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Small hard white hair?

I am referring this post

http://www.medhelp.org/posts/Dermatology/White-bulb-in-hair-follicle/show/768252

because the two comments after the doctors reply perfectly describe something my girlfriend has had. It's was small, hard, and clear white. It was a lot like a finger nail material. I found it on her scalp while running my hands through her hair. I was very firm and pokey. It looked like a short white hair but I pulled it with tweezers for her and the base was much larger in width and length than a "hair". It was definitely NOT a follicle. Any info is appreciated.



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I have these growing on my shoulder blades, my back, my hip, my thigh, and once in my belly. I never got two at the same time but every time I check there's always one growing somewhere in my body. They sometimes appear in the same spot but after a while they stop growing on the same follicle and relocate somewhere else. I have them taped so I could compare them with others who experienced the same thing in online forums.

I ruled out all the possible suggestions in the comments. Not Vellus, not Keratin horn or keratosis pilaris, not Piedra, and not vellus hair. It's really a mystery to me at this point. It's really just a weird thick bristle-like thingy that is too hard and thick for a hair strand that sometimes is white or black with a white base that is NOT ITCHY, I just find them when I run my hand on my skin and I feel something sharp like a soft splinter or a hair-like hard Whitehead that is easily plucked out by a tweezer or even your nails if they're long enough. It's oddly satisfying to pluck them but the one that I found on my belly once caused the follicle to bleed and it never grew there again.

Are there no answers for this yet?
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I had the exact same thing on my scalp. I went to the dermatologist. She said it was a tiny cutaneous horn, she cut it out, sent it to the lab for a biopsy, and said it could be squamous cell carcinoma, or it could be a wart underneath. It's the under part of the horn that can be cancerous. Mine turned out to be benign, just a wart underneath, but I would advise you to see your dr and get a biopsy done. You just never know. Better safe than sorry. I've never had one before this. So strange.
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Morgollons  is a diagnosis for lazy dermatologists. Anytime you’ve got a legitimate, recurring issue, that is being ignored it should tick you off. I’ve had this same response and the doctor told me I was scratching at my skin and causing it myself. She also told me I probably had too much anxiety and that I should really see a psychiatrist. I had two different biopsy procedures by this woman and she biopsied right on the edge of the site both time. She didn’t find anything. I’m not one to think, “well maybe I do have some psychological issue and I’m imagining things.” Doctor’s are human and they can subject you to the same ****** assumptions and discrimination as anyone else. They can assume it’s drugs with no proof. They can assume because they don’t know what it is that you must be imagining it. The symptoms that are listed for Morgollon’s are exactly what I was having. I kept on seeing specialists until, ‘lo and behold, I found one who thought to run the correct blood tests and biopsy the spots correctly. I have Lupus. The Morgollon’s description are textbook Lupus symptoms. Lupus has flares so if you’re tested at certain times you might get normal results. If you are tested again when all those Morgollon’s symptoms are active you’ll have a better chance at a diagnosis. Every person here who looked that disease up and thought they have it, you’ve probably got Lupus. Go to the rheumatologist or a dermatologist who specializes in autoimmune diseases. And go to the Lupus foundation website and read up. It’s not a well understood disease but there are treatments for it.
If you’re only getting one of these spiky spots and it’s always on your scalp it’s probably just a clogged pore. Sometimes they stretch the follicle out so that it constantly gets clogged. Change your shampoo and conditioner to one with less keratin in it. If you only get them in your scalp but there are multiple get yourself some antifungal topical cream and slather it on your scalp before bed for a few nights and cover your head with a shower cap.
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Question for all of whom have experienced any of the above mentioned symptoms:
Do any of you have any sort of known diseases affecting the immune system? Autoimmune diseases of any sort? If so, please list. This is research for my own little study/curious possible theory. I’m very interested to see if my current theory of the two being related is true, as I have experienced the same, leading to a self diagnosis of Morgellon’s. I’ve been officially diagnosed with CIDP (Chronic Inflammatory Demyelinating Polyneuropathy) and am interested in finding out if they’re related or if I’m really just THAT lucky to have so many co-occurring, unrelated mysterious diseases.
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Just researched a bit, and think I may have found the answer for some...at least those of us that have the little white, thick hairs. Check out this link: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vellus_hair
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Same thing happened to me, but from experience, I recommend you don't pluck them out; consult your dermatologist first!
I had gotten this strange white hair twice and decided to pluck it out. It later turned into a nasty pus-filled pimple, but the pimple disappeared and it was back to normal. A couple of weeks later, I got a cyst growing in the spot where I had plucked the hair, so I ended up having to get surgery :(
Thankfully the cyst wasn't cancerous but it was definitely bothersome. I'm not sure if any of you will end up getting a cyst too, but I don't want y'all to go through something like that, it's very annoying so I thought sharing my story will make you guys consult your dermatologist first. I wish you all the best and hope that we can get an answer to whatever the heck this "white hair" is!


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Ive had the same type thing  as described above for as long as I can remember but on the back of my upper ear lobes. I also have white/clear sand like or grain of salt like granules on my inner upper arms and forehead every couple months. Ive done some research on Morgellons but dont know if its related. I also sometimes have very fast growing clear like hairs that show up out on nowhere...almost overnight on my forehead or the back of my neck. I dont know if all these things are related but I have always felt that they were. I happen to stumble on a video today of a woman with Morgellons with sent me down a rabbit hole of other videos and websites where people have all the same things I listed above. All these things I experience plus many more I have not listed point to Morgellons. I have no intention of going to a doctor for it unless one of my other symptoms become too much to handle.
I have the same thing bone like material or finger nail like bones all over my scalp I can pull them straight out help if you know what this is I have mrsa on my scalp is that why this is coming from my scalp
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Did you ever find out what the problem is>? I know what I have been through and believe I know what this is called;
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exactly same thing on my upper arm.
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exactly same thing on my upper arm.
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Also, the above comment, a Vellus hair is not what this is.
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Hello, I had the same thing happen to me a month or so ago..

It is currently regrowing in a similar spot. I dismantled the first "hair" to see how it broke up.

I took a series of pictures with a marco lense if you would like to see it. I am not too sure how I can post the pictures though?

It broke down and looked like cotton or a strand of clingfilm. I can share the pictures somehow. Any advise?
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Vellus hair is what it is called
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Morgellon's is misinformation.

Aliens and conspiracies could give a **** about our hair and skin.
Have some common sense.

How can you make dollars without cents?
Don't waste your time.
Follow the buck--it's tricky but we know one thing... it always ends in a pocket.
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Hey all fellow troopers..
As we suffer down here, for as long as we know...

I've developed my own hypothesis that I feel is a pretty good explanation to all of the complaints, especially these days, and here's a small part of it..

From the comment by ThinklerBelle and her relation to the marine industry, I think it would be worth it if you guys checked out:

Methylchloroisothiazolinone
Methylisothiazolinone
Sodium Lauryl/Laureth Sulfate
Kathon CG (MSDS)

These chemicals are present in some variation in nearly EVERY commercially available shampoo, soap, conditioner, etc. etc..
A quick glance at the wikipedia pages tells you the relation to the marine industry...
If you're too lazy, it's also used for: "glue production, detergents, paints [in particular on the hulls of boats.. why, you may ask? because silicons are waterproof!], fuels, and other industrial processes"

We use silicons in every day life in products such as caulk, pipe sealant, Rain-X, and in general to waterproof things.

Kathon CG claims to become unstable in the presence of excess sulfurs according to the MSDS [sodium lauryl/laureth sulfate, sound familiar? found in tandem with KCG in nearly every product], as well in temperatures in excess of 50° C (122° F). The average hot water heater puts water out at roughly 120° F, for a shower of 100-105° F.

Through a study the strength of materials, I believe a similar effect to Euler's stress-strain curve would result -- i.e. a silicon compound would be brought nearly to the failure limit repeatedly over an extended period of time (temperature), and as a result, would be of a much GREATER strength than as originally manufactured, leading to massive amounts of un(?)known effects on the human body as it is already considered a biocide and a cytotoxin.

As a final, ironic **** you--any zinc pyrithione (main ingredient in dandruff and many hair loss solutions) also interferes with KCG's stability.

In summation, I think the problems of all the weird, hardened, semi hard, multicolored--but always the SAME types by person structurally speaking--growths and/or protrusions of the follicle or skin are some form of buildup of these silicon compounds we are tricked into rubbing into our entire body every day.

I found a book, at a thrift store titled "Wife and Mother: Or, Information for Every Woman" .. anyway, I'm a male but the book was in its 55th edition in 1888 and while written by a man, has an introduction written by a woman in 1888, so the gender becomes irrelevant. Worth a read, if anything, just the introduction.

TIP OF THE ICEBERG

"Through every dark night, there's a bright day after that. So no matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it."

Best of luck and Godspeed.
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I think you should check out www.carnicom.com you have morgellons disease. If you have any questions just send mean note
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That is one of the specks that comes from morgellons disease. A lot of people have it. Not everyone has the lesions and itching.
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Yes this is definitely one of the symptoms of morgellons disease. Do they itch as well? Check out www.carnicom.com and the walter c. Holmen fund at osu
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I have this white down like feather growing out of my back, my husband plucked it out with the tweezers. It feels and looks just like down feathers. Every time I pluck it out to the root, it grows back. It is always in the exact spot. Does anyone know what this could be or know someone who has this same thing.
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Wanted to say to dr.'s who have commented: question what you've been taught in school and Listen to patients fully before commenting or making diagnosis!!!
I have been mistreated and unheard by many a physician since I started having this skin issue, of which was over a year ago. I just found the Morgellons disease research site the most HELPFUL! I am being affected by this all over my body and due to this psychologically now because of negligence of the medical community belief system and I am a long time nurse. As there is no money seen to be made by drug companies there has been most likely poor research into this disease process, therefore no more education for those in the dire need for it. Bummer! cuz bet there is a lot of money to be made as I am finding it chronic...! I dont have a phsyciatric illness. I am very observant due to my nurse training and trust my skills and knowledge base. I would recommend the morgellons-research site note the cdc etc...
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I have something similar but it was under the skin. I was pulling some hairs on my leg due to stress. Then I felt there was something more there so I went in with tweezers under a membrane of the wound. (I kept pulling and pucking the same place making a wound). So under the membrane was a hars hard thing that looked like white rice. It hurt like heck removing it. I did it again in the same wound and got another one out. They left two deep holes. I've left them alone and they healed but there is a bump that may be filled with scar tissue.
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Im not sure if what I have emerging from my skin is the same ,but it does consist of clear thick hair,but in my case I have all these lines under my skin (and there not wrinkles ) and when I run tweezers along them those hairs emerge,plus I also have thinner wiry ones as well. It doesn't matter how many I tweeze,wax or pull out they instanly come back...Does this sound familiar to anyone?
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for anyone that has those hard white hairs growing out, I've got the same thing.  They don't hurt, but they irritate me when I brush against them with my hands, so I tweeze them.  Here's all that they are - it's just a bit a keratin growing around a hair, that has trapped it.  They're not dangerous, and you'll likely grow out of them; mine have reduced in time (thought I've over 40 and still get some):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keratosis_pilaris
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Yes Young Person,
  I have had a similar thing happen to me over the past 50 years.
  ( several times as a matter of Fact  ..  .. )
  Just Curious Here  ..  ..  What did it finally end up Costing to Find Nothing?  ..  ..  ( I am sure that if you had insurance you still should have gotten a copy of what the Total Money spent amounted to? )
  I thank You very Much for your input. I am trying to make an impression on a few in our Group.  ..  ..  jmg
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well i one before, but out of curiosity i left it alone for three months for observation purposes.and as it grow i notice that the width is getting larger and larger until it grow about 8cm that i have enough and decided to pull it out.and another 4cm underneath the skin. Then i took it to the lab myself and i find out that it had some. on the tip it have the one you find on the nail cell. and as i go lower to composition change to some bone structure of the ear. and i was like what is going on with me? im not an expert but when i do research on what i found out. i just wanted to past out because im growing some horns.
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