Upper right GI Pain

[FIREWORX]

Im a 46 year old male. About three years ago I began having dicomfort, spasms, itchiness (internal) and pain just under my right rib-cage. Felt like something in there. For at least two years now i have had very loose stool, sometimes explosive and watery. No blood or mucous that I can see.I am awakened in the middle of the night with severe cramps and necessity to deficate immediately. Currently 6-8 BM per day. The discomfort in my side continues. I have had numerous tests including a CT scan and stool sample for bacteria,ultra sound for liver etc. Pylegram, exray. All negative.Now scheduled for Barium enima. I had gastric ulcers at the age of 12-15 which dissapeared. I am plagued with fatigue, mild nausea after eating, excessive sweating, muscle and joint pain as well. My ex-wife tells me she has just been diagnosed and succesfully treated for H. Pylori for similar symptoms. My research indicates my symptoms are conststant with HPylori except for the diarhea. Could HP cause diarhea due to excessive acid production & the pain be from an ulcer?
Your coments would be appreciated as my doctors seem to go around this pain in the side issue.

[anti spaz]

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[spike1951]

There is one good GI doctor out there for every 10,000 bad ones.  They can diagnose IBS, IBS, IBS, and gas!

My wife has perfec cholesterol levels!!  What has that got to do with Chronic Pancreatitis.  Doctors!!!!!!!!!  Ole, my wife never drinks either!

You said, "I know have the basically the same symptoms. Doctors want to say its IBS. I've been on Librax for a month now - don't seem to see much of a change."  We, my wife & I because I go to every appointment with her, this disease is bad enough to have to go through it alone, anyway, we have been there and done that librax, of course it won't work if you have Chronic Pancreatitis!!

From another post:

You need a clinic that specialized in Chronic Pancreatitis. It's bull that if your amalse & lipase aren't elevated you don't have Chronic Pancreatitis. Acute Pancreatitis has elevated enzymes NOT CHRONIC PANCREATITIS. These are almost NEVER elevated with Chronic Pancreatitis.

If you have IDIOPATHIC CHRONIC PANCREATITIS there is, or can be, no structral problem like blocked or narrowed ducts. The enzymes just become active and burn like acid in your pancreas. My wife says, similar to you, it like the worst leg cramp you can imagine times 20 inside your belly, upper right & radiating, and going on for days or in my wife's case years!

here is my wifes info

DIAGNOSES CONFIRMED VIA:

1. EXAMINATION --- 10/1999

[5fan]

I just wanted to ask if your wife has elevated cholesterol levels?  

I have been having a lot of problems since having my gallbaldder out in July.  I had pancreatitis at the time and the sugery was postponed for a number of days until it was under control.

I know have the basically the same symptoms.  Doctors want to say its IBS.  I've been on Librax for a month now - don't seem to see much of a change.  

I just spent a week in the hospital due to the upper right quadrant pain that follows my rib cage and feels like someone punched me in the diaphragm and did't remove their fist - pain radiates to the back.

At one point my Gastro had circled the diagnosis on my billing statement as Chronic Pancreatitis.  We didn't discuss it because I had numerous tests scheduled at the time.  The Gastro I had in the hospital (a partner of my Gastro) wouldn't even consider the fact.  Looked at me like I was a nut becuase I don't drink and have perfect cholesterol therefore CP isn't what is wrong with me.  

Seven days in the hospital with morphine and it seems funny they still don't have a diagnosis other than "severe gastritis".  According to my Gastro it has been longstanding.  My question for them is then why all the problems now.  No problems prior to pancreatitis and gallbladder surgery!

[kaylea]

I had a hyda scan have no gallblader now.  Funny I cant eat potatoes but most vegies are okay they just bloat me.  I eat pretty much very blaw blaw food.  I have lost a fair bit of weight.  I tried alll summer to loose weight and couldn't,I get an ulcer and wham gone like a flash.  Cant win ey.  Good luck

[spike1951]

DO NOT overlook Chronic Pancreatitis.  It is very hard to diagnose in some cases and causes extreme upper right quadrant pain radiating to the back.  It cause a lot of symptoms, some different in different people.

My wife is completely debilitated and in tremendous pain and goes on IV Dilaudid every month or more for 5 days.  It often gets worse as time goes by.  

Don't fool around with local doctors! Go to a GI clinic, like Mayo, in Florida, Shands at Univ. of Fl is good, etc.

My wife spent 9 months with local GI doctors and was diagnosed with everything from Pelvic floor dysfunction to IBS and more.  NONE WERE CORRECT.

Search the web for Chronic Pancreatitis and read up on it.  It hits more males than female and often in the 40's age range.  My wife never drank but drinking is a leading cause of Chronic Pancreatitis.

May not be your case but I'd look it up and get to a real "clinic"

[FIREWORX]

Nope. Never had that, but I can tell you if I went Veg I would blow up. Anything in the veg line aside from potatoes I may as well not bother eating. It just goes through me.

[kaylea]

Hello, glad you kept updating.  Was concerned hadnt seen you post for a day or so.  I to will be going for a scope.  I wonder if this will ever end.  Frustrating.  What works one day doesnt the next.  I need a new body.  Hang in there and wish you the best.

[Flowerchild59]

Did you ever have a hida-scan for gallbladder function?  Been tested for food allergies?  I speculate if you went vegan and eliminated all animal products things would improve.

[FIREWORX]

Well ... Thay have set up appointments for me for a Barium Enema, scope work on both ends, stress EKG and another full blood workup.

I'll let you know what they find out if I survive all the clean outs.

[kaylea]

Good Luck with everything.  Its really frustrating because nothing gets done in a hurry.  Best of luck.  If they should tell you its IBS irritable bowel syndrome there is a new drug called zelnorm.  For some reason its for women but maybe you could ask if there is one for men.  Thats if they diagnosed ibs.
Hang in there .  Kaylea

[FIREWORX]

Thank you. That is certainly food for thought (pardon the pun)My first impressions were that I had a problem with my gall bladder, but all the tests said no. Should I trust them? What choice do you have.

I am going to the dr's office in the morning with all my findings written down (they don't use their ears much it seems) and then I am making an appointment to see him after he has looked the stuff over. We'll see what happens after that.

My Best

[kaylea]

Hello, I was diagnosed with colitis and I had these symptoms that you are describing.  I didn't always have the diarehia.  At one time I would take so much imodium that I never went.  Then I went to a gastroentologist, he told me to take metamucil.  That seem to help.  I still get nausea and night sweats but not as often.  Ihad a hyda scan because I was getting such severe chest pain coming out my back that I thought I was having a heart attack.  I found out that all this was because of my gallbladder.  It wouldn't stop functioning and it ran all the time.  I had it removed and then it was like a had a new body.
I still get bouts of colitis.  I am now diagnosed with a gastric ulcer.  I cant get rid of chest burning even tho iam on prilosec and malox.  Hope this helps.

[FIREWORX]

Thanks for the input. I know what you're husband is going through, as i feel like I'm dying as well. At least the future doesn't look as bright as it used to.  I am seeing my doctor Monday about this. I am in Canada, so there is no problem with cost or insurance. The problem does exist however, that the equipment and expertise are not as available. I will post whatever I find out.
Regards

[lilhoss68]

Hello! I would love to know if you have found anything on your symptoms? My husband has the same symptoms but his has gotten worse in the last few weeks. I have researched Ulcerative Colitis and he has all the signs so I thought. After reading your symptoms he has the same ones even the excessive sweating. This is really scaring me because he says he feels like he is dying. So, if we get a diagnosis I will let you know.