Chronic Kidney Disease ???

[Chloe_and_ApollosMom]

A month ago my dog, Chloe, got very sick. She was constipated and vomiting. The vet took blood work that showed she had pancreatitis and kidney disease. Her BUN was 76 and creatinine 5.6. Her pancreatic function numbers were (Am) 2148 and (LP) 2792. She was on IV fluids overnight and her numbers barely changed for her kidneys but her pancreas function numbers were (Am) 441 and (LP)550. I put her on supplements for kidney support; a multi-plus digestive plant enzyme blend, a probiotic blend, glandular, a kidney tonic containing Hawthorne berries, Ginkgo leaf, Astragalus Root, Burdock Root Couch Grass Rhizome, Marshmallow root,Nettle leaf, Dandelion Leaf, Spirulina Platensis, Rehmannia root and condonopsis. I also administered 200 ml. SubQ fluids a day. In 2 weeks her kidney values were within normal range, (BN) 20 and (CR) 1.4. Her pancreatic functions were (Am) 664, in normal range and (LP) 513, still high. Two weeks later we repeated her blood work and her kidney functions were even better. Her vet is saying pancreatitis caused her kidney values to be so high and I can discontinue her SubQ fluids. She doesn't place any value on the supplements. I thought her kidneys were failing and that the damage could not be reversed, so I am afraid to stop giving her the supplements and fluids. Is it possible her pancreatitis caused her horrible kidney numbers? Is it safe to discontinue the supplements and fluids?

[ginger899]

Sorry, I clicked too quickly and cannot edit the ebove post.

If you are unsure, then there is no harm in continuing the sub-q fluids, so long as she doesn't mind that and it doesn't upset her to receive them. But the fluids are just fluids -to keep up hydration levels. They are very useful to quickly top up hydration especially when a dog won't drink enough. And very helpful during any renal crisis, or especially in late stage kdney failure for dogs and cats.
If she is drinking normally, and amount good for her size and weight, then there may be no need for the additonal fluids any more.
But if you are unsure about that, then continue her sub-q's.

I'll repeat what I said above. A holistic/herbal vet (hope you can find one!) would be able to advise you much better than I can.

[ginger899]

I do not wish to go against the recommendations of your vet, but some of the ingredients of that herbal tonic would be all right to continue as a general support.
Astragalus for example is a good immune function tonic, and as far as I know, safe for dogs.
Nettle is a herb which can be taken regularly -even as a food and is good for dogs and humans! I used to add steamed or boled nettle to my dog's food.
Burdock is also a good herb as a general support, and so is Dandelion and Hawthorn.  Same with Couch grass, and  Marshmallow root is a soothing demulcent -again in the past used as a food (although it is pretty gloopy to eat!)
Spirulina is often added to green juices and smoothies, and is a food -known as a "superfood". Again, not harmful and probably helpful for general health.
They are all safe herbs when used as recommended and not given in massive quantities. They are all safe for dogs.
I am not sure about Rehmannia and condonopsis. I have never heard of them. There might be indications which say they are to be used for a certain amount of time only (as treatment for example) Some herbs are meant to be used that way and not as an on-going thing. But I don't know those two well enough.

The vet will probably have NO knowledge of herbal medicine. Most vets haven't. They think herbs are no good.

You could do with booking a consultation with a holistic/herbal vet if you can find one.