With regard to the multifocal IOLs, such as Restor and Rezoom, I am trying to determine what is meant by the nighttime haloing effect that is reported by some on this forum. Also the accommodating IOL, Crystalens, does it have the same or similar effect?
I have found a website that has simulations of various
visualVisual acuity test conditions including halos and starbursts. This is the address:
http://www.visionsimulations.com/
A question to those of you who have a multifocal or accommodating IOL and are experiencing night vision problems:
Is the simulation at the above site accurate or are you seeing something other than what is depicted there?
Any information about this would be appreciated.
Thanks
Richard
Maybe even multiple rings corresponding to the rings of the multifocal IOL.
If this kind of "sphere" haloing is just as common with the crystalens then I guess that would also apply to the regular monofocal lenses?
I wonder about the monofocal ones because I have also been considering monovision using the regular monofocal IOLs (combining far for the dominant eye with middle for the nondominant eye and using reading glasses for near).
I thought the crystalens was just a monofocal that could move, to a limited degree, in response to the cilliary muscle.
I thought that would mean it would have the same glare and halo characteristics as a fixed monofocal.
But are the optics of the lens also different resulting in more glare and halo problems than a monofocal lens?
Thank you very much for your responses, this is helping me a lot.
Speaking for myself, and I have astigmatism, I do see the halos shown like those at the website that you have provided. I do not know if other people see what I do, but I will try to give you a understanding of what I see with the multifocal lens,( at night only.) If the light source is horizontal, I get the soft halo effect. However, if the light source is vertical, I get large circles around the light source with spokes in them. I do not know if people that do not have astigmatism see this as I do. The circles are more annoying to me than the halos. However, I have adjusted to them, (for the most part), and am hoping they will decrease when I have my other eye done. I feel that for me, the advantages outweigh the lively night show. But I do not do much night driving. And everyone is different. And what is right for one person, may not be right for another. And what one person sees at night, may not be what another sees. Some people do not even see any night abberations. I like being able to see distance, intermediate, and near. And so for me, I will live with this trade off. Hope that helps you. Kathy
Which lens do you have and are you going to get the same lens in the other the eye?
Crystallens is a monofocal optic that moves so you will not have as much of the effect except that it is a smaller optic in the 4-5mm range so you can get some edge effect. The problem is that it does not move that much so you can give up the near which is a downside for what you have to go through in the initial stages of implantation.
The others have multiple images. So at night while you are driving and using distance, the near is defocused but will pick up the halo effect. Astigmatism exacerbates this effect so the less you have the better. When both eyes are done, the effect lessens as you have the same system in each eye. You also adapat over time with neuro adaptation so the effect is minimized and you do not notice it as much. Some not at all and others more. Just depends on the person. But I have talked with surgeons and optometrists that have had the Array implanted for over five years and say that it is amazing how it continues to get better.
There are people from all walks of life with different jobs and hobbies that have theses lenses. I also know of some pilots and they are very happy. The pilots I know have the Array and now the ReZoom due to intermediate importance of the instrument panel etc. As you can expect, there are some patients that you would think would not be happy and they end up happy and others that you would think would be dead on and are not as happy.
I truly believe that attitude and personality plays into it and realistic expectations. In the retrospective quality of life studies studies that were done, multifocal patients overall were happier than monofocal patients but that is not to say that monofocal patients are unhappy.
Read your explanation of what causes nightime halos, but what causes the indoor and dim light secondary ghost image of the primary image that causes everything to be blurry?
Like KD, I am seeing a distinct very bright light ring with inner spokes or something like that around all pinpoint lights like headlights and auras around all other light sources.
Of these aberrations, the ghosting is by far the worst since it's everywhere 24hrs except daytime outdoor when my pupil is small. You can accustom yourself to the halos especially if your other eye doesn't see them and can dominate.
My Doc gave me Pilocarpine Hydrochloride drops to use to try and narrow the pupil size permantely and eliminate all of the above.
It's effect works very well short term due to the pinhole effect. No ghosts or halos and 20/20 chart vision. Do you think it will accomplish his goal?
If it doesn't, at least I'm getting a break for now.
Just research as much as you can to decide what lens is best for you.
If I could have gotten by with just wearing glasses to read, I would have gone with the traditional lens. But my intermediate vision is important to me. And I was told that to arms length would not be clear for me with the traditional lens.. So, for me, I would rather have the night halos, and circles, than to lose my intermediate vision. But some people may get by with just readers. I did also want to tell you that my halos are not as large as the ones in the website that you supplied. I have soft halos around a horizonal light source. It is smaller than the light source and soft. No problem at all for me. The circles that I have from vertical light source are much larger than the light source and very thin with spokes in them. I have come to live with them as for me, it is worth the trade off because I do not do alot of night driving. Also, I have the circles on anything that reflects, at night, such as parked cars, and the reflectors on the roads. (At night only.) Important to know if you do a lot of night driving. Then again, you may have none of my night abberations because I have astigmatism. Just research as much as you can about the lenses, and get the very best doctor you can. When I see the circles at night, I just remember the thick coke bottle glasses my mom had to wear after cataract surgery, and it seems to put things in perspective for me. All in all, I have great vision in my left eye. And have learned to live with the lively night show. Best of luck to you Richard!
I have also come across some articles and studies on the internet that compare the advantages and disadvantages of the various lenses.
And also some information about mixing and matching lenses.
Here are some that I have found helpful
http://www.eyeworld.org/ewweeksupplementarticle.php?id=104
http://www.eyeworld.org/ewweeksupplementarticle.php?id=105
http://www.lachmanconsulting.com/EyeQRpt1.pdf
http://www.eyeworld.org/supplements/2006%20AMO_SF%20DAILY%20MAY%20INSERT.pdf
http://www.ascrs.org/Meetings/Annual-Symposium/06am_PhyHandouts/19-103.doc
http://www.crstoday.com/PDF%20Articles/1005/CRST10005_supp.pdf
Related to that last one, the archive at Cataract & Refractive Surgery Today (http://www.crstoday.com) has a lot of information that I am trying to go through.
As I recall on another thread, you had a crystalens exchanged for a ReZoom. I also thought you might have your IOL decentered. If indeed this is the case, this would explain your ghosting day and night. This is different from the normal halos or fuzz as some people describe as associated with ReZoom (and ReSTOR to some extent.) When your Pilocarpine is working and making your pupil smaller, it cuts down on the halos/ghosting from the decentered IOL, I believe.
Follow up exam by another Doc reported it was perfectly centered but slightly tilted. He said that could be causing the ghosts and halos, but didn't really know for sure.
If I knew for sure the tilting was causing the problem, I would probably look into another surgery to straighten it even with the risks involved in a 4th surgery. To assume that risk without knowing it will fix it is difficult.
Using Pilocarpine every 4 hrs or so eliminates the aberrations, but they come back even worse when it wears off. Perhaps using it will prevent any possible future visual adjustment, but the short term relief is welcome.
Like others, I'm searching for answers, so I can get on with my life. I even called the mfg of Rezoom for opinion input, but they turned my inquiry down with "we can't give medical advice" after initially telling me they would look into it.
I am getting the impression that most Drs. and IOL mfgs. are more concerned with patient turnover than patient satisfaction. The lack of honest in-depth pro and con consumer info about such a common surgery is astounding, and results in Drs. making their patient's decisions.
The help you and other professionals who frequent this forum give is an exception to this statement and is greatly appreciated.
K-D Related to your descriptions of your nighttime vision with your Rezoom lens, have you been in other darkened situations since you have had the lens put in? I am particularly curious about what people experience in a movie theater or in a restaurant with a darkened atmosphere. Darkened situations other than just being outside and/or driving at night.
In a restaurant, I see circles around candles or lights. But reading the menu is great in low lightening. All about trade offs I guess. Hope I answered your question.
6-21-06. So far no clear vision and the starburst & halos are
so severe, I absolutely could not drive at night. Have done it
on familiar streets...4 X. I am concerned as my other
eye is 20/400....legally blind, and I am wondering if I could
count on Healing with time. I can be happy to wait 6 months
if I-DO-GET-BETTER. Comment for the subject.
Yes to huds point--> There are halos with both ReSTOR and Rezoom. However, the halos have nothing to do with the add power in the lens. It has to do with the continous optical system of a refractive optic.It is not harder for the brain to defocus a ReZoom vs ReSTOR halo. It depends on other factors and yes, comparitively speaking our patients that have ReSTOR in one eye and ReZoom in the other eye do notice a difference in the halo. They also notice sustainable differences in how each eye functions independently of the other. That is exactly why more and more patietns are getting the mixing of these premium IOLs or blended vision.
AMO is making a 4 diopter add diffractive optic "Tecnis multifocal". It has been in the works before ReSTOR was approved. It has already been available in Europe for a year.
Alcon, the maker of ReSTOR is making a +2.50 add ReSTOR because fewer docs are using ReSTOR now as the intermediate vision is a problem which was first noticed last year, and then the waxy distance vision issue came up. Over the past 4 months or so this waxy distance vision has been the catalyst to make the blended vision phenomenon accelerate. At first, Alcon said that only the AMO doctors were doing this. Now as Alcon investigators and loyalists have stepped upm uch to Alcon's shock and said this is the real deal, Alcon is making it's own changes. Alcon is planning to offer blended vision with their current ReSTOR and the new ReSTOR. It is a bifocal system so that is why there is a "start and stop" in the visual system. The near vision is fantastic. The intermediate vision slows down or stops. The distance varies from patient to patient. This means there is validity to blended vision.
The continuous vision of the refractive true multifocal optic ReZoom provides the near (not as strong as ReSTOR), better intermediate than ReSTOR, and excellent distance vision because of the refractive distance dominant center.
The blended vision thing is a curiousity for the surgeons that have not tried it, but more and more have and once they do, they see the success.
I agree folks, do not make your decisions on these anecdotes, but experience is a great teacher for us all. Keep a diary of your tasks, activities, and your desires then have your surgeon check your pupil size in bright and dim light, as well as a thorough eye exam and together the two of you make your choices of ALL viable options.
Since hud says he is a financial guy and not an Alcon employee then he may not know that some of my colleagues (other employees of eye surgeons) that teach courses for both AMO and Alcon are being flown into Alcon headquarters to have a week long meeting on blended vision this month. Mixing and matching IOLs as well as the explanation of the new ReSTOR with lower add coming out.
This is why it is best to go to someone in your area that keeps up with the latest info because it changes constantly. All of these IOLs work well if you know which one is the best fit for you.
I see distance and intermedite very good, I can read computer screen at 24 in very well. I can't read mag or paper at normal distance. I see halos at night only so far and not so bad. i see a shadow at outer corner of eye...like an arc which i thought was outer edge of lens but he says its reflection and not outer edge. Its not bad and i can get used to it. Viewing has not changed at all since surgery. Distance now at 20/30 and close about the same. He says viewing close will probably get better when other eye is done 8/2...we will see. So far the worst is that I need readers to read...I was hoping to not need them. I guess I am fortunate as compared to others who have had trouble . No complaints and will use Rezoom in other eye. Hope this helps someone.
Seems like the bottom line is that for people that want reading over computor, Restor is the choice. And Computor( intermediate) over reading, Rezoom seems to be the one. And then there is the Crystalens, which has advantages also. That is why it is so important for the doctor to listen to the patient's priorities. There are tradeoffs with IOL presently. In the future, I am sure there will not be. Still how fortunate that we have the choices that we do. It sure beats the old coke bottle glasses that people had to wear in the past.
If you're interested in this lens, you can find out more by using any of the search engines.
I say this because the Tecnis multifocal is built on the same 1st generation diffractive optic that 3m developed in the 1980's. The 3M design was a full-optic diffractive surface with 3.5D add. The 3M studies showed a 59% spectacle-freedom rate. Alcon bought 3M VisionCare for this technology, and refined it by apodizing the diffractive component, and limiting the diffractive portion to the center of the optic and bumping the add to 4D. The latter two modifications has improved the specatacle-freedom result to 90%, while reducing the unwanted visual aberrations. Alcon patented these changes, and then released the rights to full-optic diffractive implants. Pfizer/Pharmacia acquired that technology to get in the game, and then Pfizer dumped Pharmacia's eye business to AMO. They are stuck with this old technology as they are far along the FDA approval path. The only modifications that Tecnis made to the 3M design is they bumped the add to 4D (like ReSTOR), and made the optic aspheric (which will give a small incremental benefit with large pupils).
Also, when you pick up something to see close, everyone, young and old, has a pupillary constriction response. Restor is physiologic in this way , giving near and far focus in medium to small pupil scenarios. But when the pupil enlarges, a gradual blending of the focal points occurs, shifting a higher proportion of light energy to the distance focus. This helps as you bump around your bedroom at night. I hope that helps.
You are the best. I will go with the Restor lens and let you know how it works. Only one last thing, for now, I probably have large pupils (trouble with sunlight since my teens). Would this in anyway be a counterindication for the Restor lens?
Thanks,
s.
After reading this thread, the description of your halos is exactly the same as what
I am seeing.....it' good to know that is more common w/astigmatism......I think that using
a contact in my right eye helps this condition and also acceptance of the "trade offs"
w/Rezooms vs. other multi-focals.
Did your Dr. talk about trying to correct the astigmatism? I dont remember how
severe mine is.....I think alot......the same question I asked in another thread is
about the suture that is still in my eye......that must be related to astigmatism....
did you have a suture?
I really do not know why you have a suture. I am sure someone with opthamology knowledge will answer that for you. I know that before the procedure that they genereally do now, sutures were always used. My parents had sutures. I did not have a suture. But I am sure there was a reason why the doc thought it would be best in your case. Each eye is different. I believe I could have laser to try and reduce the halos but I just do not want to take the change of changing the clear vision that I now have. Trade offs is the word. I still have slight edge reflection of the implant that seems to be getting less. And I have slight glare which is removed by moving my head. That also seems to be decreasing. (All in dark only) . But as for the halos, well guess that is the price I have to pay for wanting to put on my mascara without glasses. ;-)