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My father has an 8 year old shitz zu with skin allergies, her face gets scaly red and yeasty,, vet has done scraping and has come back with no significant allergies,,, flares up for a month or two then goes away,, hes tired of putting her on prednisone all the time,,,, any help or suggestions, thanks debo1959
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462827 tn?1333168952
This is from Dogfood Advisor.com: Please read this......Karla


Kibbles ‘n Bits dry dog food earns the Advisor’s lowest rating of one star.

The Kibbles ‘n Bits product line lists eight dry dog foods. Yet although they appear to be designed for adult animals, we found no AAFCO nutritional adequacy statements for these products on the Kibbles ‘n Bits website.

■Kibbles ‘n Bits Original Chicken and Beef
■Kibbles ‘n Bits Wholesome Medley
■Kibbles ‘n Bits Homestyle Chicken
■Kibbles ‘n Bits Homestyle Beef
■Kibbles ‘n Bits Balanced Bites
■Kibbles ‘n Bits Brushing Bites
■Kibbles ‘n Bits ‘n Beefy Bits
■Kibbles ‘n Bits Mini Bits
Kibbles ‘n Bits Original Savory Chicken and Beef dry dog food was selected to represent the others in the line for this review.


Kibbles 'n Bits Original Savory Chicken and Beef
Dry Dog Food

Estimated Dry Matter Nutrient Content

Ingredients: corn, soybean meal, beef and bone meal, ground wheat flour, animal fat (BHA used as preservative), corn syrup, wheat middlings, water sufficient for processing, animal digest (source of chicken flavor), propylene glycol, salt, hydrochloric acid, potassium chloride, caramel color, sorbic acid (used as a preservative), sodium carbonate, minerals (ferrous sulfate, zinc oxide, manganous oxide, copper sulfate, calcium iodate, sodium selenite), choline chloride, vitamins (vitamin E supplement, vitamin A supplement, niacin supplement, D-calcium pantothenate, riboflavin supplement, pyridoxine hydrochloride, thiamine mononitrate, vitamin D3 supplement, folic acid, biotin, vitamin B12 supplement), calcium sulfate, titanium dioxide, yellow 5, yellow 6, red 40, BHA (used as a preservative), dl methionine

Fiber (estimated dry matter content) = 4.9%

Red items when present indicate controversial ingredients

The first ingredient in this dog food is corn. Now, contrary to what you may have heard, corn isn’t necessarily a bad ingredient.

On the other hand, although there’s no way to know for sure here, the corn used in making many pet foods can be similar to the kind used to make feed for livestock.

And that can sometimes be problematic.

What’s more, corn is commonly linked to canine food allergies1.

For these reasons, we rarely consider corn a preferred component in any dog food.

The second ingredient is soybean meal. Soybean meal is actually a useful by-product. It’s what remains of soybeans after all the oil has been removed.

Soybean meal contains 48% protein. However, compared to meat, this is an inferior plant-based protein. So, it’s important to allow for this boosting effect as we judge the meat content of this food.

The third item lists beef and bone meal… a dry rendered product from (beef) tissues, including bone, exclusive of blood, hair, hoof, horn, hide trimmings, manure, stomach and rumen contents”.2

Beef and bone meal has a lower digestibility than most other meat meals.

Scientists believe this decreased protein quality may be due to the ingredient’s higher ash and lower essential amino acid content.3

On the brighter side, beef and bone meals are meat concentrates and contain nearly 300% more protein than fresh meat.

In any case, beef and bone meal is not considered a better quality dog food ingredient.

The fourth item is wheat. Wheat is nutritionally similar to corn and subject to corn’s same shortcomings and problems.

The fifth ingredient is animal fat. Animal fat is a generic by-product of “rendering”… the same high-temperature process used to make meat meals.

Since there’s no mention of a specific animal, this stuff could come from almost anywhere… restaurant grease, slaughterhouse waste, diseased cattle… even euthanized pets.

And to make matters worse, this fat is preserved with BHA… a suspected carcinogen (cancer-causing agent).

We don’t consider generic animal fat a quality ingredient.

The sixth ingredient is corn syrup. Corn syrup consists mainly of glucose… a sugar capable of causing an unhealthy rise in a dog’s blood sugar.

The seventh ingredient is wheat middlings… commonly known as “wheat mill run”. Though it may sound fairly wholesome, wheat mill run is actually a inexpensive by-product of cereal grain processing.

In reality, middlings are nothing more than milling dust and floor sweepings.

After water, we find animal digest. Animal digest is a chemically hydrolyzed concoction of unspecified body parts… from unspecified animals. This product is usually sprayed onto the surface of a dry kibble to improve its taste.

This Kibbles ‘n Bits dry product contains the controversial food moisturizer, propylene glycol. Propylene glycol has been banned by the FDA for use in making cat food.

But it can still be found to this day in lower quality dog foods.

We’re always disappointed to find artificial coloring in any dog food.

Coloring is used to make the product more appealing to you… not your dog. After all, do you really think your dog cares what color his food is?

From here, the list goes on to include a number of other items.

But to be realistic, ingredients located this far down the list (other than nutritional supplements) are not likely to have much of an effect on the overall rating of this product.

With two notable exceptions…

First, we find no evidence of probiotics… friendly bacteria applied to the surface of the kibble after processing.

Lastly, the minerals listed here do not appear to be chelated. And that can make them more difficult to absorb. Non-chelated minerals are usually associated with lower quality dog foods.

Kibbles ‘n Bits Dry Dog Food
The Bottom Line

Judging by its ingredients alone, Kibbles ‘n Bits appears to be a below-average dry dog food.

But ingredient quality by itself cannot tell the whole story. We still need to estimate the product’s meat content before determining a final rating.

The dashboard displays a dry matter protein reading of 23%, a fat level of 10% and an estimated carbohydrate content of 59%.

As a group, the brand features an average protein content of 24% and an average fat level of 10%. Together, these figures suggest a carbohydrate portion size of 58% for the overall product line.

Below-average protein and fat. And above-average carbohydrates when compared to a typical dry dog food.

Yet when you consider the protein-boosting effect of the soybean meal, this looks like the profile of a kibble containing only a modest amount of meat.

Bottom line?

Kibbles ‘n Bits dry dog food is primarily a plant-based kibble using only a modest amount of beef and bone meal as its main source of animal protein… thus earning the brand one star.

Not recommended.

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462827 tn?1333168952
Oh God......You just answered your own question!  It's the Kibbles & Bits!  It's one of the worst foods on the planet.....The Vet Food will be a little better, but not much!  It's expensive and full of crap! This is NOT what she needs....But again, a tad bit better than what she's eating now!

Let me know if I can help you further...Thanks for being concerned enough to help your dad's dog.....I personally appreciate that!!    Karla
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what are probiotics for dogs,,,, we live in canada,,,
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thanks for your answer, I'll tell him to get rid of the kibbles n bits,,, the only other thing is she gets chew eez,,, those long thin rawhide with baste on them she licks them every nite? he has bought vet food yesterday will try just vet food,,,
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462827 tn?1333168952
Hi Debo......Please read what I just posted on another thread titled: "Yeasty Ears". The part about the food will apply to your father's dog, also...It's very important!

Another thought: If your dad uses PLASTIC bowls for food or drinking....He needs to get rid of them...Only stainless steel or glass! Facial allergic reactions are often attribituted to plastic!

Good luck and let me know if you need anything else.....I'll be glad to help you....Karla
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