AGP Dance off continues

Season....6 I think.  Here we go dancing with the follies!  

Magda leads in season number 4 with a whopping 30 follies.  Go Magda!  Heather Jo won season number 5 of the Implantation Follies, Lexima came in a close second!  Mary, Fiona, Jen, and Sam are gearing up, gathering speed and twirling with such grace and beauty it's anyones guess how this will turn out.  Lisa won the Libido round, but is hoping to join the Implantation dance this time around.  Helen, of course is twirling, though she's on the bench for short recovery period from a mild ovarian injury, heal Helen, heal!  Jackson, is temporarily on the side lines as well.  AF is currently holding her back.  Da*m beeatch!   But, she also has a mild injury delaying her entry into the follie dance we are all praying for a speedy recovery and hoping to see her twirliing again very soon.  Dee, well what can we say about Dee.  She's been our commentator, judge, secretary and comic relieve.   She's worn so many hats, we are all just very impressed.  This'll be her first entry into the follie dance with the coach Lupron, and (not sure) coach Follistim, or is it Gonal F?  I know Gonal F's fees run a bit higher.  Either way Dee's in good hands and we are all pulling for her.

OK dancers,  set your shoes, breath deep,  and.......DANCE!  Let the Follies begin!

[ms320]

Lisa:  You seriously crack me up.  I feel like you should be writing for a comedy show.  Don't stop teaching though, because the little ones really need positive people in their lives.  I wish you had been my teacher when I was young -- although that would have been strange since I am older than you.  I know what you mean about hiding your head during the 2ww.  I found that this was, by far, the most difficult 2ww I have endured.  I think it is still the whole shock from the cancelled IVF.  Last week, I really felt AF knocking on my door.  My security system must have scared her away, since I've had no sign of her for days now.  I will not POAS - the beta on Monday will tell.

Helen:  You must be tired from all of the dancing and twirling you are doing.  Hope you are staying hydrated :)  I very much appreciate your kind thoughts, especially in light of what you are going through right now.

Magda:  How stressful was that with DH.  Like you aren't under enough stress without a cardiac scare.  In terms of subcutaneous injections, my RE specifically told me to use my belly.  She didn't give me a reason, nor did I ask.  She said it, so I did it.  I did notice on the medication instruction sheet they showed administration in either the belly or thighs.  My meds ( Ganirelix, Menopur, Follistim) did not list the arms as an option.  If I get the opportunity, I will do some research on the absorption of injections given at different sites.

Fiona:  Hope all goes well tomorrow.  Please let us know what the final results are.

Dee:  Thanks for updating the list.  Can't wait to hear the latest results of your b/w on the 19th.

Heather:  What can I say to my favorite mom of 3.  Hope the nausea is under control.   Rest, rest, rest adn take care of yurself.  When you are not resting, please log on and let us know how you are doing.  ((HUGS)) (cyber of course)

[babyalive]

Thank you Mary for the nice compliment.  I know I keep myself pretty amused most of the time.  Glad you can get some comic relief as well!  

I think I'll post this question on the forum to open it up a bit, but want to ask you ladies about implantation bleeding.  I know it occurs in only 20% of pg and that it occurs between 6dpo and 12dpo.  BUT, has anyone had it earlier?  I had a bit of spotting at 3 dpo.  Not even enough to mention.  Not even really spotting, just very, very faint pink on the tissue.  But, today at 4dpo, I had definite pink spotting and I feel like AF is on her way, cramping, lower back pain, emotional.  It's a bit early for both AF and implantation. So, I was just curious is anyone had implantation bleeding that early.  (I know my head isn't too far in the sand for me to make note of this.  I'll bury it again soon.)

[Helen72]

Hmmm, I don't know what that can be.  Lexima had implantation bleeding but it was much later in the game.  Last time I had IUI my doc had difficulty finding my cervix opening and I had some mild spotting early on.  However, if you did not have some spotting right away after your IUI this is unlikely to be due to the procedure.  I am really not sure what can be causing it.  If this is implantation you can probably get a very early BFP though :)

[HeathJo]

Magda--You poor people! I am so glad dh is doing better!!!! Maybe you guys can take a short little weekend vacation or something. Be sure not to let dh get too overheated or take hot baths, showers, use heating pads. Raising body temperature can increase the heart rate and bp. He also needs lots more water right now. My prayers are with you both.

Fiona--You are on my mind and I am praying for success tomorrow :-)

Mary--Hey--don't touch me! (HAHAHA) Thanks as always for a laugh at your dry wit, and also for your sentiments. Good girl for not POAS yet!! I am glad AF seems to be keeping her distance also.

Lisa--Your creativity never ceases to amaze me, even in the face of the 2ww and weird spotting :-D All I can say is whatever is going on with you is something different than usual, and maybe that in itself is a good sign.

Helen--When will they check on this cyst again? I guess it is "good" it has been there a while already so it goes away sooner. I have gotten corpus ltuem cysts off and on for years, and they always resolve pretty quickly, especially after AF. Is this the type you have?

Dee--I have another u/s March 26th, so you can add that to the "list"

I hope all this twirling you guys are doing pays off! Poor Helen and Lisa, you must be more nauseated than I am!!!!!

[empty]

Lisa - can i have some of your libido. The nasal spray has absolutely killed it for me. Re: the implantation bleed - from my googling most people seem to get it about 7-10dpiui. i doubt its A/F though. I am going to bump your post in a minnie.

FiFi - retrieval 16th March
Magda - doing shots
Jackson Angel - bloods 17th March
Mary - testing 17th March
Dee - bloods 19th March
Helen - u/s 21st March
Heather - u/s 26th March winner of most number of babies and survivor AGP
Lisa - TWW (4dpo)
Jen - IUI in 2 weeks
Sam- IUI in 2 weeks
Amy - might hold off TTC for a bit

Dee
1.30pm Sunday

[babyalive]

Well, I was just telling my girlfriend of "down there" that I am really going to miss the injections because they really did pick things up "down there".    Although it's still hanging on, though for what good it does me without a dh.   But, if I have any libido left over to share I will certainly twirl some your way!

[magda_s]

Lisa, excellent intro... you go girl !!!
Dee, Jackson_Angel, Helen, Lisa, Mary, Helen... thanks all for your concern about DH.  Yes, it was pretty freaky but he's fine. J_A, it really was purely caused by work-stress!!!  There's a lesson for us all to consider what's more important in our lives!  Now to get that lesson through a thick male skull !!!!!!!!
Heather, I wish I COULD get him to take a break but whenever I try to insist on a break or on him making a point of coming home from work on time or anything like that he tells me that he'll just end up more stressed when, as a result, he has even MORE work piled up!!!  What the hel l can I say to that??
That said, I'm going to look into flights and stuff to Istabul.  He LOVES Istanbul and it's only a 2 hour flight and he does have 3 to 4 days off in a few days.  Thing is, we have to go back to Beirut for his tests.  But if I can find a flight FROM Beirut and the timings work out, I might just surprise him with it!
I gotta say, you ladies are giving me a headache with all your twirling!!!  And here I feel like I'm very much just plodding along.  I feel like a beached wale as am still sick with whatever tummy bug I picked up in India and am unbelievably bloated and feel soooo lethargic.  No twirling from me!
Re the belly shots.. I have to admit, I too have plenty of extra layering there but I'm not so sure I feel a need to have DH examining it quite as closely as he would be doing if he was giving me shots there!!!  Just kidding... might have to give that a try.
Mary, thanks for the info.  My shots actually didn't come with any info sheet!! Typical over here!  
But Lisa, you really think it wouldn't be an issue because I seem to be a 'good producer'?
I'll have to just ring the doc and ask him.
Lisa, re the pink spotting... I had that happen after my second IVF.  In the end my doc said it was most likely just from a cervical scratch or something from the procedure.  Sounds strange what with it being a few days later but apparently it can happen.  Now I have no idea what the procedure is for an IUI and if it can happen as a result of that but point being, I really think you should tell your doctor as mine literally doubled (if not more) the progesterone I was taking "just in case".  
I don't mean to worry you but better safe, right?  Then again, if it's stopped, I guess it isn't important.
Fiona, good luck today!!!!!!  ooohh... lucky woman.. you get to have anasthetic!!
tee hee ;-)

[Helen72]

I am holding my fingers crossed for you today and hope that everything goes smoothly!

I hope you are getting plenty of rest.

[magda_s]

Why am I not getting email notices when there are new posts???  Has this happened to anyone else.  I thought maybe I had just forgotten to click on "Watch this thread" but no... it's clicked!

[babyalive]

Fiona,  We are all thinking of you and sending you lots and lots of babydust.  I'm twirling my magic wand your way right now!  

Magda, My e-mail notices come in pretty regularly.  Maybe you have a spam filter that is blocking some of yours?

BTW - I really don't think it matters where you do your injections because it appears your a good responder to the meds.  Compare how your body has responded in relation to Fiona, Mary and Myself who only produced 3 follicles.  Yet you've produced literally 10 times that.  So, I think it really is a professional preference for each dr.  as to where they suggest you inject.  In cases like Mary, Fiona and I it probably does matter a great deal since we are not responding at the level and rate that you are and we need every extra push we can get.  I say just inject wherever is most comfortable, or least painful.  Your body is all connected and you'll be absorbing the meds either way.

Helen,  I cancelled my cable television today.  Couldn't afford the extra expense any longer so I'm with you in being without cable. Though I will get basic local channels, so I should still get AI.  Got to have my AI!

[magda_s]

Thanks Lisa for the 'vote of confidence'!!!  I guess I'm just afraid that I did so well before because of the protocol the other doctor was using and now I'm afraid that I won't respond well.  But as I keep saying, I chose to go with this doctor and now I have to let the poor man do things his way and stop thinking at every step, "But that's not how my last doctor did it."

Oh and... all of a sudden, now I'm getting the email notices!!  Go figure.

[fifi blue]

Hi Ladies, thanks so much for all you good wishes.  Madga, the anesthetic was awesome!  IVF went very well.  As I suspected there was only 2 follicles but there was eggies in there unlike the last time.  I'm just so relieved right now.  I'll find out on Tuesday if they fertilised and if so then transfer on Wednesday.  I know I took a big risk going forward with only 2 but I need to know about the quality.  I'm feeling really good, no pain at all just the anesthetic making my head a little woozy.

My mother called me on Friday to tell me my brother and his wife are expecting a baby in the Fall.  So, that's my two brothers expecting babies.  I'm hoping it comes in three's and that I'm next.

Madga, I'm so relieved your dh is okay.  
Mary, good luck tomorrow.  I'm praying for you.
Jackson Angel, thinking of you too.
Love to all
Fiona

[Helen72]

I am glad that everything went well and you are feeling OK.  When will they give you fertilization results?   I am praying for 2 great embryos for you.  
Take care of yourself!

[magda_s]

Fiona, glad you enjoyed the anasthetic!! (can't wait for mine... tee hee...)
Thank you, yes, I am SO relieved too.  In fact, the last few days, ever since we went to see this doctor in Beirut, we've been ever so soppy and lovey dovey with each other.  I mean, it's very sweet but I'm aware that it's a reaction to unspoken fears that I hope we never have to consider again.
Praying hard for 2 embies for you!

[empty]

Hi Fifi

I awoke this morning thinking of you and am so happy for your news! Thats great - you have beaten it. Now onto the next challenge - i hope you have some great embies on Tuesday.

Magda  do you want me to add a ldate to my list for you?

Dee
7.21am Mon

[HeathJo]

Fiona, I am so glad things went well, and am eager to hear how the results are. It makes Wednesday seem so far away :-)

[Jackson_Angel]

So glad you enjoyed the anes~hoping all went great for you too~ OBVIOUSLY cannot sleep ~ nervous about tomorrow/today BW ~ sitting here wondering if we should still be using the Hottub or not ~ ~ anyone..??..went in last night after DH Mother came to dinner to unwind ~ bless the thing for helping ~ !! ~ but don't want to risk anything ~ AF stopped finally (THANK YOU) ~ ready to start LO ~

Madga ~ hoping DH is resting soundly ~ Helen how's everything going ~ better, hopefully ~

Baby dust to all ~ :-))))~~******

[magda_s]

Dee, you're going to think I'm a total dunce but I wasn't sure if "ldate" was a typo or if it means something in particular!?!?!?!
If it's a typo and you just meant to add the next date of the next bit then I can answer that!!!
I have my next Dr. appt on 22 March for u/s.
That's when I find out how much Menogan (like Menopur, Puregon etc) I have to take and I'm a bit concerned about this one because this is the one that my last Doctor had me practically OD on and what caused the 30+ follies.  But this guy doesn't seem to think that many follies is a good thing so he's probably going to go with a lower dose.  I'm just worried that he goes too far the opposite way and I end up with too few... that maybe the last Doctor had me on such a high dose that that's the only reason why I produced so many.
But okay... deep breaths... relax... just go with it and see what happens!!
Besides, my sister comes out with my nephew the very next day and I'm SO excited.  It's the first time she comes to visit me in Damascus and silly though it may sound, she's my big sister and it's the first time she comes to visit me since I got married and sees me with my DH in my home etc etc...
Can't wait.
J_A... sorry but where are you at?  I'm still not caught up on everyone since I got back.  Are you in TWW?  If so, I believe the hottub is a no-no.  But I'm guessing not if you say that AF finally left.  In which case, I don't see why not!
As for DH, no... he is most definitely NOT resting soundly!  He got home from work at 7pm the last couple of nights.  Want to know what time he gets TO work?  7am!!!
This is NUTS.  But then I don't want to stress him out further by nagging him to relax!!!  And this is all because he has a few days of parent meetings after school and today is the last so I'm leaving him alone.  I'm assuming that once they're over, he will come home at a reasonable time.  Besides, he has 5 days off coming up in just a couple of days and we have nothing but gardening and dinner parties (that we're going to, not hosting) planned!
Have a good day all...

[Jackson_Angel]

Hello~ I'm on third day of 2-Menopur and 450 Follistim ~ blood test today ~ hoping all is well....~nervous~

[empty]

Hi Guys,

Magda - Sorry - but yes it was a typo, I did mean a date. How exciting about your sister. I love my sister to bits and have so much fun hanging out with her. Its great she is coming out and gets to see you and DH in your environment. I know where DH is coming from in terms of work piling up when you leave on time etc. i was doing those same hours at my job and until that all ended, i hadnt realised how much work was sucking out of me. Its good he has got you reminding him to take it easy though.

Lisa - are you ok?

Jackson Angel - good luck with the bloods today. Let us know how it goes.

Mary - i am anxious today. please god please.


I have blood work  in 10 hours as I finally got A/F today (8 days late) and hopefully this means I can start injectables tomorrow - please keep all your fingers crossed for me! I need for my prog levels to be LOW!

Guys heres an updated list.

Jackson Angel - bloods 17th March
Mary - testing 17th March
Dee - bloods 18th March
FiFi - transfer  19th March
Helen - u/s 21st March
Magda - u/s 22nd March
Heather - u/s 26th March winner of most number of babies and survivor AGP
Lisa - TWW (4dpo)
Jen - IUI in 2 weeks
Sam- IUI in 2 weeks
Amy - might hold off TTC for a bit

Ok time for some sniffing........

Dee
Mon 9.15pm

[babyalive]

Dee,  Yes, I'm ok.  Just had a very quite weekend.  Today is 6dpo of 2ww and the cramping, lower back pain and spotting has stopped.  Just feel pretty normal now.  

Mary, Good luck with the Beta today!  OMG, I just can not wait to hear back!!  I have such a good feeling about this cycle for you.  14 dpo and no AF, no sign symptom, or "feeling" of her. At least not that you've mentioned.  I'm excited to hear from you today. I'll be checking in when I get a break at work.  It'll be 2pm or so your time.  

[SamLB]

Hi there all of you...sorry if I'm kind of 'out of 'sync' with you guys but living in Italy means I'm ahead of US time-wise...so all your afternoon/evening posts (when I'm tucked up in bed asleep!) I don't get to read until the next day (work  permitting)...Anyway, however much behind I am, thank you to all of you for making this a really great thread - I'm so glad I found you ladies!
Just a quick update (even though Jen and I are at the bottom of the list as we have another 2 weeks before we do IUIs!)...
I was monitored yesterday (had been injecting Menogon for 5 days) - RE said my one and only follie was really small and just not growing very quickly at all. So he's put me on Gonal (slightly stronger, he says) - and double dosage (so 150).
So I'm just thinking - well, it's Easter coming up so lets start producing some bloody EGGS!!!!

Dee - have you had your bloods yet????

Fiona - I'm quite new to this thread but have read your posts and am crossing all fingers for you!

Mary and Jackson Angel - thinking of you guys too. good luck!

Magda  - 30+ FOLLIES!!!!!!!! OMG what dosage were you on?! I've just been upped to double dosage (see above) so hopefully others might start developing and growing like they should! But 30??!!!! Anyway, I'm glad you and DH have got some quality time coming up - so you can relax and enjoy (rather than host!) the dinner parties. And how fabulous that your sister's visiting you too!

Jen - looks like we're going to be going for our IUIs at about the same time...do you have one or two done each cycle? what meds are you on? and how many IUIs have you had so far? sorry to be boring, but I'm only just finding out about you guys here on this thread!

look forward to hearing from you soon!!  :))
hugs from Sam

[Helen72]

Mary,
I just want to wish you luck with your beta today.  I am reeeeeally hoping it's a BFP and you don't have to go through ivf again.  

J_A,
what do you tests show?  I hope it's a green light.
I am OK, thanks for asking; still stuck in the b/c limbo.

SamLB,
you are sooo funny!  Wishing you many eggs for Easter  :)

Fiona,
have you gotten the results?  I hope there is good news on your end.

[SamLB]

Hi Helen! so you have your u/s this Friday right? what stage are you at?

[Helen72]

SamLB,
my u/s is on Thursday.  I am going through the suppression stage of my ivf protocol but cannot start my meds because of a cyst.  I hope the cyst will at least shrink by Thursday.  I feel less nausea and the bleeding/spotting stopped finally so I hope it is going away.  

I totally share your axiety about egg production.  I would like to produce as manny as possible since we pay out of pocket and may not be able to afford another fresh ivf cycle.  I hope to produce many eggs so that we can freeze some if this cycle fails.  But of course, neither you nor myself have any control over what our ovaries are doing.  That's is the most frustrating part.  I hope your body responds well to Gonal-F.  

[SamLB]

I'm so keeping my fingers crossed for you on Thursday. I know it's so frustrating that it's all out of our control (even when on meds)...keep me posted - anyway, you can't get
much closer to Easter than Thursday so keep thinking eggs eggs EGGS! :)

[magda_s]

Thanks for the latest update Dee.. wow, lots of activity over the next few days...
J_A, Mary and Dee, good luck with all the testing and b/w.
Fifi, hope all goes well with your retrieval.
Helen, I have everything crossed for that cyst to be as good as gone by the 21st!Sam, not to worry about the time difference... you're not alone... Dee's in Australia and I'm in Syria so we're covering the time zones pretty well !!! ;-)
Re the Menogan... I was on 4 powder and 2 liquid per day for about 7 days and then he reduced it to 3 powder and 2 liquid for a day and then 2 powder and 1 or 2 liquid (forget which) for a day and finally 1 and 1 for a day.
I have no idea what this new doctor will have me on though.  When I first went to see him, he seemed to think that 4 powder was excessive stimulation.
Personally, I was quite happy... you know how it is... discover you're good at something and it becomes important to you... discover you can't seem to get anything else right and the bit you're good at becomes that much MORE important.  So considering I can't seem to get the rest of it right and the whole follicle production thing seems to be my forte, I'm a little disappointed that he doesn't want to let me use my powers to their fullest!
Lisa, you sound far more sane than I feel during the TWW... good for you!  Fully expecting you throw out some really twisted tid-bit any time now but so far you at least have the appearance of sanity down pat! ;-)

[SamLB]

let's just hope the new doctor gets it right and has you producing a good amount that mature - when do you next see him?

[SamLB]

Dee - only just found out that you're in Australia (thank you magda!) - so yeah, I guess we are all covering the world! Are you Aussie or American? and how interesting you're in Syria magda - are you from there? do you have a good health system etc?
hugs to all! :)

[Jackson_Angel]

Hi girls!~
well, I wasn't able to do the bloodwork ~ DH decided to get lightheaded and needed to be rushed to the doctor after blowing his nose (been on biotics last week and still not feeling very well) ~ so the combination of that and his BPmeds, got a little more than a little worried ~ so 5 minutes away from walking in for the blood test had to do a round-a-bout and fetch him and get to the doc ~ everything ok now ~ doc tyhinks it's inner-ear ~ so postponed bloodtest till tomorrow and get the bonus ultrasound too ~ another night of double Medipure and 450 fillistim ~ hoping all will produce MEGA EGGS ~!!!~ ~

..think it's funny about the Easter theme ~ didn't click until I read it ~ see how caught up in everything I am ~ usually have a quick wit but have been too busy with all ~

hoping EVERYONE has MEGA GOLD EGGS!~**!!**~

Also ~ am on a list for Baby Zone and got an interesting email about nutrition today ~ http://www.babyzone.com/preconception/a2494 ~ and PH of your body "If you're like most people you probably have vague recollections of boring high school chemistry classes when you hear the term pH. Don't let that dull chemistry class stop you from accessing one of the greatest factors for health, including your reproductive health." ~ FYI for ALL OF US!!

enjoy your day ~ another day's wait for me!!~out to get wood for fire while hubby relaxes in massage chair ~ complaining he's cold !!.....not too much of a brat!!
xo

[SamLB]

Yeah, the EGG theme was mine . . . . . EGGS for all of us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hugs to all!

[SamLB]

Jackson_angel  -  hey, hang on in there - DH is a man at the end of the day....!!

you know what really makes me laugh...going to the fertility clinic, which is next to the delivery rooms (and you can even hear the cries of pain when you're in the waiting room, just to make it even worse for us ladies who just can't seem to get pg!) - you see some DHs who come out panting and puffing as is THEY'VE just been throught a whole 6hour ordeal of a labour and birth. They have had to mop a forehead or pass a glass of water or endure some insults thrown at them...but they come out like they've been the principle surgeon in a 12-hour heart transplant operation!!! Just thought that might make you smile!
hugs to all :)

[ms320]

I just got the call.  BFN.  Guess I'll just have to wait and see what my RE wants to do next

[Helen72]

Oh, I am so sorry...  I am sooo angry this is happening to you!  
I just hope that your RE comes with a better plan for you.

[magda_s]

Mary, I'm so very sorry.  I don't know what else to say.
Like Helen said, I hope your doctor comes up with a plan that works for you.

[Jen7900]

Mary - this blows. I'm sorry. I will be praying for a more aggressive plan and execution next month.

Lisa - today is the first day that I have signed on since Friday and am LOVING the new thread intro! You should go into television writing!!

Sam - I am on Follistim (75 units) for now and go in for a u/s on Tuesday (tomorrow) to see how many follies are growin in there! Last month I had 8 and was on a lower dose of Follistim (watch out Magda...I may be creeping up on your follie lead!). Planning to do the IUI on Sat, Mon, or Tues (the latest). Really hoping this is our month or we will have to move to IVF next round. You?

Dee - GOOD LUCK TOMORROW!!!

FIFI - I will be thinking only amazingly positive thoughts for you on Wed. Good Luck girlfriend.

Otherwise, I am waiting for an appt with my GI doc (even more handsome than my RE) to discuss the implications of IVF and meds on my Crohns disease. Hoping there are no adverse reactions from all the hormones and that I can get the go ahead if need be. I will keep you all posted as the week progresses and I have more news.

XOXO

[empty]

Oh Mary - that totally sucks. Ugh!!!! I am so annoyed. what the hell!

[babyalive]

Mary, I am so very sorry.  That blows, sucks, and then some!  I know the disappoinment, we all do and my heart goes out to you.

Jen, Thanks.  One of my jobs before teaching WAS writing for television.  I miss it a lot and often think about going into it again.  But, I just didn't like the lifestyle of being in that business.  I always think I'll eventually write something again, children's books or something.  Maybe I should take Mary's advise and do comedy.  Though not feeling so funny today.  Pesonal life blows at the moment.  I'll get it back soon.   (-:

[HeathJo]

Mary--What can I possibly say? Keep your eye on the prize and don't give up. Remember that your RE has a plan. Big Squeezes (whether you like it or not!)

[SamLB]

I'm so sorry too - it's so hard, you're in my thoughts because i know it's not easy. Hang on in there - we're all with you.

[SamLB]

Jen - 8 follies is geat - you really are catching magda up!! let me know how you get on tomorrow...good luck for the next IUI - right over Easter - that means good EGGS!!! (apart from the chocolate ones!). how many IUIs have you had? Just curious as we're about to have our 3rd IUI and have already started talking IVF with our gyn. good luck :)

[SamLB]

I've only just read your first post on this new thread - and OMG you're sooooooooo right...having just switched from Menogon to Gonal (the latter being slightly stronger, although very much the same thing)...holy COW - it's so expensive! Over here (Italy) Menogon was costing €175 (times that by about 1,5 US dollars) for 10 shots (= 10 days obviously)......I thought that was bad enough..Gonal costs (here) €780 (x 1,5 for US dollars) for 10 shots!! Can you believe it?! And that's only for the meds!

[Jen7900]

I am on the 3rd IUI. The policy at my clinic is to try 3 before moving to IVF. We were going to bypass the 3rd IUI and go straight to IVF, but calendaring gave us a problem and we were forced to do one last one...maybe this will be the lucky one!

I will update tomorrow!

Jen

[Helen72]

I hear you!  I had to pay a few thousand $ for my Gonal-F.  Many ladies on this forum told me that Follistim is basically the same drug but it's much cheaper.  Perhaps you can ask your doc about a possible substitution.

[babyalive]

Hi Sam,

Yes, just as Helen said I have also heard that Follistim and Gonal-F are basically the same thing.  Ask your dr. about it.  Maybe you can go the cheaper route and switch to Follistim.  Good luck!!

Magda, I feel pretty sane in this 2ww.  I'm getting pretty used to it by now.  

[fifi blue]

Mary, I'm so sorry about bfn.  Don't know how to say anything that will be a comfort but know that I'm thinking of you.  God bless.  

[HeathJo]

Hey Sam--I don't understand all your little Italian symbols for money, but I "capeche" how expensive TTC is!!!! I paid about US $1300 for the Follistim Pen I used, which had 600 units on it. I also did 3 IUI's, the 3rd being the lucky one (and we ALL know how lucky it was!)

Jen--Maybe it is a blessing that you have to do IUI again this month. I hope the Hawaii trip helps you guys out :-) We got engaged there, in Maui at Ka'anapali beach. I am so jealous of you! If i went now people would already mistake me for a whale!!!!

Fiona--When do you get your results back?

Magda--You and dh just chill out during his days off. Sometimes traveling can be stressful, too.

J. Angel--So sorry your b/w got postponed! Sounds like you, as we all, already have a baby DH at home :-) I call my dh my "baby husband" all the time, and he LIKES it!!!

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Exciting news - i get to start my injections tomorrow 75 of Puregon. I still have to sniff though (half dosage). But finally things are happening!!!

[Helen72]

Congrats!!  Wishing you many eggs for Easter  :)

[HeathJo]

Hey--I uploaded some photos in my "Photo" section. The wedding pic includes my Mom and 2 of my sisters, my FIL and BILs, and my neice and nephews-in-law.  Apparently a couple of you thought I was tall, but I am only 5'3" 1/4", so I had to dispel the rumor!

I'll post big fatty pg pictures as soon as I get the nerve!

[magda_s]

Lisa, Glad to hear the TWW isn't so bad.  I wonder if I'm learning to deal with it too!!!  I guess we'll see soon enough.  But I'm sorry to hear you weren't feeling too great.  I hope you're doing better now.  

Heather, so cool to see your pic!  It's such a weird feeling to be able to put a face to the name.  Granted you've had the little wedding photo up for a while now but it doesn't show you clearly.  Very cool!  I might post a couple my self this afternoon.

Dee, great news re the shots but sorry you have to carry on sniffing.  Do be careful how you put things though... I had this image of you leaning over a little white line on a mirror!!!!!!  Ha ha ha ha...

Fiona, good luck tomorrow.

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Heather i love the pics! The one with your niece is so cute.

You started something here - how tall is everyone? I am 5'6.

Heather & Magda - thanks so much, i am so bloody excited! Magda, hahaha yes in my head i wish the effects were that of the white line but sadly i just land up gagging!!

Dee
7.30 Tues

[Jackson_Angel]

Ok up to starting the day for my trip for BW/US ~  what is Puregon..??.another brand of Follistim..??..and what type of nasal spray are you guys talking about..??..~I have sinus problems so you can't be talking about Afrin!!~:-)~

Mary ~ hang in there ~ sorry to hear, but am in same boat ~ hoping to get news of alot of follies and able to do IUI this weekend ~ BUT ~ HD family planniong on eating over so if IUI Sunday ~ that will have to be postponed ~:-)~....will NOT be waiting another month ~

Magda ~ traveling is VERY stressful ~ I do love vacaing, but getting home to all the clean up afterwards is something I put off and end up just lazing around a few days afterward ~ enjoy your time off ~

Heather ~ aren't they all babies ~ it's SO funny how they make such a big thing out of the little things ~ just imagine them prego ~ :-0~

DH still feels really lightheaded for some reason ~ DR says it may be inner-ear and setting him off balance ~ don't know what next step will be, but my BW comes first today no matter what ~

Have a good day all!! ~ w/b looking @pics ~ I'm 5'5"~:-)~

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Hi there,

Firstly good luck on your bloodwork and ultrasound. As I am in Australia, the brand names differ a little so Puregon is like Gonal F or Follistim. Thye have also put me on a nasal spray called Synarel and you might be familiar with Lupron as the brand name. I have a very strange protocol for an IUI so I wouldnt use me as a good example unless i get a BFP of course :)

Dee
10pm Tues

[fifi blue]

Dee, congrats on starting the meds.  You must be relieved and excited.
Jackson, hope your dh feels better soon.

I should get a call between 3:30pm - 6pm today to find out it my eggies fertilized.  If so then retrieval will be tomorrow.  I'm really praying that at least one does.  Of course I'm steeling myself for bad news.

Heather, you're a giant! I'm 5' 2".

[SamLB]

Yippeeee - when are you going for monitoring? Fingers crossed for those Easter eggs!!

[SamLB]

will be having my 3rd IUI soon - thanks for helping me keep positive! after last month's disappointment I'm trying not to be too hopeful - but you're the prove that it CAN work!!

[babyalive]

Fiona - You're a giant, I'm 5 "1"!   Here's to beautiful, fertilized eggs!!!!

Dee - How goes the shots?

Heather - I'll be checking out these new photos in just a sec.

Jackson - Sorry about dh.  It does sound like an inner ear issue they can make one very dizzy, lightheaded, off balance, quesy.  I've had them.  No fun.  Hope the b/w and u/s give you good info. today!

Dear Sparky and I are off for our morning walk.  Not much happening, though I must say Helen did ask me last night how I was feeling "down there".  Thanks Helen, I was beginning to think no one cared anymore.  (-:

[SamLB]

OK, so joining in on this height info - I'm 5'4" (not very tall, I know - good job I like heels!)..

Jen7900 - don't lose hope even if it's another IUI before going on to IVF... look at HeathJo - an inspiration to all us IUI'ers! we are also going to do another 2 or 3 (have done 2 already) before moving onto IVF. When are you having it done? any idea yet?

babyalive - I know the 2WW never ends, well done you for keeping sane! when can you test?

[babyalive]

Lovely pics Heather.  You're as gorgeous on the outside as that lovely uterus on the inside!

[babyalive]

OK.  I seriously must get off my arse and go for that walk.  But, one more comment from the posting queen.   Has anyone heard from Lexima?  It's been a while and I am curious how she is getting along.

[ms320]

Hi everyone.  Thank you all for your kind words.  I am really okay.  I never let my hopes get to high, so it was not totally unexpected.  I guess I had a glimmer of hope because yesterday was 16dpiui.  Oh well, funny thing happened this morning.  I woke up and realized that the earth had continuned to rotate on its axis and revolve around the sun.  The moral of the story:  Life goes on.  And, so will I.  My RE is out of town until tomorrow.  Hopefully she will touch base with me before the end of the week and let me know the est course of action to take.

Heather:  I love the pics.  You are too cute.  I guess I was one of those who imagined you being tall.  I assumed you were about 5'10"

Fiona:  I hope you get a fabulous report tonight. It is really very exciting.

Lisa:  How is the 2WW going. Are you feeling anything.................................................down there.

Dee:  Congrats on beginning the injectibles.  

Helen:  Hang in there.  Friday will be here before you know it.  I hope the cyst is shrinking as I type.


I will look and see if I have any "normal" pictures of myself to upload.  I am the one who always makes faces.  I think I might also have a few of myself dancing at a party with a napkin tied on my head as a do rag.  Wow, I can imagine what type of pictures I might have if I still drank.  Yikes.

In terms of height, I am 5'6".  I am the shortest in my family with the exception of my mother who loses about an inch every few months now.  However, it looks like I do not have to play point guard if AGP forms a basketball team.  Yeah.

Since we are all getting to know one another so well in terms of pictures and descriptions, I think we should all share something about ourselves.  Maybe something "different", strange, embarrassing etc.  Although I am not a big sharer, let me begin.  I have been hit by a car.  Twice.  11 years apart, and each incident occurred on the same street.  Freaky right.  So now you know, never let Mary lead you across the street.

[Helen72]

Mary,
I am glad you are looking into the future.
Since you are like me, not a big sharer, you can make your pictures available only to people on your friends list.  Dee actually told me about that option.  Otherwise, I am too paranoid that someone I know may find me here.
I am pretty short 5'3'' at most (without Heather's additional 1/4) but Lisa told me that from my posts she already imagined me as a shorty  :)
As for sharing, I actually got hit by a bus when I was about 10.  I was J-walking and the driver was drunk so the blame was on both sides.  

On a completely different topic, can someone suggest an anti-nausea& vomiting medication?  I started vomiting at about 4 am and cannot stop.  We have none at home since this never happens to me.  I am supposed to hold office hours till 6 pm but hope to pick up something from CVS if anyone can propose a miracle cure.  
Thanks ahead for your help!

[magda_s]

Lisa, good point... I've been wondering about Lexima too!  Anyone?
Have you gone for your walk or are you still there poised to post!?!?!?!
By the way, LOVED your comment about Heather's pictures!!!!

J_A, I'm actually a bit disappointed I couldn't whisk DH off.  I know travel can be stressful... but he so loves it there and considering where we live, it's a refreshing break. It's been a few years and the novelty of Syria is waning.  It just doesn't have the stuff of every day life and is quite conservative. Plus Turkey's only a 2 hour flight!  However, the timings didn't work and in the end, gardeing and attending dinner invites does sound perfectly relaxing... so long as I can prevent him from "popping in to the office for just a couple of hours"!!!!
I sincerely hope your DH doesn't have an inner ear infection.  I spent a week in hospital because of that and it was just awful.  Lasted over a month in total and I had to move very, very carefully !!!

Fiona, any news???  Sorry, I'm not sure where exactly you are to know the time difference.  I'm sending all the positive thoughts and vibes that I can.  I so hope they fertilised.  

Dee, at least now you know you could never be coke head... if you can't handle a little spray up your nose how are you supposed to deal with powder??? Tsk... honestly!!!!  
k... don't know WHY I'm saying this like it's a bad thing!!!  ;-)

Heather, let us know when you get those preggo pics up!  Are you really actually showing already??  I'm so clueless about when one does but it just seems so soon!!

Mary, how are you doing?  Any news from your RE??

[magda_s]

Mary ... I don't know how I missed your post before posting mine!!  I guess I took a long time writing!  You sound great and that's good to hear.  I think we've probably all been there.. the waking up and realising that surprise, surprise, the world's still turning.  Very insensitive of it really but in the long run I guess it's a good thing!
The car story is classic!
Hmmm... haven't I done enough damage to my image going on about loving the anasthetic part of all this???
OMG ... Helen, I just read about you getting hit by a bus!  What's with you people getting hit by moving vehicles?? Is it an American thing???  (tee hee...)
Sorry you're not feeling well.  I find Gravol works BRILLIANTLY.  Makes you sleepy though so don't take it if you need to stay too wide awake for anything... I know you said you have office hours but uni kids will probably figure you just smoked a joint or something!!

[babyalive]

To all...2 ww is going fine, just another day in paradise so they say.  The world is still turning on it's axis as Mary said.  I'm dealing with romance discourd so it is taking many of my thoughts away from 2ww.  Though I must say I would much prefer the 2ww to this other type of torture.  However, I know this too shall pass and in the end is a very good thing.  Yet, in the meantime, it is just very difficult.  

Fiona - anxiously waiting!

Sam - I can test Easter Sunday (I'll be 12dpo then), though I may wait the full 14 days which would fall on Tues - a week from today.

[fifi blue]

Just got the call.  I have one embryo to transfer tomorrow afternoon at 12:30.  I'm so relieved.  I've been so anxious all day.  My face looks like a beetroot, someone at work asked if I was okay.  I look like I'm about to have a stroke!

Thanks Ladies for all your good wishes.  

Now I've got to go and throw some cold water on my face.

Fiona

[Helen72]

Congrats!  I am so relieved!  
I hope they give you some valium tomorrow for the transfer (this is what I was promised anyways).  Infertility should definitely come with valium for all of us struggling here on this forum  :)  In any case, I hope you'll be able to finally relax and rest.
Sending you much SSBD.  

[Jackson_Angel]

Hi all ~ well, U/S revealed two 9's and a 12 on the left then the 18-19on the right ~ Dr took photo of a mass ~ don't know what - went too quickly with all going on ~ perhaps a cyst ~ think I should ask/should have asked...??..~ was too nervous about DH being in waiting room ~

Helen ~ interesting you're being paranoid ~ just for the heck of it "Googled" my "name" here ~ and came up with everything I've ever written ~ here and otherwise ~ it is all over ` which means your pic will also be shared all over ~ best to keep them private, which ~ I will be removing mine ~ the net is an interesting thing for those honest and otherwise which is where the weirdos take over ~ ~FYI~~and as far as nausea try Coca Cola or ~ cola syrup you can get at the pharmacy ~ it works great ~ hoping all is well!!

[HeathJo]

Mary--I am glad you are doing well. Yes, life goes on, but still, it's not always easy. And, OMG, hit by a car twice???? On the same street? What are the chances? I am glad you are OK, and I hope you weren't too injured at the time(s). You thought I was 5'10'? Are you kidding? I don't even know any women that tall!

Helen--You poor thing, I can relate. Honestly, RX meds are the only ones that have ever worked for me--Phenergen or Zofran. Can you call your doctor and have them phone in a prescription? Saltines and ginger ale are what I use when I have nothing else, but I can't say they really work. If you can, get some sprite, ginger ale, and gator ade so you don't get dehydrated. The only other thing I can think of is Dramamine, for motion sickness, it is OTC. Ask the pharmacist at CVS if they have any suggestions also.

Fiona--CONGRATULATIONS!!!! I am so excited for you, and you will be in my thoghts and prayers tonight and tomorrow.

Magda--No, I am not really showing yet, I just look bloated in the tummy and it looks like I got a boob job. But, I feel so fat because my ovaries are a bit swollen and I DO have 3 embies in there. I will be 8 weeks tomorrow, and although it is a bit early for most people to show and stuff, in my case things are happenning earlier and more intensly. I have just gained weight TTC and with hormonal issues, so I feel fat in general. It all happenned really fast also, in a matter of a few months, and I am used to being "petite". Oh well, it is my time just to be chubby until after these babies are born. Hopefully chasing after kids will help get the extra weight off!

I have not been as nausous the last few days, and it is SOOOOOO nice! I am hoping it lasts, but not holding my breath. I have an appt. with my OB next Monday 3/24, my RE next Wednesday 3/26, and the perinatologist on April 7th. Busy!

My dh told his Dad we are pg--his mom knew already. We are supposed to spend Easter with them and the WHOLE huge family, but I am not sure if I want to go yet. People have been watching me for pg signs since we got married, and I feel like it is kind of obvious already just because my boobs are so PERKY and big, and my tummy is a size bigger clothes-wise. I am just not sure if I am ready to deal with la Cosa Nostra quite yet.

[magda_s]

Oh Fiona, I'm SO happy for you.  I'm sorry it wasn't both but hey, like everyone says... all you need is the one, right?  Keeping everything crossed for you.
Now about that valium...
Errr.. Helen, you were just kidding about that, right???

J_A, those follicles sound alright!  As for the 'mass', I'm assuming that if your doctor didn't make a point of saying anything about it then it must not be an issue, right???

[Helen72]

Magda,
it's actually very common here to give valium during ivf transfer.  I heard that before on this forum and it is in my protocol.  So, I am not kidding.  I never tried it so am very excited about that.

I finish my office hours in an hour and a half; contemplating going to ER if my nausea does not go away.  I am hoping that my cyst ruptured but more likely it's just food poisoning  :(

[ALT76]

Hey ladies -

I just got af today and I'm about to start my first cycle on injectables for my first IUI!  I did 5 rounds of clomid for PCOS w/o success, then found out I had endometriosis, so this will be my first attempt at anything since surgery in Dec to remove the endo.  I was wondering if any of you had any advice for me, and I was also wondering if any of you tried clomid as well as injections?  I had a HORRIBLE time on clomid, so I'm just wondering if I'm in for more of the same on the injectables?  I've heard from some that they are easier.

Thanks!
- Amy

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Amy, clomid was horrible for me too but no problems with injectable.  You must be so excited to get going again.  Good luck.
Madga, yes I will be getting valium.  Can't believe you don't get some to settle your nerves during transfer.  
J_A, follies sound really good.  I'm sure whatever the dr saw was nothing.  Just being careful.  
Heather, glad you're feeling better.  Do worry about the weight, like you said once you're running after all those kids it'll fall off (the weight i mean).
Mary, glad you're doing okay.  You're in my thoughts.
Lisa, I hope you're okay.  You didn't sound like yourself.  Hope you get the romance problem sorted soon.  All I can say is "men"!!
Helen, you poor thing, hope you feel better soon.  

[HeathJo]

Amy--I was unsuccessful w/Clomid also, but got pg my first round of injectables. Good Luck!

Helen--You should put yourself out of misery and go to the hospital. Otherwise, you will get dehydrated, They'll give you some IV fluids and Phenergen for the nausea, and send you home with some Phenergen to take. Plus, they need to figure out what is wrong. I am very worried about you, so please go see a doctor, OK?? Can you get the day off tomorrow?

[ms320]

Helen:  Sorry to hear about the severa nausea and vomiting.  That is the pits.  You should definately call a doc or go to the ER.  Tigan has worked well for me in the past.   Until this subsides, I agree with Heather.  Drink gatorade because you are most surely dehydrated and your electrolytes need to be replenished.  

Feel better

[babyalive]

Helen, my little tower of strength, I'm so sorry to  hear about your nausea!  I really hope you've gone to the ER.  There are lots of things they can give you to help with the nausea.  I would suggest the same things Heather did, gatorade and Dramamine.  But, why suffer.  Just go to ER and have them hook you up with an IV.  I don't know what they've given me, but I've been to the ER a couple of times the last yr or two with severe vomiting and nausea and each time they give me an IV with some anti-nausea meds and it relives it straight away.  I do hope you've gone and they've hooked you up.

Fiona,  I'm sorry.  I don't mean to worry anyone because our ttc journeys are full of much more meaningful suffering than my romantic drama.  But, I am not myself, you are right.  I'll be back soon.  Just been dealing with a break-up that has been intensified by recent news of infidelity.  I'm sort of reeling from the news, but in the end I realize I have only had my eyes opened and gotten a big bite of reality.  Reality is difficult to face, though it's good for me to face what I've been avoiding.

On a more positive note, I am so happy you have a little embie fertilized!  Oh, I am just so,so sooooooooooooooo happy for you!!

Mary in the spirit of revealing something about ourselves, I guess I covered that huh?

Amy, I had a tough time the first couple of months on Clomid, then sort of got used to it and liked it because it took away my PMS.  I also produced well on it in terms of follices.  Just finished my first month on injectables and the good side was an amazingly increased libido.  The down side was that I didn't produce much in terms of follicles.  Several of us here on AGP have done very well on injectables.  You should do great.  Good luck!

Jackson - the follices sound great!  An 18 and a 19 that is terrific!!  Though I am a bit confused by the mass. Hmmmm......

Wait a minute, did I read right??? Helen had been hit by a bus?  Magda, I missed that????

Mary, OMG I am so sorry I was so self-absorbed I didn't jump on the being in two car accidents story.  Did you come out unscathed each time?  Were you injured?  How long ago were they?

Heather, I'm jeolous.  You've got the gorgeous uterus, wonderful feti, beautiful face and now your boobs are amazing.  OMG.  I want some of that!

Dee, What's up?



  

  

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Hi Guys

Had to go  for interviews this morning - naturally my heart wasnt in it as i am totally loving being at home. But hey someone has to pay for these meds i am on!

Helen - how was the visit to the docs?

FiFi - omg I am so happy you got yourself an embie. Now i want you to lean into the petrie dish and say  "you better do your bit you hear".

Lisa - you wanna me to bring around my friends from low places to sort things out with this clown for ya?

Mary - I am glad things are sorta getting there. I send you many hugs (all virtual and not touching of course). I cant believe you got hit twice on the same street. Do you still walk on that street?

Amy (alt 76) - me too!!!! I start injectables tonight for my first IUI. I think theres a few of us who will probably have IUI at the same time (approx 2 weeks) - Jen and Sam, me and you.

Dee
3.30pm Wed

[HeathJo]

babyalive--Believe me, the picture you paint of me is misleading. Yes, the boobs are nice, but my face is chubby, I have more chins than a Chinese phone book, and the tops of my thighs are starting to rub together and could start a fire! As for my usterus and the feti, well, I guess they look pretty good! Otherwise I feel like Jabba the Hut from Star Wars, or Grimace, but without the purple skin :-(

[Jen7900]

So I was supposed to have my u/s today but was called for jury duty!! And to make it worse, i was actually placed on a jury (UGH). I tried to tell the judge that i have an u/s scheduled tomorrow and will be late. I am NOT giving up this cycle for some random porno  chick in a lawsuit (sorry that is me venting!). I still cant believe they actually want a clinical psychologist on the jury...nobody has ever wanted me before!!

U/S tomorrow to see how my follies look. IUI should be Sat, or Mon, Tues - we'll know more tomorrow.

HeathJo - LOVE your photos! Can't wait to see the preggo belly pics! I am sure you look gorgeous and glowing!

Helen - PLEASE take care of yourself. It is important to stay hydrated. Why suffer when there are things the docs can do to make life better? I'm hoping you feel better really soon.

BTW - I am 5'8" (almost 5'9")...a REAL giant compared with all of you!! I think my height might interfere with my dance moves in the follie dance off! You know how us giants tend to trip over our feet!

Jen

[magda_s]

k... never actually thought to ask anyone if tey had to deal with this too but Heather, now that you mention it... I've been devastated over the last several weeks because I've gained a sh*t load of weight!!!  Is this actually a result of the hormones???  I gained like 5kg (or 11Lbs).  Actually I gained more but I lost some so I'm now 5kg more than I was before.  So is this normal???
Heather I feel for you.  But then I'm guessing that the boobs, having an excuse to go out and buy new bras... oh yeah, and them three little embies... make the weight gain the least of your concerns.
Helen, I genuinely thought you were joking about the valium!  How many mg do they tell you to take?? I'll tell you a story about valium... actually, this probably fulfills Mary's "telling something about ourselves" thing... when I first moved to Hong Kong I was terrified of having to spend 16 hours (Toronto to HK) on a plane.  I had no idea they could KEEP planes in the air that long!!!  Point being, I am claustrophobic, have a VERY bad back, cannot sleep on planes (at least, couldn't at the time) and WAS a heavy smoker... AND I was flying cattle class!!!
So my now DH suggested valium and I went straight out and got some.  I was told to try it before flying to see how much I would need and that i should try 2mg and if that wasn't enough I could go up to 3mg.
So here I am on the plane, and I pop 3 mg because the 2 the night before did nothing for me.  But after a while I'm thinking the 3 aren't doing anything either and I'm worried so I pop a 4th.  Now for SOME reason, I was thinking I should be getting drowsy.  I am well aware that that is not the effect of valium but for some reason I got that in my head and that was that.  So when the 4mg didn't seem to be doing anything I went with 5.  I ended up taking NINE mg of the stuff and when they finally announced that we were landing, the first thought through my head was, "Oh!  Already???"
It was brilliant!  Basically, I was still claustrophobic and my back still hurt and I still wanted a cigarette etc... but I just didn't care!  Didn't CARE that I was in a small cramped space miles above the surface of the earth, didn't CARE that I couldn't smoke, didn't CARE that my back hurt...
Now I always take valium when doing long haul flights... but I stick to 2 or 3 mg!
Mary, no WONDER you don't like being touched!!!  Duh!  Don't think I would after being hit by a car ... TWICE!!!
Lisa, I'm truly sorry that you're having to deal with the relationship trouble you're going through... Sure, our ttc journeys are fraught with enough melodrama but all the more reason why I'm sorry you're having to deal with romantic issues too!  I know this doesn't help right now but I hope that through it all you can see that he obviously doesn't deserve you.
Jen, you're a clinical psychologist?  That's what I was planning to do.  Got my degree in psych but then packed it in.  Didn't have it in me to carry on with futrther studies at the time due to family issues and then started working overseas and just never looked back.  But I still have a deep interest in psychology.
Dee, you made me laugh... how unusual !!! ;-) ...with your comments to Fiona, Lisa and Mary!

[Jackson_Angel]

Hi girls ~ really nervous here ~ want to go out and get an Ovulation kit to be sure the IUI isn't missing the prime time ~ which is the best out there..??..anyone know???

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Hey there, I use internet cheapies and so far i cant say they have worked. I think babyalive mentioned the ones with the smiley face is her choice as there is no guesswork on the line that appears.

[jbrooks39]

have any of you tried the ovu watch? i heard it was a good thing,if i dont get pregnant this cycle im going to get one .

[babyalive]

Jackson, after 5 IUI's and worrying each time if I was reading the OPK's correctly, I STRONGLY recommend the clear blue digital smiley face ones.  They're spendier than the other, BUT significantly cheaper than another IUI if this one misses the o window.  I found them at Target, I can't recall the price but I do remember they were cheaper there then anywhere else.  

Good luck!!

Magda, yes the hormones make you gain weight.  For me, I've gained 10 lbs in 6 months, on my small frame, that is a lot.   Both the hormones and the stress of this journey.  I don't exercise as much because I'm always afraid it'll  have an adverse affect on the 2ww if I am too active.  I walk, but  not nearly as much or as strenuosly as before.  It's just one of the  many perks of ttc, gaining weight.  I guess it prepares us for pregnancy huh?

Jen, I can't believe the judge won't let you out of jury duty for health reasons.  I think you may need to have your dr. write something to the judge explaining your procedures are time sensative and can't be rescheduled or postponed.  I hope you're able to get out of blasted jury duty!

[magda_s]

Lisa, I can't begin to tell you how much better you've made me feel.  I know this may sound stupid but I've been SO unbelievably depressed about the weight gain.  It was even worse because I blamed myself but couldn't see what I was doing differently to gain so much weight!  Nor could I understand why it wasn't coming off when, okay... I'm not on a strict diet but I am trying real hard to be very careful and very sensible with food.
Seriously, thank you!

[fifi blue]

Ladies, just got back from transfer.  The embryo only divided into 3 cells which isn't great.  They were looking for 6-8 cells.  The fragmentation and symmetry were good.  I'm not very hopefully but it's in God's hands now.  Madga/Helen, the valium was excellent.  

The worse part was they made me drink tons of water and I had to hold it in for so long.  Never was so happy to see a toilet in my life.

Helen, how are you feeling?

[Jackson_Angel]

Babyalive ~ the men in our kives go through their time f the month during every full moon ~ haven't noticed before..??..~ you can plan/see it coming if you check your calendar ~ they can be pretty dodding at times, but it's just because they want your exclusive attention instead of giving you theirs ~ will await Daughter's arrival home then out to Target for the smiley's ~ to be sure NOT to miss O ~

Girls you should try the on-line South Beach Diet ~ it's worked wonders for us ~ DH lost 15lbs and I lost 6.5 lbs in 4wks ~ put on 20 over past 8months due to all the death through my family and being on depressants, etc and pain killers from my accident two years ago ~ amazing what the meds do to you when the Dr's try to "help" ~ best to read all side effects, but too late after the fact ~ anyway ~ helped reduce DH's BP, and helped with the BD alot ~ :-)~~

Have been holding off going to gym to work off frustration for a while ~ might go tomorrow after BW/US ~ hoping all comes back with HUGE FOLLIES!~

Hoping all is well with all ~ keep twirling for all of us ~ hopefully it will work wonders world-wide!!

[Jackson_Angel]

~got test ~ no face ~ is it accurate when on injectables?

[babyalive]

Jackson, it's accurate when on injectables.  You're just not surging yet.  You shouldn't start checking until about cd 10.  What cd are you on?

Magda, I'm glad you're feeling better!  You're right the clown doesn't deserve me.  Nonetheless, it's feels sh it ee to be tossed like day old bread for a fresher loaf when you're the one who's been sustaining the consumer.  I'll have clarity in a week or so.  Spring break is coming which means an entire weak to wallow in my sorrow, then hopefully, I'll have processed all this and moved on.  

Fiona, There is still a chance to get your bfp, so I'm hoping and praying this cycle works for you.

jbrooks,  I've heard of the ov watch, but haven't tried it yet.

Dee,  I sent a reply to your last post, but for some reason I"m not seeing it...hmmm...strange.  Well, I  just said thanks for the laugh and the smile.  I conjured up this image of the ole bass-terd in a clown outfit and just busted out laughing.  Can always count on you to make me smile.  Thanks!


  

[Jackson_Angel]

Hey ~ I'm on cd 7  BUT ~ I got to boxes to start testing daily and will go back out if I run out to be SURE ~ since I cannpot afford to get another IUI ~ next step is donor eggs ~ :-( ~ need to be ABSOLUTELY SURE ~ we are doing EVERYTHING possible ~ and ~ guess it's a full moon tonight ~ DH being a real DH (original though of what it meant)~:-)))!!***

[babyalive]

One thing you can do that is a bit cheaper than going through a lot of the digitals.  You can buy the cheaper OPK's and use them daily.  Then when you have a surge that looks pretty close, than use your digital to dbl check.  I've done that before also.  

[Jen7900]

Saw RE this morning. I showed up at 8am demanding a u/s before having to go back to court and my demand was met with "of course blondie" and a big wink and smile...just gotta love that man! Good news...I have 8 more follies this month (i swear I am a follie factory on 75 Follistim) all at 14(cm?). I have another u/s on Friday afternoon and should be ready for IUI on Sat and Sun. Very exciting!

AND, i got excused from jury duty today! Turns out the judge is my in-laws neighbor and the plaintiff's attorney has worked against and with my husband (also an attorney) on a number of cases, so there were too many potential conflicts. Whew! That was a close one!

Magda - I have gained weight as well. I think 10lbs since i started trying. So annoying. I have tried consistent exercise and diet also but nothing seems to work. RE said I need to stop exercising so much during this process so i've done nothing for about 10 days now. Also, I read an article in Conceive Magazine about curvier/meatier women having smarter babies! If that is the case, my kid(s) is/are gonna be finding cures for cancer and solving all of the world peace problems! As for psychology, I'm not sure I would have done it again if I had to choose now. I probably would have just gone to medical school to become a neurosurgeon, which is what I wanted to be to begin with. Now i am a neuropsychologist, which is a nice blend of medicine and psychology. Let me know if you ever want to talk about it! BTW - are you originally American and live overseas? I'm so confused!!

Jackson - I use the ClearBlue digital with the happy face :) I went months without getting the smiley face but finally started getting them when i tested at different times of the day. I used to only test in the morning and never got the + but i tested once in the evening and it :). Now i only test in the evening and that seems to do the trick! Also, be careful with them if you are getting the HCG trigger before IUI. It can give you a false positive.

HeathJo - any word on Baby C yet? When do you see the perinatologist?

Keep twirling...

[ms320]

Fiona:  I am glad that you made it to transfer.  I will be praying that the little embie burrows in and starts to grow.

Lisa:  Say the word, and I will open a can of wupp *** on Bozo.  My Brooklyn upbringing makes me believe that I can easily kneecap him. Any man who mistreats a woman is a loser.  Any man who mistreats a woman as sweet as you has serious issues.  Stay strong, focus on the real prize, and know that your cyber sisters have your back.

Heather: C'mon -- Jabba the Hut.  You've got to be kidding me.  You are so petite and cute that it's almost sickening.  Anyway, if you really want to see a picture of a Jabba look alike, just look at Ted Kennedy.  Every time I see him on TV I actually scream out "Jabba" at the top of my lungs.  Sophomoric humor, but it makes dh laugh.

Helen:  How are you feeling.  Hopefully, the nausea has resolved.

[HeathJo]

Mary--OK, I don't look like Ted Kennedy! (HAHAHAHA) But, I have a VERY round and full face naturally, and even when I weigh my normal 110 lbs I have cheeks and a double chin. Now my face just blobs into my neck with no discernable chin, just a flap of fat!!!

Magda/Jen/Jackson Angel/Lisa: I am glad I am not the only one who gained weight TTC, as I don't feel so gross. I mean, I was dealing with a 25-lb weight gain before TTC, so now it is like a 35-40lb gain!!!!! But, at least I know the additional TTTC weight won't be hard to lose.

Jen--8 follies is awesome! And, I am so glad you got out of jury duty!!!! When do you have your next u/s?

Fiona--Burrow, little bean, burrow!!!!!!!

I can't see the perinatologist for another 2 weeks, but I will be seeing both my OB and RE next week. Meantime, just trying not to stress.

Helen--Where are you, I am worried?

[HeathJo]

I am starting a new thread. Easter Egg Theme

[babyalive]

Jen OMG 8 all at the same size is excellent!!!  The problem with my cycle this time around was that only 1 lead follie pushed beyond the rest, thereby not allowing the rest to catch up.  So, 8 is great, but 8 all at the same size is 8 times as great!!  Woohoo!

Mary, Yes, break out the can of wuup a s s on my bozo the clown.  I'm sure you could kick his arse.  He's a little girly man anyhow.    Love the Ted Kennedy reference. Now I'll hear and see you running 'round the house yelling "Jabba" when I see Ted Kennedy, and I'll see Dee running around screaming "Tyra" (or what was it Dee screamed when America's Top Model was on?)  Regardless, I 'll picture Dee screaming when I see Tyra, and whenever I think of any of you I'll just start twirling.  Life is good.  (-:

Fiona, I ditto Heather, "burrow little bean burrow", and twirl fiona, twirl (in a resting position of course)

Heather, I'm sure you are curvy and vulumptous, not "jabbaish".  

All my cyber sisters you are giving me such strength!!  I love you gals!!!

[ALT76]

thanks ladies - I'm even more hopeful now!

[Jackson_Angel]

Hi girls ~ let me know what you think ~ Endometrium 17 ~ Left Follies 19 & 9 ~ Right Follies 11 and 17 ~ good..??..~HOPEFULLY GREAT!!....~:-))))~~

~>reposting here in case not all have gotten to the new string ~ nervous ~ hoping it is REALLY good ~ time running out fast....GOD PLEASE!!!!