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diabetes and marijuana

by TymanO5, Jul 07, 2005 12:00AM
Ok ive had diabetes for 5 years this coming week and i am 15 years old. Diabetes has deffinently changed the way that i go out with friends and i relieze that i cant do all the things that they do to have fun, like drink alcohol. I know that alcohol and diabetes doesnt mix but im curious to know if marijuana has any other side effects on a person with diabetes or if it is still the same as a non diabetic. I have never smoked marijuana before but i might be in a situation next week where people will have some. I wanna know that if anything does happen and i do take some that im not risking myself to an extreme high or low blood suger.

Thanks,
Tyler

by JDRF-Team-ES, Jul 07, 2005 12:00AM
I may be an old lady with diabetes (53) but I also know what it is like to be a teenager with diabetes and have to figure out how to be with my friends and take care of myself too. I was 13 when I was diagnosed.

First of all, I am really proud of you for even asking and for trying to figure out how to live your life the way you want to and take care of your diabetes, too.  it's not always an easy balance.  The fact that you are asking the questions means that you are a responsible kid and that means a lot.

The big problem with marijuana is, that like alcohol, it loosens up your inhibitions and your judgement, so it's hard to keep track of all the things you need to keep track of when you have diabetes if you are high.  Marijuana also tends to make people hungry and they want to eat junk. If your judgement isn't so great, it's easy to say "what's one litle binge" and that can really be a set-up for trouble with high blood sugars or even low ones if you are not paying attention.  Someetimes, marijuana can also be mixed with other drugs and that can be really dangerous since you don't know how you will react unitl it's too late. Truthfully, we don't really know much about how marijuana affects your brain, with or without diabetes.  We do know that it is a mind altering drug and that is something that should make you think twice before using it, particularly because we all need all the brain cells we can get to deal with this high maintenance disease we have.

I guess my other concern for you is that you are still only 15 and with or without diabetes, that is a little young to messing around with drugs.  Not only is your brain not fully developed, but you may not have enough life experience to know how to handle certain situations you might find yourself in when using drugs or alcohol.  I would say, if your feel you must try it, to at least wait a few years until you have a better sense of yourself, and a little more maturity.

If you do decide to try marijuana, make sure you are with people you trust, who know you have diabetes and who know what to do in case you should get into any kind of trouble.  This is really the same advice I give to my teenage daughter, even though she does not have diabetes.  I would also encourage you to find friends who are OK with you being with them even if you don't smoke or drink and they do.  You can still have as much fun as long as you are with people who like you and don't care what you do or don't do.  Once you learn to drive, you can always offer to be the designated driver which your friends will really appreciate.  You can always use the excuse that you have diabetes and can't participate, but you'll be happy to make sure they are OK.

I know it's tough to say no, and to not be doing what you think everyone else is doing. That is really the most important thing that all of us have to learn in life...to figure out what is best for us regardless of what everyone else thinks we should be doing.  There are plenty of kids out there who are not doing any drugs and alcohol, there are plenty of kids who drink in moderation and there are plenty of kids who drink and do drugs until they don't know who and where they are.  Life is full of choices and you already have lots of experience in making healthy choices for yourself and I know you can deal with these choices too.

Lots of luck to you.  Please stay safe and I wish you a long and healthy life ahead.
ES
Member Comments (35)

by Mr_Gatorade, Jul 09, 2005 12:00AM
Marijuana will not affect your blood sugar level.  However, when you alter your consciousness, it might make it easier to forget to check your blood, forget and leave some item behind, etc.   Therefore, you should wait until you are 18 first.
Drinking alcohol does not affect your blood sugar UNLESS your drink contains something sugary like fruit juice or soda.   Drinking alcohol without sugary ingredients will put a hold on your blood sugar level.  Therefore I never drink alcholic beverages if my blood sugar level is above 120 mg/dL or below 80 mg/dL.

by JDRF-Team-LRS, Jul 10, 2005 12:00AM
By now, you've probably attended that party and made your choice as to whether to use marijuana, alcohol and other things.  It's a tough time to be growing up thru teen years; there is so much casual drug & alcohol use, it's easy for young people to think it's both normal & okay.

Marijuana, by itself, will not affect your blood sugar.  As a mind-altering substance, however (as Mr. Gatorade points out), it can make folks more susceptible to give in to temptations & to succumb to the powers of suggestion.  Many folks "get the munchies" (at least that's what we called it in my college days) and think they're hungry for everything and anything in sight.  For a diabetic, this can be very serious.  

The double-whammy for using drugs & alcohol in a teen setting where typically a goal is to "get wasted" is that there'll be no one around who will care or will be capable to help you if your BG crashes or gets so high you can't function well.

Alcohol without sugary mixers can cause severe lows, and because the liver is busy cleaning the toxin (alcohol) out of the system, it DOES NOT work well to release glycogen as it normally does.  This can make a low extemely dangerous.

It's unfortunate that so many teens feel pressure to fit in by drinking or using drugs.  You sound like a sensible young person and I hope you gradually migrate to the great circles of folks who do healthier things and still have a great time, laugh a lot and are not frightened to "get caught" by what they're doing.  Good luck.

by Windbreaker, Jul 11, 2005 12:00AM
One reason not to do it--it is against the law.

by TymanO5, Jul 20, 2005 12:00AM
well sorry for reposting so late but i didnt do any drugs this weekend. i was just posting to find out if marijuana effected a diabetic differantly then some1 else more because i was curious. i have never taken drugs or drank alcohol. i manage my diabetes well with excersize and through my insulin pump. i dont plan to do any drugs or drink alcohol in the neer future so you guys dont have to fret for me. my mom is an EMT and i have seen the effects that lots of alcohol can do to a person but ive never heard of what marijuana +does to one. thanks for the info guys it helped ;-)

by lflisp586, Jul 25, 2005 12:00AM
i'm a college student, and i was diagnosed w/ type 1 when i was 14.  i was randomly surfing the web on the topic, and i figured i should share my experience.  i've found that when i drink alcohol, about 5 hours or so afterwards my sugar drops really low, like around 40 depending on how much i've had, so i HIGHLY recommend carrying something sugary around w/ you if you drink.  as for smoking marijuana, i'm still not sure if there's a pattern, but you do tend to get hungry and eat when you're high.  so, if you decide to do that, just remember to take care of yourself and always carry around like a juice box or coke or something, cuz it can hit you really quickly.  the worst part is that when you are in an "altered state", you tend not to be so aware of your sugar levels changing, so you need to be prepared before you go out.  of course, don't do anything illegal ;-)

by TymanO5, Jul 29, 2005 12:00AM
lol yea i always do carry arond 2 juices and a snack just in case.....also my shot if my pump doesnt work and a bunch of life savers lol so dont worry, im controlled

by kebranegast, Aug 13, 2005 12:00AM
greetings in the name of the MOST HIGH, i am a 29 year old black male and i've been smoking marijuana for 10 years now. when i was 27, i was on a 1 year probation( driving on a suspended license). I refrained from smoking marijuana for 6 months then i found myself urinating frequently at night, like every 20 minutes or so through out the night. my mother took me to the hospital (upon my refusal) there i was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes ( my mom has it also). I spent a week in the hospital and was told that i would have to take insulin. well being on probation i couldn't smoke (that changed because i violated probation). one month after being diagnosed, I started smoking marijuana again and never took insulin. for the past 2 years (from 27-29) i never took one shot of insulin. I just smoke herbs twice a day. in my honest opinion, marijuana is a great cure for taking insulin. I don't get the munchies, don't feel tired or get the giggles or any of that stereotypical stuff that goes along with marijuana. I feel alot of people would say smoking herbs is bad because if they told the people the truth then there would be no need for "America's Drugs and Cure's". My point is, if you have diabetes (as well as other sicknesses) marijuana is the cure. Everyone with diabetes knows what can happen if you don't take insulin. for 2 years after being diagnosed, i'm as fine as ever. The only thing i have to work on now is excercising and loseing weight(i'm like 160 pounds over weight) i don't attribute that to herbs either, i've been big from the age 11. but that's another topic.....my brothers and sisters with diabetes....marijuana is the cure......
.................peace and blessings to all in the name of our lord and saviour....YESUS KRISTOS.....one love to all

by jdrf team dm, Aug 13, 2005 12:00AM
Hello everyone,

While kebranegast is certainly entitled to his opinion, as one of the moderators in this forum with many years of experience with type 1 diabetes, I am compelled to jump in and tell anyone who may take his post to heart that type 1 diabetes can in no way be cured by marijuanna. It is a medical fact that with type 1 the beta cells are destroyed in the pancreas and require insulin to sustain your lives. Marijuanna can't cure it.

While I know that all of our posters and readers already know this, I would hate anyone to think that this is a possible solution. Without insulin, people with type 1 diabetes cannot survive.

JDRF is committed to finding a true cure, but this is not it.

Sincerely,

dm

by kebranegast, Aug 14, 2005 12:00AM
greetings in the name of THE MOST HIGH, well even though my last statement is my opinion, i am living proof that marijuana does help people with diabetes. As i've stated before, everyone with type 1 diabetes knows what would happen if you don't take your insulin. I've been diagnosed with diabetes at the age of 27, as a-matter-a-fact, when i went into the hospital(again, upon my refusal) the doctors told me that i could've died. They even told me that i would have to take insulin. Not taking insulin could result in my death. Again i have NOT taken insulin in the last 2 years, all i do is smoke marijuana, maybe this does not work for EVERYONE with type 1 diabetes but it sure does work for ME. If it didn't, I would be or should be dead by now, I'M ALIVE and WELL. No insulin just marijuana. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT SMOKING MARIJUANA DOES WORK. It's safe to say that either marijuana is working for me or the doctors lied to me by saying that i do have type 1 diabetes and gave me an 80 thiusand dollar hospital bill. Marijuana is also not addictive because when i was on probation (driving on a suspended license) I never felt the urge to smoke marijuana and it's also NOT a gateway drug. I dont smoke or ever have the intentions of smoking cigaretts or doing any drugs whatsoever....all i do is smoke marijuana 2 or 3 blunts a day. so once again, smoking marijuana DOES WORK FOR ME IN PLACE OF INSULIN....TO EACH HIS/HER OWN.... PEACE and LOVE in the name of our LORD and SAVIOUR.....YESUS KRISTOS

by kebranegast, Aug 15, 2005 12:00AM
Greetings in the name of THE MOST HIGH. I just wanted to add to this message board that in no way do i condone teenagers smoking marijuana(or anything for that matter). In the case of teenagers, i recommend the insulin. This is not to say that there is something wrong with marijuana, I just think it sould be used by ADULTS 18+........PEACE and LOVE in the name of our LORD and SAVIOUR........ YESUS KRISTOS

by beautiful birdy beee, Aug 26, 2005 12:00AM
honestly i think that nobody should smoke marijuana like people do cigarrettes. Yeah theres nothing wrong with trying it. Everyone should experience. I know that i did it because i thought it was cool but then i got in trouble for it and its not really that cool. If you have diabetes or something else dont try it, its not worth taking your life or coming close to taking your life. Its not worth it............

by Peachy§Kim, Sep 02, 2005 12:00AM
I used to live in both South Australia and Amsterdam - two locations where cannaboids both decriminalised and overly analysed.  Thus, as a Type 1 diabetic I have come across quite a number of diabetics who have mostly consumed cannaboids such as hash and ganja with their meals or with their drinks as healthy alternative to smoking.  Although I cannot speak for the effects of the plant in regard to Type 2 diabetics (the internet has a substantial amount of info), as a Type 1 diabetic I have on the odd occaision been prone to hypoglycemia after fainting from low blood pressure connected to having too much THC in my tea.  After consulting with my doctor he reckons that on the odd occasions where I have fainted (5 times in the last 2 years) I have in comination 1) consumed too much THC in my drink whilst; 2) already being fatigued and 3) because of being quite tall am already susceptible to low blood pressure.  His loose recommendations are that the next time I know I will be allotted the night shift I should not consume as much cannabis or at least if I plan on getting really high I should  increase my carbs to insulin ratio for the nearest meal that I will be consuming THC.

cheers!

by imstillnormal23, Sep 19, 2005 12:00AM
hello i am  diabetic. I have been a diabetic for 13 years and going strong. My mother also has it too. I am a type one diabetic. I believe that medical marijuana should be legal. I have been smoking marijuana since i was 14 i am now 20 i have had no problems and i mean none. i am currently in college as a soph. The only time i have been in the hospital for my diabetes was when i was diagnosed with it. I have a minimed 508 insulin pump and had only one problem with it. but that was due to scateboarding. The way i see it is it is all up to you. The ball is in your court, you have to take responsibility for yourself and your own actions. As long as you know what you need to do and you do it you will be just fine. Its all hog wash that you don't have control of yourself. You always have control your world is just kinda hazy or fog. You can still be very responsible you just have to be strong have self-control and know what you need to do. I wouldn't do it if you are a new diabetic. See the key is knowing your body like what a low feels like and a high blood sugar. So new diabetics this is not for you. But if you choose to try it or smoke it be careful it is harmless but you have to be resposible.
                      
                                 "THE BALL IS IN YOUR COURT"


by stephen99, Sep 30, 2005 12:00AM
hey there i am a diabetic...33yrs... i smoked pot and the only problem i really had was the munchies from it. it never made my BS high or low. It just made me hungry..I dont smoke anymore, but if you do smoke maybe you just eat something healthy. celery and carrots worked ok for me....even though your stoned you still think about your diabetes...i  know i did.

by serendipitous, Oct 01, 2005 12:00AM
I've been a juvenile diabetic for 43 years.   I'm in good health except for neuropathic pain in my feet and hands.  No solution so far.   I've smoked marijuana off and on for at least 40 years.   My experience is that it DOES lower the blood sugar - the reason, I think, that so many smokers get the munchies.  I learned a long time ago to test my blood before smoking and to  be AWARE of where it sat and be ready with some carbohydrate handy.    I think it's a beneficial drug in general though I wouldn't recommend it to anybody who hasn't yet got a life.

by serendipitous, Oct 01, 2005 12:00AM
I've been a juvenile diabetic for 43 years.   I'm in good health except for neuropathic pain in my feet and hands.  No solution so far.   I've smoked marijuana off and on for at least 40 years.   My experience is that it DOES lower the blood sugar - the reason, I think, that so many smokers get the munchies.  I learned a long time ago to test my blood before smoking and to  be AWARE of where it sat and be ready with some carbohydrate handy.    I think it's a beneficial drug in general though I wouldn't recommend it to anybody who hasn't yet got a life.

by wauzi, May 25, 2008 07:45AM
Once again, such a wide varaiety of answers.  How is one to get a handle on the truth about diabetes causes or treatment?

by rcg6681, May 29, 2008 01:12PM
BACK to the original question - does marijuana affect type 1 diabetes?

no.

I've been type 1 diabetic for 9 years and between alcohol and marijuana, I will ALWAYS choose marijuana since alcohol lowers my blood sugar and sometimes leads to me having seizures.

Smoking pot will not have any affect over your blood glucose levels, but as everyone else said, it will give you the "munchies" - and you are less likely to count your carbs and watch what you're putting in your body when you're in this state.  That's pretty much the only danger - oh, that and the fact that it's against the law, blah blah, wah wahh.

And whoever said that alcohol doesn't affect your blood sugar if there's no juice or sugary drink in there???  You're an idiot who obviously doesn't have tight control, because that is never EVER the case... even in "normal" people - alcohol LOWERS your blood sugar (longterm like 8-12hrs later) and when you have a lot of it it can lead to seizures!

by TymanO5, Jul 01, 2008 10:41AM
Wow, I posted my original comment back on Jul 07, 2005. Thats almost 3 years ago now. I can't believe the amount of responses from it as well so thanks to all that gave their oppinion.

by Lulu383, Jul 01, 2008 02:03PM
To: Tyler
Just wondering - whatever happened? What kind of choices did you make? Now that you're 18 do you look back on them as good or bad decisions?

by jock_that_doesnt_play_sports, Jul 02, 2008 08:32PM
I just want to throw this out there for who ever is reading, i read many post's above and, I CAN NOT believe there is even ONE type 1 diabetic is out there who doesn't take needles, how are insulin cells getting replenished into your body each day...?....you have lasted 2 years, but think about the long run.
to all the occasional pot smokers among me, may your blunts be rolled and your eyes stay red.

by Shakeygirl19, Jul 18, 2008 01:58AM
To: anyone
i can feel my blood sugars dropping they give me a buzz

by Shakeygirl19, Jul 18, 2008 02:04AM
but when stoned its not so good so id allways rather take some precautions and eat some sugar. .

by steve_type1, Aug 17, 2008 12:38PM
To: everyone
i can't believe that  kebranegast thinks he has the answer.  EVERYBODY'S DIABETIC CONDITION IS UNIQUE, NEVER EVER EVER TELL SOMEBODY ELSE HOW TO HANDLE THEIR SYNDROME BECAUSE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU WILL NOT WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE.  That was really stupid advice to give, smoking dope instead of taking insulin.  See why it's called dope?

by steve_type1, Aug 17, 2008 12:42PM
To: jock that doesn't play sports
...what?  insulin cells being replenished?  taking needles?  you're a moron

by phoenix88, Nov 02, 2008 10:39PM
Also depending on the strain of marijuana it can have different effects on the body. Marijuana is an exciter on the body, it can make the heart pump more, and dilates small tiny blood vessels (eyes, kidneys, brain and feet) People with diabetic neuropathy can benefit greatly by marijuana, and prevent future problems regarding neuropathy.
Marijuana, since its an exciter can lower blood sugar levels. It causes the adrenals to become stimulated and because of that can cause low blood sugar levels if one isn't aware.
Remember that has soon as the body enters a 3.6 blood sugar then it starts to prepare the liver for the release of glucagon, if it doesn't get sugar from external source. Thats the bodies natural survival mechanism.

by greenjello, Jan 30, 2009 09:37AM
To: to the person how can help me
I have type 1 diabetes for 15 yerrs and smoke marajuana  over 4 years and Im going blind its hard and I thank that it helps my eyes and a bad heart I dont get high just the fun of it becuse it helps the eyes and i dont smoke i thank i will be bland by know or dead of a haert attack or stroke can naraiuana help me to live longer .

by elidabetez, Feb 19, 2009 12:32AM
to me man you sound like you got it under control
you carry juices around with you i read
not many diabetics do that
and what your doin is good
ive had diabetes for 13-14 years
got a a1c of 7.4 doin pretty good
drinking is a bad idea for diabetics
it involves alot of uneeded carbs and sugars and lot of uneeded unulin usage
and when your drunk its much harder to control yourself when your high
yah you get muchies when you high
try to eat stuf with protein eat a sandwhich r something and bolus/give a few units for the
bread
and if you happen to stuble apon some sweets make sure your give a little insulin BEFORE and then cover for the rest the junk you ate when your done
(but try not to eat to much!)
well thats all i got to say peace
you eat th

by MoKelly, Mar 31, 2009 03:10PM
To: The affects of marijuana
In the early 70's I attended a college lecture about the physical affects of marijuana. I have no references to site, just an old memory.   It was an introductory psychology course so the information was not real technical.  The professor stated that the munchies are a feeling that anyone gets when their blood sugar gets low.  Marijuana triggered the secretion of  insulin which reduced blood sugar and caused the munchies.  ( I believe that this is where the urban legend about marijuana helping diabetics originated.) The professor further explained that burning marijuana produced a substance similar to synapse.  We had previously learned that  synapse is a substance that conducts the electrical charges between nerve cells.  More conductivity caused the body to sense that blood sugar levels were high, when they were not, thereby releasing insulin to counteract.

Increased nerve activity from smoking marijuana causes tingling in the neck.  The brain apparently has a threshold of the number of stimuli that it can take before it gets tired.  Increased nerve activity brings on sleepiness sooner, another symptom of smoking marijuana.

If a nerve cell fires randomly, which they do, there is normally not enough synapse for the impulse to get through. This impulse is said to be inhibited.  After smoking marijuana, your inhibitions are lowered and more of these impulses actually arrive at the brain.  This explains the crazy and sometimes creative ideas that accompany being stoned.  Your inhibitions do not prevent these crazy ideas from coming into your head.  This also explains why some experience uncontrollable laughter at otherwise not so funny things.

Diabetes is the reduced ability for your pancreas to produce insulin.  While smoking marijuana may trigger the production of insulin in a healthy person it seems that it may not have as much of an affect on a diabetic because their ability to produce insulin is impaired.  Although I would be interested in more information on this.

My mother is a type I diabetic.   I use my mothers test equipment and my blood sugar often went out of control up until a year ago.  My mother was blind from diabetes by age 50.  I am not real happy with the treatment that she gets from Doctors.

As a result, I have challenged myself to control my own diet and exercise so that I do not loose limbs and go blind as my mother and a cousins have.  

It is against the law to smoke marijuana.  It is also against law to say that a combination of 10 food supplements will keep your diabetes in check.  

I took 10 substances in a capsule 3 times a day for a year and now my blood sugar is under reasonable control for the first time in 10 years.  

I am truly upset that my mother suffered for a lifetime and cousins lost limbs. In the orient and middle east, this cure for type II diabetes, has been known for hundreds of years.  Our health care situation does not need a band-aid like socializing it.  It needs a morality check.  We need to learn the best from each culture.

Doctors making a commission from the sales of the drugs they prescribe does not seem ethical. It makes sense that they would prescribe the most expensive and perhaps even give prescriptions when the are not necessary if they want to make more money.  

We need to stop paying for insurance and start paying for medical help.  40% of all insurance premiums go to paying the insurance brokers sales commission.  Then take out the insurance company cut from both ends (the doctor has to pay malpractice insurance) and less than 20% of your insurance dollar pays the doctor.  Maybe that is why Doctors look to commissions from prescriptions to make money?  Seriously, I know several doctors that are always on the brink of bankruptcy.

Not telling people what will cure them should be the crime.  We were taught in school that the British discovered that citrus fruit was the cure to scurvy.  It is illegal in the U.S. to claim that now?  What have we come to?  We will surely not recover until we all open our eyes to the truth. When we stop depending on others for information, we can truly find health.  The person filling your head my have selfish motives.  Find the information yourself.  It is not that hard.  

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by sctrndll, Apr 10, 2009 04:51AM
To: dm "moderator"
Marijuana Cannabis Chemical Reduces
the Development of Diabetes in Animal
Study

Researchers of the Hadassah University Hospital of Jerusalem investigated the effects of the plant cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) on the development of diabetes in mice, which develop diabetes due to genetic causes. So-called NOD mice develop insulitis within 4 to 5 weeks of age followed by diabetes within a median of 14 weeks. Insulitis is an inflammation of the cells in the pancreas that produce insulin, and diabetes is a result of a destruction of these cells.
NOD mice aged 6 to 12 weeks that were treated with 10 to 20 injections of CBD (5 mg per kilogram body weight) presented with a significantly reduced incidence of diabetes of 30 per cent compared to 86 per cent in untreated control mice. In addition, in the mice that developed diabetes in the treated group disease onset was a significantly delayed. Blood levels of two cytokines that promote inflammation, IFN-gamma and TFN-alpha, are usually increased in NOD mice. A treatment with CBD caused a significant reduction
(more than 70 per cent) in levels of both cytokines. In another experiment CBD-treated mice were observed for 26 weeks. While the 5 control mice all developed diabetes, 3 of 5 of the CBD-treated mice remained diabetes- free at 26 weeks.

Researchers concluded that confirmation of the observed immunomodulatory effects of CBD "may lead to the clinical application of this agent in the prevention of type 1 diabetes" and possibly other autoimmune diseases. They note that many patients diagnosed with type 1 diabetes have sufficient residual cells that produce insulin at the time of diagnosis, and may be candidates for immunomodulation therapy.

Source: Weiss L, Zeira M, Reich S, Har-Noy M, Mechoulam R, Slavin S, Gallily
R. Cannabidiol lowers incidence of diabetes in non-obese diabetic mice.
Autoimmunity 2006;39(2):143-51.

by Alex_X_18, Apr 14, 2009 06:53PM
Don't drink alchol it messes with your sugar....
If you are going to drink drink beer and mesure the carbs off the lable
only one or two beers because my mom went to bartending school and I know
what I am talking about when I say that your liver can only handle so much per hour
so be very careful
In my experience weed doesn't do anything to mess with my blood sugar level
and I've been smoking pot for years
thats just me I haven't asked any other diabetics about it........
I guess the only flaw is pot makes you hungry so be sure and bring your inslun with
you when you are going to someones house to get stoned
DO NOT
do anything else but weed because that will seriously mess up your sugars

by magenta4eva, Jul 28, 2009 08:38PM
To: Tyler
Mr Gatorade is wrong, unfortunately, about alcohol and diabetes. Although most alcoholic drinks will raise your blood sugar due to their calorific content, it will afterwards drop, sometimes significantly, when the alcohol kicks in. This means, that if you do decide to drink alcohol, make sure you eat something with it, and drink a non alcoholic beverage with carbohydrates, like orange juice, afterwards. Also have some water to rehydrate yourself :)

by utahdiabetic, Sep 15, 2009 03:07AM
I was diagnosed when I was 13, I am now 28.  My whole life I was told that Smoking weed would lead to to other bad things, a gateway drug.  And while Hith I would be in a position not to take care of myself.  For years I  chastised other diabetics for doing it.  Now I regret it,  I drank occasionally for the past 8 years, and as the past year came on, and my job got more stressful, I found myself drinking more and more.  to deal with the stress.  I didn not want to go on any pills, or anything like that.  My wife suggested we look into Weed, so after a long, and researched decision we took the plunge.  
I smoke week 2-3 times a week now, and I find that when I do smoke, my sugars are better controlled, my stress is much lower, any without drinking my a1c levels are much lower.  I was drinking a bottle of vodka every 3-5 days after work.  A0nd now I smoke through a vaporizer(which  I reccomend to everyone) I now feel better, in the mornings, and Overall, and it hasnt killed, me.
I havent gone on to Heroin, or Coke....  Nor have I committed any crimes to supportmy habit.  I had a visit to my Doctor, and he said I have been the healthiest I have been in 10 years.  lower cholesterol, A1C, and weight.
Im sorry to all my diabetic friends I came down on for smoking and toking, and if you are thinking about drinking, or smoking weed, really think about weed.  But as with drinking,
moderation, I have  friends that can smoke herb, and some that can drink I also have friends that cannot drink or smoke, you can be a pothead or an alcoholic, or a responsible user.

by manfreddo, Oct 17, 2009 07:59AM
To: Chronic
Type I Since 5 years old
Now 32 years old.

Big Party animal. Drank lots. Smoke weed everyday.

Only way to "safely" drink for a diabetic is to run high blood sugars for at least 12-15 hours after drinking (ie. 6pm to 9am next morning)

I even allow my BS to go up to 20 when drinking. If you dont pay attention and have more than 10 drink (which these days is not much!), this alcohol can cause devestating lows that your livers self defense mechanism cannot help, since liver is working on alcohol.

I eat a large meal and have most of my early booze with regular not diet pop. Once blood sugars high (15.0), I switch to diet. Never go below 15.0

My insulin in evening is typically 10R 20N.

Drinking dose is ussually 2R 3N.

Obviously my blood sugars are high, but i can drink and dance til 3am.

This is obviously a very controvesial method. But I am a Diabetic for life and feel long term complication from high BS are a lesser evil than short term seizuires.

A low blood sugar with alcohol in your system is black and white from a normal low sugar. It can kill you.

I test about 10-12 times in that period, and even more they following morning as I slowly work sugars down.

No matter how drunk I am I can alway take care of my blood sugar. I can sober up in a heartbeat and always remeber to test. Even 20 drinks later.

I alway keep cash on me, and coins for candy machines, powergels in my pocket (availible at running stores), meter in pocket, card with meds in pocket, medicalert bracelet.

I TRUST NO ONE.

Eat before you sleep, and in morning. Test few times at night.

My AM BS can be affected til lunch if i drink and dance lots. This will shift my metabolism into high gear. So take less insulin in moring or be careful and eat more. Test lots til lunch. Hourly

I had a high BS of 20 one morning, did not eat Breakfast, did insulin and went out and did not eat for couple hours. The one and only time i passed out so far. Lucky did not die. 100 percent my fault. Did not eat before sleeping or in AM.

Drink lots of water to flush out system.

Now on humalog and lantus.

Dont drink anymore.

But Weed every day for 10 years.

Weed is ok, but one pitfall...or maybe 2

You will be lazy and not pay attention to your BS as you should.

Also can be burnt out through a low. I woke up to some very bad lows that I would otherwise picked up on earlier if not passed out. diabetics are alway light sleepers

Also, health effects of smoking. And smoking stuff we dont know from "streets". I would love some natural ooutdoor stuff, even if not strong. But here in Vancoouver Canada. The weed is soooooo strong it is like weed crack.

MUNCHI'S are enemy #1

Soooo easy to eat what you want. Especially sugar. Which raise a1c and fasting BS. I am notorious for midnight snacks that hike my fasting BS.

But these will all kill me sooner.

But if I quit binge drinking and drinking a few glasses of wine here and there, this is better than my extreme method.

And if I quit smoking a few times a day and once in a while in a vaporizer instead.

That may be perfect. But I am a compulsive person.

Note: I have never tried any other drug EVER and do not smoke cigarettes at all.
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