Treats for a dog on U/D diet food

[krndhn]

Does anyone out there have a dog on Hills U/D pres. diet food?  My vet put Roxy, my 7 yr. old bichon on this food after having to remove a calcium oxylate stone from her bladder.  These formations cause extreme pain and can only be removed surgically and are very likey to form again.  So to try prevent any future stones forming this is the only food she is allowed to have ... and NO treats.  My other dog GInger, a cavachon,  is young and in trying to train her I need to be able to use training treats.  Does anyone know of any treats that can be safely given to Roxy so she doesn't  whine and feel left out?   She was given a treat or 2  daily until this diagnosis.. and it breaks my heart to see her waiting by the cupboard and whining for her treat for hours and not be able to give her anything except a piece of her diet food.  She loves to chew on rawhide bones and the like, and I want to be able to give her something like that, but want it to be safe for her.  Any suggestions would be welcome from someone who may have the same situation.

[eas1980]

Everything I have read has indicated carrots are a little too high in oxalates to be feeding them as treats. Beware

[maybassett]

doggies love carrots to it's like our chocolate but check the levels first!!! Id do brown rice and ground turkey meat too!!! My dogs love it!!!

[maybassett]

If your baby just had stones and nothing else is wrong u can put apple cider vinegar in her drinking water. It breaks up all stone types even for humans

[maybassett]

my baby has seizures due to his liver. I had to find out the do's and dont's not one vet could tell me what to feed my baby but ud food. Well there was still to much protein and crude fat in it so I had to learn everything even the right meds to give him. The tried all regular meds for it but it didn't help maybe a little but he still had horrible seizures. I now cook his food I give ground turkey meat and brown rice. I feed lots of fruits and veggies, not the ones that'll harm them. Ive done such a great job with him I have vets calling me to c what im doing. I believe your baby will do a lot better with some honey, pure and local. Also apple cider vinegarr. Add about 1/2 cup of it to a half a gallon of water, his drinking water. Start off with a little bit of it in the water until the get use to it slowly add more or u can just try to give by syringe in the mouth. It breaks up stones. U can take it to if u were to get stones. My baby hardly has seizures and no more bladder stones!!! Hope this help it's very scary to go through and I hope your baby does better!!

[wttmh]

When we took on our wire fox terrier in 2010 she was 7 and had already been operated on for struvite bladder stones and was on a dry u/d diet. We have continued with this ever since. We feed her about 140g u/d over 4 meals a day (suits her and us) and I put a tiny amount of our meat or fish in with the biscuits at dinner - 5 x fingertip size pieces - just to relieve the boredom for her of the same food everyday. This keeps her weight at a healthy 9.5kg. We use the dry food as treats (don't think she realises it's her ordinary food!) and for treasure hunts round the house, and she enjoys small pieces of carrot and apple too. If I buy packets of dog treats I make sure they're low in protein (say 15%) and aren't larger than fingertip size. She has had no reccurence of the bladder stones, is quite fit for her age and has great teeth (due to a dry food diet, I understand).

[Patty9097]

I am new here and I am needing advice for my 10 year old Shih Tzu that has just recovered from a calcium oxalate stone surgery (found in her bladder).  She is on the U/D prescription diet (dry).  I want to mix the canned dog food (U/D) with the dry and I will do so as soon as my Vet's office gets more in stock.  My question is...... are there any dog cookies available for this special diet?  I see the recipes that have been posted and I am wondering if these are any good.  My little Annie must be wondering where her cookies are.  She has eaten the dry dog food (mixed with her prior food until she is accustomed to this change) but she doesn't eat much of it.  I have poured low sodium beef bouillon over the food and she has tried it.  Any advice out there for treats?  Thank you.

[rath800]

I would not recommend the potato diet for calcium oxalate stones. They say vitamin c and d contribute to oxalate stones and potatoes are high in vitamin c. I feed my dog low oxalate veggies, meat and rice then put 1/4 cup salt free broth and 1/2 c water over it, then heat for 30 seconds in the microwave. The wetter they will eat their food the better. My dog loves it like soup then the final meal of the day I add 1/2 c. hills u/d dry food for his crunchy cravings. I don't have it down perfect yet, but I'm learning too. I also make treat from Hills u/d wet food. My dog hates the u/d food but he will eat it as treats or with broth over it.

[Cherylskyline]

Sweet potatoes have a high oxalate content. Don't feed to pets prone to calcium oxalate stones.  Before giving any food, you should check to make sure the oxalate content is low.  You can find this info online, but check several lists. Reputable sights like Mayo Clinic or Cleveland Clinic probably have good lists.  Calcium Oxalate stones are commonly the stones that people form, so the same food info for people should apply to your dog also.   Avoid foods with medium or high oxalate content and also keep calcium down in the diet.  Increasing water intake is very important in avoiding stones.  Do some research on how much your dog should have.  We give our Chi-poo (15 lb) 3/4 C. to 1 C. of water twice daily.  I pour it over her canned U/D food and it makes a kind of soup. I have read that as a general rule dogs need 1 oz water per pound body weight per day.

[Cherylskyline]

Sweet potatoes have a high oxalate content. Don't feed to pets prone to calcium oxalate stones.  Before giving any food, you should check to make sure the oxalate content is low.  You can find this info online, but check several lists. Reputable sights like Mayo Clinic or Cleveland Clinic probably have good lists.  Calcium Oxalate stones are commonly the stones that people form, so the same food info for people should apply to your dog also.   Avoid foods with medium or high oxalate content and also keep calcium down in the diet.  Increasing water intake is very important in avoiding stones.  Do some research on how much your dog should have.  We give our Chi-poo (15 lb) 3/4 C. to 1 C. of water twice daily.  I pour it over her canned U/D food and it makes a kind of soup. I have read that as a general rule dogs need 1 oz water per pound body weight per day.

[Lcabell]

My bichon had the calcium oxalate stone surgery in June 2012. She was put on the UD can  diet and she has gained a lot of weight. They said for treats she could have raw carrots and plain Cheerios. The  UD diet is nothing but fat and it didn't work for her. She is having her 2nd surgery tomorrow, the stones are back and not a year and a half later. We have spent tons of money on surgeries and monitoring this situation. My advice, be careful of weight gain because it can cause other problems. None of these calcium oxylate dogs should be on dry dog food. Everyone has stressed can food and dilute it with water if the dogs PH needs it. Good luck!

[Tink511]

my pug just had surgery and had 4 stones removed.  They put her on a mix of Royal Canin dry with 1 tablespoon of Royal Canin Urinary SO Can food mixed with it.  My Vet said NO TREATS but did say I can cut the wet food and make treats by heating oven  to 350 and cutting wet food into the size I prefer and bake for 30 minutes or until the consistancy I prefer.  My girl likes them a little softer so this works for me.  When you are done and they are cool the treats do need to be refrigerated in a baggie.  I made her a few longer stick type ones the look like a little raw hide bone for when I go out for long periods so she thinks she is getting something different.  She seems to enjoy and things she is getting something different then her wet food.

[lotebunny]

Thank you Cinstry,
                              I will give that a try.
                                        lotebunny

[lotebunny]

I have 2 shih-tzu's both have had stones removed,1 dog has the Calcium Oxilate stones and is on UD the other has the Struvite stones and is on CD. Both dogs are very unhappy with their food,Especially the dog on UD.
I have been boiling rice and adding a big dob on each meal. Reading some of the blogs has me worried that even the rice will do them harm . I'm going to try the sweet potato dried for a treat tomorrow,My dog on the UD is drinking more water so that's good.
Rhonda Coles   ***@****

[harley1219]

my yorkie has had these stones and I bake his can food at 350 for 30 minutes, and then refrigerate. I was wondering about rawhide treats, anyone have an answer?

[CINSTRY]

Hello, I had the same problem you do when it comes to treats for dogs on U/D diet.  I did attempt baking treats as others suggsted, but found it easier to freeze them (I was told this also doesn't alter the nutritional value like baking).  I purchased some bone shaped small cookie cutters from Amazon that were pretty inexpensive. I dump out an entire can of wet U/D food, and slice it about 1/4in thick.  Then I cut out as many dog bones as I can and lay them in a container (separate layers with wax paper) and put into the freezer.  Since they are small they fit into Kongs and my dog loves this treat, and it helps as he is a chewer and needs a challenge. I use the food remnants as a topping for his dry food to use it up.  For a training or small treat I use the dry dog food.  

Hope that is helpful for anyone who needs a simple treat for their dog on a restricted diet!

[Richie01]

I also have a 5yr old Bichon on u/d food now after her 3rd surgery 3 weeks ago^0-100 stones...She was on c/d food and they make treats but not for u/d and my Bichon looks for them...frustrating for both of us....

[mari2014]

It is often the protein that needs to be avoided-some dogs cannot process the protein in certain foods, especially animal made protein. Be sure to check with your veterinarian or at least a veterinarian before adding anything to her diet-U/D diets are most often meant to be followed STRICTLY and adding anything can cause crystals/stones to form again. Just want to make sure you don't waste your money on the expensive U/D by adding something that will cause stones to form again :)

[mari2014]

It is often the protein that needs to be avoided-some dogs cannot process the protein in certain foods, especially animal made protein. Be sure to check with your veterinarian or at least a veterinarian before adding anything to her diet-U/D diets are most often meant to be followed STRICTLY and adding anything can cause crystals/stones to form again. Just want to make sure you don't waste your money on the expensive U/D by adding something that will cause stones to form again :)

[Misfits4Me]

All pet supply stores will have some form of these....My favorites are called "Sam's Yams"...However, there are many good ones available instore or online.......These treats are excellent for all dogs.....Good luck and thanks for inquiring..........Karla

[krndhn]

Our Petsmart and also Pet Supply both sell them in the treat section.... my girls both love them.

[treats4me]

I haven't seen the sweet potato chews you are talking about. Where do you find them? Are they in local or do you have to order on-line?

[el_em_en_oh]

We give all our animals raw veggies as treats. Whatever happens to be on sale, we buy. Easy on the bank account, and good for them to boot!

It took a little while for them to take to it, and at first, a few of them turned up their noses (we have 6 big girls), but after a week or 2 of them all being on a diet, the veggies all of sudden became a lot more interesting once their tummies began to growl!

Baby carrots, or full-sized ones cut into 1/4" chunks (or smaller if you have a small dog). Broccoli, cauliflower, green-beans, string-beans, canned yams, canned veggie anything really.

Good luck to you!

[krndhn]

Hi Karla...... thank you sooo much for this info.  Roxy likes her UD diet dry food so I had planned on staying with it, but it seems the recommendations are for wet food.  So I guess I could even try that intead of dry, or mix both together.   It's the treats.... just something crunchy ... and the suggestions there for certain brands of treats is definitely what I will look into.  My vet gave no suggestions at all.  I didn't even know what ingredients to stay away from, but according to this info it is the grains.  Good to know.  Thanks again!
Karen

[Misfits4Me]

Hi Karen.....Found these recipes for you in case you want to add some selection to your girl's diet......Karla

Calcium Oxalate Stones;  Dog Food Recipes oxalates:

Hello, Yes, I can help with a Calcium oxalate diet for your little dog....
The KEY is Wet food and adding some x-tra water.

LOW PROTEIN DIETS  
( Thanks to Lowchen's )

http://www.lowchensaustralia.com/health/diet2.htm

Low protein diets play a role in the treatment of several conditions, such as kidney disease, advanced liver disease, and some forms of dominance aggression.

[If your pet has been prescribed a low protein diet], but doesn’t like any of the commercial preparations, you might consider trying one of these home-cooked recipes.


EGG & POTATO DIET
(low-protein, low-phosphorous, high-potassium, normal sodium) for Dogs

1 egg, large, cooked

3 cups potato, boiled with skin

1 tablespoon chicken fat

( *THE (1 1/2) CALCIUM CARB AND THE 1/2 NuVET vitamin is correct for a dog under 10 lbs )

1½ calcium carbonate tablets (600 milligrams calcium)

½ multiple-mineral tablet ** ( NuVET below)


THIS IS ENOUGH FOR 1 DAY OF AN 18 POUND DOG'S NEEDS:

Provides 600 kilocalories, 15.1 grams protein, 18.5 grams fat. Supports caloric needs of an 18-pound dog.

Provides phosphorus at 53 percent, potassium at 322 percent, sodium at 114 percent of dogs daily needs.

TO reduce the Salt - take away the chicken fat....

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1/2 to 1 NuVET plus wafer per day for all dogs on home-made foods or commercial diets:
Order your NuVET here:  http://www.nuvet.com/81098
Tell them you are working with PET Nurse Marie and some home-made special recipes.  ( use Discount code 81098) when you call in : NOT sold in stores;   1-800-474-7044
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CHICKEN AND POTATO DIET  ( LOW SALT )***************
(low protein low phosphorus, high potassium, low sodium) for Dogs

¼ cup cooked chicken breast

3 cups potato, boiled with skin

2 tablespoons chicken fat

1 ½ calcium carbonate tablets (600 milligrams calcium)

½ multiple vitamin-mineral tablet
( NuVET supplement vitamins)
SEE order link Above*

THIS is enough for a 22 POUND Dog per Day :

Provides 689 kilocalories, 18.9 grams protein, 26.8 grams fat. Supports caloric needs of a 21-22 pound dog
Provides phosphorus at 45 percent, potassium at 301 percent, sodium at 54 percent of a dog's daily needs.

PLEASE only use GRAIN free treats-
INNOVA EVO and WEllness CORE make a nice Grain free treat.
There is also a brand called NO GRAINERS - very good treats.


HOPE this helps - MUCH better than the Awful HILL's RX stuff...
YUCK - MOST dogs don't like the HIlls Rx or Science Diet.


BEST wishes...

Marie Peppers LPN MA
Ask the VET Nurse
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******  The Calcium Carb. tablet is a regular Human "Tums".