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Dog Brain Structure Damages?

Hi, I found an abonded small dog with head injury as told after the x-ray from vet. Vet told me it's a serious brain damage where the structure is in pieces. But the dog is able to walk a little and see also. I do not know if it would be any other option to have this dog alive painless and healthy? Please HELP
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158939 tn?1274915197
She was traumatized and has been on pain meds (like Jaybay said) and she was on an IV for a long time (no solids).  Call the vet and ask but I think that things will "work themselves out" in a day or so.
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82861 tn?1333453911
IV means Intra-Veneous - a needle is inserted into a vein to provide anything from basic fluids to antibiotics to pain meds to nutrtion.  Just like when a human is in the hospital.

You should be able to rig up a ramp to the crate using objects in your home.  Even a rolled up towel might help.

Where do you live that you still need the AC this time of year?  LOL!  She will probably need to be more on the warm side right now anyway so that shouldn't be a problem.  You could also drape a towel over the crate if it's one of those open-air, wire type cages.  It makes the dog feel more secure and warm.  

Another thing to try while she's still not mobile, is the "wee wee" pads you get at the pet store for housetraining.  If the crate is large enough, put one in one end of the crate.  If not, place it right outside the door.  My mother-in-law swears by them for her little chihuahua mix when she needs to leave the house all day.
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82861 tn?1333453911
I think your vet is right.  As long as she can eat and drink on her own, and doesn't require IV therapy, she'll probably do better outside of the hospital.  What great news!

If you don't already have a crate, you might try to get one today.  Just keep it in the same area that you generally spend time, and make it a nice and cozy place for her to relax.  She may just ignore it initially, but in my experience, my dogs love to spend time in their crates to unwind and relax.  You can also put an article of your own clothing in there so she associates the crate with you.  You don't have to close the door on her, but just having a "den" available can be a real comfort to a sick dog.  They are genetically wired to go into a den for security.  It makes the area they feel they have to "guard" small enough to be manageable.  You can also feed in the crate to help her associate it with something good.

What a Christmas gift you've had!  :-)
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82861 tn?1333453911
At least she's moving in the right direction!  Your vet is right about the collapsed lung not being the worst medical issue Hope is having.  The brain damage is the more important thing to worry about.  The lung could be not able to inflate because of blood surrounding, a hole in the lung itself, or if the lung is "bruised", it's just constantly leaking blood which makes it unable to fill with air.  The other lung can carry on for a while as the other one hopefully heals.

Seizures are always a possibility in any animal (or human) with a brain injury.  If they haven't manifested yet, hopefully that will never be an issue.  Seizures truly are more difficult for the person who sees it happen that the animal or person who is having one.  Matter of fact, we're currently babysitting the lab from next door who has one like clockwork every 6 to 8 weeks in spite of phenobarb twice a day.  They're a lot milder now with the meds.  In the beginning, he lost bladder and bowel control every time.  Recovery is now shortened a great deal as well.  Back to King - he's due for a seizure while his dad is out of town, so we're keeping a close eye on him.

You're doing great, and Hope certainly hasn't given up yet.  You never know - dogs sometimes recover just fine from what appears to be hopeless situations.  The fact that she's improving, even a little, is a good sign.  :-)
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Oh... there is also one problem at the lung where one side of the lung (partly) "no-air-sign". Which mean there could be a content of blood or past injury thing? But Vet mentioend that this can be address carefully and it's not as fatal issue as the skull. and this explained why HOPE is breathing heavily and one a while choking and I saw something is stuck in the nose.

But most of the time, HOPE is laying onside and sleeping. It seem to be that she wants to hide from "people". I saw her always move the head face to the wall and crawled both leg under the body and lay almost motionless. I hope she can feel that someone is still care about her.
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82861 tn?1333453911
I applaud you for being a good Samaritan for this poor little guy!  Listen to the vet.  In my opinion, if the dog is in pain and there is little hope he can live a fairly normal and comfortable life, you will be doing him a favor by easing him out of his life.  Of course, brain injuries can be really unpredictable in both animals and humans.  If he's not all that uncomfortable, you could adopt a wait-and-see attitude and see how he does as time goes by.  He may never be able to regain normal function, and may develop seizures and other problems, but that tends to be harder on the person dealing with him than the dog.  Unless he dies on his own, this very unfortunate decision is entirely in your hands.  Blessings for trying to help him.

Jen
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Hi, I will have HOPY posted to my multiply soon (end of the Mar 2008).
I still need sometimes to organize myself. HOPY has been very healthy.
Thanks GOD for giving HOPY and us (Taroy and Vivian) a chance.
Here is the website - http://vivianandtaroy.multiply.com
Thanks again for everyone.
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82861 tn?1333453911
What a wonderful ending to what began as a horror story!  And now you're in the beginning of a relationship that should last many years.  Congrats to you and Hope! :-)
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Hi... thank you very much for all the advices. Hopy is doing so well that now she can jump, bark, eat, poop, and play too! She is a very naughty girl yet very obedient (sometimes). We went to Vet for check-up and x-ray shown lung is still clear. But the vomitting is still going on but not as bad as previously. Maybe now once a week. But this week, she has not been vomitting. It's a very good sign.

Previously, the medicine that she took was for anti-vomit which I have only giving once. This is to help to push the food "forward" and no reverse motion as explained.

Vet has also given a medicine that the pills can reduce the acid level when HOPY vomit. But again, I gave only once as I slowly noted that if I discipline her somehow, she is doing just fine.

Now I started the heartguard treatment already. The vet is amazed that HOPY is doing so well that we can start the treatment.

How the routine for HOPY is to wake up early as 7am.
Poop and pee for the day. before the start.
HOPY will be walk around in the living room just to get some "warm-up".
Then exersice her at the corridor. Running up and down for maybe 3 ~ 5 llaps of  around 50m/lap. Then walk her a bit to "warn-down".
HOPY will automatically get in and wait at the kitchen for breakfast.
But will not provide her still I have bath and ready to work.
After the food, she will sit tight at her towel and lay down to rest.
And I will be off to work. And whenever HOPY see we are home, she will know it's playing time.

But now that she is so spoilted that she need me to feed her with food! The reason is because i has been feed her with food for 2 times because there is ants that going around the bowl. And I try to avoid that so I feed her. But now that she is smart to sit nicely waiting for me to feed her. Now that I have to train her back at the same time to deal with the ants problems. :-(

I will find a chance to upload some video of HOPY just to share how amazing HOPY is doing and thanks GOD for giving her a good chance to live and be with us.

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82861 tn?1333453911
I think what your vet is concerned about is aspiration pneumonia.  All that means is that the contents of the stomach reflux upward, and make it possible for those contents to get inhaled into the trachea and down into the lungs - thereby causing pneumonia.  What meds are you trying to keep the vomiting down, and are they working so far?  Hope really is a miracle in that she's made it this far.  She's got a ways to go, but she's going in the right direction! :-)
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Acid reflux and pnemonia are two totally different things.  Acid reflux is from the stomach...you will probably have to put her on a special diet to help her stomach...pnemonia is congestion in the lungs.  If her lungs are clear (which they seem to be) you do not have to worry about that...But, of course, call your vet for a definitive answer.
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Hi Vivian
I'm not sure about the pre-liminary symptoms of phneumonia.
I would call the vet and ask what signs to look for so that you will be alerted to anything that would require immediate medical attention.
Your little Hope certainly found the care & love that she needs in you.
Hopefully the tablet pill will help her very soon so that this gastric reflux problem does not have a chance to get worse.
Keep giving her the love and care that she needs and keep praying for her.  I will pray for her as well.
I had had a Shi-zu when I was a child.  That was the first dog I had.
They are wonderful.  I now have 2 small dogs that are similar to your Hope.  One is a Lasa Ahpso (Rudy.  He was abanded in 5 degree winter wheather when I adopted him).  I also have another that is
1/2 Pekoneese and 1/2 poodle.  His name is Romeo. and he is 11 years old.

My little Romeo swallowed something large that he found while outside in the grass in December and became so ill.  They had to perform emergency surgery, cut open his chest & stomach as well as intenstines to remove the item.
That first week he was weak and in pain I thought he would never recover and plus he is not young like Hope is and does not have as much strength.  I prayed for him and my whole family prayed for him every day no mater how bad he seemed.   He got better and pulled through regardless of how hold he is.  He is just fine.  This is the 3rd time my Romeo almost died due to things out of my control.  One of them was a severe reaction to a vaccination shot which is very very rare.  
Put a cross on you hope to protect her and so that God's hand is always on her to heal her.
I'll check back on this website soon so can see hop Hope is doing.
I think she will be ok and that there are just some adjustments that need to be made to accomodate her medical issues.

Andrea
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Hopy-py has went for the medical check-up yesterday. Her skull is receovered rather propery as seen from the x-ray. It's a good sign and a miracle. God has given a chances for Hope-py. But we wound another problem which due to her vomitting. Doctor diagnosied that she might have gastric reflux. Anti-vomit tablet has been given to monitor her for the next two weeks. If it not treated well it will cause pneumonia!? Is there any treatment for gastic reflux? How should I take extra care on her? What is the preliminary symptoms of pneumonia?
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Hope-py has been already with us for exactly one week and I think she is doing rather well. Thank you everyone who has advice me so much. I think all I have to do is to be patient enough. Hope-py just take a little more time than usual to do all her things her way. She is pooing (like once a week), she is drinking already but very very little, and she still vomit but it's ok as I think it is mainly because she is eating too fast and also too many at one time. I am teaching her to eat little by little and slowly. Hopefully she will slowly understand my move.

Thank you very much for being such helpful and sharing.
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Hi amb_hgn, thanks for your advice. In fact, I have not file any report with the SPCA as I think our local SPCA are loaded with all sort of issue. I just think that since I am able to handle, I do not want to make the hassle as I think HOPE at this moment needed a very special care. I think I am still fine to manage it. And you are right, it sound like a criminal act and I have been thinking about it also how harmful HOPE can be to deserve such cruel act against her. But just pray that HOPE will get recover properly.

Hi utahmomma, thanks for the prayer. I have already call up the vet about not drinking. But Vet mentioned that if she is eating, the soft food contain some fiuld which is also OK. But advice to check by picking up her skin to see if she is hyrated?

One good news is I went home for lunch today again with hubby and then left to work. Leaving hubby hanging around for a little while with HOPE. And few minutes after I get off the car, hubby called to tell me the greatest news - HOPE finally poo! It's not too hard and not too soft as described. Is this mean that HOPE has sufficient fluid consumed? Also my hubby mentioned that first time HOPE seem to swing her tail a little when my hubby trying to clean her button. ha ha ha... I am very happy to know HOPE is poo-ing. Guess I will call up the vet to tell him too and seek his advice about the vomitting. I have taken some pictures also of HOPE vomitted contain. It's a little green in colour. Is bile bad? It that meant something internal injury perhaps the livers? digestion problem?
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158939 tn?1274915197
I would call the vet and mention that she is not drinking. She is awfully small and could get dehydrated very quickly.  The vomit sounds like it may be bile - also mention that to the vet.

Prayers for you and HOPE
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377648 tn?1199409478
Did you file a report with the SPCA? (or local anti animal cruelty organization or law enforcement). Sounds like a criminal act was committed against this poor girl.
Animal advocacy organizations may also be able to provide you with some of the medical care that is required. As well, they likely have seen this kind of thing before, sadly. They can be a great resource in helping you and Hope through this ordeal. Not all SPCA's or animal rescues are the same - some are better than others, so check out as many as you can from your local area.
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ok.. another night passed and she is not poo but only pee. I shall give myself another night to monitor. Beside this problem, I noticed HOPE vomit also. At least once a day. She vomit only fiuld. It smell a little like her urine. But why the vomit? I am worry on this also as before vet has not mentioned anything about the vomitting. Other than that, she is walking fine and eating right. But not drinking. Hopefully the soft can food will be able to provide sufficient fiuld for her.
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ohh... already two days. HOPE has not poo even once. I am getting more worry now. Should I send her to VET? But she has been urine rather normal. This morning, I see that she is a bit weak and dun really want to eat and walk as the day before, she is rather active to walk about and eat the food in the morning. hopefully this is only a transit time for her to get familiar with the new home.
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82861 tn?1333453911
It takes a while for the bowel to get moving again after any kind of trauma requiring surgery or pain medication.  Don't forget, she hasn't been eating much for several days, so there isn't much in her gut right now.  Pain meds and lack of exercise also slow transit time.  Nothing to worry about just yet.  :-)
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Ahh... HOPE has not poo poo yet only urine. A bit worry. But she has been eating alot and well. Good sign! Good sign! She can click her eyes too when we called her. She is getting very adorable... :-)
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158939 tn?1274915197
Sounds like she is on the road to recovery!  Vivian, you are a wonderful person for all you have done for her!  Best to you and HOPE.
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HOPE is eating already after 4 hours at home for the first time. But has not been drinking much. And she has not been shaking at all. This is a good sign I suppose. Now after the medicine, she is sleeping very deeply as I can feel. Has been pee for twice or perhaps three times. But has not poo poo yet. Maybe tonight she will? She has been walking rather a lot today when I put her on the living room. :-) But all I wish is HOPE can recover properly.
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Ops.... guess I am too excited but has not really describe HOPE. She is a 2 years old Shi Tzu (~4kg). And I am living in the tropical country here in Malaysia. It's all year round hot. Only at some months it's rain.

Thank you very much for your advice on the ramp idea. I think I will use the rolled up tower instead with some old cloths and some towels.

But one thing I am abit worry or perhaps I will call up the VET to check about her diet routine. As until now after 2 hours, I yet to see her drink or eat. Will continue to monitor very closely as she has been in IV for 4 days and only yesterday and today she is off the IV therapy.

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