Member Comments are provided by individuals and reflect their personal opinions only. Under NO circumstances should you act on any advice or opinion posted in this forum.  ALWAYS check with your personal physician before taking any action regarding your health! MedHelp International and our partners, sponsors and affiliates have no obligation to monitor any comments posted on this site, or the content and/or accuracy of such exchanges. MedHelp International does not endorse the views of any user.
 | 

Possible Dilantin toxicity?

by poppy1949, Apr 05, 2009 11:12PM
I am 60 and was diagnosed with complex partial seizures when I was 42.  An MRI at that time showed an old brain injury in the left temporal lobe (probably due to a car accident when I was 18).  At the time of diagnosis, I was starting to go through menopause.  It took some time to become stable on Dilantin (generic) at 450 mg and I had a testing level of about 12-14 for years.

Since last August I have had two surgeries, including a total hysterectomy. In October 2008 my Dilantin level was 19.9.

In January 2009, I was diagnosed as severely deficient in Vitamin D (D2 was less than 4; D3 was 8).  

In February 2008, I started having some "spells" that weren't quite seizures but did feel like I was going to faint but I didn't.  I felt like the bottom just totally dropped out of my energy and it happened quickly. I would have several of these a week.  Since then, I have had a new MRI (normal), and MRA (slightly enlarged -- 2mm -- left artery), and an EEG.  While I was having the EEG, I had one of these spells.  I told the technician at the time that this is what I was talking about.  The neurologist said the episode on the EEG showed I fell asleep.  He refused to order a new Dilantin level check.  He said if I wasn't having seizures, I was within range and did an eye movement test and said I wasn't toxic.  

I have been on the generic Dilantin for years rather than the name brand.  I was taking 400 mg one night and 500 mg the next night for an average of 450 mg.  

My nurse practitioner ordered another Dilantin level check when I had another spell at their offices.  My blood level was 17 at that time and I had taken 200 mg that morning.  At my third appointment my neurologist put me on the name brand Dilantin and reduced the dosage to 400 mg.  I am finally starting to feel better by degrees.

My questions:  
1. Could I have become toxic on the generic Dilantin even though I was within range?
2.  Some of the information I have looked at on the internet shows ranges as high as 40-50.  It was my understanding that a level of 10-20 is preferred.  What is correct?
3.  Could the lack of estrogen or Vitamin D have contributed to what was going on?  If so, how?

Thank you so much.
Member Comments (4)

by KixNgo, Apr 06, 2009 12:16AM
your lack of vitamin D can cause extreme fatigue.. I am 44, and have been on dilantin name brand, the generic didnt work, for about 11yrs as adult and was on it for 5 yrs as a child(my stepmom took me off of it thinking i didnt need it). but my new neuro is weaning me off dilantin to keppraXR, because i was having what felt like chest seizures, awake the whole time, but would experience severe pain in my chest, that would start off subtile and peak at about 20-30 min after start, was told this was side affect of being on dilantin for too long, i supose its possible the vitamin D deficiency could have added to your problems, Dilantin does deplete vitamin D as well as vitamin B's.  I take D supplements b/c i'm allergic to dairy, as well as I am on Blood thinners, so i cannot eat greens hardly at all.. so getting my D's isnt always the easiest.

by brainpain, Apr 06, 2009 06:16AM
To: poppy
hi poppy, i have been taking dilantin for about 20yrs. my level stayed constant and never had problems. when the generic came out i took thosen within 1 week i started getting lite headed and feel like i was going to pass out. i had a grandmal seizure within 2 weeks of taking the generics. my neuro said the generic dident have every thing the name brand has. i cant take generics only name brand. my level was so low on the generics . i honestly believe the generics are useless. i do take 400mg dilantin every nite before bedtime and have for about 5yrs.

by poppy1949, Apr 06, 2009 09:00AM
Thanks for the feedback . . .  this is useful.  

Currently I have to fight with my insurance company to get them to cover the name brand Dilantin -- it's not on their formulary.  I'm also wondering if I should be switched to a different drug.  

After it was determined that I was so deficient in Vitamin D, I was put on a massage dose of 50,000 units per week for eight weeks to get my level up.  Could that be toxic as well?  Does anyone have experience with that?

Poppy

by poppy1949, Apr 06, 2009 09:01AM
Oops!  So much for checking spelling.  That should be a "massive dose" -- not "massage dose."  
Related discussions
Post Comment
To
Comment
Post Comment
Recent Activity
starbunny is hoping tomorrow will be better
rudyhorse commented on How much longer.........
7 hrs ago
brainpain is feeling better!
Starting Keppra soon for Seizures
Nov 19 by rudyhorse
peggy64 commented on Still missing Chloe
Nov 19
peggy64 commented on My 6 days in the psyc...
Nov 18
peggy64 commented on Another Problem with ...
Nov 18
peggy64 commented on THINKING
Nov 18
RSS Expert Activity
Snoring As Your Internal Smoke Alar...
15 hrs ago by Steven Y Park, MD
Raw Pet Food Diets: Common Sense
Nov 21 by Arnold L Goldman, D.V.M.
Long-term Nasal Saline Irrigation: ...
Nov 20 by Steven Y Park, MD
Community Members