of such a problem. The only indication I have is that I find myself very itchy while I am in my home and the red bumps around my eyes appear after a night of sleep. I am also noticing the problem is worsening because when I apply the ointment or vaseline around my eyes, the bumps do not manifest, but they then tend to appear on my cheek or nose.
This is so frustrating, but I am determined to get to the root of this issue. Does anyone else think I may be on the right track?
No new bumps over the last couple of weeks (and the skin around my eyes continues to heal up nicely).
Interestingly, a few weeks ago, I noticed a sudden drop off in problems. This directly coincided with my decision (partly due to frustration) to go off my nearly zero sugar diet. For the last few months, I have been holding the line as far as nearly 0 grams of sugar in my diet. Also, as outlined above, I did about a week or so of the cleanse in the book "Clean" above. I didn't really follow their program, but what I did do was fast (only water) for about 3 days and then I re-introduced just juice for several days. After that, I then only had a liquid meal for breakfast (soup broth) and then one solid meal a day (all the while drinking tons of Fiji water). I also had ramped up taking oil of oregano, as well as some other stuff (milk thistle and some 30 billion probiotics). I also focused on getting more sleep and ensuring that I had a 12 hour break at night between meals (and again, then the first meal of the day was liquid).
I also did a "flush" by drinking 2 oz of castor oil. That was real fun, let me tell you.
Okay, so this all spanned about a week, at which point I noticed that my finger and toe nails were all growing out a very light pink. As I think I mentioned previously, I had noticed that my toe nail had changed colors and was growing out more healthy and thinner looking. This change has now occurred with all my finger nails and toe nails now. This actually sort of startled me and so I decided to pause my intact of oil of oregano. I was still having bumps show up, but they tended to be slightly more mild.
At some point (about a week or so ago), I decided to stop taking the oil of oregano and give my body a break. Around this same time, I decided I would do a test and subject myself to a sudden increase in sugar. Part of this was simply due to frustration with not being able to enjoy a cup of coffee now and again and feeling like I couldn't eat anything without the fear of a break out. Anyway, so I suddenly stopped the "0 grams of sugar" per day and decided to include about 20 grams +/- of sugar. This allowed me to eat a Kit Kat here or there and/or have 1 small square of dark chocolate. I certainly didn't go crazy, but did allow myself to have "some sugar". I also had a few sips of my girlfriend's coffee and even drank a full cup of coffee (with 1/2 whole milk & half almond milk, along with some Coffee Mate Italian sweet creme). Much to my surprise, zero bumps. In fact, after doing this, it seemed that my skin improved and healed up a little more.
Since then (about a week ago), I have been including about 10 to 20 grams of sugar per day in my diet (I'm not talking about sugar normally found in foods, but I'm talking about "added sugar" from sources such as chocolate mainly).
So after doing this test (i.e. adding back some sugar into my diet), I noticed that the bumps stopped. This got me to wondering why this occurred, and I have come up with the following hypothesis:
My thinking is that when I gave up drinking cokes (about 9 months ago) and suddenly radically cut sugar out of my diet, perhaps I sparked a Candida die-off in my system (without really knowing it). If you look at my diet up to that point (over many, many years - like 20+ years), I had been consuming a steady supply of sugar by drinking cokes and eating junk food. Then, over the course of only a few weeks, I stopped drinking cokes (and eating junk food) nearly cold turkey. I did introduce coffee (once a day), which was probably not a good idea. Anyway, looking back, I wonder if perhaps this sudden drop in sugar triggered a massive die-off of yeast in my system? If that did occur (e.g. the change in sugar intake resulted in yeast inside my digestive track suddenly not being able to support themselves), the resulting die-off could have manifested itself as toxins coming out of my body. This is touched upon in the "Clean" book, by the way. The book also mentions that your largest organ (your skin) may take a hit while toxins leave your system and that this may manifest itself in allergic reactions and bumps, etc.
Okay, so then my assumption (and I don't know if I am right or wrong - but it seems to make sense) is that by adding back in some sugar, I have halted the yeast dying off. I figure some yeast is healthy, just like some bacteria is healthy (as far as existing in your digestive track).
Interestingly, when I first started having red bumps, I wondered that perhaps the problem related to Candida. At that time (about 8 or 9 months ago now), I did what's known as a spit test. This is where you spit into a glass of water, right after you first wake up (search youtube for a video example of a test). The idea is that, if you have a lot of yeast in your body, the spit test will show it; you'll see your saliva dropping down to the bottom of the glass and forming long tentacle like strings. I did the test and sure enough, it responded just like that (strings forming and dropping down to the bottom of the glass). At the time, I dismissed it because I thought it was a silly test.
Okay, fast forward 8 or 9 months. I did the test just the other day (this is after changing my diet and cutting out nearly all sugar over the last 9 months) and I was shocked at the difference. Instead of strings, my saliva just stayed on the surface of the water and dissolved. No strings whatsoever - only some very, very slight cloudiness (almost nothing however) appeared under the surface - but it was very minor. So this was a dramatic difference; if the test is accurate in measuring yeast in your system, then it shows that the levels in my system have gone from extremely high to almost non-existent.
This dramatic drop in yeast also tends to support my hypothesis that the cause of the red bumps may have been related to the dying off of yeast due to suddenly cutting out sugar (which, of course, the yeast needs in order to survive).
Anyway, for now, things seem to have stabilized. I have stopped taking oil of oregano, but over the coming months I plan to introduce that back into my diet. I also may do the more extended cleanse that the "Clean" book outlines, although right now I'm staying at my girlfriend's house, and her kitchen doesn't have all the stuff I need (such as the juicer and blender at my house).
So that's the latest. I'll give it another month or so and update again. Right now, I am happy to report that there are no new red bumps and the skin around my eyes is healing up nicely. I plan to continue having a limited amount of sugar with my diet, as well as maybe one cup of coffee (i.e. a latte) per week.
BTW, I should add also that I have stopped all creams for my skin. One in a while I put a little bit of the magic cream on, but mainly that is to keep the skin from drying out. I have also tried to get some sun, in order to boost the production of vitamin D.
So that's the latest here. I'll update again in a month or so.
One possible reason why the bumps appear over night (which was my experience also) is that your body goes into a "detox mode" about 8 hours after your last meal. This is why it's important to give your body a 12 hour window between meals. If you are always eating, your body doesn't have a chance to finish digestion and then work on removing built up toxins from your system. Moreover, because this removal of toxins from your system occurs while you are sleeping, that may explain why you see the bumps in the morning and/or the next day. This was the situation in my case most of the time and I believe it relates to why I would wake up to fresh bumps.
I, like you, initially thought the cause was something related to my sheets or the bedroom, etc. I vacuumed up any/all dust and ran an air purifier, etc. None of that mattered in the end. My eventual conclusion was that the source of the problem was internal, not external. Yes, putting creams on the skin helps, but in my experience it largely only helps resolve whatever current symptoms you have (e.g. the red bumps), while doing little if anything as far as resolving the re-occurrences. I did notice that the magic cream stuff helped my skin however. Not only did it improve the appearance of the skin around my eyes, but it seemed to cause the bumps to migrate out further away from the corners of my eyes (which was a welcome change!). Despite these changes, the cream did not stop the bumps.
Do you drink or smoke or use any sort of drugs (prescription or otherwise). You mentioned a journal of what you eat, which can be helpful. But are you taking into account stuff like toothpaste, mouth wash, etc? What about soaps and detergents? Myself, I switched to brushing my teeth with a tiny bit of baking soda. I also use only "free and clear" type laundry detergents. I've started working towards removing as many chemicals from my life and household as humanly possible.
Also, does your diet include any sources of sugar and/or high fructose corn syrup? If so, you might want to do some research on those and see about reducing them. Same with any fried foods. Search "the bitter truth" on youtube and you'll find some good videos.
Keep in mind also, it can take a while for your body to respond to changes. I changed my diet nearly a year ago and I'm still seeing changes and improvements occurring.
Another thing to take note of is not just your house, but the area in which your house is located. I had a situation some years back where I was having horrible problems and finally tracked the source down to this crazy tree that was full of flowers and pollen outside my condo. The issue also related to the fact that I was leaving the downstairs bathroom window open (so the cat could use the window to go outside or come inside while I was at work). That part worked fine, but because it was right next to this tree, the pollen was coming into the bathroom all day and thus into my bedroom all day. I couldn't figure out what was wrong (I was coughing constantly). After going to 3 doctors (who didn't know what the F they were doing and who just treated the symptoms - i.e. the cough) I finally ended up at a cardiopulmonary specialist, who correctly diagnosed what was going on. Once he identified the problem as a sever allergic reaction to pollen, I was able to stand back and trace the issue to this tree outside my window. Removing the tree resolved the problem of pollen during the summer months.
So you just never know.
In my case, with the red bumps, I initially thought it was related to my house or something in my home, etc. However, even when I would spend 3 or 4 weeks at my girlfriend's house, I would still have nothing but problems. That pretty much eliminated any possibilities that the problem was due to external sources that related to my house.
I am glad I found this forum. My 10 month old daughter has had these little red bumps under her eye for about a month. I finally broke down and went to the dr. yesterday and guess what he told me to do...put Eucerine on it. I was like, "REALLY! I just paid you $20 copay for you to tell me to put some lotion on it and not tell me what is causing it!" I have been doing it for about a day now and it is actually getting worse! So needless to say, I am not going to put anymore on. However, from reading everyone else's posts, I really think it might have something to do with diet, specifically milk. As I mentioned, my daughter is 10 mo, so I have slowly been introducing new food items into her diet. At her 9 month visit, the dr. gave us the go-ahead to give her milk and other dairy products. Guess what, this eye thing has been flaring up ever since I have been giving her small amounts of dairy (yogurt, icecream, etc.) Last night we had noodles with milk in them and her eye is HORRIBLE today. I am a HUGE skeptic about milk and didnt want to give it to her anyways but my husband wanted me to, so I did. I am going to cut it out again and see if it goes away. I am not going to put any topical cream on any more either. If I notice any improvment, I will update.
Breast milk is very healthy for a baby; I told my girlfriend she is going to breast feed our babies until they are 5 years old haha :-) Just kidding, but for as long as possible.
Note, humans are the only creatures on earth which steal breast milk from another species and drink it - and most of that is due to some slick advertising campaigns from the 50's and 60's - i.e. "Milk does a body good". Who says?
I do not drink milk and use it very limitedly in my cooking. You should check into Almond Milk. It's a healthy alternative. Man has survived hundreds of thousands of years without drinking the milk from cows, I'm pretty sure we are good without it. Also, don't believe the hype about it helping your bones, it doesn't. It actually is counter productive in that area if I recall correctly, but again, slick marketing makes people believe that drinking milk will help your bones, even though it tends to have the opposite effect. I recently watched a video where they explained how drinking milk actually leaches the calcium from your bones (if I run across that video again, I'll post it). In the meantime, here is some information:
I would be very careful what you feed your baby during its early stages of life. Breast milk should be plenty, until they can handle other foods. But if you already have healthy milk from your body, why are cutting off that supply and introducing milk from a cow? Doesn't make sense.
Also, be careful with today's baby foods - specifically stuff like similac. The reason many babies/kids are over weight is due to high fructose corn syrup, which is widely used in those baby foods. Go on youtube and google "the bitter truth" and you can find a good video about it.
As far as creams, I've had the best luck with that magic cream stuff, although it might be a little bit strong for a baby's skin. I have found if I put it on before bed, it does wonders. I also use hydrogen peroxide, but that might be too much for a baby's delicate skin.
On food, yogurt is probably okay, but I would avoid icecream myself. Have you ever made icecream from scratch? It's almost all sugar and milk. Not exactly healthy for a child, nor an adult. If you are looking for some sort of "icecream" type thing to feed your baby, then check into making a berry/juice based icecream. In our area, the local Costco has a stand every so often where this guy demonstrates the blenders used by Jamba Juice. I forget the brand, by they are ungodly expensive (like $400). Hang on, let me go get the info sheet with the recipes and it may have the name. Anyway, at the stand, the guy made this ice cream stuff using juices and it was amazing. You might want to make something like that for your baby. Let me get the recipe...
okay, here you go... it doesn't have the product name on the sheet, but here is their recipe for their ice cream sorbet:
1. Raspberry or Peach 100% juice concentrate (1/2 can)
2. 1/2 orange or slice of pineapple (no rind)
3. Whole Nectar soy protein (1/2 scoop)
4. Cabbage (small piece)
5. Baby carrots - 4
6. Banana - 1/2 peeled
7. Ice cubes - 3 cups
Blend on high for 45-60 seconds.
Okay, a couple of comments, I personally am not a huge fan of Soy products, so you might want to shop around for other powders and/or leave it out. Second, most drinking water has trace amounts of prescription drugs in it these days (due to people flushing pills down the toilet). I never drink anything but bottled water and double filter my ice cubes).
The above sorbet is very good and easy to make. It should also be easy for a baby to digest, yet has some healthy and natural stuff in it.
At the demo booth (oh, the product was called Blendtec as I recall).. I believe this is their website:
okay, so here is the latest. In my case, it's absolutely, positively, related to anything with sugar in it. As long as I avoid any sort of junk food, candy, etc. then I'm fine and my skin heals up. If I cheat and have a Katkit (my girlfriend's favorite) or a Reese big cup (my favorite) - and can we just have a moment of silence for how good the Reese Big Cups are, as well as my current inability to enjoy them? - then I'm screwed. If I start eating any thing along those lines, then over the next 24 to 36 hours I'm in trouble. I can almost watch the reaction occur around the skin around my eyes. It's almost like hives.
So, for me, the solution has been to totally cut out the candy and junk food. Even eating pizza is a bit touch and go sometimes (probably due to the flour and sugar used to make the crust).
The strange thing is that I have consumed tons and tons of sugar over my life, so I don't know why I would suddenly be so sensitive to it. The only hypothesis I can draw is that it may have something to do with candida die off. If you figure that I was taking in on the order of 120 to 150 grams of sugar per day (that's over 100 lbs of sugar per year, by the way *cough*) and then suddenly cut 90% of that out, it follows that any yeast in my system would have to die off. I think I mentioned above that I did that spit test and it showed a drastic reduction in yeast. The test I did about a year ago suggested a lot of yeast in my system and the test I did just last month showed almost zero.
I'm not quite sure why having sugar again would cause a reaction, but perhaps it has something to do with the recent assault against yeast. I also introduced oil of oregano, which is supposed to do a pretty good job of killing yeast. The only thing I can figure is that my digestive track doesn't have enough yeast in it to properly digest the sugar and therefore my body views it as something harmful - but I really have no idea. Maybe today I'll swing by the health food store and ask for opinions from the folks who work there. Even though they tend to be on the hippie side, they are pretty knowledgeable about health :-)
The other thing to note, specifically about sugar, is that it shares some characteristics with drugs. Highly refined sugar does not occur naturally in nature. It's a product that is refined until it's much stronger and more concentrated - it's no wonder the body reacts as it does when you eat a candy bar. Look at something like meth or cocaine or something - those are also products that are highly refined until their strength is magnitudes stronger than what is found in nature. I've never done any drug, but I will be that the difficulty getting off those drugs is similar to the difficulty I had kicking my life long sugar addiction.
The other thing I wanted to mention was that I have found that using hydrogen peroxide on my skin seems to help. The current routine I have is this: shower in the morning, then shower before bed. Before going to bed, I put on that magic cream. It seems to really make a difference. And when I do notice my skin acting up (such as if I have some food that has sugar in it), then putting the hydrogen peroxide on any areas that are looking questionable seems to stop the reaction in its tracks (I still have a couple of bumps and irritated areas around my eyes that are healing). Overall, however, I'm about 90% healed up now and each day my skin heals more and more. I do have some discolored areas around my eyes, but I think that's just because the skin takes forever to regenerate. I suspect in a few more months the skin will be totally flawless again.
Also, my finger nails and toe nails continue to grow out a nice pink color. In fact, I use this to gauge my progress now. One time I went back to consuming some sugar and within a couple of days I noticed both the toe nails on my big toes changed to a darker red. When I went back to zero grams of sugar per day, then I noticed they started to grow back out pink again. Another 4 to 6 months and I think my finger nails will be totally light pink - we'll see.
Okay, that's the latest. These days I eat almost zero sugar per day (outside of what is found in normal foods). I am also super careful about what I eat and try to stick to eating a lot of salads and home cooked meals. Trying to avoid a lot of white flour stuff also these days, although man... croissants are just so darn good :-)
Off to Whole pay check, I mean Whole Foods...
I'll update again in a while. So far though, no new bumps to speak of. My skin is looking great and as long as I avoid junk food, then I'm fine. Also haven't had milk or coffee in I don't know how long. I think 1 cup in the last 2 months.
Thank you for the post! I know it has to be something that she is eating but I can't pin-point it. I have been stopping various things for a day or two at a time to see if I notice any improvement but I dont. Some mornings she wakes up and it is almost completely gone and within an hour or so it comes back. However, it hasnt been as bad as it was after putting lotion on it though (dumb doctor).
You have many of the same viewpoints about milk and soy as I do. I use almond milk myself but I think she may be too young due to precautions about nut allergies. Her milk exposure has been very very limited though, so I dont know if that is the cause. I do breastfeed, so she doesnt get formula at all. I give her all organic products like Earth's Best and Plum and I make my own baby food to avoid added ingredients but I should check some of the snacks I give her for sugar. My stepmom buys her Gerber yogurt melts which I dont like because they're not organic and they have some added ingredients but I dont have the heart to ask her not to buy them because my daughter loves them. Maybe I will stop those for a few days and see.
Its funny that you mention that blender! We just bought a Vitamixer after watching a demo at Sam's Club. It was a small fortune but we have been making some awesome smoothies! The recipes you posted look similar to the ones we tried during the demo. I have been throwing random stuff together like spinach, pineapple, almond milk, carrots, and honey. I have been using the soy protein because they gave it to me for free but once it is gone I will probably grab some whey or rice protein powder. I haven't quite figured out how to make the sorbet but I am working on it! I am also going to throw some ingredients together for popsicles for my little munchkin.
Thank you for the advice. I am going to continue to fiddle with her diet (starting with the yogurt melts) and see if I can figure it out.
Sounds like you are on the right track. One thing to keep in mind is that it can take a while to see results from changing in your diet. For example, when I eat something with a lot of sugar (such as when I had a big cup reese a while back), the impact of that can last for up to 3 or 4 days. Then it can take a week or so until my skin begins to heal.
In my case, once I had an out break, I noticed that many foods I used to be able to eat fine were suddenly stuff I had to avoid. I suspect what happens is that you over load your system; then once that happens, it takes a long time to get back to normal. In my case, I noticed that if I did a cleanse (e.g. following the cleaning program outlined in the book "Clean" - which I mentioned above), then I could get away with eating a bit of sugar for a while. However, if I cheated too much, then after a while it would catch back up with me.
At this point, I have just basically given up all sugars. For a while, I was having one tiny square of dark chocolate after dinner, but I have even given that up. So now, it's basically zero sugar. I'm going to stay on that diet for a year or so. I'm also eating more soups for lunch, since liquid food is supposed to be easier to digest. Luckily I really like soup :-)
The other thing about milk is that it can contain hormones, which are often given to cows. In the Clean book, the doctor (i.e. the author), relates a story about a patient whose little girl started to develop at the age of only 5 or 6 or something. They traced her early development back to hormones from milk. Once they stopped giving her milk, her development halted. Now that's scary.
You have to be extremely careful about what you put into your body. I really feel like most of the corporations that handle our food these days don't care about much beyond making a dollar. You should watch some of the videos on hulu, such as Food Inc, etc. What companies such as Monstano are doing is criminal if you ask me. Since I started having problems with my skin, I have switched to all organic foods and have been extremely careful about what I do and don't eat. I used to eat whatever and didn't think twice about it. I've even stopped using toothpaste and have switched to using baking soda. All growing up I never had any problems, but when I turned 43 or 44, that's when suddenly my diet made a much bigger difference in how I felt from day to day.
Anyway, I'm no expert on babies, but I can only imagine that what you feed a young child/baby must be very important as well. I was telling my girlfriend the other day, she's nursing our kids (when we have some) as long as possible. However long monkeys in the wild do, that's what we are shooting for. Monkeys aren't subject to advertising.. whatever routine they have come up with, we are sticking to that.
Just a quick update. I've switched to eating all organically grown foods now and have absolutely cut sugar out of my diet. I'm now working on making sure there are no (or few) products that contain high fructose corn syrup around the house. I have also been making sure that my first meal in the morning is soup (or liquid) - sometimes with a little wheat bread.
My skin is looking amazing again - finally! I've also been taking oil of oregano twice a day (in the morning and evening). The other thing is that I have been showering before bed, instead of (or sometimes in addition to) in the morning. I've noticed that showering and going to be with clean skin seems to accelerate the healing process (since you do most of your healing over night and it seems that your skin reacts better to being clean when you go to sleep, as opposed to clean throughout the day). I also put on the magic cream at night, but no longer during the day.
I'm almost 100% healed now and there have been no new red bumps for longer than I can remember in quite a while (probably the longest in almost a year). There are currently just a very few faint areas on my skin (that where previous bad breakouts around my eyes) that are now healing up steadily. At this rate, another week and I should be back to 100%.
I've learned so much over the last year - about health and diet. I've also dropped almost 15 lbs that I didn't think I could ever lose (from 165 down to 151 - after going from 180 down to 165 last year). I'm gonna start lifting weights again (I used to bodybuild in my late 20's) and continue on this path. Feeling better than ever.
It's all about diet and what you put into your body. And, unless it's a specific skin infection on the surface, then it's generally not about some silly cream an uninterested doctor tells you to rub on the symptoms.
When I first had this problem, my girlfriend urged me to go see a doctor. Certainly understandable advice, but I refused on the grounds that I could get to the bottom of the root cause myself. I believe I have accomplished that now.
Your body has an amazing ability to heal itself - if given the chance.
Anyway, hopefully all the posts on this thread will help other people in the future. Like I say, I have learned a tremendous amount about diet and how the body, digestive system and health works. It took the better part of a year to figure everything out, but I am feeling and looking so much better and am so much healthier now, I almost feel like a new person.
Have a good weekend. I'll update more later and/or as needed.
I'm so glad I found this forum. Ray-- I can't thank you enough for taking the time to share your story and information. You've probably helped way more people than you could imagine and we all owe you one!
I started having the red bumps under my eyes just around Easter, so about 6 months now. It just got so much worse overnight last night. It comes and goes, but never completely goes away. Now has spread down to almost my cheek area. I'm going to cut out sugar and milk and do a yeast cleanse. I consider myself pretty healthy-- i eat only organic fruits and veggies and meats, etc. i avoid high fructose corn syrup and trans fats... but we do eat out at restaurants once a week or so, and you can't avoid all that stuff there. I eat a lot of chocolate, even though it's organic, and i also overindulge in alcohol at times. I'm going to cut it all out now and see what helps when i re-introduce things to my diet again. I think I will go to the doctor and see if they can test for milk or egg allergies... not sure if that's even possible. Also want to get tested for Celiac just in case.
Someone mentioned in a post that it was herpes related. Maybe a possiblity because I also get canker sores in my mouth and have since i was little, under ten years old. That is herpes related too. But after reading your posts, Ray, and thinking about it, it makese sense it is yeast-related. I will write back and let you all know how it goes now that i'm strictly eliminating all sugar, wheat, and dairy (also alcohol, which will be difficult!) from my diet. Thank you again,
Try doing a spit test and see what sort of results you get.
In my experience, you have to be very strict with your diet, as far as no sugar or junk food goes. For example, if I start drinking coffee (with milk and coffee mate), my eyes will break out again after a few days. If I stop, then it will clear back up. It seems to be a cumulative effect, also. In other words, if I have just a little bit of espresso with milk, here or there, I might get a bump or two. However, it will clear up in a day. But if I keep drinking espresso with milk (and coffee mate) day after day, then the red bumps will start to build up.
If I stop everything and go back to eating very healthy again, then within a week, my skin will totally clear up. But, if I start drinking coffee or having chocolate or anything along those lines, then I will start to get clusters of little bumps around my eyes again.
In my case, it's absolutely related to diet. The only thing I haven't really sorted out is whether it's specifically related to coffee, steamed half & half or the chemicals in the coffee mate that I use. I just bought a new espresso machine the other day, so I am going to try to figure out specifically what is the cause, because I do like to enjoy espresso. My hope is I can still drink espresso with steamed almond milk or at least have an espresso now and again.
As far as alcohol, my view is that it's a poison to your body. Nothing good comes from drinking it long term. Many people I know and in my family have died from drinking alcohol. And you'd be surprised, it doesn't take as much as you think to do in your liver. My Dad's mom died from liver failure at 42 from only having one or two glasses of per day. A guy I went to school with died of liver failure at 39 due to constant drinking.
If you are very, very careful with what you put into your body, I bet your eyes will clear up in a week or so. You just have to have a very healthy diet and avoid stuff like sugar, chocolate, etc. I also try to avoid milk as much as I can, although I do love steamed milk in my lattes :-)
1. Cold sores are caused by HSV1 (oral herpes) and something like 95% of the population over the age of 25 or 30 has it. I doubt it's related to the bumps around your eyes, since HSV1 likes your mouth basically. The other thing is that when you improve your overall health and diet, your body will function better and tend to keep the cold sores at bay much more. Also, depending on your age, out breaks of HSV1 become less and less with age. When I was in my 20's, I would get cold sores inside my mouth from time to time. When I got into my 30's and 40's, they would only occur maybe once every 5 or so years, if that.
2. Putting vitamin E oil around the corner of your eyes and/or on the red bumps seems to help. The magic cream stuff does also, but using vitamin E during the day and before you go to sleep seems to do a better job of keeping the skin from drying out (and seems to help speed the healing of the skin in that area). You can buy pure vitamin E at most good quality vitamin shops (just make sure to get pure vitamin E and not a mixture with other oils in it).
I am back and excited to share that I think I found the cuprit to my daughter's eye bumps. Gerber yogurt melts!! I was giving her these everyday with meals. We went on vacation and I didnt bring them and by the 2nd day, the bumps were gone. We figured it was either the yogurt melts or our dog since he wasnt with us. When we got home we continued to not give her the melts and being back with the dog they didnt come back!! I dont know what they put in theirs that the other brand that I give her dont but they have not returned and it is almost 2 months later. Now she's got a little bit of diaper rash going on so the dr. said to put lotrimin on it because it looked like yeast. I think it is due to either pasta or sugar because I gave her some pasta with her veggies and I made sweet potato muffins and there was about a cup of sugar in the recipe. She must have a sugar sensitivity or something. I am going to the health food store to get some probiotics.
That's some good news :-) I would tread easily when it comes to giving someone very young probiotics. I think I would err on the side of removing the bad stuff and then just allowing her to just adjust naturally for a bit.
As far as stuff you buy in the store, you have to be careful these days, because company put a lot of crap into their foods. Organic is the way to go.
With me, if I am very careful, then all the red bumps clear up and go away. But if I start getting lax and drinking coffee or having sugar, etc. then they will come right back. It takes about 3 to 4 days for them to clear up again.
BTW.. keep in mind that potatoes have a lot of starch in them and starches are basically just tightly bound sugars. Enzymes will break starches down into sugar. This is why when you bake bread, the crust turns brown and it tastes great - even though you started with just water and horrible tasting flour :-) Enzymes in the flour transform the flour starches into sugars in the dough and when you bake the bread, the sugars brown and (hopefully) give the bread a wonderful flavor.
If you have food allergies, everything that goes never your mouth has to be suspect! :-)
Just wanted to say thanks for your comment about this being a yeast infection and not going into the laborious and unnecessary detail of everything you have eaten, drank or done with your life in the last 5 years ad nauseum. The Monistat IS working. It's nice not to see a big ole' rash under my eyes every morning. You truly are the wise one, and the to the point one. Cheers.
Miconazole (aka Monistat) is an antifungal agent that is used for skin infections such as athlete's foot, jock itch and for vaginal yeast infections. If you have gotten a yeast infection under your eyes, then Monistat should work fine. However, that's not always the cause of the red bumps being discussed on this thread. If the solution was just to buy some vaginal infection cream and rub it under your eyes, this thread would be much shorter.
In many cases, the out breaks are a direct result of an allergic reaction to something you are ingesting; in those cases, all the topical monistat in the world won't do much good.
Also, keep in mind that that topical monistat can help offset yeast related symptoms on the surface of the skin, but if the root cause is internal (instead of external) - such as with something like Candida - then they will often come back.
I had a rash around my eyes and some around my nose as well. I thought I got it from my husband because he had something similar for years that would flair up every few days if he didn't put a steroid cream around his eyes. I tried the steroid cream and it made mine better too, but it gave me the willies because I've read steroid cream is really bad for your eyes long terms, i.e,. = chance for cataracts or glaucoma.
I went first to a regular doctor and he gave me mycolog, which didn't help. Next, a dermatologist said it was adult acne (perioral acne or something like that) and/or rosacea and gave me 100 mg of Minocin twice a day. It worked like magic. The eye and nose rash went away almost immediately. Strangely, it also made my skin really really soft. (I've had a problem with my whole face feeling like sandpaper for 10 years or so - no matter what creams or washes I tried to make it better).
But I was also having a bad reaction to the strong dose of minocin - gave me dry mouth, made my stomach hurt and made my sense of taste really dull (all food was like eating cardboard). So derm-boy switched me to 100mg of Doxycycline twice a day. It did nothing and the bumps came back. I went back to the Minocycline, but took only 1 per day. The side-effects decreased and my eyes and nose cleared back up and it has not come back. Unfortunately, the soft skin never came back! It went back to sand-paper face.
I went back to the derm a few months later and showed him how the rash cleared up, but how the skin was dry again. He said the strong antibiotic might have "soothed" the overall rosacea and agreed to give me a different antibiobiotic just to see what it would do. He gave me Solodyn 65mg once a day, which is some type of a (really expensive) new extended-release antibiotic. Again, my skin became soft as a baby within a week, plus most of my normal redness went away. He only gave me two months worth, but I'm going to beg him to give me more!!! Just wanted to share my results!
One more thing I forgot to say. It turns out my husband probably had something like this originally, but his doctor gave him steroid cream (mometasone furoate) and then a series of doctors continued to prescribe it for him (without question) for years. My dermatologist saw him and said he had probably developed a "steroid addiction" to the cream that was making the problem continuous where it probably would have eventually gotten better with other treatment. This derm gave him Protopic, which is a non-steroid cream 2x/day, and his eyes are gradually getting better. It's supposed to take a couple of months before the steroid reaction is totally gone, and it seems to be working. the derm said he can likely stop using the protopic as well after a few months and his eyes should be back to normal.
Wow, I just found this thread after reluctantly ordering another expensive ointment for this very same problem!
I started getting these irritating little blemishes around 6 - 7 years ago on my eyelids. As I have suffered from sporadic dermatitis on my hands all of my life, I had a tube of betnovate steroid cream to hand and used that. Knowing that it was not any good from my eye area I sought out alternative treatments. Well, I could list everything I've tried from Witch Hazel to Goat's milk, bit I'm sure you have tried a similar cocktail of remedies yourself.
I looked at my diet, tried anti-histemines and although some things appeared to help, the problem always came back.
Over the years the problem has gotten progressively worse with it now appearing around my mouth and sometimes on my cheeks. Never so bad that a bit of make up doesn't cover it, but I do treat it too.
I now use a cream called magicream that comes in a little yellow pot, it isn't cheap at £8 for 10 ml, but it really works for me and clears up any flare ups within a day.
The thing is though I don't want to keep paying that much for a cream so when I read this thread whilst researching further causes/remedies I had a eureka moment. I too can pretty much pin-point the exact moment that these bumps started coincides with when I deveoped a taste for coffee and probably chocolate as the two seem to go so well togerther.
Now this is not great news as I am a self professed caffein junkie and chocoholic, but then that does make sense that I can't get rid of this rash eh?
With some regret as I really don't want to give either up, I will try and eliminate one at a time and see if it yields any answers.
First off, thanks so much to EVERYONE who posted their information. I've been struggling with this problem for close to a month now and was actualyl quite relieved to see others describing my exact symptoms. My red bumps appeared ( a few under my right eye and just next to my left eye) literally overnight one day last month. I didn't think much of it, figuring it was an allergy, and ignored it. When it didn't go away I tried OTC hydrocortisone which didn't do much, then tried Cetaphil which has helped in the past with my son's eczema to no avail. After a week I ended up in the doctor's office and was prescribed a steroid cream, which I applied and cleared up the problem almost completely for a little while....the irritation nearly disappeared and I stopped using the cream about a week ago. The day before yesterday though, lo and behold, they were back and there was a couple small ones under my left eye as well that weren't there before.
In reading all of the posts, mbuck11's mention of her baby having the problem didn't catch my eye at first, but then later she posted that the culprit looks like it was Gerber yogurt melts and I immediately wanted to smack myself in the forehead. Thinking back, I realize that just before I started having the problem a month ago I started eating yogurt for the first time in years, and stopped for a little bit while I was using the steroid cream...then bought some and started eating it again right before the latest flare up. I'm going to try not eating it for a bit and see what happens.
Also, just a note, the body can change at the drop of a hat....something you've used or eaten for years without any noticeable effect can suddenly cause weird things to happen. My wife works with someone who used the same concealing makeup for 20 years with no ill effects and then all of a sudden one day she was allergic to it and it caused her to break out. The company hadn't changed anything at all about the makeup or the packaging or anything...her body just suddenly started rejecting it. Same with me...I've eaten yogurt plenty of times before but hadn't had it in a few years until last month.
I'm betting (hoping) I'll see a difference. Will report back later!
As outlined above, I narrowed down the source of the red bumps around my eyes to anything relating to sugar, chocolate or coffee (primarily). By eating super healthy and avoiding certain stuff (sugar & coffee), I was able to keep the outbreaks down to a minimum. So that was good, but I really missed having coffee or a cookie here and there.
After a while, I got to wondering: why would I suddenly be allergic to these things, after having been able to eat them all my life. In fact, why would I be allergic to anything at all?
So I started to try to understand why your body mounts an allergic reaction to something. I mean, what's going wrong? In searching / reading, it seemed that this occurs when something gets into your blood that the body views as bad. Okay fine. So then this begs the question, why is consuming sugar or drinking coffee causing something to end up in my blood? Around this time, I ran into a link (I think on this site actually), which described something called "leaky gut". Apparently it's more of less of a hypothesis, which basically suggests that a compromised stomach lining can allow food to leak directly into the blood stream (as opposed to being properly digested). When this occurs (as near as I can figure), the food goes directly into the blood stream and your body is like WTF is this doing in here? That's when you get an allergic reaction.
This was an interesting bit of information, because all this started right after I went on a campaign to eradicate yeast from my digestive track. As mentioned, I had spent 30 odd years on a high sugar diet, full of junk food, etc. My thinking was that if my stomach lining was full of yeast and then I suddenly killed all the yeast, it might leave holes (sort of like where the yeast had put in roots into my stomach lining). The link I found described using some supplements to rebuild the lining.
If you google "leaky gut", you can find a lot of information.
So this made sense. I killed the yeast, the yeast had dug holes into my digestive track. Now that the yeast was gone, those holes were open and stuff like sugar, coffee, etc. had a direct route into my blood system. It sounded like quite a long shot at first, but the more I started thinking about it, the more I thought this could be a link that explained why I was suddenly allergic to so many foods that I used to consume without any problem at all.
In the information on leaky gut, they listed L-Glutamine as being a supplement that helped rebuild the lining of the digestive track. If I'm not mistake, they mentioned it's used by people with ulcers, in order to aid in repairing the stomach lining, etc.
Anyway, so I visited a local health food store and purchased some. I also bought some digestive enzymes (a product called "Digest Gold" and also its counter part called "Repair Gold"). Zinc was another one, as well as some general probiotics.
So, over the course of the next month or so, I took relatively heavy amounts of all of these (the Glutamine, Digest Gold and Digest Repair, as well as the Zinc and probiotics). After about 2 or 3 weeks, I decided to give it a test. I had some espresso and some cookies. Now, normally this would cause a huge out break of red bumps or it would cause the skin around my eyes to flare up. However, in this case, nothing happened. I couldn't believe it. I kept taking the supplements and after about a month or so, I stopped (due to having to help my girlfriend move in).
Anyway, after the month of taking all the supplements, I took a week break - just to give my body a rest. During that week, I bought a huge box of cookies and finished them off. I also went back to drinking several espressos per day. Now, under previous circumstances, even practically breathing in coffee fumes would cause my skin to itch or bumps to break out. Now, however, nothing. No bumps, nada. Maybe just a very faint pink color for an hour, but it's hard to say if that's not my imagination. The key point here is that after a week solid of drinking espresso and enjoying that box of cookies, I had zero red bumps develop.
The week is up now and I've gone back on the supplements (I'm going to do them for another month or so). However, the fact that I could enjoy coffee, have some sugar (even had 3 boxes of cracker jacks lol :-) The fact that none of this caused even a single red bump to develop around my eyes is absolutely astounding news for me - frankly, I feel like I have my life back.
In my mind, there has to be a link here. I believe the leaky gut thing (or weakness around an area of the digestive track known as the "tight junction" may be to blame. Whatever the case, the fact that taking these supplements and suddenly having all my problems vanish is just too big of a coincidence to ignore.
Granted, this may not be the cause/care for everyone. However, in the event that some of the people posting and/or reading this thread are suffering from the same sort of situation, I wanted to follow up and relate the good news. If you are having bizarre allergic reactions, google "leaky gut" and read up on the treatments, especially taking L-Glutamine. It seems to have worked wonders for my situation.
I stopped eating yogurt to no avail...the irritation was darker and heavier than before and wouldn't relent, so I finally got in to a dermatologist.
Periocular dermatitis. It's related to rosacea and is bacterial.
I was prescribed doxycycline, which I've been on for 4 days and the bumps have almost completely disappeared. I expect that they will be gone for good soon, but the antibiotic is a two month course...and I'm told that afterward it should be completely knocked out and will not return.
Google Ocular Rosacea. Notice a few tenets associated with this condition: burning, sometimes itching eyes, often noticed after 30, accompanied by blepharitis/red bumps around eyes. After reading up on this, I self-diagnosed, given that an ophthalmologist and a dermatologist both acted like I was crazy when I pursued these bumps (not knowing yet about o.r.). Once I started to speak to a few people about this, it became apparent that many were being diagnosed with, and treated for, the resultant symptoms and not ocular rosacea itself.
I have combated this for a week now, and I think I've found the key. The bumps are largely caused by contaminants in your lashes and around the lids. Thus, cleaning around the eye is paramount. I've alternated between an anit-bacterial soap for dry, sensitive skin and Occusoft wipes made expressly for this purpose. Sometimes, I wash with the soap in the shower and use the wipes at night, before bed.
Finally, water consumption helps. Part of why this is an issue is dryness of the eyes. Something like 96% of the eye is water; it needs sustenance daily. Artificial tears (not preserved) help, as do other lubricating drops. I would personally caution against Visine or other products that 'get the red out'. Every time I've personally used these, my symptoms have gotten worse. Also, a personal note: I've had acute rosacea from my twenties on, but never these issues with my eyes; they sometimes burned, or even itched, but the bumps didn't appear until I started using P.M. ointment (petroleum based). If you add contaminants, the condition will probably worsen--it's best to keep the area dry and clean and be sparing with the creams, etc.
I have been following this thread for quite some time now. I have been suffering with red rash under my eyes for over a year now. It started back in Feb 2010 after I used a new skin lotion. It started as a small patch at the side of my right eye and over the course of 2 months the rash spread under both of my eyes. I was referred to dermatologist who did a skin patch test to test me for chemicals in cosmetics but nothing showed up. I was given hydrocortisone cream and I was discharged. The cream did absolutely nothing for me so I started searching the internet for possible cause. That’s how I found the Magicream – full of natural ingredients as the website claims. I have been using the cream for about 9 months now and it has been amazing. It clears the rash almost within hours and my skin stays clean for about 4 days afterwards. There is very little information on the internet about Magicream and the company are quite secretive about what’s in it, all they tell you it’s that is almost all natural ingredients. Almost. What they don’t tell you is that the cream contains Clobetasol propionate ( a powerful steroid) and Ketoconazole (seriously strong anti-fungal cream). How do I know this for sure? Well, couple of days ago I searched the web to see if I can find any info on the long term effects of using this cream and I came across the Irish Medical Board website. They have tested the cream and on 25Jan this year issued a warning to all users to discontinue the cream immediately. The ingredients in the cream can only be prescribed by medical professionals in Ireland and it is unclear if the steroids in the cream are of good quality. This steroid is only normally prescribed when everything else fails, it is serious stuff. This is the reason why the cream works so well – not the herbs but the steroids make it work really effectively. I was told by my doctor, that anything that works so fast cannot be natural – think about it, it makes a perfect sense. What is terrible is that the company even recommends using it on children. I have stopped using the cream last week and the reaction has been terrible. The symptoms came back much worse and have now spread onto my cheeks and above my eyes. Apparently, that’s the case with steroids. I have an appointment with the Burghwood clinic here in the UK for next week as I am going to try the elimination diet. I will let you know how I get on.
To: Ray666: You have been a great source of information so far – can you let us know how you’ve been getting on since your last post?
Just to heap on the last comment about magic cream: I actually use that steroid (clobetasol propionate) at times to control the symptoms, but it is NOT good to use near the eye. The Occusoft wipes I alluded to in the last post are very effective. I also wrote that I was using Cetaphil anti-bacterial soap; it doesn't work as well as the wipes. I've been able to mostly control it with these wipes, but it always culminates in a day where the symptoms are bad enough to use the cream. I have a follow-up appointment with my dermatologist on the 31st of March, where I will once again bring up the eye situation, but it seems like this is something for which medical 'professionals' have no clue.
Sorry I didn't answer the post above, I don't check back here too often, but I did answer the PM you sent.
Just so everyone else can see the answers, I was diagnosed by a dermatologist and the Doxycycline cleared up my symptoms in a matter of a couple days. I'm about to finish off the first of two months of it and have had absolutely no signs of the symptoms since then.
The Doxycyclene at first was hard on my stomach but honestly that only lasted a few days. It's best initially to take it on a full stomach until you're used to it, but after about a week I didn't have any side effects at all (read: my body got used to it and they completely abated). Alcohol isn't totally forbidden while you're on it, but keep it in moderation if you drink.
And...just another note for everyone that my dermatologist gave me...if periocular dermatitis is the cause of your red bumps, the use of steroid creams is NOT recommended AT ALL.
It will clear things up breifly and soothe the soreness a little, but then once you stop using it, the symptoms will return and they will be even worse. It then turns into a vicious cycle and you keep using the steroid to make it better, which eventually makes it even worse, etc, ad nauseum. My dermatologist was actually quite relieved when I told her that I'd only used the prescription steroid cream I was given by my gen. practitioner for about ten days and hadn't started using it again because if you've been using it off and on for a while, you'll have to be eased off of it.
The fact that after I used the cream and then observed more prevalent symptoms a few days after stopping it was actually one of the things that helped my dermatologist diagnose me.
Just a follow-up. I've been on doxycycline for 7 days now. My symptoms are definitely abating, as are some other spots (seborrheic derm). It's not a miracle or anything, but I went from having spots around my eyes all the time to occasionally having small bumps here and there that disappear after a night's sleep. I would say it was worth it, although I'm waiting for this to go away altogether. Just a side note: there were a few days there where i thought my stomach was going to drop out. It still makes me feel bad for a few minutes about thirty minutes after I take it, but it's not unbearable. I'll keep you posted.
Okay, so i've read pretty much everyone's posts, and i am going to explain my situation...
I have these friggen BIG red bumps ONLY under one eye (my right). I see one teeny weenie pimple thingy on the top, but hardly noticeable at all. At first i thought it was my makeup remover.. but that didnt make sense cause it's only under one eye. My diet has not changed, I am lactose intollerant, so i avoid dairy, I barely ever consume sugar, etc etc. Last year my physician prescribed a whole bunch of acne treatment things ointments (retin a, clindexyl? some thing in a tube and another as a wipe?) these have literally burned the crap out of my face. I have extremely sensitive skin. I break out over anything, kind of a pain in the ***, seeing as just a few years ago i had unreal skin. I went to a derm. she tried to tell me I have rosacea? got a second opinion, and i don't.
I am honestly so flustered with my skin, like, its embarrassing! i'm 21 years old, i barely wear any makeup and to have this "adult acne" (so my physician says) is reallly putting a damper on my self-esteem. I'm attractive, and this is completely destroying my life! it goes on my neck, occasionally on my back and chest! I started washing my face with epsom salt and sea salt, i figured it works when im in the ocean! it hasnt changed a damn thing. If anyone can help/suggest anything please, do so, at this point i'll try anything!
Well, I posted on here at the 7 day mark of my progress with doxycycline that things were going pretty well. Having finished my 30 day cycle, I can say that it certainly worked, though I wasn't convinced at the midway mark; I still had symptoms. I was one of those who had used clobetasol propitionate (steroid cream) around my eyes, which exacerbated the problem altogether and probably messed with the efficacy of the doxy. Anyway, through the nausea (moderate to bad) and continuing symptoms I stuck with it, and when I was done the bumps were all gone and DID NOT come back. Thanks to familyman1975 for his informative posts and answers to my pointed private questions. Good luck to all of you--my browser crashed in the middle of my last post, so hopefully this doesn't end up a duplicate.
To: Ray666: You have been a great source of information so far – can you let us know how you’ve been getting on since your last post?
I just happened to stop by this thread to see if any additional information has been shared and noticed your comments.
That's very interesting about magic cream. As you say, it certainly works well!
With regard to my situation, I basically narrowed it down to an allergic reaction to coffee. I was drinking espresso quite a bit and that seemed to directly correlate to my outbreaks out my eyes. Any time I stopped drinking espresso, then the bumps would go away.
I finally gave up espresso and switched to drinking lattes. It seems that the milk cushions the effect of coffee on my digestive system. If I go over board and drink too much, then I will sometimes still have a slight reaction. However, in those cases, it usually clears right up the next morning. I can basically get away with drinking one double shot latte per night without any major reaction.
So for the last 5 or 6 months (or however long it's been), I have basically been 90% bump free. Every now and then - for example, if I eat a lot of sugar (which I rarely do any more), and/or if I drink too much coffee (or a shot of espresso) - then I will see a few bumps show up. Coincidentally, the worst reaction I had in the last 6 months was just the other day. I am still not sure what causes it, but it didn't last very long (and for this one, I did break out a little of the magic cream and apply it, which really helped). The only thing I can link it to was eating a bunch of cookies and using a different coffee bean than normal. I've switched to using an organic coffee bean from Whole Foods (their breakfast blend) for my lattes and it seems like that particular bean doesn't bother my skin. The other day, I ran out of it and used a different bean that I had in the house and that's the day (or the next day) that my skin broke out.
But basically it seems to be directly related to coffee.
In taking the supplements for "leaky gut", it seems to have helped. I have stopped taking those recently though. I took them for a period of about a month and it seems like it improved how fast my skin healed up if/when I saw any very slight redness around the corner of my eyes.
But again, for the most part, I no longer have any major problems. Just every now and again, if I start eating poorly or drink too much coffee - in that case, then I will see a little redness near my eyes the next day, but it's very minor as compared to the problems I was initially suffering from. And, as mentioned, it heals up super fast now - like over night. In fact, these days, it's almost more like some sort of hive reaction. The few times it has occurred over the last 5 or 6 months, it has been directly after having coffee (or consuming a lot of sweets - such as cookies or chocolate or something), but pretty much goes away over night.
For a while, just as a test, I gave up drinking coffee (for about a week or two) and I had zero problems with red bumps. So at this point, I can pretty much say it's related directly to coffee. The other interesting thing is that - with regard to espresso - I was able to drink one single shot per night and not have any problem. But, the interesting thing was this: if the shot I pulled was poor (meaning it was burn or over extracted), then I would see red bumps. If the shot was very smooth (i.e. a good extraction), then I could normally drink it with no problems.
I sort of suspect that pulling a bad shot, where you over extract the beans, may pull out some of the bad components from the coffee or something. I've also noticed that a lighter roast seems to be something I can tolerate a bit more than a darker roast.
At the end of the day, I think the red bumps are basically an indication that you have put something into your body that your system doesn't like. Or perhaps, in the case of leaky gut, you have ingested something which slips past the walls of your intestines and end up directly in your blood system. I'm no biologist, but that is my thinking with regard to what might be occurring.
It's important to note a couple of things:
First, since your skin is your largest organ, it often times bears the most load when it comes to removing toxic compounds from your system. I have noticed when I eat a very healthy diet, free from processed foods, such as sugars, etc. the skin on my head (I have a shaved head) is super clear. If I start eating junk, then I will see very small bumps. It's directly related to my diet and how close to "natural foods" I am eating.
The other thing to keep in mind is that the skin around your eyes is some of the most sensitive and delicate skin on the entire body. As such, if you are ingesting compounds which your body deems to be bad and/or that it needs to rid itself of, then it follows that this most delicate skin will likely react first and most severely - at least that has been the case with me.
For me, the remedy has been: diet, diet, diet. Eat healthy and drink a lot of water and the problems with the red bumps will go completely away. When I get lazy and start eating cookies or drink coffee without milk (i.e. straight espresso), then occasionally I will see a tiny red bump show up for a small period of time (usually for less than 12 hours). It's nothing like it used to be and I think part of this is not only a better diet but also taking steps to improve my digestive health. Also, I think over time, my body may be recovering from the sudden / drastic change in my eating habits.
Also, at 45, I'm not able to tolerate a poor diet like I was able to do at 20 or 25. It seems your body changes as you get older and after a while, eating healthy food starts to become more important - like it or not :-)
Anyway, to summarize, I really haven't had any major complaints over the last few months. As long as I enjoy a latte with milk, instead of trying to have straight shots of espresso, and eat an overall healthy diet, then I'm okay and no longer have any problems with the skin around my eyes.
I have had these super annoying red bumps that you guys describe for months now. They appeared literally overnight. I assumed that they were just an allergic reaction (as I am allergic to just about everything under the sun) and left them alone, hoping they would go away. I know that Cortisol is dangerous to eyes, so I opted not to put it anywhere near my them. Basically, I just hoped and prayed that they would go away. I haven't put anything on them. They seem to come and go on their own, and I haven't noticed any correlation to my diet. I'm 18 and starting college in the fall, and would really like to go into it with a clear face! The stupid bumps are starting to spread onto the bridge of my nose, and that (apparently) is my breaking point. I'm interested in what my doctor would say, but I expect he would just look at me and prescribe a stupid cream that isn't going to do a thing. I'm hoping to avoid an expensive, unnecessary, and purely frustrating visit to the doctor. Reading on here has been extremely helpful, and I'm thinking of trying the Monistat. Even if it will clear the bumps for a few days, I'll be grateful! Any further information would certainly be helpful! Thank you!
I have hadthese red bumps on my eyes with also some red rash. Also causes the deep wrinkles around eyes. This has been going on for close to 7 years. Steriod cream applied daily was the only thing that kept the bumps at bay. Side effects of steriod cream is thinning of skin around eyes and is simply not healthy
HOWEVER! For the past month I have been drinking Apple Cider Vinegar 2 tp 3 times a day and I noticed the bumps have not come back. I know it has many health benefits and I do not know if it is the cause but it is the only thing I have changed.
I have not been able to skip the steriod cream for more than a day for 7 years and I have used nothing for the past month. I think it is worth a try.
Familyman1975 and I had a lot of success with doxycycline, which is an inflammation suppressor (I think) of the tetracycline family. I was on a 30 day regimen and he was, I believe, on a slightly longer one, but we both were left with no more spots. It might be worth it for some of you, though an informed, professional opinion is always best. My dermatologist wasn't real helpful--he attributed it to rosacea--but having read Familyman's posts, I asked him if doxy was a possibility and he prescribed it without comment. For those of you with spots that are spreading on your face, and no history of dermatitis or rosacea, I would first check with someone before using cortisone, which could exacerbate your problem, or certainly steroid creams, which definitely will.
My infant, who I am breastfeeding, has been getting these little bumps around his eyes. I have two other children with food allergies, so I've been very watchful of this little one to see if he might be reacting to something in my diet. When he was two weeks old, I used Aveeno lotion on him and he broke out in a full body red, bumpy rash. I immediately stopped using it and he hasn't had a recurrence, until this week, I accidentally used the same lotion. He's now 6 months old, and I thought, well, maybe he's outgrown it or it was just a fluke before. Nope. He broke out the very next day. Aveeno contains oatmeal. And then, it occurred to me that I've been eating a lot of oat based cereal this month and he's been getting more red bumps under his eyes. So, I suspect he might be allergic to oats. I'm going to see if they fade and I'll report back.
Thanks to Ray for all of his wonderful insights. When my other children were diagnosed with food allergies, the doctors could offer so little. I informed myself and learned all about leaky gut and gut bacteria and how it is the core of your immune system. As a breastfeeding mother, unfortunately, my own leaky gut is problematic to my children. Since breastmilk is made from blood, the undigested food proteins floating around in my body can end up in my milk and cause a reaction. I myself do not react, but my kids do. Thanks for the reminder to get back on a gut-healing regimen. I do have glutamine, probiotics, and enzymes. I just need to better about taking them.
I've basically tied my reaction directly to coffee. The interesting thing is that, depending on how the coffee is made, it can have an impact on how severe or moderate any reaction is. For example, when I make espresso (and the extraction is good), I rarely see any red bumps. But a few weeks ago, I was modifying my machine and so I had to switch to using the french press. I accidentally ground the coffee too fine and made the mistake of drinking the last gulp in the cup - I could feel the super fine coffee in the last sip of coffee. As I swallowed the last gulp of coffee, and felt the coffee grounds, I thought, "Oh man.. that probably wasn't a good idea..."
Sure enough, the next few days were hell. Worst breakout in months and months. Took about a week to clear up.
I can basically get away with one or two shots of espresso or a latte per day, although it's always walking the tight rope between a mild breakout and tolerance. I do believe a lot has to do with the whole leaky gut stuff, although - perhaps, like you - I'm terrible about taking the supplements to help with that.
As long as my diet is good over all, and I don't push it too much with the coffee, then I can pretty much skate by with no red bumps or just one here or there (and they only last 12 hours or so - it's almost like hives actually).
If I stop drinking coffee completely, then no bumps whatsoever.
I think it basically boils down to some sort of allergic reaction to some protein or something in coffee beans. My theory is that some compound in the coffee gets past my digestive track and into my blood and when that happens, my body reacts with an allergic reaction that seems to emanate from the delicate skin around my eyes.
Interestingly, it also seems to produce red bumps on my thighs. In fact, I think I might have mentioned previously (above) that I had always had these un-sightly red bumps on my thighs - for as long as I could remember (from about the age of 15 or so).
Anyway, since stopping the consumption of sodas and sugar (I now only 20 to 30 grams per day, compared to probably 100 to 150 grams per day previously) and switching to eating organic food (and much more healthy), I have actually seen my thighs completely clear up 100%. If my diet goes down hill, then the red bumps will tend to come back. They are basically just like around my eyes, sort of like hives. They come and go - typically right after eating or drinking coffee.
I should give up coffee completely (I never even drank coffee until the age of about 41 or 42), but man, oh, man... a good latte is hard to pass up :)
But yeah, it's definitely something in coffee and it seems that a lot has to do with how good or bad the coffee I drink is. It also depends a little bit on whether I drink coffee on an empty stomach or if I have had something to eat before hand. If I have coffee after a meal (or like after having a protein shake or something), then I can usually tolerate it pretty well (i.e. no bumps). But if I wake up, drink a couple of shots of espresso straight away in the morning... forget it. A few minutes after having the coffee, I can almost feel the skin around my eyes wanting to break out.
Still using that crazy Magic Cream stuff. Whatever they put into that stuff, it certainly works well as far as healing the skin (as long as you don't over do it). In my experience, you have to be super careful about putting it on your skin right out of the shower. If you do too much of that, it will tend to do more harm than good (i.e. it will tend to burn and turn the skin red). But overall, it seems to help heal (especially in the initial stages of clearing up the bumps). However, after a couple of days, I usually knock off using it and allow my body to heal over night when I sleep.
For the most part, I'm happy to report that I have no further problems with red bumps and I can even enjoy a cup of coffee every day or so now (as long as I don't go crazy and keep an "eye" - no pun intended :-) - on how well I'm tolerating things.
The one thing I can say, after reading some of the replies on this thread, if you are treating red bumps with creams (going on months and years), then you are really only treating the symptoms (a very common - and sad - course of action for most Western Doctors, frankly) and not really finding or addressing the root cause of "why" it's happening.
I would again recommend reading the book "Clean". It's life changing, especially if you exist on a crappy diet, full of junk food and sugar water (as I used to do).
Hello and thanks for commenting so prolifically! So I was wondering in all your extensive research if my situation would make sense to you: I am a VERY healthy eater with no known food allergies. I eat 95% organic foods, NEVER drink soda, and eat mostly complex carbs as far as sugar intake goes. Despite all this I have retined about 20 extra pounds from pregnancy with my daughter almost 3 years ago. I have recently started dieting and have lost about 10 pounds in the last month and a half. BUT about a week into the diet I began to get the small, painless, red/pink bumps under one of my eyes (TERRIBLY discouraging!). Do you think this could be related to calorie restriction? You have been talking about allowing time for the body to detox and I thought that maybe since I have been eating less that maybe my body is going through a sort of detox (I still eat very healthy with lots of herbs, teas, ect) even though I shouldn't have had much of an accummulation to begin with? It just seems odd that the problem has coincided so much with the diet. In addition to the diet, I realized that my contact lenses were getting a bit old... maybe they are harboring some pathogen? So I switched them out yesterday and am awaiting the results. Also, it doesn't help that I am a chemistry student who wears goggles 6 hrs/day! I have been using a steriod cream which clears it up for a bit, but then it comes back after I stop using it (like everyone else on here) and I really want to get to the bottom of this! I read from another user to try Monistat which I will be purchasing as soon as I leave and will await the results from that as well. Anyway, Ray666, let me know what you think about the diet and possible detox reaction. Would yeast somehow be more prolific under detox conditions, do you think it's just a bodily reaction to detox itself (and not yeast at all), or could it be yeast present for some other reason (NOT sugar in the diet! Maybe my body is making too much glucose via gluconeogenesis due to caloric restriction?)? Why is the problem only in ONE eye and not the other? Thanks!
I have similair issue with red itchy eyes and bumps, heavy creases in last few days. I just used the clotrimazole, an anti-fungal cream, thanks for idea. Instant relief!
I suspect it might have more to do with mold, dust - we have had a lot of rain, humidity and windows w/ ac blowing such air. I doubt it's diet so much. Lots of homes have hidden mold, fungus - not even easily seen. Dust can also aggravate eyes. Try a good cleaning, check out mold issue. Sometimes under wall paint, carpets.
I don’t know what took me so long to look this up on the internet. My eyes have been a major problem for years, and none of my doctors provide answers or suggestions.
In 2007, what started suddenly as little red bumps around my eyes soon turned into red, burning “crow’s feet” within one week. My skin was so tender that it was as if it had been lacerated, and I could not touch the area. And, I looked like hell.
My dermatologist told me that it was a fungus similar to athlete’s foot and prescribed TRIAMCINOLONE ACETONIDE Cream 0.1%. The relief was instantaneous, and every sign of the bumps and burning had been obliterated within three days. The doctor had warned me that the cream should not be used long-term. I know that one of the reasons is because it breaks down the elastins in the skin (and none of us wants to age any faster than we already are!). BUT, the other reason is that the effective steroid ingredient not only becomes addictive and ineffective over time, BUT IT CAN ALSO CAUSE GLAUCOMA. People, if you are using steroid creams for relief, STOP.
Over the years, my red eye bumps would flare up, I’d use a bit of the cream, and things seemed OK. But, as many who have contributed to this thread have found, my problem soon became chronic (probably because I have only been treating the symptoms and, as a result, I had become immune and addicted to the cream).
I am in full agreement with Ray666 (and I thank you for your helpfulness) that treatments will not only be useless, but in most cases will be harmful, without targeting the source of each individual’s intolerance. I do not fit Ray’s profile. I have been vegetarian and a careful eater for over 30 years. I don’t eat anything that comes out of a package, and I do almost all of my own food preparation. I have had problem skin since age 11, however, and I do have Rosacea, but this eye problem seems somehow different than simply a skin disorder.
In fact, I’ve been very conscious about what links my behavior and environment could possibly have, and I keep coming up with zero. (I recently took a vacation that transplanted me into four different states and nine different beds over two weeks, and the red bumps never stopped, although they were not as painful as they are at this very moment!)
Because my red eye bumps continued throughout the two-week vacation, I have ruled out: pillows, mattresses, sugar, milk products, and coffee (I only took tea with me), as well as local vegetation and pollens, or molds and other irritants in my own home.
The only thing that I cannot rule out is stress. And, I know that stress weakens the system to allow yeast and bacterial infections to flare up. (To sabel728: your reduced caloric intake could also be causing stress on your system, which makes sense. Although I would not think that caloric intake, alone, would have an effect.)
In the past week, my dermatologist has given me a new aqueous cream (Protopic) which turned my eyes into flaming red boils, and my optometrist has given me eyelid cleaner wipes and liquid tears, which also seem to be causing more redness and burning than before I used them. I’m tired of this. I’m up for a full detox, but I barely weigh 102 pounds and the rings around my eyes are making me look starved and emaciated as it is. (I’m actually pretty healthy, aside from this eye thing.)
Thanks to all of you for your helpful recommendations. I was beginning to think that my doctors simply think I complain too much.
Has ANYONE noticed that this is affecting their vision????
Could be related to your diet, depending on what exactly you are doing. One thing to note is that, when you cut back on eating, it gives your body time to detox (because it doesn't have to spend so much time/energy constantly digesting food). Also, if you cut back on sugars, any yeast in your system can tend to die off (google candida yeast die off). This happens because yeast requires food (i.e. sugar), so when you cut back, any yeast in your system suddenly doesn't have enough food and dies - or at least that is the thinking on the subject.
I felt like I experienced this myself, when I drastically cut my sugar intake (from about 150 grams per day to zero to 5 grams - oh how I miss Reese's Big Cups!!! :-) I'm around 20 to 30 per day now, which I believe is considered "normal".
Anyway, losing weight is not always easy. It basically boils down to cutting back your food intake over a long period of time. You'd be surprised (once you are over weight), how little food it requires to stay at said weight. Shockingly little. In order to cause your body to reverse course (lose weight instead of gain weight or stay the same), you have to almost shock it into the other direction (by seriously cutting back your eating).
In my experience, most people are "full" (i.e. satisfied from their meal) about 90% of the time and hungry only about 10% of the time. The second hunger hits, then they have a meal. This is counter to how humans have evolved. Normally (talking thousands of years ago), food was not on every corner. A great deal of time and energy went into finding food and gathering it (this is why humans naturally have the inclination to feast on food once they start eating). This reaction to food (wanting to eat everything you can) has evolved to hold you over until the next time you are able to find food (which could be days or even weeks away).
These days, however, food is right down the block, next to your desk, in the kitchen, etc. People don't spend days without food - they spend minutes or hours. Not exactly how our bodies are designed to work. We constantly are forcing ourselves to digest food and basically flood our bodies with a constant flow of calories, etc.
In order to lose weight, you need to step back and view eating in terms of how we have evolved to relate to food (having to find it, going without, etc.). I believe this is why your hunger totally vanishes after 2 to 3 days of not eating. When I did a 7 day fast (only water for 3 days and then water and juice for 4 more), I was surprised that my hunger totally disappeared after about 2 and a half or 3 days. I just wasn't hungry. I think it's so you can get back down to focusing on finding food, instead of being consumed with the lack of it.
Anyway, if you want to lose weight, try to spend 90% of the time hungry and 10% full. If you "stay hungry" (instead of full), you'll lose weight. Probably the 20 lbs, plus some. Just do it slowly (over the course of 6 or 12 months). You have to change your approach to food and not be scared to fast here and there (a couple of days, maybe ever month or so). I mean, don't go on a prison hungry strike or anything nutty :)
Give it a year.. you'll be in the best shape of your life. You'll control food, food won't control you.
As far as your new found sensitivity to food... it's hard to say. You just have to see if you notice any patterns. If you fast for 3 or 4 days, you may notice your symptoms clear up. If that's the case, then slowly reintroduce stuff until you see a flare up again. At least you will be able to pin it down. You might also check into that Digestive Gold supplement. It seems to help a little bit (if your problem relates to leaky gut - something which has ties to yeast die off I feel).
Thank you for posting what you did about the Aveeno!! It made me realize my red bumps started around the same time i started using Aveeno (wash and sunscreen) products on my face. I am going to start by stopping the Aveeno and see if it works!
Momomino, I hope that works for you! Please report back and let us know.
I haven't eaten oats since I posted, but the red bumps around my baby's eye have come and gone. I'm not ruling out oats, but I've found that dairy and soy are two big offenders. I ate tofu the first time since he was born and he got a bad body rash (eczema) from it, including more bumps around his eyes and on the bridge of his nose. I've cut out all dairy and soy and it's gotten better, though today, for some reason, he's broken out again. He has very sensitive skin, from what I can tell, and I don't know if contact allergens are part of this (as in, he'll sit on the carpet and touch it, then touch his eyes). I need to be better about setting him down on a blanket and see if that helps.
Sassaby, food allergies can develop at any time and dairy is one of the biggest culprits. You might consider getting food allergy tested to see if that could be part of the problem you're having.
My son is allergic to milk proteins, and I just wanted to add that if you're trying to avoid dairy, you need to avoid it in every form (not just the obvious milk, ice cream, butter, yogurt, cheese...). The milk proteins are mainly CASEIN and WHEY. There are other names for milk (called "hidden dairy"), and you have to read ingredients for them. A small amount cooked in bread might not make you react obviously right away, but bread coupled with deli meats (which use milk proteins as preservatives) could push you over your allergic threshold. Here is a link to a "cheat sheet" of names for dairy to avoid: www.************/store/freehandouts/hidden-dairy01.pdf
I have the same thing. Red, rash-like bumps under my eyes. I try to cover them with a concealer, but it just causes lines.
I've been applying Bacitracin every night before i go to bed, and this has seemed to help, but, if I forget to use it, the bumps are worse.
This has been going on for at least a month now, and since it hasn't stopped, I'm considering a visit to a dermatologist
First a little history: One morning I woke up with rashes on the side of my face near my eye and on both of my biceps. Later, I developed these red bumps around my eyes (Under my eye, on my eyelid, near the corners of my eye). After the rashes appeared, I immediately went to urgent care. The urgent care nurse immediately diagnosed me with "shingles". When the doctor saw me, he ruled out shingles because they only occur on one side of the body. After examining me for several minutes, the doctor said: "Let me go do some research". From previous experience as a computer technician, whenever someone says "let me go do some research" they usually just perform a google search. When the doctor cam back, he had two theories: Pityriasis Rosea, or something else that he wasn't quite sure fit the profile. He prescribed Triamcinolone Acetonide Ointment 0.025% and told me to schedule an appointment with my PCP (Primary care physician). After approximately one week I was finally able to see my primary care physician. At this time I did not get my prescription filled because I wasn't about to use something that someone prescribed on a guess. My primary care physician told me to give the cream a try and get back to him. He was also baffled by the mysterious rashes on my body - they didn't seem to fit any profile whatsoever. After becoming irritated and frustrated with doctors I did what everyone here did: I went online. I tried everything I could think of: changing my sheets, showering before bed, spraying for bugs, you name it. I was convinced that an insect had caused all of this and tore my room apart in the process. Here is where the red bumps appear: After about a week and a half with rashes on my biceps and face, I started getting these small red bumps form around my eye. I went to the doctor again and he sent me to a dermatologist. The dermatologist was more than confident about his diagnosis and told me it was most likely: Erythema Annulare Centrifugum. I have been misdiagnosed several times so my faith in the healthcare system is little to none at this point. I am currently waiting for some blood work to come back in addition the the results of a biopsy to make sure that the diagnosis fits. Luckily I came across this site and became enlightened. I have ordered the "clean" book and started taking notes about what I eat and when. Having tried everything else and reading everyone's comments, I have learned a great deal. Because none of the doctors I have seen know for sure what I have I will be taking Ray666's advice. I fit rays profile because I eat the unhealthiest foods you can imagine. Whole pizzas, 2lb meat burgers, hot dogs, you name it. I will start dieting and living a more healthy life to see if these rashes and bumps go away. I will update everyone about my status later when I find out more.
The problem with most Western doctors (and most of the western medical system), in my opinion, is that they usually don't bother to look for the cause of the problem.
Instead, it's more like a guessing game. "Oh, we think it could be this, let's try this cream". Oh, that cream didn't work? Okay, it must be this.. let's try this other cream. It's sort of like attempting to fix a car by just randomly replacing parts and hoping you eventually hit on whatever the problem is.
Have you ever heard that auto repair joke? The guy's car won't start, so he decides to fix it. He looks and there is no gas coming out of the carburetor; he figures it must be a blocked fuel filter. So he installs a new fuel filter. The car still won't start. So then he thinks maybe the carb is old and dirty. The car is old, so he just buys a whole new carburetor and installs it. Nope, car won't start. Oh wait, maybe it needs a new fuel pump! Yeah, that's must be it. So he decides to install a brand new fuel pump. He buys the best fuel pump the auto parts store has and take it hope. When he goes to install it, he notices there's no gas in the gas tank.
I grew up working on cars, as well as computers. I learned at a very young age, spend most of your time diagnosing and identifying the actually cause of the problem, before you start trying to fix it, and you'll save yourself a lot of time and headaches.
Good doctors are hard to find. So are good mechanics :)
GuineaPig69, here is a test you can do:
Have you considered maybe fasting for a while? If the reaction you are having is from food, then just stop eating for a bit and see if your body heals up. Generally speaking, your body repairs itself rather quickly (usually about 3 to 5 days when it comes to minor skin rashes and reactions).
If you are thinking the reaction is due to foods that you are consuming, then stop eating for a while and give your body a chance to naturally detox and repair itself, without you adding more food into your system, which could be triggering yet the next break out.
If your skin does heal up completely while you are not consuming food, then it's probably a good indication that something in your diet is causing a negative reaction.
Once you get past the initial hunger phase (about 2 days), you'd be surprised how easy it is not to eat for a bit. Still drink plenty of water of course and perhaps some sort of juice or something (organic apple juice is very good - just avoid anything with high grams of sugars). And, if you have access to a juicer, you can make it yourself from organic green apples. You can also strain out chicken soup and drink just the broth.
Anyway, the point is, if you stop eating your normal diet for a week (and basically fast or drink a very small amount of liquid, along with a large amount of water), it will serve two functions: one, it will allow your body to naturally detox itself. And two, it will potentially remove any stuff you are allergic to and give your skin time to heal. This can give you a good gauge on what's going on, since many skin reactions (red bumps, rashes, etc) are similar to hives and will heal on their own in a few days; this window of time will give you a chance to see if it's something that heals up normally, or if in fact there is something going on which won't heal and thus needs some sort of cream, etc.
To just prescribe a cream, without isolating why the problem developed in the first place, is rather remiss if you ask me. It would be sort of like installing a new OS without checking to see if the hard drive is bad first.
As far as diet:
Take it from someone who lived off fast food, burgers, pizza, hot dogs, cokes, candy, ice cream, etc: it's not a diet change, it's a life style change. We aren't just talking about skipping a few trips to Burger King, you've got to become fanatical about it. No smoking, absolutely no alcohol, as close to zero grams of sugar per day as possible. You've got to read over every label of everything you go to stick in your mouth. Check the grams of sugar, check to see if it has that High Fructose Sugar (or Corn Sugar) crap in it. Check to see if it has white flour in it. You gotta get serious about what you eat and realize that your body is a machine. As they say, you are what you eat and you eat what you are.
If you start eating healthy, you'll stop craving the BS foods. I know it sounds crazy, but it's true. When you are in a sugar induced haze, it's very difficult to have perspective from the other side. It seems impossible to imagine craving a salad or something healthy when your body is saturated with sugar and junk food. So you'll have to trust me on this one :-) I'm serious, cut out the crap food and just make an effort to eat healthy for a couple of weeks. You'll start to see what I mean. You'll start to enjoy food, crave healthy.
Get to a place like whole foods. Buy foods that you prepare. Nothing frozen. I used to live off my freezer, now I practically just use it to make ice cubes. Fast and then switch to organic food. Get plenty of sun. We computer guys never get enough vitamin D and always look like walking ghosts :) That's never any help for your skin (i.e. lack of skin color and sunshine). Get some sun, dry out your skin a little bit and help it heal up. The sun has UV rays in it, which are great at killing bad stuff and helping your skin to heal.
Anyway, you get the idea. Read that Clean book. Revamp your diet. Give your digestive system a break for a few days or a week and allow your body to heal. Cut back your diet to just what you'd eat if you were stranded on some jungle island or something. Stuff that grows in the ground or on trees - not crap that rolls off an assembly line and is vacuum packed. Maybe add in a good quality protein shake with some amino acids (mixed with almond milk is what I do). Also Folic acid is very good as a supplement.
That's the way out and back on track. And check Netflix for some of the good movies about food and stuff. When I have a minute, I'll try to round up the great movies to watch and post them in a subsequent post.
No doctor is going to care about your health as much as you do. Educate yourself and most likely you'll be able to get a handle on this.
"Let food be thy medicine and medicine be thy food"
Vanishing of the bees:
There are some more, but I'll have to go through my Netflix queue and locate them. The ones above will get you on the right track though.
Go through your house and throw out everything with HFCS (high fructose corn syrup) on the label. Ketchup is a big offender, but there are much better natural Ketchups out there (check Cost Plus World Market for Melinda's brand) which do not contain HFCS. Most all the sauces at fast food places contain HFCS.
Corn is the USA's biggest crop. That's why we place import taxes on Sugar from other countries and use HFSC instead. But your body doesn't function well by ingesting a bunch of different versions of corn products. Start shopping at Farmer's Markets or Whole Foods.
I'll round up a few of the other movies to watch. There are some good ones out there.
About two months ago I also started getting these small red bumps at the couter corner of my left eye. I haven't gone to a doctor yet but its starting to slowly spread. Its very embarrassing. Is there anything I can do to calm it down for now?
My son had small red bumps around the eyes, which i find comes and goes especially when he plays in the dirt or lie on carpet. I realize every time i use the cocoa butter lotion on his face around that area the rash would go. I hope this can help somebody.
Oh horray for you people. I am sorry everyone has had to go through this, but I am so relieved to see that this is somewhat common.
I've had my bumps for a couple of months now. I'll spare you all my attempts at combating them. I was bummed to see it could be herpes, as I have HV1 (although have never had a cold sore or anything other symptoms). And sad to see that it could be rosacea because I have had that around my mouth before and the MetoGel certainly helped... but it takes a pharmacist to get it and I don't have health insurance right now.
So I'd like to ask thewiseone- did the Monastat clear it up for good and ever and ever? I battled a different sort of yeast infection around the time this thing started but just took super strong probiotics. I'm going to go buy a tube tonight and give it a shot. I'd like to hear how you're doing now though, if you have the time.
Yes, my eyes seems more gooey and my vision a little more blurry. Been thinking I just needed a prescription update on my glasses but when I have a flair up, that is when I notice it more. I am just reading all of this for the first time.
Wow Ray you a a veritable wealth of information and self testing. Thank you.
So another question, yes I have the red bumps, but what I have is more total redness around the eye area. The left side affects the lid and the right eye is the under eye area. I really look like I have been punched in both eyes.
I also notice my symptoms are more pronounced when I have hay fever attacks. I was told several years ago that this was a "hay fever" allergy presentation around my eyes. It is better with products like zyrtec, clariton, etc. but not completely gone. I have been dealing with this for about 5 years and feel like I just found some answers.
Thanks everyone. I am especially anxious for an update on your progress Ray.
I can almost certainly guarantee you that, what you are experiencing is due to basically a plugged/ slugish Liver. Without going into detail after detail, on how your symptoms along with every other post, just Google liver cleansing and your related symptoms. Todays Medical science is not as in tune with Natural or Alternative health which, is the problem.
Almost everything that happens to the skin is a result of the liver trying to cleanse and rid itself of excess toxins.
I'm glad to see Ray666 is still the leading authority on this thread...
I was frequenting his earlier comments about 10 months ago (when I first started noticing symptoms)... and now THEY ARE BACK. Left eye only.
My advice? Listen to Ray666. DO NOT USE CREAMS OR LOTIONS UNTIL YOU HAVE TRIED REDUCING SUGAR / CHANGING YOUR DIET.
It really does matter. Over the summer I was eating healthy, and sure enough they went away. Last night I gave in to cravings and had a sliced apple with honey (might not have been bad on its own), but I also had two pieces of toast loaded with Nutella. Correct if I'm mistaken, but I believe Nutella has a large amount of high fructose corn syrup in it. Sure enough, this morning I woke up and my jaw literally dropped. Huge terrible raised red area just outside of my left eye, complete with more than one clearly visible whitehead.
THIS DOES NOT GO AWAY. Look at the bright side though; we are given a direct incentive to eat healthier, which hopefully will help us in many ways besides just the dots. But, like I said, you need to stay on course or they will come back.
Fasting is also a good idea, never tried it personally. But I can vouch for Ray666, been dealing with this for almost a year now and it *****.
I joined this community especially to comment! I read from the top to the bottom yesterday, digested the information, did my own research last night and then re-read it again today - it's amazing how much you miss the first time so definitely, I recommend reading it a second time.
Let me tell you a bit about my story, I want to share it on here because this thread comes up high on Google when you search and after struggling with it for so long I want to contribute too.
I am 25 years old and I've had these same red sore bumps for the last 5 years, they used to be very sporadic, maybe once a month or so, if that. At the time I was treating them myself with some sort of steroid cream I had left from years ago that I used for my eczema, this cleared the problem and every month or so I'd treat it again. At that time I had no internet access and couldn't really afford a doctor.
Anyway I eventually got a good paying job and could afford the doctor so off I went, I was prescribed more steroid cream! Which has happened with every visit, I have seen about 5 doctors over the years about this issue and they all do the same, tell me to clean my eyes with a cotton ball and Johnson’s baby shampoo then treat with a steroid! Well let me tell you this DOES NOT WORK - as many of you have already discovered.
So for the last 5 years I have been using a steroid cream around my eyes and after reading this I have finally decided NO MORE! I will wean myself off them and cure this even if it kills me!
Now reading Ray's comments, I know this can't be diet related as I have a really healthy diet.
I don't drink anything other than water, never have. No coffee, no tea, no juices, no milk - just water.
I don't eat junk food and order out vary rarely.
I never eat cookies, occasionally I will bake my own. I rarely eat sweets.
So I have a healthy, well balanced diet.
I am not going to play around with my diet and I know a few people here won't so I want to log my progress here using something alternative to Ray.
I believe that this issue with the skin around my eyes has been so prolonged because of the steroids. Because I was only 20 at the time I can't really remember what may have sparked this, HOWEVER at the time, it may have been diet related as I worked at a coffee house, similar to Starbucks I guess and we often did take shots of coffee as like a pick me up, but I've never drunk it like a regular beverage.
So perhaps it was my diet at the time as also I couldn't afford all the healthy food options I can now.
Also I think that perhaps it originally started with something to do with the fact that I wear contact lenses. Either way, how it started is not an issue to me, getting rid of this is my only concern!
These days the issue is ongoing, if I miss one night of steroid creams I break out, so last night was the first night my eyes have been steroid free for quite some time and I just want to say that they're not as bad as I thought they would be!
Last night I treated with Monastat (which we call Miconazole here) it's the exact same product, by the same company I discovered yesterday, after reading that people have successfully treated their problem using this, I will continue to use this for a few weeks and log my findings here.
If this fails to work, I intend to start using a product that contains glycolic acid, which if derived from the sugar plant, as it has an amazing capability of penetrating the skin, which I used to use as a general cream in my mid teen years and had amazing results on my skin, I never used it around my eyes though. Here's some information about glycolic acid I found on the internet "Once applied, glycolic acid reacts with the upper layer of the epidermis, weakening the binding properties of the lipids that hold the dead skin cells together. This allows the stratum corneum to be exfoliated, exposing live skin cells." So basically I will be taking my skin right back and starting from scratch, I intend to use this along with vitamin E oil.
To sum up: Initially I will eliminate weather the root cause is yeast related or not by applying Miconazole. Then I will begin removing all dead skin cells and allowing my skin to heal with the aid of vitamin E.
After 6-7 months with this red eye rash problem, I read a post on one of these sites that seems to be working for me- immune boosters. I take the 'maintenance dose' of the Wellness Formula made by Source Naturals that is available at Whole Foods. It is the only thing that has worked consistently, though at times, I start to get the rash/bumps back. When I see it begin to recur, I apply hydrocortisone cream (off the shelf- 1%) immediately, and between the 2, this is keeping it under control.
When I first got the rash, it was very bad at first and extremely distressing. It ringed my eyes, was red and slightly raised with bumps. My doctor prescribed antibiotic pills & the hydrocortisone cream. It worked while the pills lasted, then came back. She prescribed antibiotic eye drops along with the cream, but this didn't work. Then I went to a dermatologist and he prescribed Desonide which worked till that ran out.
Both doctors said it had nothing to do with shingles which I had about 5 years before with no recurrence. They also said it was not Lupus. They both thought I was allergic to something external- in my house (which I had moved to a few months before), or creams, or something else. I have been using the same soaps, creams, detergents, etc. for years. The dermatologist said if it persists I would have to do a long & complicated work up of allergy tests. I haven't taken him up on it since I came across the immune booster solution.
I started several months ago & tracked the rash cycle on a calendar. The cycle would play out over 4-5 days- get bad, then heal & be fine till it recurred again. After I started taking the immune boosters, it stayed away longer and when it started up again, I applied the hydocort cream and it went away quickly. I was thrilled and after a month of this success, I decided to test it without the boosters, thinking maybe this is some virus that has played itself out.
Unfortunately, it did come back pretty bad. So, I went back on the immune treatment again and I am experiencing the same success as before with it. I hope it lasts.
I would still like to know what it is and why I got it, but I tend to think it may just be an immune problem. I have been very healthy my entire life but getting older (in my 50's), I am experiencing some issues that I hadn't ever before, like shingles, and last year, for the first time I had a fungal rash in my armpits that I had to treat- annoying! That's life I guess.
I hope this is helpful and not prohibitively lengthy.
I've been pretty much problem free over the last few months. In my case, it's definitely related to coffee with some small correlation to sugar also.
If I stick to 1 espresso (or 1 latte) per day, then I usually will not have any red bumps. Now and then I will overdo it a little and that can trigger 1 single red bump to flare up around my left eye. The bump only lasts about 24 to 48 hours and quickly goes away. I usually put a small amount of magic cream to help it heal faster.
If I eat too much sugar or junk food, this can also have an effect - although it's different than the sudden "hive like" reaction with espresso. Coffee really seems to be the main trigger for me. If I don't drink coffee, then I am pretty much 100% problem free.
One thing to keep in mind (and stayingtuned365 sort of touched upon this above also) is that your skin is the largest organ on your body and so when your body is trying to clear itself of toxins (via the liver), the skin often takes a major part of the load. This is why you see people who use drugs always having horrible problems with their skin breaking out (i.e. meth, etc.), because if you flood your body with toxic substances, it will generally manifest itself in the skin. Google Milk Thistle, btw.
Just look at something like Jaundice in babies - their skin turns yellow because their livers are small and cannot clear the toxins (i.e. bilirubin) that result a few days after birth from red blood cells dying off. So what happens? The toxins enter the skin (causing the yellow tint), where sun light (or photo therapy) break down the toxin's double bonds [bilirubin] into a less harmful substance that the baby can rid itself of.
Anyway, the main point is this: when you have sudden skin problems flare up out of the blue, look to what potentially toxic substances are entering your body. Naturally, this is not always the case (as some skin problems can be related to other things). However, if the symptoms have any characteristics of an "allergic reaction" (sudden onset after meals, etc.), then it's definitely worth looking into your diet and what you are eating, etc.
In my case, after several years of monitoring the cause and effect, I think it's pretty clear that my new found love of coffee is the source of the break outs. Taking sugar out of my diet suddenly probably was a factor as well. As mentioned, if I go crazy eating junk food (which is rather rare these days), that can sometimes cause a little trouble. However, nothing will do it like coffee will. With coffee, it's a hive like reaction that happens with 30 to 60 minutes of ingesting coffee usually. With sugar or junk food, it's a more slow reaction, which isn't nearly as severe. With sugar, it's more like a few random bumps here or there. With coffee, it's more like a sudden welt or hive next to the corner of my eye, which comes on very suddenly and strong - looks very swollen and red / irritated and then goes almost totally away over night (or two nights).
Also, in my case, once I do have this hive like reaction to coffee, then for the next few days, I have to be really super careful. It seems like once I go over the edge, then there is sort of a cumulative effect, whereby drinking any more coffee (or having sugar at that point) really starts to aggravate the problems.
One interesting thing is that by having a latte (as opposed to straight espresso), the severity of all this is offset. In fact, by sticking to just lattes (coffee with milk), I basically have no reaction whatsoever. The milk seems to have a stomach coating effect, which seems to mitigate most - if not all - of my allergic reactions to coffee. Mainly, it's when I have straight espresso that I risk having red bumps appear. No espresso, then pretty no problems.
Right now, I do enjoy coffee quite a bit, so for me, it's a balancing act and a small risk that I'm willing to deal with. I know that if I totally gave up coffee, then I would likely never have any problems again. However, at least for now, I still sort of enjoy having a cup of coffee after a meal. Although, the "fun" of having espresso and coffee is sort of wearing thin, so I may just give it up altogether (or make it a very rare thing) sooner rather than later.
One other thing that I have noticed is that by having a protein shake (made with almond milk) in the morning, this also seems to have a stomach coating effect. Eating a meal does also. In fact, by eating a meal or having a protein shake, this is how I get away with having a little coffee. However, if I wake up and have coffee on an empty stomach, you can forget it - I'll have a reaction (and a pretty rapid one) almost every time. Normally I start my day with a glass of water, or pure lemon juice, or a protein shake, since it seems like whatever you ingest on an empty stomach goes straight into your system very rapidly.
Anyway, that's the latest.
Oh, by the way, I wanted to mention also that I'm recently a new father - my girlfriend just gave birth to a beautiful / healthy baby girl a few days ago. She came 2 weeks early and my girlfriend delivered her by herself, in our friend's bathroom (if you can believe it!). Total labor was 45 minutes. It was crazy. She's an amazing woman <3
We did have to spend a few days in the hospital due to jaundice (about 50% or more of babies have it), but my understanding is that that's pretty normal (I had it when I was a baby and so did my girlfriend, so that's probably a contributing factor). After 2 days though, she was fine. But here was the really alarming part - when the nurses were taking blood from our baby or she was crying, etc., they wanted to pacify her by putting sugar water on their fingers and sticking it her mouth - W.T.F??. I refused, naturally, since the only thing going into our baby at this age is my girlfriend's breasts milk. But man.. the addiction starts early in this country; it just speaks to how addicted to sugar the world is has become.
The best thing I have ever done in my life is to cut out sugar and try to mimic a diet that early humans would eat in nature (food from the earth, not food from a factory). Shopping at "Whole in my wallet" makes a big difference also; until you switch to organic foods, you really don't realize what a big impact it has. I just turned 46 and people still guess my age at late 20's - although that's probably due to never smoking or drinking and never doing any drugs. But in the last two years, switching my diet and cutting out junk food has really improved my appearance and my health. I've dropped 30 lbs and feel so clear headed, happy and healthy.
As far as the whole coffee thing, I think I'm going to switch away from espresso a little bit and maybe stick to lattes for a while. The milk seems to help, although I'm not a huge fan of milk. Basically I need to give up coffee, but man, I have so few vices left :-)
For anyone reading this thread and having strange skin reaction problems: look to your diet and what substances are going into your mouth each day. While it may not be the cause of everyone skin problem in the world, I'll put money on it being the cause of most.
In the end, cleaning up your diet never hurts.
Again, read that book "Clean" if you haven't already. Watch some of the videos listed above. Take charge of your health, take charge of your diet and treat your body like a machine, not a land fill.
One thing I have noticed over the last year or so also is this: taking a medium does of Niacin (vitamin B-3) helps with clearing any skin reaction much more rapidly.
I'm talking specifically about the hive like reaction to espresso. It doesn't occur very often, but if I overdo it, then sometimes I will get 1 small red bump on the corner of my eye. However, if I take 1 grams (two 500 mg caps) of Niacin, this has a really amazing effect. I take the "flush" type Niacin, so it causes my body and skin to turn red (and you get a crazy hot sensation for about 20 minutes). The way I do it is to open the time release caps (two of them, for a total of 1 gram) and then dump the Niacin powder into about 12 oz of water. I shake it up and then drink it real fast.
5 to 10 minutes later, I get the flush. Hot, red, feels like sun burn. You can google the benefits of taking Niacin, but it basically dilates your blood vessels. In the process, it seems to help the skin flush out toxins (this is just my hypothesis). All I know is that doing the Niacin has an amazing positive effect on any red bumps from coffee. It practically causes them to go away in 6 to 12 hours in some cases.
Again, the skin is an organ; so I think Niacin bringing so much blood to the surface must help. Similar to how sun exposure helps.
Anyway, it's something to try if you are having skin issues, especially if you tend to be on the lighter skin side.
Also, here's a good link about some of coffee's benefits (and this is part of why I still drink a small mount of coffee each day - about 30 ml to 60 ml per day)
I have a single bright red bump today, near my left eye, and an important gig tonight with my band... So basically about a hundred people will see me on stage with this thing on my face.
I'm 22, and a bit self-conscious, and these bumps cause me to FREAK OUT. Especially when I have to perform! I literally stress out constantly when they are present, constantly looking at myself in the mirror, constantly worrying that I look diseased or something. I eat healthy and exercise, but they keep coming back, almost at random. I have no acne, my skin is incredibly clear, but these KEEP COMING BACK.
I keep telling myself it can't be the coffee I drink, but I think Ray666 might be right. When the first showed up, I was consuming coffee in heavy doses on a daily basis for the first time in my life (particularly rough finals cycle). Last night I sipped coffee while I rehearsed for my show tonight, and I see a direct correlation between the two.
It'll be tough, but I'm giving up coffee. I'll keep this thread informed.
A hefty dose of niacin helps reduce how visible they are (I took 500mg). My face got a little more flushed, and the bumps became more pale pink than bright red. Definitely helped my self-esteem, but I'm not sure if anything biologically useful is taking place.
Anyway, just thought I'd let yall know: niacin can help with the appearance aspect.
My son is 2 he had ezema when he was born then after his skin got better at around 1 then he started to get these bumps around his eyes an his have lessened maybe 3 times out of the whole year but they have came back stronger I was usin hydrocortizone cream but the pediatrition told me no! He told me nothing would work fo this someone told me this was a milk allergy so I've been watchin and giving him lactofree milk then the bumps stopped comin they even when all the way down an stopped being swollen with the white head then suddenly after a week they where back strong omgeeee I don't know what to do anymore... I've noticed that he's starting to get little spots on his neck, under his chin, arms an legs! What is these whitehead things that never goes away!
Thank u guys so much I've just been told by my bf that while he was healing do to the drinkin lactofree milk my bf was giving him regular chocolate milk so I guess it was the milk all along seeing as how he started gettin them when he got off formula a started drinkin regular milk so I hope u guys have luck in findin out what's wrong! Thanks for your post they helped lots! If u would like to see his b4 face then after u can just email me at ***@****
For a bit of context, 5 months ago I had no energy, was bloated with pains in my stomach and intestines and just felt rubbish overall. I started feeling like I didn't want to eat anything, so I stopped. It felt really natural and I didn't eat anything for 5 days until I woke up on day 6 and helped myself to a banana. Since then I craved salads, raw vegetables and fruit and everything else which I had eaten before seemed repulsive and just really not that tasty anymore. I pretty much kept this up until I moved back to university and this is when things went wrong again as I felt pressured into eating what my housemates cooked for me, eating out, and felt awkward about explaining to them my new diet. Up until that point I hadn't really noticed how different my diet had become and I hadn't conciously made any decision to change to a healthy diet my body just craved it. So I started eating bread again, milk and cereal, chocolate, pub meals with chips and fried fish and I noticed my insides were once again really hurting, I was having trouble sleeping, concentrating, focussing and then a couple of weeks ago these RED DOTS started appearing under my eyes. Nothing else had changed apart from my diet and perhaps less sleep than I was getting at home. They also appeared under then eye I had been sleeping on the night before where water had collected. After a night sleeping on my back they are not as bad so I assume the moisture levels around them contributes to their aggressiveness that day. Swimming, showering and rain, they seem to enjoy moisture.
I have always known they were connected to my diet and so will try and change back, mainly because I miss feeling fresh and energetic but I had one question for Ray.
What about the naturally occurring sugars in fruit? In a half hearted effort to try and switch back to my old favourable diet, I bought a big bag of sweet oranges and apples but I feel particularly bloated after either one of these and the spots also seem to react although it could easily be something else, there are so many variables!
Be interesting to hear your opinion and of course anyone else who has noticed the effects of fruit on their red spots!
I have the red bumps around the corner of my left eye. I had shingles a year ago on my left side of my head. Now that the red bumps are here, I've taken valtrex for 3 weeks and I still have them. Not sure but I plan to see dr soon.
Well it's been about 5 weeks since I went cold turkey on the red bumps, and initially, it was bad, I looked like a panda with red eyes! It was very hard for me to go to work.
It started under my eyes, moved out to the sides and right around the top. It lasted about two weeks and then in a matter of two days it went away. Firstly I started applying whatever I had handy, creams etc but then decided to go completely cold turkey, applying only a gentle moisteriser during the day to combat the dryness.
I have to say the less I put on it, the better it got, and faster too, this was advice from my Doctor, who said put NOTHING at ALL on it except take doxycycline which is what I did.
It's been about 3 weeks - early days I suppose but not a single red bump has been back, no pain, no nothing and I haven't felt this way in years. It takes a few weeks from your body to withdraw from the creams that contained steroids that I had been using but after that it's been right as rain.
I'm thrilled. Will let you know if it comes back, otherwise in my instance cold turkey on all creams and doxycycline really worked.
Good luck everyone.
From what I understand, the sugars in fruits aren't as bad, due to the fact that they come with a high amount of fiber combined (or something to that effect). If you watch that video on youtube ("sugar the bitter truth"), I think it touches upon it there.
Also, it's more an issue of refinement (i.e. concentrating the form of the sugar into something highly concentrated vs. the naturally occuring amount of sugar found in fruits, etc).
I believe it's the same with sugar cane vs. proceeded sugar. I seem to remember a study or something which talked about how people had been eating sugar cane for years with no problems, but when the white man moved in and started to produce granulated sugar from it, then people started getting cancer or having problems - or something along those lines. You can probably dig up the information on google with a few searches.
Myself, I don't eat fruits much. I mainly try to include vegetables in my diet. For me, it's more about avoiding the bad stuff (which I have grown up on), as opposed to anything else. I do eat salads a lot more now and have changed my approach to my diet. It does make a big difference and you certainly notice the difference when you go back to eating junk food.
Anyway, just think in terms of natural vs. man made or highly concentrated and refined. When you start getting too far away from what is found in nature and start consuming stuff that rolls out of a factory, that's when you are more likely to run into issues with how your body processes things (including sugar).
There is also a video on youtube about sugar, which talks about the similarities between highly concentrated sugars and highly concentrated drugs (such as cocaine, etc.). The bottom line is that you are making something much, much more powerful than what you would otherwise find in nature. When you give your body this highly concentrated form, naturally it loves it and it can be very addictive in many respects (at least based on my personal experiences with loving and craving sugar).