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My advice: Do NOT use a wrinkle cream! They contain all kinds of ingredients to help exfoliate (retionoids, AHA/BHA acids....) and chances are great that you can not tolerate them. They will burn your lids!! Make it worse.
You're 24 so IMO you really don't need them. The wrinkling you're experiencing is an inflammation, not due to aging skin. However, if your lids continue to be inflamed and you use steroids to relieve the information, you could end up like me with permanently saggy, wrinkled lids. I'm going to be 50 so some of my wrinkling is due to age but a great deal is due to my lid problems, the stretching and steroids.
Find a emollient balm or cream that you can tolerate and use it instead of a "wrinkle cream". You can simply use your facial moisturizer on your eyes IF this wasn't what caused the problem in the first place. Can you tell me what your skin regimen is? Makeup? Some mineral makeup can cause a flareup. I can not use Bare Minerals but can use Everyday Minerals with no problem.
Again, I just found EGYPTIAN MAGIC (balm) and I'm LOVING IT! It is very greasy but I slap that on my lids at night, and dab it on lightly during the day and I can honestly say that this is working BETTER then NEEM for me right now. I've just gone back to using RENOVA (retinoid) on my face which I could no do for almost 2 years because of the problem on my lids.This week I cautiously put it on my lower lids and layered it with the EM with no problem at all!!!
Egyptian Magic is sold at Whole foods as well and I have replaced using my Dr. H eye balm with it. It about $32 for a giant tub that will last forever!
Good luck!
A few questions--
Do you use the Egyptian Magic with or without Neem oil?
Do you find that once you are healed you are able to go without any neem or Egyptian Magic for a period of days?
Thanks again! Bye! Creative123
When you have time I suggest that you visit the "skin care board" at this site "MakeupAlley" and ask about a substitute for your Differin if you continue to have problems with it. These ladies are incredibly skin care wise and helpful. Also, you will find the product reviews enormously helpful. I never put a thing on my face or body without checking here first.
http://www.makeupalley.com/
Good luck! I really hope that you get some relief from this awful problem. Please let us know how the EM worked for you.
http://www.makeupalley.com/product/showreview.asp/ItemId=84453/Egyptian_Magic_Healing_Cream/Unlisted_Brand/Skincare_-_Body
Natalie
kkrocks: 1st,@#$(*&^$%#%*#! Damn you and your fab skin!! :D You're one luck gal!
The only other advice I would have is to find a more gentler to remove your eye makeup right now. I have found that ANY rubbing will cause a flareup on my lids. A washcloth would produce horrible results on mine. If you don't want to use soap and water (I use L'Occitane Honey Bee bars) then I would suggest Huggies non scented, hypo-allergenic baby wipes. GENTLY. Maybe put a bit of EM on before your remove your makeup with the wipes to give a bit more slip so that there is less tugging.
I hope everyone has a less irritated eyes and great day!
KKrocks--I'm so sorry you have another flareup. Believe me, I feel for you. I'm wondering if it is not the eyeliner because one eye has no reaction. On removing makeup, I've been able to use Shu Uemera's oil cleanser without any problem. I don't need to rub, it takes all mascara and everything off. You put it on a dry face, gently massage it into mascara--I can leave it on for a bit if I'm wearing something stubborn, then rinse with water. There are other oil cleanser's out there, but I've been using Shu's for years so I stayed with that. It doesn't cause acne, it actually is very effective for clearing out pores.
Have a good day! :)
creative - thank you!! I agree it must not be the make-up at this point because, yes, my right eye (other than some itchiness) has remained unaffected. Thanks for the tip on the Shu Uemera's oil cleanser, I might give it a try - I just HATE washing my face with soap, it dries my face out more than I'm used to so perhaps an oil-based cleanser is a good idea for me.
I just can't believe how much higher maintenance this whole ordeal has made me. I used to just use water and a towel and some lotion... now I've got product out the wazoo and I'm always in the bathroom forever trying to take care of my eye :( so depressing!! But y'all have truly helped me, I would rather be high maintenance at this point than have to live with waking up to a swollen eye-lid every morning... *sigh*
We should make up a name for our affliction - since it seems we know more about it than any doctors thus far... we should get to name it!! (Just a thought)
Thanks again!!
After speaking with two more doctors (and reading up on things), I'm trying to focus on two things: 1) stop contact with the irritant; and 2) heal the skin from the last flare-up (realizing that this could take weeks or months, using Egyptian Magic or Neem, rather than steroids). I hope I've isolated the irritant. That is the most frustrating part -- not knowing if what I am doing will prevent flare-ups in the future.
I don't think that my condition is due to any internal problem that scary internet sites refer to--the ophthalmologist was convinced it was a contact allergy. *crossing my fingers* It's hard to be patient! My very best to all of you!!
I think if I had to name it, because I'm pretty sure mine is an allergy to something as well (and it seems like the majority of people on here are having similar allergic reactions), I would call it... Palpebral Hypersensitivity ^_^ I am so technical haha!! Really just means having super-overly-sensitive eyelids *sigh*
I hope everyone has an itch/swell-free weekend!!
I keep white vinegar in the shower as well and periodically rinse hair and body with vinegar and water. It is a natural disenfectent and makes sure all of the soap is gone. Great for sunburns as well (stings like heck at first and then no more burn).
Let me know how you do.
2. I've noticed a couple things... Egyptian Magic (EM) works WONDERS on my upper eyelids but when I use it on my lower lids they still puff a bit in the morning (not a full-on swell) but puffier than when I use Neem oil. The way I got mine to stop swelling the fastest was: I used Neem oil and EM at night (EM on upper, Neem on lower) then Neem lotion only on my lower lids during the day and no eye liner -- no eye liner was key for me because it just causes a lot less contact with your eyes in general - less washing less touching.
3. Find the irritant... it's still there somewhere if it's happening - I thought my all-organic no-fragrance soap would do the trick... nope!! I had to get completely glycerin soap (the most bare-bones soap ever). And my eye did get better while I was still using the irritant soap so it's tricky!!
4. Keep hydrated - I use lotion SO much more now than I used to - I used to use it everyday at least once a day. Now I use like 2-3 times - in the morning, during lunch, and before bed... keeping the flakes moisturized really helps them heal - especially the upper lids.
5. Are you stressed? I think stress might have worn me down a couple times and made my swelling/itching/etc worse.
6. TEST one thing at a time. I re-introduced eye liner last Friday - because I hate dealing with the swelling in the morning before work... so Saturday I was not swollen and SO HAPPY. This Friday and I am going to re-introduce my FULL eye make-up that I used to wear and see how it turns out on Saturday. *finger's crossed*
7. Don't get upset over set-backs! I only had my one eye swelling for the longest time and I got it to stop... then it swelled again and I was upset... Then... my other eye started swelling for the first time and I was ready to just give up... but I kept with my regimen - do it EVERY DAY... it's the only way - you can't slack off - and it WILL GET BETTER. Of course all of this maintenance weans over time - now I only use Neem oil and EM at night no Neem lotion during the day - and I don't have to moisturize my upper lids more than 1-2 times per day - it eventually heals and goes back to almost normal but you should still be careful even when you think it's gone.
8. Good luck and let me know if I can help as I know how horrible this affliction is and I've found a lot of help on this forum so I want to give back :)
I hope my info helps you.
I am so happy I have stumbled across this site!
In the summer this problem starts, in winter my eyes are fine. I wake up on a summer morning and find that my eyelids have swollen up, and my skin looks really winkley and they itch like a *****.
I've been having this problem since last year. I even phoned in sick at work because I could not bear to go out looking all puffed up. :(
I don't think make up is the problem as this only happens in the summer.
I've not had it this year as summer is just beginning now in the UK. So I've now started using Dove sensitive bar to remove my make up now. Do you guys think this would help? Also, I use Simple eye moisturiser. I find it does not moisturise my eyes much. At night I use Vitamin E oil on my eyelids, it's very oily but it moisturises my eyelid.
Any more tips guys? I might look into buying Neem oil. Thanks for your help!
I am a 23 year old normal male. I don't wear make up, I have never had allergies. But I do have red itchy dry eyelids and nothing seems to help. I have tried a lot of things and nothing works except hydrocortizone cream. I know that stuff is really bad to put on your eyelids but it makes the flare up go right away. I don't know what to do I just want it to be gone.
I didn't see any response on here to someone putting hydrocortizone on their eyelids so I thought I would post and see if someone knows what I should do. I have gone to a dermatologist who didn't know what it was, didn't test it for anything just told me to use aquaphor over the counter. I don't want to go back to the doctors for them to tell me to use some stupid over the counter thing again.
Please help.
Letting the shower with cool water run across my eyes like a little massage does bring some relief and reduces the swelling a little. Cold compresses did nothing though.
Thank you to everyone for sharing your experiences! I'll try and check back and let you all know if the EM works any better than the Vitamin E.
Thanks for the neem oil suggestion.
If you have bumps it's most likely hives. In addition to remedies listed here you "may" need a day or two of cortisone to get the hives and itching under control but cortisone is bad for your lids over an extended period of time so be careful.
Try to find what triggered it and remove it. Most of us can't find our trigger but we manage it and try to live with it.
Good luck to you.
This is the second time this has happened in 2 weeks. First time I went to the doc and got a cortisone shot in the butt and antibiotic cream for my eyes. I needed a quick fix because I was going on my anniversary trip to florida and was determined to look like I HAD slept in the past 3 years!
Once in floirda (2 days later) the swelling was much better (we were there 5 days). Three days afte returning, so did the swelling and with avengeance! This time the itching and reddness much worse than the first time.
I am 28 years old (female) and have suffered with seasonal allegies my entire life. I have had chronically dry eyes, but never anything remotely similar to this. I have had allergy testing in the past that proved my seasonal allergies (pollen, etc) and that I am slight allergic to cats. I have one dog and have had dogs my entire life. I highly doubt it is makeup related (makeup usually makes it feel better - props to all you brave souls who go without, as i am not one :)
Anyway, that's my story and I will post my progress on neem, tea tree and drops... and whatever else I can get my hands on.
BBW08
I have been treated for: dermatitis, eczema, seborrheic dermatitis, hay fever, contact dermatitis and, while I believe there might be a combination of the things, the drugs they've pumped me full of just plain don't work. I've taken Advair and Pulmicort (for asthma), elidel (causes cancer, btw), flonase, claritin, claritin d, zyrtec, zyrtec d, Xyzal (which did seem to help with regular seasonal allergies), elocon, hydrocortisone, eucerin, otc eye drops, flonase, and various other drugs, none of which have worked worth a hoot.
Here's the symptoms: dry, red, itchy eyes, swelling in the morning (some relief with cold compresses and manual lymph drainage of the neck and face), sinus pressure, mucous build-up in nasal passages, watering eyes, rash on face and neck, non-acne papule-type bumps (not hives), hives (occasionally). I don't have problems with it over winter, typically, only spring/summer. I know I have some allergies, but the skin testing didn't show anything. "My a$$," is what I have to say about that.
No changes in makeup, don't wear contacts, have dog and cat but wash hands after touching and they are with me during my couple months of non-flare-ups so they aren't the culprit, no changes in cleaning habits, use only vinegar and biokleen to clean with in flare-ups and during long periods of being fine, no changes to laundry soaps (use frag free, non-petroleum only), etc. Once it flares I know I have no hope of calming it down, despite being conscious of not scratching it. I know when the little cottony things fly around in the air that it'll flare up (happening for 2-3 years) and then, Hello itchy eyes off and on all summer long through the fall. Son of a you-know-what. I may try the neem and see how that goes. It's just crazy because once the first big flare happens, something as simple as washing my face will set off the reaction and it's a nasty cycle.
But all that said, I'm so happy other people like me are around!
first i thought its my new eye cream that coses this..then i stop using it ...but problem was still there..there i thought maybe its some kinda infection from my mascara..so stop using that too...and then OMg i figure all out.
That problem been cause by Nail Polish!(dang..)
i took my accrilic gel nails off like 2-3 weeks ago and i been wearing them for years.
so i put nail polish on..then next day my eyelids was swollen and red..ok to make long story short here is the link to the video i found on you tube..its will explane it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayk14HfP7Oc
Update: I AM SYMPTOM FREE!! I have been since a week after my last post. Yay!!
What I found out: it was totally Bare Minerals Make up that did it to me... I am so EFFING MAD about this. I loved that ****. Anyway, pojj31, go get some Everyday Minerals - its does not make me flare up and I think it looks better too :) matches my skin better and its all natural ingredients - did I mention cheaper too?? Yay!! I hope this helps you.
Kaprizulka - I thought it might be my nail polish too but I tried going without nail polish for about two weeks (which KILLED me) and I still flared all up. I've never had fake nails and I've been painting my own nails since I was old enough to do it. Though, I have heard that nail polish can cause reactions so thanks for making that point.
Also - I've been using all natural glycerin soap this helps and does not dry out my skin.
Since I got rid of my Bare Minerals and EVERYTHING it's touched (I cleaned my make up brushes and replaced one brush, got a new make up bag and THREW AWAY all Bare Minerals make up) I have not had ONE SINGLE flare up!! Here's hoping it stays that way.
Please let me know if I can help anyone with info and stuff - I no longer need NEEM on my eyes or EM - the wrinkles are almost gone completely and I only use lotion once a day now as I used to. I would NEVER have gotten through this without the advice on this board and NEEM!! I love NEEM (though I did hear that about it killing sperm/the pregnancy problem - I think you have to ingest like really high doses of NEEM for that to happen - or like ... spread it down there... for it to work, it is a pesticide after all!! Haha) Thanks so much guys and I'll be checking in!!
I'm very happy for you.That darn BE is the devil! Everyday Minerals is the way to go!
I hope you remain symptom free.
I had a flare-up this week. bah. Not too bad but still.......
FYI everyone- My routine remains as is morning and evening.
wash with L'Occatain Honey bee bars
apply Lubriderm "Anti-itch" (discontinued!!!! :-O)
apply Egyptian Magic on lids
I no longer use Neem unless I have a flare-up otherwise the above keeps me in good shape.
Anyway, I'm sorry you had a flare up :( but I'm glad you no longer have to use the anti-itch lotion!!
Keep us updated and, again, thanks so much for your help/info!!
I am new here, and have been reading this forum for a while looking for answers.
Same problem here- waking up with red swollen eyelids, itching sensation, and during the day it would go down. Also went to the doctor, who said it was blepharitis, blah blah blah....
Anyway, I think I found an allergen!!!! EGGS!!!!
Google symptoms of egg allergy and you will see "swollen eyelids, dry skin around the mouth"
I have stopped eating eggs and egg products (mayo, cakes etc) and the problem have NOT RETURNED.
I hope this helps. I was really suffering with this problem, to the point of not being able to go in public, and I hope this will be an answer to some of you!!
Good luck!
For some reason it was so hard for me to realize that I could BECOME allergic to something that I was using all along. Instead I was looking for something "NEW" that was causing my flare-ups, the truth was I had to stop using EVERYTHING to isolate the irritant.
I wish you all continued good health!
At first I did not want to think it was the color, because life without hair color is a hell on earth. Second why would this happen all of a sudden. So I went to the doctor.
3 drs. over the last 3 years have told me I have Blepharitis. When I tell them I think it is the hair color they all looked at me like "I'm the dr and this is what I say it is". At first I tried the steroid/baby shampoo treatment (because what do I know. It's only my head that I look at every day. Why would that give me cause to think I might have a better insight to my condition). The steroids help at first then the shampoo seemed to make things worse. After doing research on the steroids I stopped using it. I also started keeping track of when the flare ups would happen and yes after each color treatment it would get inflamed again. It did not matter what color company I would use.
So after lots of research and help from other women on this forum I decided to start using herbal color. Within 8 week my symptoms are completely gone and I have found the herbal color is superior in quality than the customary product. Bonus!
I have also noticed that no one has given hair color a thought. So if nothing else works try the herbal hair color and see if that makes a difference.
Hope I helped someone
Good luck in your search because this condition *****!
Before I got EM, I would put Neem Oil on my LOWER eyelids at night only (as close to the eye as I could get but BE CAREFUL, it STINGS). I used a Q-Tip. I would also put Neem lotion on my upper eyelids (I only did this for a while as it REALLY dried them out after a few nights and the itching went away very quickly once I started putting Neem lotion on them). I would do this every night with the Neem oil on my lower lids.
Then in the morning, I would put the Neem lotion on my lower lids only (I would used aloe lotion on my top lids to sooth them because they were way more sensitive than my lower lids). I would continue to apply Neem lotion to the lower lids and aloe lotion to the upper lids during the day periodically when I felt itching or whenever. Everyday.
Then when I got EM, my regimen only changed slightly - at night only - I would put EM on my upper lids instead of Neem lotion because it was less abrasive and did not dry out my upper lids as much as the Neem lotion (but it's OILY so I only used it at night). I tried putting some EM on my lower lids instead of the Neem oil but (and this is just my experience, some people had more luck with EM than I did), the EM would inflame my lower lids and make them hurt. The EM worked wonders on my upper lids but only Neem oil worked for my lower lids. The day-time regimen stayed the same.
Overall: any oily stuff, do it at night, any lotions are for the day... that way you can get away with not looking TOO weird while treating it... eventually (and especially after I found my trigger chemical/product), these daily treatments tapered off... I got down to only using aloe lotion and Neem oil at night and aloe lotion during the day to moisturize. Then after a while of that, I only had to use aloe lotion and eventually... my eyes were back to normal!! Right now I am just waiting for the wrinkles to go back down (they've faded a bunch already)...
I hope this helps... Hang in there!!
Diane in Michigan
I had not had a protein bar all week and was totally cleared up until yesterday I tried one of my sons bars and sure enough by the afternoon I was red, itchy and swollen. I look like H_ _ L this morning. I am miserable and thats why I found this great site. You have all been so helpful and I am off to Henry's this morning to pick up some EM and Neem to see if this will help. No more protein bars!! The only thing that I am concerned about is the lady with the egg reaction. I have been on a high protein, low carb program and have been eating a couple of boiled eggs every morning.....Could that also be an issue??? So I will have no eggs and no protein bars and then slowly try one in a couple weeks and see if I react.
You all are definately better than any doctor I have ever been to!!!
Thanks a million for all the info. I love this... You guys are GREAT!!
Take care and good luck, Rhonda K.
I've switched make-up, face soaps and creams etc. etc., but to no avail.
After reading this blog last week, I went and purchased Neem Seed Oil at the health food store and in 5 days, EVERYTHING has cleared up,
NO REDNESS, NO SWELLING AND NO FLAKES!!!!!
Stings like **** when you get it IN your eyes, but it is SO much better.
I LOVE this stuff, thanks to all for sharing.!!
I had forgotten that nail polish could be a trigger and wouldn't you know it? I painted my nails on Saturday for the first time since February and by Monday my eye was acting up again, I dismissed it, kinda forgot about the swelling itching that was about to occur since its been a while and lo and behold, this morning, I'm full blown tomato eye! Washed it with baby shampoo (another thought, I followed someone else's tip and did a hot compress marathon months ago where I kept repeating the process (kept changing the washcloth also every couple of hours) over and over for about 8 hours and the next day I had greatly reduced the swelling versus just doing it once a night as I usually did) so washed with baby shampoo, dried with a clean towel applied a dab of aloe vera gel and I've been ok for the last 5 hours, unfortunately, I didn't bring to work with me and I will have to wait to get home to repeat process. But yep, I think my trigger is nail polish.
I hope this helps someone.
Also anyone taking any other medication or has anyone had the Lasik eye surgery perhaps? I have. And I take synthroid...Wondering if it could be from any of these...Also use an estradoil patch...Anyone else?
It might be helpful if we could find a common link.
Dog or Cat?
Bay Area?
Medications?
Other allergies?
I've been going through the worst flare-up now though. I just moved into my own home, and ever since I've been there, my eyes have been irritated. I wore eye shadow (but no liner) 1 night and my eyes have been swollen ever since (5 days now). It's never been this bad. I'm wondering if something in my house is causing my eyes to be worse? It's very hot in my bedroom at night when I sleep (even with the a/c set at 68) so I don't know if that could be a problem? I'm defo going to go out and buy the products that have been suggested tho!
It's strange to me tho, cause if you have blogged oil ducts, you'd think that oil is the last thing you'd want to put on them? I'm up for anything tho, I can't take this anymore.
Where can I buy Neem Oil?? CVS pharmacy or Lunds?? Please help. :)
When I turned 40, I decided to treat myself to MAC Cosmetics...foundation, eye shadow, etc. I know, crazy considering the problems I'm having, but I couldn't talk myself out of it. Plus, I never felt this was caused by makeup- I never changed anything before the problem started.
At the store, the sales guy saw my scaly dry skin around my eyes and recommended Moisturelush Eye Cream A29 to help rehydrate the skin. He said slather it on real heavy and in a week the skin will look better. I didn't expect a miracle but was hoping for one and let's face it- I've chased every possible solution (Aquafor, vaseline, Neem oil, Egyptian Magic, hemorroid cream, hydrocortizone cream, ponds cream, cetaphyl, neutrogena moisturizers, plus some more I can't recall anymore) anyone has ever mentioned- so why not!
Anyway, I don't know if this stuff is so thick that it created a barrier to what was bothering me or if the ingredients are magical and didn't aggravate my sensitive skin, but it worked. My eyes healed in 2 days and they don't itch anymore.
17 days and counting and all is well. The folds in my upper lids are gone too. I'm so grateful for that-having had expensive surgery to correct the problem the first time- I can't afford to do that again.
The problem first occured a few years ago randomly. I had gone a couple weeks without wearing eyeshadow and when I wore it again, I got the symptoms described above. I thought I may be allergic to my eyeshadow or that it somehow got bacteria on it, so I threw it out and purchased new eyeshadow. Same thing happened. I switched brands to a hypoallergenic one and again, swollen, itchy and cracked eyelids. I thew out my old eyeshadow applicators and brushes and bought new ones. Still happened!
I thought maybe it was my eyeliner or foundation or mascara. But after I went a few days just wearing those three (both by themselves and together), I was fine so long as I didn't wear eyeshadow. I thought maybe it was my nail polish. But even when I wear my nail polish I'm okay. My eyelid problem seems to only happen when I wear any eyeshadow. I've worn eyeshadow since my teens, so how is it that I'm all of a sudden allergic to any and all eyeshadow???
I went to 2 dermatologists and both gave me a prescription for a light hydrocortizone and both thought it was "something" I'm doing or touching that is causing this to happen. Real specific... I know. But I haven't switched cleansers, shampoos or products that would introduce a new chemical reaction on my eyelids. I'm using all the same stuff I have been well before I started experiencing this problem.
I thought maybe it's blepharitis and i've been doing the home cleansing w/ baby shampoo. But it doesn't seem to be helping when I wear eyeshadow.
Anyone else having similar issues?
Kath (sampson1024)
Thank you very much!!!!!!
I recently had a sinus infection which made me SO sick! It took 6 weeks, 3 rounds of antibiotics, steriods, X-rays and a cough from hell. I actually had to stop the car on the road when driving in order to cough safely! Anyway, this nearly killed me and now that I am better I have this. Interestingly I suspect it is hay fever and eczema combined with fatigue which is causing it. I am currently taking Zantac which over the course of the day helps the itch. I have been using Aveeno cream on my eyes nightly for moisturisation. When the eczema flares I use a tiny amount of cortisone 1% to reduce the breakout. Eczema responds to 1) cortisone to reduce inflammation and 2) moisture to prevent the dryness which starts off the prob in the first place. If you have not tried Aveeno, it's great! Good starting point. Anyway, I am going to give the Neem oil a try - have ordered online this am as well as the Dr H cream. You guys have cost me a small fortune but I'll try anything! I love my makeup and hate the eye prob. Want to look and feel good again. It is Spring here so I am blaming this at this stage.
Thanks for the NEEM and Egyptian Magic suggestions. I'm going to get one. ALSO, a friend who's a nurse said it could be due to lack of sunlight. I've read we should face the sun at least 20 minutes a day. I had forgotten that and have not been doing that.
Wow, after being symptom free I'm having a full blown episode and nothing, NOTHING is helping. I even broke down and used cortisone and that didn't help.
I made an appt with a new Dr.. Going today. Praying she can be patient enough to help resolve it for me.
I can't find the trigger! I've changed nothing in my routine. I'm leaning towards something I've ingested but after a whole week I would have thought it would be out of my system right now but I'm in the still swollen and slightly peeling stage.. Both upper & lower lids. I look like a shar pei!
I'm so depressed.
I'll report back.
Sorry to everyone who has to suffer through this. I too have this same, horrifying problem. I wish I knew what caused it but I think there are too many ingredients in things I thouch/eat/use to figure it out. I bought Egyptian Magic and it has worked wonderfully for me! I still wake up with slightly swollen lids sometimes but the flakey skin and redness and most of the swelling is gone. The EM makes the swelling go down pretty quickly too. My eyes mostly flare up from using makeup (mascara, eyeshadow, eyeliner) and then sometimes from dust or household cleaners etc. I'm just wondering if anyone has found a brand of eyemakeup (particularly mascara) that works for them and doesn't cause the flare ups? I was using maybeline for about 10 years but obviously can't use it anymore. If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it! I want to wear makeup again!!!! : (
Found a new Dr. and went today. I was in my end stage of an episode. Still swollen, not so red, barely any flaking but my lids were sore and looked like deflated latex balloons.
After listening to my long tale of woe she examined me, left the room and came back with another Dr. “We think you have something pretty uncommon. Blepharochalasis Syndrome”
HUH?
http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1214014-overview
So, while many of my symptoms suggest this but not all, I was referred to a PLASTIC SURGEON!
*blink blink* HUH?
I don’t know what to think. I won’t lie. I’m thrilled at the prospect of having my eyes surgically restored to their former youthfull appearance and possibly having my medical insurance cover it. I’m confused as I’m not sure my issues will be relieved if I do. The Dr. told me that the PS will be best to handle me as he deals in all kinds of glandular problems and he needs to confirm her diagnosis.
I will be calling 1st thing in the morning. I’ll keep you all posted.
PS Allyrachel: I’m using Maybelline Great Lash waterproof with not problem. lol. At least that I know of! I’m so glad the E. Magic worked for you!! I carry that stuff everywhere.
Do yo guys have both eyes affected? Mine has always been just my right eye. SO annoying!
I went to see an alternative therapist who I have seen in the past for a few unrelated conditions. It only took one session with him to cure this problem. He immediately identified the allergens which had triggered it - mainly some new face powder I has started using a few weeks earlier and a few other products which weren't suiting my skin. He then did some healing work on the wrinkled skin around my eye resulting in it being back to normal and looking like my other eye in under a week.
This is the website of the guy who cured this for me. I appreciate he will be too far away or in the wrong country for most of you on here but if you contact him he may be able to reccommend someone local to you as I know he has contacts worldwide.
http://www.*****************.com/
I have just read this back before posting it and it looks like an advertisement for this guy - I promise you it isn't, I just want to tell you all how I cured this. I really feel for all of you who have lived with this horrible condition for months or years. I only had it for a few weeks and found it really upsetting.
I still have the red, itchy, dry skin on my eyelids. It is even extending out beyond the upper lids. I have been diagnosed with blepharitis and I believe I have this condition. (My eyes burn and water horribly). I don't know if the bleph. is to blame for all this or not.
I guess I just want to share what has helped with the swelling of the lids. Drink lots of water, exercise and reduce sodium and things that dehydrate like alcohol and caffeine. Hopefully we will all find what will heal us very soon!!!!
Disasters: boric acid, aleo vera gel, Vagisil, hemorrhoid cream, and my favorite... topical steroid (from my "knowledgeable" dematologist...$75.00 for the wasted visit... thanks alot)
all burned... inflammed... and resulted in a bigger mess...
What Semi Worked:
Egyptian Magic (dermatologist looked at contents and said "mid-eastern vasoline")
Neem Cream (dermatologist looked at contents and said "glorified aloe vera")... yet they BOTH worked better than her steroid from hell...
If you are going to use this combination of stuff... your upper lid is going to like the Egyptian Magic... the lower is going to puff moderately (on a min, mod, max scale)... both my lids accepted the Neem cream... but the lower remained min-mod swollen and both lids remained RED...
Nizarol Shampoo (Walgreens)... put on straight and sparingly and for only several minutes... too much and it will seep into your eyes and burn like noone's business... decent short term result... totally cuts the swelling... but I kept piling on the other stuff... was afraid not to... so not sure how it would have worked by itself... Im now using it as my new shampoo... because I know its safe on my lids and will not cause additional erruption...
Neem Oil... the ointment that must have been made from pre-historic dinosaur anal glands... STUNK to high Heaven... I stunk to high Heaven... couldnt stand myself... the dog edged to the other side of the bed and pointed his nose away from me... that putrid mess burned my eyes all night long with no better results than the Neem cream... which was MUCH better contained and only had a slight garlic odor...
Claritin for Allergies... take two a day... it didnt kill me... I weigh about 120 lbs... cut down the itching...
FINALLY... WHAT WORKED... well... at least for the last two hours... but I BELIEVE!!! :)
Oil of Oregano... kills all types of body fungus... both internal and external... I do believe we have fungus boy and girls... RUN... dont walk to the health food store and go get you some... took one tiny gel cap... and before it got fully down my throat... I watched in amazement as my eyes shrunk to their normal size... two pills and the red was totally gone... no swelling... no itch... no gunky tear seepage... NORMAL EYELIDS!!!
Ill keep you posted on my progress... 2 hrs and holding...
Sha
Sha
What brand of oil of oregano to buy?
I too recently started using Bare Minerals...I suspect it might be the problem-
I'm stopping right now and going to wash my brushes too-
thanx
I went in to Super Supplements (health food store) and looked at their skin care section. They had a poster advertising the before and after effects of an emu oil product. It was only $6 so I thought I would give it a try. It is called EMU gency First Aid pocket stick. It looks like a lip balm tube. It has emu oil, beeswax, vit E. oil , lots of other goodies and is all natural.
I started putting it on in the morning and at night before I went to bed. (I can't even remember the last time I wore eye makeup!) I am two weeks into the treatment and I'll be damned if the redness is not 95% GONE!!!! The itching is nearly gone. It took probably a week to see really good results. There is still a tiny bit of wrinkling on one lid but quite honestly, my eyelids look better than before this whole horrible fiasco began. In addition to relieving the redness and itching, it makes your eyelids look really soft. I am amazed and wanted to share this with you all. I looked at the EM and it looks great too, but to expensive for me. This stick was only $6 and is the only thing that has given me relief. Look in your local health food stores or online at laidinmt.com
I haven't had the swelling for well over a month. Like I said I am exercising more and drinking more water. I am also doing hot compresses to treat the blepharitis.
Thanks to ShaX2 for the oil of oregano heads up. I want to investigate this also.
Wishing you all healthy eyelids!!
TapperMel
So glad to have found you!
I've followed the Medhelp site for approx 2 years and tried everyone's suggestions. Nothing has really helped but I went back to an eye doctor's recommendation she made years ago, and I find it's really soothing and the swelling/redness has gone . Hopefully on my way to being able to handle this terribly irritating condition. I use Refresh Endura eyedrops, Lidcare eye towelettes to wash my lids once a day, polysporin or cortrate on the lids, and vaseline morning and night. I'm going to start with the warm compresses as well prior to using the eyelid towelettes. This condition seems to need vigilant care to keep on top of and I read it's chronic, so it won't go away (probably).
I am a female 42 - run 6 miles 6x a week - eat very healthy (an occasional salt or sweet binge once a month -I'm sure the ladies understand :-)) no health issues - never had allergies etc.
This April I first noticed the inner area in between my eyes to the side of my eyelids became slightly swollen and then slightly scaly after a few days - I would moisturize to reduce dryness but the swelling did not subside.
Shortly after a week my eyelids were twitching on and off throughout the day - mostly on (not the spasm that occurs on rare occasions from lack of sleep). But ridiculous fast twitching.
Then my eyes became very very itchy and occasionally my nose too. My ears would also pop at times - hearing would get muffled especially on damp humid days.
At night I sometimes had fevers and would often awake feeling slightly sweaty.
I went to my GP. Gave me a scrip for Clarinex and Patanol eye drops. Did not help.
Went back - gave me a scrip for Amoxicillin - Did nothing.
At this point my eyelid swelling was getting worse - the actually lid was swelling not just the upper area in between my eyes.
Obviously frustrated I sought out further help...
I went to an ENT Dr. - He did allergy tests - sinus scans - gave me a scrip for a cat scan to see if my ethmoid sinuses were blocked - gave me a scrip for methylprednisolone (oral steroids).
The next day I went to an Allergist - he looked in my ears and up my nasal passages and said I had massive amounts of fluid in my ears and that all the pressure was backing up into my eyes - he diagnosed me with Eustachian tube dysfunction and allergic conjunctivitis - He gave me a scrip to Omnaris (nasal steroid spray) - Elestat eye drops and told me to take Claritan D. He also did allergy tests.
MY cat scan came back negative. My allergy tests came back with a very very low allergy to weeds- pollen and corn. - almost undectable.
The oral steroid worked like magic. I had my eyes back! I felt like me again when I looked in the mirror.
Until one month later ...It all came back.
By this time it is the beginning of August.
Went back to the ENT - got another dose pack of Methylprednisolone - He tested my ears - He did not agree w/Allergist about the Dysfunctional Eustachian tubes - my hearing checked out okay. This time the oral steroids only worked for two weeks and my eyelid horror returned.
Early September I went to an Ophthalmologist - He gave me a scrip for a steroid ointment called FML. He said it was some kind of allergy - highly unlikely due to pollen and weeds as my Allergist suggested - he said I had to be a detective and find out if any products I am using are causing this. He described it as a form of eczema and dermatitis.
I started using the FML - it did work - for a month - then symptoms came back...
Now during this time period of getting conflicting diagnoses and getting nowhere - treating the symptoms not the cause I did put 2 things in the back of my mind that occured to me.
One night I ate way too many Wheat Thins -woke up with grossly magnified swelling and puffiness. The other occasion I ate way too much Vanilla ice cream and could barely open my eyes the next morning.
I spoke to my one of the Allergist's about this - asking if I had a food allergy - and she said that my eyes could not be caused by a food allergy - that if I had a food allergy my lips would be swelling up. So I continued on with the eye drops and antihistamines and decongestants.
Then very recently the corner of my lip split and I googled that and it was described as:
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"Why do lip corners split ?
The splitting of lip corners is the symptom of a problem called angular cheilitis (also known as perleche). It is the Inflammation of the sides of the lips following a fungal or a bacterial infection.This problem is more common among people who have a deficiency in iron or in vitamin B2, B3, B6 and B12. "
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When I read the words Fungal infection I remembered googling all this time and reading a couple of blogs and articles about yeast overgrowth and finally decided to look into . At first I was skeptical because none of the Doctors I saw mentioned that. Some sites about yeast overgrowth seem like a sales pitch which turns me off. Yet I decided to research this and can tell you I believe that is what this is.
Yeast overgrowth.
For over a week I have cut out sugar, dairy and yeast (except plain yogurt with active cultures). I am eating plain yogurt sprinkled with cinnamon - salmon -tuna - chicken eggs lots of garlic and all kinds of vegetables. I am limiting fruit to one small glasss of fresh squeezed orange juice and another fruit. I am also eating some brown rice. Brown rice is okay and does not contain yeast - besides as a runner I need some carbs.
I also started taking acidophilus, a multi vitamin and biotin.
I am feeling so much better! I have my eyes back again! I am able to wear my makeup. BTW I too wondered if my beloved BareMinerals was causing this - It did not. I had these flareups going without makeup. I will say that the Mieral Veil does make my face itchy but I read that is from an ingrediebt called Zea Mays which is Cornstarch. I did rest positive to a slight corn allergy .
I will report back as I continue on with my healing!
I hope this helps someone. :-)
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The reason you have Eczema is most likely an adrenal gland and fat metabolism problem. All the cremes, drugs, and other so called modern day medicine cures are ridiculous and doctors need to go back to school or better yet, change where they went to school. The drug companies that fund these schools prey on the ignorance and end up making a lot of money on this problem. You can get rid eczema forever and it only takes a few months.
If you are not getting good sleep at night ( 1 - 2 REM sleep periods ), this will not allow your adrenal glands to recharge properly and cause them to not work properly.
You need to eliminate ALL hydrogenated oils and especially genetically modified oils like Canola & Soybean. These are all being genetically altered and wreak havoc with your bodies immune system and fat digestion. Don’t be like a lot of uninformed Americans that eat these “vegetable” oils that are creating huge digestive problems.
Your liver and gall bladder need to be taken care of because if they are not working properly, you will not digest your fats correctly and this will cause the problem. Drugs like the Prednisone will damage your liver and the Magnesium Stearate they put in the tablets will suppress your immune system. If you are eating a diet high in carbohydrates and low in fats, this is a big problem because the low fat diet will cause the bile in your gall bladder to become very viscous and not work properly, hence, not digest your fats properly. You need a diet that is balanced at 40% protein, 30% carbohydrates, and 30% fats to be healthy.
If you are a woman (you didn't say), and had an episiotomy when you gave child birth, this could play a big role in this problem because the scar from the episiotomy will reflex to your adrenal glands and reduce the energy to a point where they won't work properly and cause this problem.
To correct the Eczema problem, if it were me, I would do the following and expect results very quickly.
Stop all medications, but make sure any steroids you have taken or are taking is slowly eliminated if you are taking these. Once you have stopped them, you are going to have to deal with lots of other digestive issues they have messed up.
Buy some "pink sea-salt." This is salt that contains minerals and other ingredients that will help your problem. Take at least 1/2 teaspoon of this per day.
Any drugs you have taken, killed your intestinal flora and you have Candida Albicans (yeast problem) that you are now going to have to deal with. This has stopped your body from producing “B” vitamins naturally. If you are itching, getting styes, ringworm, etc. this is most likely a good reason for this. It's not enough to take B vitamin pills to fix this, it won't, especially if you get the “B” Vitamins in a tablet from from drug stores or health food stores. You need to eat lots of fermented foods, like keifer, sauerkraut, miso (a good brand is Yamabuki), yogurt, etc.
I stongly suggest you go to this web site: www.healthline.cc (not the .com healthline site, it is bogus) or call them at: (800) 370 - 3447 and order the "Max Stress B" product. I would take 1/4 teaspoon day one, and then increase it daily up to 2 teaspoons after one week. This is a very potent form of “B” Vitamin source that contains the "end chain" B's and is highly assimilated by the body. This will stop any itching you may have also within a couple days.
I would also purchase from the same company a product called Adrenal Complex. I would take 9 of these at breakfast each day. I know it sounds like a lot, but you need these herbs to go to work on your deficiencies.
If you follow this routine, you should be over the Ecxema problem within about 2 months and it should not return.
I would also change my diet to heavy omega 3 fatty acid foods such as WILD fish (not farm raised), Beef from grass fed cows (very high in omega 3 fatty acids), unlike the high omega 6 fatty acid garbage beef from grain fed cows sold in commercial grocery stores, flax seed products. Eliminate sugars, especially sodas (even diet sodas), white flour breads. This feeds the Candida and the phosphoric acid in the sodas is binding the calcium, magnesium, zinc, iron, potassium, etc. preventing absorption.
I would also purchase from that company the Betaine HCL and HCL activator, as well as the digestive enzyme and take 2 to 3 Betaine HCL and 1 to 2 activators and take after each meal, and one digestive enzyme with each meal. I would also purchase the probiotic and take one in the morning and one at night. I would take it with keifer milk. You can take this even if you are lactose intolerant.
All this will change your life and you should not ever have to deal with that Eczema again. It really works. Then when you are cured, tell your doctor and educate him on how the body works. I hope he appreciates the advice, because you will not be going to him for medications and his services anymore for this problem.
good luck to you
Source(s):
CNT, B.A. biology & chemistry
advanced nutritional research
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This makes so much sense to me as I do not get much sleep at night - I go to bed too late and I have an elderly cat wakes me up at night with her meowing (I still love her - now if a human being woke me up three time that would be a different story :-)) Then I get up earlly and work out - run six miles - I think I may have burned out my adrenal glands and compromised my immune system. Plus if you read up on yeast overgroth I have read that it can cause massive congestion in the eye are as well as the sinuses and ears.
I can tell you since I have eliminated the yeast sugar and dairy I am doing great. Also I read another correlation which leads me to a yeast overgrowth - My twitching eyelids are due to a Vitamin B deficiency which the yeast is robbing from me.
Wishing everyone well on this forum. :-).
i am so glad i've found you.
i've had the SAME THING on one eye lid for about 3 weeks now- and it has progressively gotten worse and worse. yesterday it felt so tight and on fire i wanted to scratch my eye until it fell out.
i have found one cream though that has MAssively reduced the swelling and the itch.
it's neal's yard, rose and almond night cream.
i tried E45 which i'm quite sure made it worse, bio oil which definitely made it MUCH worse.
all moisturisers have made my eye feel on fire...
at least the neal's yard has stopped the aggrivation, but my eye-lid, too is drooping and looks really aged.
when all the irritation has gone i might keep rubbing Vit E oil in.
i think the key is, only use seriously emoilient and natural stuff. def keep away from anything anti-aging.
i think mine was triggered by stress and a change in facewash- but i'll never know.
i've had it once before and it came up when i was particularly stressed and seemed to disappear on its own.
anyway- try the neals yard cream. it's working for me.
I believe this is all bacteria/fungus related.
I posted about this on the other so I wont go into detail other than to say I cured this problem with my 17 yr old son with organic apple cider vinegar and coconut oil. Both have properties that kill bacteria/fungus.
My SON IS CURED.
Its been amazing. Stinks but works. Will continue use until basketball season is over since it seems the sweat started it.
good luck all. try the vinegar
My son said the vinegar stung the first time pretty good but nothing after that.
It makes sense, the vinegar changes the ph level on the skin.
He is still having success, but we have not stopped using the vinegar. After the first two application his eyelids got scaley, or peeled a litte, which we then used the coconut oil on, but now its all clear. They looked slightly red after the basketball game (sweat always irritated it) but we have avoided a full outbreak since starting the vinegar. Thank God!
I bought some Egyptian Magic at Whole Foods and I love it. It replaced the Vaseline, was greasy, but less so and you can rub it in. Then, I was talking to a friend, who had the same problem a couple of months before. She had been diagnosed with allergies at an urgent care place, and given the Pataday drops which didn't work for her either. She finally went to her eye doctor and he diagnosed her with Bleph and gave her a prescription for Tobradex ointment (antibiotic/steroid). She said she had relief in the first 24 hours and was able to begin wearing makeup again in a week.
I called my eye doctor back and told him the Pataday was not working and told him about my friend and could he prescribe me the Tobradex. He called in a prescription for Tobramycin drops. I was to use them 4 times a day for 10 days, which I have done. I am on my 8th day and my eyes are back to normal. My eye balls were slightly pink, so the antibiotic has fixed that. I still use the hot compress in the morning and at night and I still clean my eyelids. I have changed to Steri Lid and like it much better than the OcuSoft.
My fear is that I'll finish the antibiotic and the problem will come back. I will continue to clean my eyelids, just in case it is Blepharitis. It's very frustrating to deal with something like this and very expensive if you don't have insurance. We have a high deductable, so we pay for all our medications and office visits. After reading all the posts, I don't think there is just one solution for this or even one diagnosis. It seems like some of the posters really do have allergies and some have some form of contact dermatitis and some truely have Blepharitis. I will let you know if I am "cured" when I finish the treatment. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions.
My eyes started about 3 months ago and it was definitely pink eye since my eye balls were so swollen and red. Then after that it just never healed well and I started getting all the symptoms that everyone is describing: watery eyes, crazy itchy, swollen lower and upper eye lids, wrinkles that make me look 100 yrs old, and the skin is really pink and dark on top of that. I also have a life-long history of allergies, eczema, and sensitive eyes. (I am female, 24 yrs old)
I finally went to urgent care 2 weeks ago and of course I was diagnosed with blepharitis. My eyes were so bad that it looked like I was stung by a bee on both eyes. I was given an oral steroid (Prednisone) for 5 days. After my first dose my eyes literally got 90% better. Then after the last dose I looked normal again and my eyes did not even itch.
BUT also the things I did during the 5 days was: washing my eyes 2-3+ times a day with Aveeno baby shampoo, then applying Eucerine cream on both eyelids to keep it moisturized after each wash and throughout the day. I found Eucerine to be the best thing to put on my eyes because the vaseline and greasy formulas like that did not moisturize and did not help. Aveeno lotion also helped but Eucerine did not sting and lasted longer. (I noticed a SIGNIFICANT, almost instant improvement when I stopped using vaseline/aquaphor and switched to Eucerine cream).
But after the Prednisone wore off my eyes got a little pink/dark under the eyes again and slightly itchy. So I purchased neem oil and oil of oregano gel capsules. The neem oil was so oddly scented that I only used it twice, so I am not sure if it helped, but I really do believe that it was the oil of oregano gel capsules. I think we all have been doing all we can on the outside but I never tried anything internally (besides continuing to take Zyrtex daily for allergies).
Someone mentioned a fungus. I really think that is what caused all this for me because since I have been taking the oil of oregano I am better. Currently, I look 100% better and feel better. I think it was a combo of the Prednisone to control the symptoms and swelling, cleaning my eyes, using Eucerine cream around my eyes, and the oil of oregano. I was such a wreck before, my eyes were horrific, felt terrible, and I looked like a scarey old wrinkled person. It is so weird we all have the same symptoms but doctors can't seem to nail down the cause or a proper treatment.
So, after ditching all products with CAPB and quarantining my eyes (no touching them for ANY reason - use a q-tip if you need to scratch! It can cause problems even if it's on your hands from something else and you touch your eyes), and using only one product for moisturizing (I ended up with Emu-gency stick - it's like a big chapstick, so I don't need fingers, and it feels really nice on my sad eyelids - just find something that doesn't sting or irritate the already compromised skin), and really really being careful in the shower not to let any shampoo (check ingredients!) or conditioner flow towards my face and wash my hands after that with a safe soap, things are MUCH MUCH better. The redness is almost gone, the peeling has slowed way down, and almost no swelling when I woke up this morning. WHAT A RELIEF.
Don't know if this is the cure for everyone because one person's experience is hardly statiscally relevant, but maybe there's something to this CAPB stuff that needs to be checked out.
Good luck everyone!
night and the EM is soothing and wonderful. I may try the emu stick too. Also going to start a no fungus diet with no sugar, etc. and get more D, C and B. I am also thinking of getting a sun lamp since it is better in the summer when in the sun.
I have lost 7 lbs since off soy since it is in most prepared foods like cookies, candy and granola bars. Still not sure if there are other triggers but will start reading ingredients on shampoos etc.
At least for now it is somewhat under control and if I do have a flare up I use a tiny bit of cortisone cream ( which I know is not good to do) but that reduced swelling very quickly.
Good luck to all of you -- this is such a frustrating thing to deal with!
He finally admitted he had stopped using the vinegar so he started again and it was all gone. Again, it seems when he sweats its the worse. But praise God the vinegar is working.
I told him to continue using it until basketball season is over then we can try stopping.
thanks!
jen
PLEASE do yourself a favour and go buy some Dr Hauscka Eye Contour Balm. I'm a 26y.o female that started getting red, puffy, scaly eyelids about 8 weeks ago and tried heaps of different things (moisturiser, pawpaw salve, warm compresses, tea tree oil, hydrocortisone [which worked until I stopped using it] but nothing would work permanently or stop it from getting worse. Then I read on here about Dr Hauschka's Eye Contour Balm. I got some on Saturday and it's Thursday now and it has COMPLETELY cleared up my eyelids - I seriously cannot believe it, even the wrinkles under my eyes and the extra folds of skin on my eyelids that were caused from whatever it was I had are gone.
I'm pretty sure my symptoms were caused by my make-up which I stopped using at the same time the symtoms started but they still wouldn't go away. As people have mentioned previously, the Dr H balm has neem oil in which has antifungal and antibacterial properties but when mixed with the other ingredients in the Dr H balm it's not as harsh on your skin (and delicate eyelids). ALSO, try to get at least 20 minutes of sun a day; I've been doing that too and I'm sure it's helped as well as before that I wasn't even getting 20 minutes of sun a week!
The Dr H Balm is pretty exxy at 25 pounds or around $40-50 US and Australian dollars but it is SO worth it if it does the trick, especially if you think your symptoms stem from bacteria.
And also, stay away from hydrocortisone if you can help it, it will do permanent damage to your skin if you use it for long periods of time.
Hope this helps!
But it is Organic Applecider Vinegar with the Mother
Thanks,
Nicole M.
I found in combination with elimating products with cocamidopropyl betaine (you asked about facewash - check out Aubrey Organics line - they don't have any foaming agents at all and they make great chemical-free shampoo too) I got a lot better. I am finding a few other things like tea tree oil and urea also cause irritation so I am pretty much in favor of using only minimal products so I don't keep having to wonder which ingredient did it. I suppose I should go see a dermatologist and have the allergy patch tests done. I did end up using low-dose hydrocortisone cream for a couple days to break the inflammation cycle and the redness and swelling didn't come back like it did the first time I tried it. I think you just have to be a good detective and pay attention to what works and doesn't work for you... and don't give up, because there is a reason!
nikim00n, mine started about 2 1/2 months ago, so I don't think it's the weather. In fact, the cool air seems to soothe it a little. I live in NC, so it doesn't get really cold here.
wear latex glove most of the day at work so I have switched to latex free. I think that could have been part of the problem. I know that Bare Essecentuals made my face itch so I stopped using that. Good luck!
I feel bad for young people with this problem, especially those who have the swollen eyelids, which I think is something other than Blepharitis. Hang in there and try different things until you hit on one that works.
Still using EM BUT I threw caution to the wind and tried a sample of Nia 24 eye cream (loaded with niacin B3) I got and I can't rave enough about it. I was petrified dabbing it on. No reaction and it seems to be restoring the "deflated balloon" appearance I got from this mess. Been using it for a week without problems. $$$ though. I just order it from ebay for less. It's only sold at derms. Honestly, my eyes haven't looked this good in a very long time. I always tap a bit of EM over it.
I would not recommend trying it if you're in a full blown episode but if you have it somewhat under control, try it. Get a sample first.
then i stumbled onto this page, and now i see that i am not alone.
the itching started in my left eye about 6 months ago/ Little by little it gets worse. and spread to the rt eye.
the swelling, the redness, the horrible itching until i just about bleed. then last but not least the scaly, skin peeling.
Been to the doctor 2 times and he really doesn't know what it is.
recently i noticed the lids are looking wrinkly, and this bums me out.
Thanks for the idea for the neem oil. I went & got some today, and i am giving it a try this very moment.
I am hopeful.
And of course as I feel like there's something in my eyelid: I scratch and itch even more. It seems to be happening more often recently but I can't think of anything that could cause it.
Please help me!!!!!! :0(
The eyelids though were red, sore, wrinkled, scaly, peeling, and puffy--especially the one. He diagnosed contact dermatitis and recommended the hydrocortisone cream others have mentioned. I told him I don't use makeup, have used the same soaps and moisturizers for a long time, and have had the cat for 14 years. I've never had this happen before and hadn't changed anything. He said your body changes and can start reacting to things it never did before.
So I got the cream at the drug store. The pharmacist recommended the 1/2% because I was using it near my eyes. It took the swelling down in a day or so. But it didn't stay away. In a few days, I could feel the rough skin and the wrinkles got worse again.
So I got some Egyptian Magic. Cost $31.00, but I figured it was worth it if it worked. Bought glycerin soap and asked the clerk at the health food store for a moisturizer with the purest ingredients they had. Another $32.00. With all this, I was better, but still not great.
So I washed the cat. This is a grumpy, old, fat, 15.5 lb. tomcat with all his teeth and claws. He does not like baths. It takes 2 people to do it. But he does go outside. And I figured he might have picked up something. I have a neighbor who got a terrible poison oak rash from hers.
The bath worked. I don't know what he got into. And I'm careful to wash my hands after I hold or pet him now. But I've been able to go back to all my old creams and soaps without any problems.
I thank my lucky stars to have found this site. I am 54 yo, pretty much haven't worn make up my whole life, suffered from seasonal allergies (hay fever) with swollen eye lids in my 20's but not many problems with allergies now. I don't have animals. Out of nowhere, on Christmas eve, I came home from a party, looked at myself in the mirror and it looked like I had just gone snow skiing all day without googles and I had forgotten to put sunscreen on my eyelids!!! I had bright red eye lids and a red spot on one side of my neck. The red went from my upper eye lashes up to my eye brows.
I'm not sure what people are referring to when they say "upper eye lid" and "lower eye lid". I guess that the lower eye lid is that smaller amount of skin underneath the lower eye lashes.
Anyway, I got a Homepathic first aid gel called Sovereign Silver at the Vitamin Store. It helped a little bit but then the swelling came back and my eyes were almost swollen shut when I woke up one morning. The only thing that helped them was putting on some cold compresses. It is sooooo creepy to have all this loose wrinkly skin on my eye lids. So much for people telling me I look like I'm 40! : (
I am going to run out and get the Neem oil and lotion and the EM balm. THANK YOU SO MUCH for all your helpful information and experiences and advice. The doctors are no help.
FYI, I did get my hair colored, highlighted 2 times in Dec. The first time was before this eye incident started. I can't remember if, after I got the 2nd highlighting, the eye situation got worse. Also, I did have an intestinal bug before this eye problem started and I started eating an egg every morning to have a bland breakfast that wouldn't irritate my stomach. Usually, I have oatmeal or cereal every morning for breakfast. I'm going to watch to see if I might have an egg allergy or if the hair coloring has something to do with it.
Best wishes to all and happy healing.
Sincerely,
a fellow sufferer of "Bizarro Eyes" : )
I'm hoping everyones eyes are a bit better.
I just wanted to let you know that I have found a good alternative to Neem and Egyptian Magic. EMU OIL. It is sold in health stores (GNC, Whole Foods......) but you must be sure to get a good one. Organic. If you buy it and it gives off more than a very faint smell, it's not good. Return it. Some people can not tolerate it so do a patch test 1st, preferably on or close to your face.
Also, I can stress enough how important it is to keep your EYES moist using drops such as SYSTANE. It will keep tearing and irritation in check with can acerbate your lid condition.
Good luck all!
Finally, I have found a topical, non-steroidal, medicine that has completely cleared me up. I first tried a smaple from my dermatologist. It only took a few days to clear me up completely. Its been over a month now--and i have not had a single flare up. It's called Epiceram. Good luck everybody.
I've tried compresses, not wearing makeup, changing my sheets... and obviously none of that helped. Its so embarassing because I work in a Pharmacy and we couldn't figure out what was going on with me! I walk into work everyday and look like I've been doing hard drugs all night!
Can't wait to try the NEEM oil...it sounds like it really helps, and I think I am going to reevaluate my face wash and shampoo because the Benzoyl Peroxide idea might have some bearing.
Anyway, again, THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Have also endured years of (upper) eyelid erethyma. Excellent internist diagnosed blepheritis, but not likely, all these years later. Dermatologist did prescribe strongest possible hydrocortisone cream, which provides some relief, but short-term. Also, risky.
Worse in winter: pruritis leads to inflammation, becomes thickened, then very red...until derma seems very thin. In the first stage, baby shampoo applied on moist cotton pad, as prescribed by phys., and can be found in Merck's, does help, but it is minimal.
She prescribed steroid cream. I told her I didn't want to use it and she said my case was so severe nothing else would touch it. She said use it for 7 days then stop. I did and it cleared the rash. Day three after stopping I woke up with it severe swelling and rash covering more area than original. GREAT!! I have made a connection between soy sauce and the swelling and rash. If I have too much, gauranteed to wake up this way.
I've been doing tons of research, as we all have. I have decided to try organic extra virgin coconut oil. I put it on the rashes for a day, smells great and didn't seem to irritate. The next day the skin was peeling (as it had with the steroid cream) and the redness was a little better. The last four days I have not done any treatment because I have another doc appointment with the actual dermatologist tommorow and I want him to see it with no medicine on it. I just want a diagnosis. I am not interested in steroids, internal or external. I may use a little OTC but I want to give the coconut oil a good try. Many have said they have had success with it.
I have also had the itching around my mouth. I had angular chelitis last winter (total drag!) this affects the corners of your mouth. I put a little neosporin and vaseline at night and it went away. I have not heard of Cedar Fever. You should do all the research you can on it and maybe get a second opinion. I'll keep you posted and let you know what the derm says tommorrow. Good luck to you and hopefully we'll all get our conditions figured out and healed.
The complaints we share do seem to allude any definitive dx, that's for sure.
Thanks again!
This eye(eyeLID, though--no infection at all IN my eye, so not blepheraris or a stye or Pink-Eye) thing--first itchy, dry and red on the outside and top of one eyelid, then spreading to the other,
started just before Christmas.
Not so bad then and I didn't worry about it much, and I kept slathering on my eye cream and wearing make-up(not that it looked so good over the scaley skin, but I felt it helped to hide my now red ringed eyelids). I thought it was just winter dry skin(even though I have oilier skin and never had any dry skin issues).
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By New Year's it was worse--stinging in the shower, and stinging whenever I put my previously gentle eye cream on it. Then, by last Tuesday, it had gotten even worse with incredible itching and my eyes getting puffier(lower and upper lids). Two or three times a day, I applied an over-the-counter hydrocortizone cream and that helped the itching...somewhat. But it did nothing for the increasing dryness--crepey, wrinkled and dry texture, as others have described it. I am 47 years old and look about 10 years younger normally, so to all of a sudden look like an ancient 100 year old person was a shock and almost made me want to cry. Yes, I am a bit vain, but I think this would be the case for most of us. (I also work directly with the public, so this was not good for my confidence and professional demeanor)
By Saturday(just this past weekend), I was all puffed up and the worst it had been--appearance-wise. The itching had subsided, however. And I had stopped using the hydrocortizone cream days before. I was nervous about using too much around the eyes and somehow knew this was not the answer.
Then I remembered that this same thing had happened to me 30 years before--just before entering my senior year in high school. I had a hard, emotional time of it looking like that at a new school, I remember and I think it lasted about 2 months. I went to an allergist back then but don't recall what the doctor concluded--only that I was allergic to "mold spores"--no treatment and surely he had no idea what it was. I just remember at the time slathering on moisteriser(cheap body lotion, actually--what did I know) and it eventually clearing up--my eyes returning to normal and never any allergies to anything ever after.
So...here was this eye "thing" once more. I hated not knowing how it happened and why I got it. I felt like going to the doctor's would be a waste of time.
After reading some of the other "tips" here, I started to think this was not an allergy to make-up(which I wear lightly most days and never had a problem with and no sensitivity) or perfume(which I love and have worn all my adult life) or food or other scents(even though since last week, I have been going without makeup or perfume and using a very basic shampoo and soap in the shower). I got the feeling this was an internal sugar/yeast thing or else a severe reaction to mold. I stopped eating any sugar, and no processed wheat anything. I decided to try Oil Of Oregano and Milk Thistle caps--to cleanse out my liver and possible overload of sugar and yeast in my body.
This wasn;t really helping the puffiness though, and I kept applying jojoba oil(the only thing that didn't sting my eyes) and applying cold compresses to try to make me look a little less like I was old, tired and had been crying(combined with lizard-y skin on the upper swollen eyelid and a red "line" that looked like a big baggy wrinkle under my right eye). After obsessively researching the internet all weekend, I read about different types of molds and candia infections(related to jock itch and athlete's foot and that there were other forms of funguses the skin can be afflicted with) and that often Nizoral(ketoconazole) cream was used to treat it.
I told my husband I was going to go to a walk-in clinic and tell them that I thought I needed to get a prescription for Nizoral cream(I somehow "knew" I did not want to waste my time with steroids and more hydrocortizone creams which I felt the doctors would insist on giving me).
Then, my husband said he HAD Nizoral(ketoconazole 2% cream) cream in the house. His doctor had prescribed it to him in the summer for athlete's foot. I noticed on the tube it said "not for opthamalic use" but I was desperate and knew I would not get it IN my eyes--just around it. I applied it and left for work. As the day progressed, I "felt" like my eyes were getting back to normal. Sure enough, when I got home, I looked almost like my old self again! Kept applying the jojoba oil, though--skin on the eyelids still red and dry with a little of the wrinkly stuff left(especially in the inner corners of my eyes)
Right before bed, I applied the Nizoral cream once more(even though it says once a day is best, and from here on in, I'll do it once a day--before bed). My eyes were back to normal this morning(maybe just a little of the redness left and a little of the puffiness, and only a little of the wrinkled look left, too) Before this, looking in the mirror made me want to cry and I had to keep piling on cold compresses to try to ease the swelling.
So...(sorry this is SO long) I really think somehow I picked up a fungus.
Perhaps eye shadow? I have thrown out all my eye make up and will probably stick to pencil eyeliner and mascara--no eye shadow-- from here on in.
Perhaps from work. I had a stressful December there with long hours and wasn't eating right those days(living on crackers and cookies....sugar and processed food overload) AND we use a compressor to run a machine upstairs(a mat cutter--I work in a frame shop). This compressor, we discovered, had a leak and when we drained it--there was almost black, moldy water in it. Now, we use the "air" from the compressor, also upstairs(the compressor is down in the damp basement which has flooded a few times and my boss NEVER addresses the problem by drying it out) as a blower, to blow dust off of pictures before we seal them under glass. The two weeks before Christmas, we discovered water instead of air coming out of the house(we use a nozzle sprayer for the air) becasue it was malfunctioning. Basically, I think there were "mold spores" floating around at work after this got sprayed into the air at work and coupled with my bad diet, stress and maybe some mold at home(with most windows closed now that it is winter) it affected my eyes. Or..maybe it was a fungus I got somehow(the eyeshadow idea?). Either way, I know if this happens again, that I will reach for the Nizoral cream(I need to apply this now once a day for about two weeks to make sure this clears up)
This was also a wake up call for what I was putting IN my body--I will try hard to eat much less sugar and processed food and more fruit, veggies and whole grains.
Again, sorry this was so long and not to the point, but I hope the Nizoral cram and fungus/mold connection might be what is also the answer to other's skin/eyelid problems. And, if I hadn't found boards like this with similar stories, I don't think I would have been able to figure this out(and would have been stuck weeks looking and feeling like hell and dealing with doctors who couldn't help me)
If anyone else has similar symptoms, would appreciate comments.
Thank you all for your wonderful sharing. Two thoughts hit me today, and I apologize for not giving credit to the authors who generated them... not enough time to search for the original posts. I hate plain water and drink a lot of carbonated, sodium-free, sugar-free flavored water. Could my body be suddenly fed up with articifical sweetener? Then there's the house water. We're in a new home on municipal well water with water softener. Actually the house is new to us, but is 7 years old. Water is also filtered thru the fridge and freezer. I wonder if the water softener has ever been flushed and cleaned... could it be harboring mold? Any thoughts on whether I can treat it without flushing it? White vinegar? A little bleach? Lysol liquid?
I started Neem Oil last night and had to get up in the middle of the night to get it OFF of me and change the pillowcase. NAUSEATING. Changed over to EM. This morning the eyes look better, but not even close to healing. Tonight, I will start Oil of Oregano caps, Nizoral treatment, new shampoo, conditioner and soap. Threw away all makeup (I generally was able to go out with none or just a bit of liner, mascara and spot foundation- not any more!), all hair product, soaps, even the liquid soap in the dispensers.
I'll close with saying nothing is new product-wise in our lives. Divorce, moving, new job though... wonder if it's stress finally hitting me. Thanks again all. Hope something, somewhere in these posts helps each of us. Sounds like we are in charge of our own solutions and the docs are clueless. Please continue to update us on your disappointments and victories!
I had the VERY same thing around my mouth last night! Red, itchy rash above and below my mouth(but not anywhere too close to my lips.
I have normally oily skin and have NEVER had any skin rashes or sensitivity(other than pimples) or allergies(except 30 years ago when I had this same thing happen to my eyes and never figured out why) and then right before supper, I noticed tis itchy rash on my face. After supper, it got much worse and even my forehead was getting itchy. I put on jojoba oil and it settled down and now there is no trace of it ttoday. I have been eating really well since Saturday mmorning--no sugar, no wheat--healthy foods, but ate a handful of Cape Cod Potato Chips before supper. Figured they were a okay since it's potatoes, canola oil and sea salt and I have never had any food allergy before(that I know of).
I have also thought of mold in a water supply, too.(your mind goes crazy trying to make all these connections) because
at work we get delivered water in a cooler and a few weeks ago a co-worker said something about the rim was getting moldy and should be cleaned. I didn't pay much attention to it then, but was about to make myself some tea at work today by using the "hot water" nozzle" when I remembered! Could it be? Anyway, I didn't make any tea.
While my eyes looked almost back to normal yesterday(just that criss-cross wrinkled patterned on my upper lids at the inner corners and some discoloration still), my left eye was acting up again this morning. There were two red lines underneath and a very slight puffiness(nothing like before, tho) and it felt weird and dry and tight and a little tingly.
I put my daily dose of the Nizoral cream on it before leaving for work, with just a thin line of pencil liner(purchase new yesterday) and some mascara on my lashes(not even touching the base) and no jojoba oil over the Nizoral cream. Both my eyes still felt weird and tight and dry and the left one was itchy again. I kept my hands of it of it though as much as I wanted to scratch and now, 8 hours later, it feels better after getting home and smearing on some more soothing jojoba oil.
So..I still have to give this some time and while my eyes are not back to complete normal they certainly still look a hundred times better than how they looked a few days ago.
I went to a chiropractor today that does NAET allergy illimination. Everything she tested on me I reacted to. I am a very sensitive person with alot of allergies. Will continue with the allergy illimination treatments and see if it makes a difference. She told me today that the eyes are the outlet for the liver. My liver is in bad need of a cleansing.
Am really sick of this swelled up and red eye, the good thing is that it doesn't itch. Hoping that something works pretty soon.
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About 2 months ago I started using a homemade apple cider vinegar toner. I didn't dare put it anywhere near my eyes. Well, since nothing was helping my new lid problem I decided to try the toner as I recalled seeing someone else post about it here.
I used a DILUTED (1/4 organic ACV 3/4 water) and gently dabbed it over my inflamed areas. Do not swipe it on. Apply some to a cotton pad or ball and squeeze out the excess then dab! It did sting a bit and I immediately covered it with EM. The itch stop completely and the next day all swelling was gone and I was left with a bit of peeling. I continued to dab the diluted ACV solution on both lids 2x per day. IT'S WORKING WONDERFULLY!!!!
If you are going to attempt this use caution , do not get it into your eyes and be sure to dilute it.
PS I use Organic ACV with mother sold in any health food stores.
Whether Neem oil burns or not--is going to depend on a lot of factors, probably?? That is why these homemade remedies must be approached with very great care. That said, it seems doctors, including optho., don't really know how to treat these conditions.
I have experienced itchy eyelids for about 5 months and, same story as all of you, doctors couldn't properly diagnose it and nothing they prescribed worked. I saw this forum last week and tried Egyptian Magic based on all of your rave reviews, but it did not really help me.
It occurred to me yesterday to try Bach Rescue Remedy Cream since I've always had great results with the tincture. I have only used it for one day, so I don't want to speak too soon, but I experienced relief for the first time in forever.
It burned a bit putting it on, but I'm sure that's because my eyes are so raw. I could feel the cream penetrating and softening the thick, scaly skin over the course of the day. I reapplied it a few times and feel much better. There's still more to treat, but so much better for the first time in months. I also had a small rash on my stomach and figured I'd use the cream there too. That is mostly gone today too.
I have never written in a forum like this, but I looked for help online and could not find a suggestion that sounded right or seemed to be targeted at the symptoms I was experiencing until this forum, so just wanted to add what's worked for me in case anyone else is looking for options.
Feel better.
As far I I'm concerned intense burning=wash off immediately! You may be allergic to the item. Slight stinging "may" be ok but it persists for more than a few seconds, wash off.
Please try a home remedy on your neck or face 1st to see if you experience a reaction.
Also, any cream based products will sting or burn and I avoid them.
Thoughts?
I will discontinue use of both products and make sure other items like lotions and costmetics do not contain this ingredient. I think cleaning the eyelids with baby shampoo at least once a day is still a good idea.
Also, I cannot rule out the Vitamin deficiency. I quit taking my multivitamin trying to save cost this past year. So back on the daily vitamins.
And finally, I think we are dealing with more allergies than ever.
I posted on another thread here in detail about my specific symptoms, saying that I think there are two or three different manifestations of similar conditions. But I do want to mention in particular here, that I noticed today that when I itch my eyes with my fingers or after patting on concealer in the undereye area the eyes "burn" and water profusely afterwards. Also my bangs would irritate the eyelids during some of the past bouts. It is almost as if there is a toxin being secreted from my pores, because the tears that come out of my eyes in turn cause the dryness and flaking on the eyelids.
All that to let people know that maybe they should not use their fingers when putting on the various treatments, but instead Q-tips or something similar. I would be interested to hear if that makes a difference to anyone. I have tried many of the oils and lotions mentioned here, but have put them on with my fingers up to now. Am going to retry some of them sine nothing has helped up to now.
I've thrown away all feather bed (quilts, pillows)items that can harbor dust mites. I bought a mattress pad dust mite protector as well. I vacuum thoroughly often and I put my pillow into the dryer on high heat occasionally to kill off anything that might be living there.
While this has made a big big difference I still get the occasional episode although they have become manageable.
Currently I am using ACV diluted!!!! on my lids 2x per day (Do not do this if your lids are completely inflamed!) and layer it with EM. I found that my favorite concealer , Cle de Peau was causing a rash on my lower lids so I switched to Lancome Effacernes with no problem. I do not wear any other eye makeup except for mascara. I don't dare.
Please keep in mind that some of the suggested remedies here are 2 part. Some that relieve symptoms and those that prevent symptoms. My regimen is a preventive one at the moment.
Have a nice day people!
I don't know what the trigger is/was but a friend of mine said she became sensitive to make up she had been using for years.
I will let you all know if this continues to work!!