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730826 tn?1317943334

The worst dog farts EVER!

So Ive had this puppy for 3 weeks now. He is just over 2 months old and has never had gas till now. This morning (4 am) his stomach was gurgling alot and wouldn't stop for a couple hours. Since he has had the stinkiest Gas all day.
His diet hasnt changed at all. Any idea why this is happening and if it will stop?
My other dog didnt get stinky gas till she was 10 at least.
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Lucey, I'm so sorry for your loss.  I lost my 14.5 year old dog by trusting a Vet to do a questionable operation, when I should have gotten 2nd and 3rd opinions from other Vets, (and never allowed the operation, but pursued safer treatments)   I learned something from that. I learned that I have to be vigilant with my animals in making decisions for them in regards to procedures I allow, or drugs, (toxins/poisons)  I administer or allow.  

Again, I woudn't go back to that Vet.  I've never heard of an 8 week old pup having a bad case of parvo, but then, I suppose its possible, (though highly unlikely).  If the vet thought parvo is such an epidemic in your area, he should have tested your pup for parvo first before administering a parvo vaccine.  An x-ray should also have been taken if there was possiblity something obstructing the pups intestines.  My guess, though I'm certainly not a Vet, is that your pup was poisoned/his immune system destroyed by all the toxins the Vet gave him all at once.  And a holistic or homepathic vet might have been able to turn that around with nutrition and hydration IVs  and other remedies.  I think your Vet is a quack.  There's no reaon a little pup should have to die like that.

I know you feel awful.  You had awful treatment, and awful advice from a awful vet, and now you've lost your little one as a result.  Don't blame yourself- you trusted that Vet to know what he was doing, (you supposed to be able to trust your vet!...that's why you go to him for your dog's care!!!)   So, please, don't blame yourself.  How could you know this guy was a quack, (we're all taught to trust our doctors!)

You've learned a lot from this, however, no doubt.  Definitely find a holistic or homepathic vet in your area- or even outside of your area next time you get a pet.  And remember how devastasting vaccines, wormers, pet foods can be to a baby animal- they're poisons, and in combination, they can wreck a pets health, sometimes beyond repair, as you have learned in such a hard way.

Don't blame yourself, dear.  Not your fault.  Just learn from this, and be vigilant with every Vet- don't trust everything they recommend.  You can always tell a vet you'd like to research this or that before proceeding with any and every of their recommendations.
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730826 tn?1317943334
He wasnt eating. it was day 3 of not eating when we had him put down.
They said he needed a parvo test, if it was negative then he would need the xray ($150) and if it was either of that treating it would be close to $2000. Unless they could fix him that day, I wouldnt have changed my mind about my decision. He was suffering that bad that I dont think he would have made it to the end of the day even with IV. I forgot to mention that he was put down wednesday and it was the thursday before we were in the vet. Thursday he weighed 16.6 pounds. not even a week later he weighed 14 pounds. and he wasnt fat. So thats a lot of mainly muscle to lose.  Im not sure if I want to get another dog while living here at all. The vet was saying its really bad in this area and its not like we have our own property, we live in a row home.
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730826 tn?1317943334
I didnt know shelters would do that. I would assume they would want a body. Our cat we got from the shelter and he hanged himself after having him 2 days. Man did I kick myself for getting a collar rather than a harness.
We got him from this mormon couple out on a farm. No shots or vet checks, $75 and we did the shots ourselves.  Hubby said when we get another one (when Im ready, I say never) we will save up, have a few grand set aside for accidents, and get it from a well known breeder.

It might just be back luck as I love pets and care for them as best as I can. Im thinking fish, its not as sad when they die.
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203342 tn?1328737207
That's awful! My husband lost a puppy to Parvo when he was a young adult and I know it was devastating to him. Also, I just had to have my dog put to sleep last month so I know how hard it is to lose a pet. I'm so sorry you went through this.
Did you get this puppy from a breeder? I would think they should compensate you somehow, especially if it was Parvo. Or if it was the pound or a rescue organization a lot of times they will let you have another pet since you didn't have him long.
I'm so sorry this happened. My condolences to you.
April
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441382 tn?1452810569
I am so sorry to hear that you had to put your puppy down.  

So much of what your vet said and did, however, just did not sound right to me.  If this puppy had something stuck in his GI tract, an X-ray would have shown it, especially if it was something that had the ability to cut up his insides.  Didn't he ever think to take an X-ray?  

It's true when a puppy has parvo they have bloody diarrhea and can vomit blood, but normally when a puppy has parvo and it is far enough along for him to be vomiting and passing blood, he will refuse to eat, and your puppy ate, so again, even though it could have been a possibility, it doesn't really sound like parvo to me, either.

Just in case it was parvo, I would wait a good long time before getting another puppy.  Parvovirus can live in the environment for up to 18 months, so unless you have a way to disinfect every inch of your home and yard before bringing another puppy or dog home, I would wait for a while because in the event that it was parvo, you don't want to risk a new puppy catching it from sniffing where the sick puppy pooped, peed or threw up.

I would also, when you do finally get another puppy or kitten, find a different veterinarian.  From the way you described the vet who handled this case, if it were me, I would not let him touch another one of my pets.  There were so many basics that should have been done that were seemingly overlooked, at least from your description of what transpired, I would make sure that I looked around and found a vet who came well-recommended from other local pet owners.

Ghilly
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730826 tn?1317943334
I am so heart broken right now. He got his shot and stuff last thursday (a week ago) we were told there woudl be more worms from the ones laying eggs. We were also told he needs IAMS food. Sunday night we mixed his regular food with IAMS. Monday morning he puked. I thought it was the food.  He seemed fine otherwise so we went camping as planned. When he didnt get better ( ie wasnt eating and had bad diarrhea, not puking)
we left the next day. By night he was puking lots. It was after hours so I calle dhte emergency line and the vet said as long as he i s keeping some fluids down, and try to give him rice, then come in in the morning. The next day he was so weak he couldnt barely stand.  It looked like he was trying to find a place to die, laying in the long  grass, hiding behind the bikes... 12 ( his appointment) couldnt come sooner.

We were told it was one of 2 things (by the way, he started barfing up blood in the Dr. office. ) Parvovirus, or soemthing stuck in his GI track, cutting open his insides. Either way he had less than 50% chance of making it when treated. (under 10% if it was parvo and if it was treated at first signs) It woudl cost over $2000 if he was in hospital for minimum 3 days but woudl probably need 7 days. It was so hard but when he was on the verge of death, I wanted him not to suffer so we had him put down.
I feel so bad, and miss him so much, I want my happy, tail wagging little man back. The little guy who slept on my feet while doing dishes, cooking, or jsut climbing on my lap in teh car or while watching TV  or when we woudl crawl into bed at 3 am and bit my hair to let me know he needs to go out.
I feel so bad haing to do this even knowing the vet said it woudl be best and there wasnt much I could do, it wasnt my fault. I feel like the most horrible person trying to make a good home for him and  our cat we got a month before who also past away. I was trying to do the best things and failed. Im so mad at myself and miss my pets.
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You can find Holistic Vets in your area by going to the their website:  www.ahvma.org (American Holistic Veteriniary Medical Association).  Holistic Vets (and Homeopathic Vets have more training/additional coursework beyond traditional Vet school that teaches them the importance of nutrition and natural remedys in treating your pet).  This extra coursework certifies them to be listed as a Holistic or Homeopathic Vet.  (Homeo pathic vets have generally done even more coursework than Holistic Vets).

Vet Schools do not teach courses on nutrition/supplements in getting at the root of symptoms, (they teach vets to prescribe pharmaceuticals, instead).  Many dog health problems are caused by over-vaccination and the use of pet meds which weaken a dogs immune system.  The dog's health can generally be fixed with good diet, (grain-free) and proper supplements (pro-biotics, immune booster such as Canine Transfer Factor by 4life)  as part of their lifestyle, but vets on the whole have not been trained in nutrition, and do not teach their clients about the importance of really good food, and also about the importance of choosing natural remedys, (for flea control, for example) rather than toxins/poisons that compromise the immune system.

And by the way, a lot of the foods Vets carry in their office, (and try to sell you at high prices) are not the best foods-  read the labels-  they contain corn, wheat, gluten, grains, and low-quality protein sources.  (For example, the very expensive prescription-only N/D Science Diet for cancer dogs gets its protein from beef lung-  very cheap low quality protein source.)  The best foods should not have grains or glutens, as these are fillers that stress your dogs kidneys/liver over time, and can lead to shortened life span or kidney/liver or othwe problems, etc..  The best foods should have meat protein sources listed in the first five ingredients, and be grain and gluten-free. Raw meat incorporated into the diet is especially wonderful for dogs, as the enzymes boost a dogs health, and raw meat is more natural diet for a canine than cooked dog food.

  Did you know that there is a very high occurence between recently vaccinated pets and cancer diagnosis?  Cancer is the # 1 killer of dogs in the U.S.-  not old age, not car accidents...CANCER.  We all have cancer cells in our body, kind of there just waiting for the opportunity when the immune system gets run down so that the cancer can set up shop in a weakened part, (such as where a prior injury occured on a bone, or in a kidney weakened by bad diet, etc...).    With dogs, pharmaceuticals/vaccines/improper diet are all causes of an immune system being compromised. Not that we shouldn't vaccinate dogs ever, but, they don't need to be vaccinated every year-  and certainly not on top of other toxins given at the same time!  And certainly vaccinate only when your dog is in optimal health, (not when he is sick, or recovering from something).  You only want to vaccinate when your dog is in optimal health, getting great food/supplements. A vet can draw blood to do a titer test to determine if your dog still has immunity in his system from a prior vaccine, rather than automatically just giving a yearly booster.

The reason I am taking the time to write this down, is that my dog has bone cancer, and was diagnosed 2 weeks after a vaccination.  The cancer started in the exact spot where my dog's bone had been injured in an accident 2 years prior, (right at the scar point).   And I had given my dog worming medicine right around the same time as the vaccination, and my Vet had prescribed Prion for a leaking problem-  all around the same time.  If I had only known about the danger of pet meds/vaccinations, and what constituted a canine diet for optimal health, I believe the cancer would never have had the opportunity to set in at this vulnerable spot on my dogs leg, as I would never have allowed my dog's immune system to be compromised, especially in light of a traumatic injury that would forever be prone to cancer development.

So, anyways, I wish someone had told me. My little girl would still have her  leg, instead of an amputated stump, if I'd only known.  If my Vet had only known in order to properly educate me!!!  'Hope this helps someone.
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441382 tn?1452810569
I think you're confusing heartworm with ringworm, which isn't a worm at all, but a fungus.  Ringworm shows up as red crusty circles and it's possible for animals of all ages to get ringworm.  It also has nothing to do with the fact that the puppy has round worms, those are internal parasites and they ARE actual worms.  

The one shot for the parvo didn't just contain the parvovirus antigen.  There is a five-in-one and a seven-in-one, depending on which one your vet uses.  Sometimes they don't use the one that has the leptospirosis antigen in it, since many dogs and especially puppies will react badly to the lepto antigen.  But your puppy was vaccinated for at least five things and possibly seven with that shot, parvo was just one of them.

Also, I think you're really confused about the ringworm vs heartworm thing, since you said that the treatment for this was also to control fleas, but there is no flea control that comes in an ointment, nor is there a flea control that is coupled with anything to control ringworm.  Flea control comes in the form of a pill (Capstar or Proban), a spray (any number of spray-on flea treatments available on the general market) or an oily preparation that you squeeze out onto the back of their neck.  This oily preparation is absorbed into the fat layer under the skin, where it spreads all over the body, thereby protecting the pet from flea infestation.  

The next time you talk to your vet ask him to explain everything to you again, because you've got everything quite confused, and it will be helpful to you to have your vet re-explain what everything is and how it works.

Ghilly
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203342 tn?1328737207
Poor puppy. I sure hope he gets better soon. That's a lot for a little puppy to go through. Could the red spot be ringworm? I think there's a topical cream you can put on to help it.

It's interesting that you all said the vet shouldn't be giving heartworm medicine to a puppy so young. The vet I took my puppies to (when they were 7 weeks old) asked if I wanted to buy heartworm medicine while I was there. I told him I'd wait on that. So, I guess they don't need that stuff so young, huh?
I like the idea of the holistic vet. I'll have to see if we have one where I live.

I hope your puppy feels better soon! What breed is he? I just adopted 2 little toy poodles and they're adorable :) (even if they are keeping me up at night, lol)
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730826 tn?1317943334
The heartworm med was a topical thing you put on the skin . I think since he had round worm she figured better be safe. The round work meds is something he ingests and its to kill his tons of existing worms.

So to simplify, one shot- parvo
one ointment-flee/heartworm
one oral med-roundworm

If they were all shots I would be worried too. He needed the parvo and round worm, that was a must!
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441382 tn?1452810569
I'm with you, dogmom, it is unheard of to give a two month old puppy heartworm medicine.  I am wondering what this vet's rationale is behind giving this puppy all these things at this young age.  It IS a toxin overload, I agree, and I would most certainly question this vet's abilities for doing this.

Ghilly
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I've never heard of a Vet giving heartworm/flea treatment at such young age, or giving worming medicine so young, plus and an additional vaccine on top of all those TOXINS, and all at once!  Yikes.  I hope that vet didn't mess up your pups immune system!  Definitely try to find a homeopathic or holistic vet- I wouldn't go back to that guy! Sounds like your pet needs a probiotic, some immune boosters, and some TLC from a new vet. Don't let a vet talk you into more toxins/poisons for your little guy.
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730826 tn?1317943334
He is getting no named brand for now. The vet convinced me that if I sped more on food Id spend less time and money at the vet. He got heart worm/flee treatment, parvovirus shot, and round worm medicine.

I also found a red circle on his belly yesterday that im freaking out about. I think Im going to take him in today, or I was thinking of putting polysporn on it and seeing what happens first. ***** that Ill have to pay more money when we were just there. GRRR


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441382 tn?1452810569
A puppy who is just a little over 8 weeks old is still working on getting his digestive system into complete working order.  Remember, just a couple of weeks ago he was still nursing off his mom and drinking milk.  Just because they are eating solid food doesn't mean that they have the digestive capabilities of a grown dog or even of an older puppy.  

Has the puppy been wormed?  If he's carrying a heavy parasite load it could account for some of that as well.  If you haven't wormed him yet, get a fecal sample to the vet for examination and have the vet give you a dose of Nemex2 to bring home to give him, and then follow it up with another dose in about three weeks.  If he still has bad gas after that, try switching his food.  Just because you are feeding him the same food all the time doesn't mean he can't develop gas from it.  Just for kicks, what type of food are you feeding?

Also, sometimes puppies and kittens just have vicious farts.  Some of the most foul-smelling "air biscuits" I have ever encountered came out of one of the cutest kittens to ever walk the earth!  She was just a fart machine!  By the time she was about six months old, her digestive system had leveled out and all was well.

Ghilly
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Interesting- I would not have thought of something like that.  I didn't even know dogs could puke up worms from their stomach-  I thought worms set in later in the lower digestive tract. Thanks for posting the info.
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730826 tn?1317943334
Well thank you for your thoughts and advice but the morning of taking him to the vet, he puked up roundworms. I picked them up (poop style in a ziplock) and brought them to the vet hat afternoon. He has medicine to kill them and after lots of barfing and pooping them out, I think we are getting a hold of these nasty guys. He is healthy otherwize, and is getting all his shots underway. Ill consider the pumpkin thing, sounds interesting.
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You could give him Tagamet, (an anti-acid) safe for dogs.  For diarrhea, soft-boiled eggs always work great for my dogs, (eggs are binding, but other soft/easily digestable foods for a few days might also do the trick- such as cottage cheese, macaroni & cheese).  Or, canned pumpkin works for diarrhea- (not the pumpkin pie stuff w/spices...plain canned pumpkin) - feed a couple of tablespoons several times a day, or mix in with food- it adds fiber and will stop diarhea within 24-48 hours.  I give my dogs a probiotic every day- great for digestive tract and overally health.  Also, my dogs love the non-flavored walmart version of pedialyte- it definitely makes them feel better after a bout with the runs, (electrolytes).

Is your dog drinking milk?- that could be the culprit. Make sure to put fresh cold water under his nose often, and encourage him to drink- maybe he's not drinking enough water.
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306455 tn?1288862071
Your puppy may have eaten something it shouldn't have or may just be sick. Have you had the puppy to the vets yet? Usually along with gurggling tummy, will come the diarehea. Some boiled chicken and white rice may help. But if he continues to have a problem, best to get him checked by the vet.
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