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Alpha Gamma Prego &Prayer Buddy Detour
DETOUR!!!!!! Had to start a new thread, the old one was slowing way down!
Mary--Sorry to hear about AF showing her unwelcome self so early. How maddening!! At least you think you know why: the trick is to get your doctor to agree and think it is his/her idea! If you got pg last year, I think you will have a BFP once you get this med dosage issue resolved. BTW, I have never heard of that before--what is it?
Lisa--I got AF on cd33 last cycle, so I know how it is when you are late but feel the impending doom of the hag! However, it ain't over until the fat lady sings, and I haven't sung yet! Just in case, are you all set for next month?
Maria--Good to hear from you!!!!
Empty--what's new down under? (Literally!--Sorry, that was tacky, but I couldn't help being "punny")
Helen--We are not only on the same cycle, but also the same page about going for IVF sooner rather than later if necessary. Still, I am going to give IUI another try with the new meds. PLus, I found out that our first IUI we messed up--my dh abstained for 4 whole days before b/c we thought we would have it done on a Friday but my follies were two small and it was postponed for 2 more days. He had already abstained for 2 days, and we misunderstood and thought he had to keep doing so. Thus, I hope we get better results this time.
Lexima: I start follistim injectables tomorrow: isn't that how you have gotten your 5 follies this cycle? How long have you been taking them? Any bad side effects? Have I gotten you confused with someone else? If so, I am so sorry :-(
I have said 3 prayers for all of us today alone :-)
Mary--Sorry to hear about AF showing her unwelcome self so early. How maddening!! At least you think you know why: the trick is to get your doctor to agree and think it is his/her idea! If you got pg last year, I think you will have a BFP once you get this med dosage issue resolved. BTW, I have never heard of that before--what is it?
Lisa--I got AF on cd33 last cycle, so I know how it is when you are late but feel the impending doom of the hag! However, it ain't over until the fat lady sings, and I haven't sung yet! Just in case, are you all set for next month?
Maria--Good to hear from you!!!!
Empty--what's new down under? (Literally!--Sorry, that was tacky, but I couldn't help being "punny")
Helen--We are not only on the same cycle, but also the same page about going for IVF sooner rather than later if necessary. Still, I am going to give IUI another try with the new meds. PLus, I found out that our first IUI we messed up--my dh abstained for 4 whole days before b/c we thought we would have it done on a Friday but my follies were two small and it was postponed for 2 more days. He had already abstained for 2 days, and we misunderstood and thought he had to keep doing so. Thus, I hope we get better results this time.
Lexima: I start follistim injectables tomorrow: isn't that how you have gotten your 5 follies this cycle? How long have you been taking them? Any bad side effects? Have I gotten you confused with someone else? If so, I am so sorry :-(
I have said 3 prayers for all of us today alone :-)
Fifi,
Yes, after reading the diet portion, I realized my entire diet consists of everything on the "don't eat" list. Also, they list Flax Seed oil and I know it is great for you FULL of Omega 3's. But, some drs. recommend not taking it while pregnant or ttc because it can cause some sort of blood clotting issue that effects the embie. Although this is controversial and my dr. thinks its fine to take it. I used to have smoothies every day with flax seed until ttc, then I stopped because of the risks I'd been hearing of m/c. The only other choice is fish oil but then there's the mercury issue. So, I'm not sure which I'll start taking.
I have a great recipe for a ministrone soup that uses all of those great winter root vegetables they mentioned in the book. If you'd like the recipe,let me know I'll PM it to you.
Mary: I was going to do the exact same thing. Also buy the answer brand and when I get the "if-ee" surge, then break out the digital. Maybe I'll p/u those answers brand sticks today.
Helen - you're right with the trigger that sort of narrows done o for you doesn't it. Thanks for the info. on b/c and IVF. I kept reading about it and wasn't sure why it was necessary. Makes sense now though. The digital OPK's are sticks just like the others, but I sometimes have such a hard time deciphering if the lines are equal in shade or not. So, I thought spending more on digitials, is cheaper than having 2 IUI in a given cycle. I'm doing ALL that I can, every little piece helps...I hope.
I think you have the right attitude Helen. That's how I try to think each month. Just pretend you'll still be ttc the following month, then if you get a BFN - well your mentally prepared, and if you get a BFP - well YIP, YIP, YIPEE! I'm really praying and keeping fingers and toes crossed for you!
This post is getting bogged for my computer to load, so I'm going to take over Heathjo's job this week and redirect. I hope that is fine with all of you?
Yes, after reading the diet portion, I realized my entire diet consists of everything on the "don't eat" list. Also, they list Flax Seed oil and I know it is great for you FULL of Omega 3's. But, some drs. recommend not taking it while pregnant or ttc because it can cause some sort of blood clotting issue that effects the embie. Although this is controversial and my dr. thinks its fine to take it. I used to have smoothies every day with flax seed until ttc, then I stopped because of the risks I'd been hearing of m/c. The only other choice is fish oil but then there's the mercury issue. So, I'm not sure which I'll start taking.
I have a great recipe for a ministrone soup that uses all of those great winter root vegetables they mentioned in the book. If you'd like the recipe,let me know I'll PM it to you.
Mary: I was going to do the exact same thing. Also buy the answer brand and when I get the "if-ee" surge, then break out the digital. Maybe I'll p/u those answers brand sticks today.
Helen - you're right with the trigger that sort of narrows done o for you doesn't it. Thanks for the info. on b/c and IVF. I kept reading about it and wasn't sure why it was necessary. Makes sense now though. The digital OPK's are sticks just like the others, but I sometimes have such a hard time deciphering if the lines are equal in shade or not. So, I thought spending more on digitials, is cheaper than having 2 IUI in a given cycle. I'm doing ALL that I can, every little piece helps...I hope.
I think you have the right attitude Helen. That's how I try to think each month. Just pretend you'll still be ttc the following month, then if you get a BFN - well your mentally prepared, and if you get a BFP - well YIP, YIP, YIPEE! I'm really praying and keeping fingers and toes crossed for you!
This post is getting bogged for my computer to load, so I'm going to take over Heathjo's job this week and redirect. I hope that is fine with all of you?
Lisa: I also prefer the Digital OPKs, but they can be a bit pricey if you need to use more than one box per month. I sometimes buy the Answer brand sticks that cost about $18 for 20 sticks. If I get a definate negative, I use just those. On days where I get two lines that are nearing identical color, I follow up with the digitals. This way, I can start early in my cycle and not use up all the smiley face sticks. I don't know if it will work for you, but it seems to work well for me.
Just like fifi said, everyone starts on b/c before ivf meds; you need that to suppress some sort of gland. I am hoping to do an IUI this week but I am not very hopeful it will work so I am mentally preparing myself to go all the way.
I never used digital OPK's since I prefer regular sticks. Also, with my POAS addiction I got a bunch of really cheap ones (below $1) so that I do not feel bad testing twice a day. I already started OPK-ing yesterday but will probably not get a + till Wednesday. For you digital may work better although if you are using the trigger you don't need OPKs all that much anyways. I hope the trigger works for you!
I never used digital OPK's since I prefer regular sticks. Also, with my POAS addiction I got a bunch of really cheap ones (below $1) so that I do not feel bad testing twice a day. I already started OPK-ing yesterday but will probably not get a + till Wednesday. For you digital may work better although if you are using the trigger you don't need OPKs all that much anyways. I hope the trigger works for you!
Madga, wow if I change clinics it's only a couple of miles away not another country. I guess I have it really easy in that respect and should be grateful that they're available to me. You're an amazing lady and I appreciate your advice to me and others even when your suffering so much. I'm praying and thinking of you.
Lisa, I only read a little of that book but found it very interesting. I'm going to have to change my diet and I have no clue how to cook any of the food it recommended. I'm Irish and I'm great with meat and potato but after that I'm lost :)
b/c is to suppress you before beginning meds. They want the follicles to grow at the same rate. After taking b/c for a month they check estrogen, lining and lh on day 2 or 3. If everything is within range - e less than 50, lining no more than 3-4 can't remember the lh than you begin meds.
Lisa, I only read a little of that book but found it very interesting. I'm going to have to change my diet and I have no clue how to cook any of the food it recommended. I'm Irish and I'm great with meat and potato but after that I'm lost :)
b/c is to suppress you before beginning meds. They want the follicles to grow at the same rate. After taking b/c for a month they check estrogen, lining and lh on day 2 or 3. If everything is within range - e less than 50, lining no more than 3-4 can't remember the lh than you begin meds.
Mary great about the + OPK. I hope the next 9 days passes quickly for you.
Helen - IVF is not something I know a lot about. Why do they put you on b/c prior to the process? Is that to give your ovaries a break?
Fifi - I bought the same book last weekend, or the one before. I posted it on here, but it was a many posts ago. I LOVE IT!!! I haven't had enough time to go through it with as much detail as I would have liked. Today, I'm intending to do some reading in it.
I purchased my smiley face digitiaI OPK's (clear blue) at Target. I was happliy surprised that they were only $29.00. I had read they were like $58.00. I only purchased one set of 7 sticks, so I can't obsess and POAS several times a day like I did before. Once a day is all I'm going to POAS. I also purchased a digital thermometer that takes your temp via your ear. I'm feeling all geared up and ready to go for IUI #4!
Helen - IVF is not something I know a lot about. Why do they put you on b/c prior to the process? Is that to give your ovaries a break?
Fifi - I bought the same book last weekend, or the one before. I posted it on here, but it was a many posts ago. I LOVE IT!!! I haven't had enough time to go through it with as much detail as I would have liked. Today, I'm intending to do some reading in it.
I purchased my smiley face digitiaI OPK's (clear blue) at Target. I was happliy surprised that they were only $29.00. I had read they were like $58.00. I only purchased one set of 7 sticks, so I can't obsess and POAS several times a day like I did before. Once a day is all I'm going to POAS. I also purchased a digital thermometer that takes your temp via your ear. I'm feeling all geared up and ready to go for IUI #4!
Thank you Helen for the advice. Yes, have to talk to our doctor and figure this out... see what he says and that... just need to survive until I get to see him!!
Good luck with your IVF!
fifi Blue ... good luck to you to with the clinic tomorrow. I'm sorry you're having trouble with them and your DH isn't happy with them but I understand fully not wanting to change. We're talking about changing because we have to drive to the neighbouring country to see our doctor and when I do the transfer I have to stay there away from my Dh for a week and it's all just becoming a bit much so we're thinking of trying someone here in Syria but I have to say... SO not looking forward to changing someone I'm comfortable with!
Good luck with your IVF!
fifi Blue ... good luck to you to with the clinic tomorrow. I'm sorry you're having trouble with them and your DH isn't happy with them but I understand fully not wanting to change. We're talking about changing because we have to drive to the neighbouring country to see our doctor and when I do the transfer I have to stay there away from my Dh for a week and it's all just becoming a bit much so we're thinking of trying someone here in Syria but I have to say... SO not looking forward to changing someone I'm comfortable with!
Hey Girls, hope you're enjoying Super Bowl Sunday - GO Pats. Sorry ms320.
I'm calling my clinic tomorrow to find out what happened with my retrieval. My dr was doing a case study on Friday so I hope to have some answers. My dh really wants to change clinics but I can't cope with making any changes right now. He's also getting on my nerves, bless him he's a great guy but he's bugging the **** out of me lately. I read on a website that there is no such thing as an empty follicle. It can mean any number of things. Diminished ovarian reserve, reaction to hcg, bad eggs etc. None of those answers are very comforting. The fact is that I have a poor response to meds and I never produce many follicles. All are indicative of diminished ovarian reserve even though my FSH is good. I just want some straight answers. With all that said, I'm not ready to give up. I've been doing acupuncture for the last 4 weeks and picked up a book today called "The Infertility Cure" which is all about Traditional Chinese Medicine and acupuncture. I've found it very enlightening already.
I'm calling my clinic tomorrow to find out what happened with my retrieval. My dr was doing a case study on Friday so I hope to have some answers. My dh really wants to change clinics but I can't cope with making any changes right now. He's also getting on my nerves, bless him he's a great guy but he's bugging the **** out of me lately. I read on a website that there is no such thing as an empty follicle. It can mean any number of things. Diminished ovarian reserve, reaction to hcg, bad eggs etc. None of those answers are very comforting. The fact is that I have a poor response to meds and I never produce many follicles. All are indicative of diminished ovarian reserve even though my FSH is good. I just want some straight answers. With all that said, I'm not ready to give up. I've been doing acupuncture for the last 4 weeks and picked up a book today called "The Infertility Cure" which is all about Traditional Chinese Medicine and acupuncture. I've found it very enlightening already.
FET is less invasive since you do not have to go through retrieval. If you have a few good ones I would definitely do FET if I were in your shoes. I will be starting b/c in about 2 weeks myself getting ready for my first ivf and I really hope to have a bunch of frozen embies since I doubt we can afford more than one fresh cycle. You should talk to your doctor about probability of success with FET vs. another fresh cycle. Also, some women on this forum go through the fresh cycle and also add leftover frozen embryos from their previous ivf cycle. That's also a potential option for you.
Again, your next step is up to you but you should explore all potential ways to proceed.
Will be thinking of you on Wednesday!!!!!
Again, your next step is up to you but you should explore all potential ways to proceed.
Will be thinking of you on Wednesday!!!!!
Thank you Helen. I thought I was doing better tonight but ever since my poor DH walked in the door I can't seem to stop crying. God... this waiting for Wednesday is just SO hard and you know... it's scary but this is the first time I feel like I'm chocking on this... I WANT this so badly and I knew it might take some work but I never thought it might not happen. I know it's silly to be so negative after just 2 tries but I'm so scared that maybe it just doesn't happen!
I'm definitely not giving up. Oooofff... can't imagine doing that. At least, can't imagine it yet. But I don't know yet what will happen. Makes it that much harder because I can't even start thinking about the next bit. However, I know we have some frozen embies from the last retrieval so I have to find out what type they were (Type I or what) and whether it's worth trying. I haven't tried frozen ones before so have no idea what the protocol is nor how long it takes. If it's not much shorter than starting from scratch then I think it's not worth trying... may as well start from scratch and have a bunch of Type Is since I seem to produce them okay. I say this because I htink I remember the doctor saying we went with all the type Is and only froze the rest that were type II.
I also don't know how soon I can start again. I mean, if we go with the frozen embies I wonder if we can't go ahead and do the transfer in March. I mean, I'm still waiting for "AF" and then the next one would be around early March so I guess, mid march we could do the transfer. I doubt it could be in Feb!!
If we're not going with frozen then I have to see if I can start on the pill right away as soon as AF shows up this time or if my doc will tell me he wants me to take a month off (I didn't after the 1st try and I responded just fine but I don't know if he'll say that 3 times ina row is pushing things. I also don't know how the fact that I actually was pregnant this time changes things (1st try just didn't happen)
Anyone have any thoughts on any of this?
I'm definitely not giving up. Oooofff... can't imagine doing that. At least, can't imagine it yet. But I don't know yet what will happen. Makes it that much harder because I can't even start thinking about the next bit. However, I know we have some frozen embies from the last retrieval so I have to find out what type they were (Type I or what) and whether it's worth trying. I haven't tried frozen ones before so have no idea what the protocol is nor how long it takes. If it's not much shorter than starting from scratch then I think it's not worth trying... may as well start from scratch and have a bunch of Type Is since I seem to produce them okay. I say this because I htink I remember the doctor saying we went with all the type Is and only froze the rest that were type II.
I also don't know how soon I can start again. I mean, if we go with the frozen embies I wonder if we can't go ahead and do the transfer in March. I mean, I'm still waiting for "AF" and then the next one would be around early March so I guess, mid march we could do the transfer. I doubt it could be in Feb!!
If we're not going with frozen then I have to see if I can start on the pill right away as soon as AF shows up this time or if my doc will tell me he wants me to take a month off (I didn't after the 1st try and I responded just fine but I don't know if he'll say that 3 times ina row is pushing things. I also don't know how the fact that I actually was pregnant this time changes things (1st try just didn't happen)
Anyone have any thoughts on any of this?
Mary,
that's great! Finally some good news. I am glad you don't have to wait any more. I hope it's all smooth sailing from here for you.
Magda,
my heat breaks when I read your posts. I am so sorry you have to go through this again but I am glad to know that despite all of the heartbreak you are not giving up. Are you doing another fresh cycle or FET? I know that a BFP will cure all ills. I know there is still hope and I will keep my fingers crossed for you on Wednesday.
Wishing you much strength!
that's great! Finally some good news. I am glad you don't have to wait any more. I hope it's all smooth sailing from here for you.
Magda,
my heat breaks when I read your posts. I am so sorry you have to go through this again but I am glad to know that despite all of the heartbreak you are not giving up. Are you doing another fresh cycle or FET? I know that a BFP will cure all ills. I know there is still hope and I will keep my fingers crossed for you on Wednesday.
Wishing you much strength!
Magda: I am so sorry. I know it feels like the cruelest joke in the world. Getting a BFN is hard enough to deal with, but this is like somebody gave you what you really wanted, and then took it away. I feel awful. Everyone has alredy said it before, but I will continue to keep you in my prayers.
HeathJo: Your numbers sound great. While the meds you needed to take made you feel horrible, I bet you'll agree that it was all worthwhile when you get your BFP.
fifi blue: Did they ever give you any follow-up after the case study. At the very least, you deserve some type of explanation.
I was off the board yesterday, and cannot believe how badly I missed my sisters. My brothers and I threw a 75th birthday party for my mom, so we had a lot of fun. I snuck off in the middle of the party to do an OPK and surprisingly it was +. I can't believe it. I haven't had a + OPK on cd 11 in about 6 months. It looks like my cycle is returning to normal. Anyway, I will call my IVF nurse tomorrow and have her set me up to begin my protocol in 9 days. I am excited, but nervous.
What a weekend: mom's 75th birthday, + OPK and The Giants in the SuperBowl. Doesn't get much better than this for me : ) (My apologies to any Green Bay or Dallas fans)
HeathJo: Your numbers sound great. While the meds you needed to take made you feel horrible, I bet you'll agree that it was all worthwhile when you get your BFP.
fifi blue: Did they ever give you any follow-up after the case study. At the very least, you deserve some type of explanation.
I was off the board yesterday, and cannot believe how badly I missed my sisters. My brothers and I threw a 75th birthday party for my mom, so we had a lot of fun. I snuck off in the middle of the party to do an OPK and surprisingly it was +. I can't believe it. I haven't had a + OPK on cd 11 in about 6 months. It looks like my cycle is returning to normal. Anyway, I will call my IVF nurse tomorrow and have her set me up to begin my protocol in 9 days. I am excited, but nervous.
What a weekend: mom's 75th birthday, + OPK and The Giants in the SuperBowl. Doesn't get much better than this for me : ) (My apologies to any Green Bay or Dallas fans)
Lisa, empty, thank you. Thanks everyone.
It's the next morning here and like last time this feels so strange and surreal. It's a beautiful, bright, sunny day morning and I feel like you do when someone's just died and you know the world is carrying on but you feel like you're just not a part of it. It's funny... I feel like there's this ball of rage churning inside me but I'm just too miserable for it to be able to touch me.
I can't believe I'm actually about to go to work. It almost feels a silly thing to do.
I just desperately need to get the next few days over with. I need wednesday to roll around so I can go do the test and be done with this. Much as I consciously do not want to have any hope, it's there... so help me, it is. If I can just get this done with then I can figure out how to go see my doctor. Not easy as my DH's middle daughter (she's 23) is coming to visit for the first time since we were married and it's all very delicate so we don't want to tell her what's happened. No point in making her uncomfortable when she's making an effort. But I want to go see him so I can figure out the next step. This might sound very selfish when obviously having a child is the priority but I hate how much I've missed out on for nothing... I had an opportunity to go to Hong Kong and visit friends but couldn't do it, I could have gone to visit my sister with my DH when he went a few days ago but I couldn't fly because it was risky... pfffff... now I have a business trip to Delhi coming up and my sister wants to come with me but I might not make that depending on what the next step is and the timing. And my sister wants to come and visit but there's not a lot of point if I'm in stuck in bed in Lebanon during the week she can make it out here!
Like I said, it sounds shallow and I give it all up willingly for a baby but it makes me angry when it's for nothing. I know, I know. It's hardly a trade off or a deal... I'll give up x, y and z, if I can have 1 girl and 1 boy please!!!!!!!
I keep trying to tell myself that God knows what he's doing and maybe if this hasn't worked out it's because when it does work out it will be better for whatever reason... and I try to look at the positive side and tell myself that maybe next time I'll get my twins!
Anyway, I'd best go get dressed.
Good luck ladies, to one and all.
It's the next morning here and like last time this feels so strange and surreal. It's a beautiful, bright, sunny day morning and I feel like you do when someone's just died and you know the world is carrying on but you feel like you're just not a part of it. It's funny... I feel like there's this ball of rage churning inside me but I'm just too miserable for it to be able to touch me.
I can't believe I'm actually about to go to work. It almost feels a silly thing to do.
I just desperately need to get the next few days over with. I need wednesday to roll around so I can go do the test and be done with this. Much as I consciously do not want to have any hope, it's there... so help me, it is. If I can just get this done with then I can figure out how to go see my doctor. Not easy as my DH's middle daughter (she's 23) is coming to visit for the first time since we were married and it's all very delicate so we don't want to tell her what's happened. No point in making her uncomfortable when she's making an effort. But I want to go see him so I can figure out the next step. This might sound very selfish when obviously having a child is the priority but I hate how much I've missed out on for nothing... I had an opportunity to go to Hong Kong and visit friends but couldn't do it, I could have gone to visit my sister with my DH when he went a few days ago but I couldn't fly because it was risky... pfffff... now I have a business trip to Delhi coming up and my sister wants to come with me but I might not make that depending on what the next step is and the timing. And my sister wants to come and visit but there's not a lot of point if I'm in stuck in bed in Lebanon during the week she can make it out here!
Like I said, it sounds shallow and I give it all up willingly for a baby but it makes me angry when it's for nothing. I know, I know. It's hardly a trade off or a deal... I'll give up x, y and z, if I can have 1 girl and 1 boy please!!!!!!!
I keep trying to tell myself that God knows what he's doing and maybe if this hasn't worked out it's because when it does work out it will be better for whatever reason... and I try to look at the positive side and tell myself that maybe next time I'll get my twins!
Anyway, I'd best go get dressed.
Good luck ladies, to one and all.
Lisa, empty, thank you. Thanks everyone.
It's the next morning here and like last time this feels so strange and surreal. It's a beautiful, bright, sunny day morning and I feel like you do when someone's just died and you know the world is carrying on but you feel like you're just not a part of it. It's funny... I feel like there's this ball of rage churning inside me but I'm just too miserable for it to be able to touch me.
I can't believe I'm actually about to go to work. It almost feels a silly thing to do.
I just desperately need to get the next few days over with. I need wednesday to roll around so I can go do the test and be done with this. Much as I consciously do not want to have any hope, it's there... so help me, it is. If I can just get this done with then I can figure out how to go see my doctor. Not easy as my DH's middle daughter (she's 23) is coming to visit for the first time since we were married and it's all very delicate so we don't want to tell her what's happened. No point in making her uncomfortable when she's making an effort. But I want to go see him so I can figure out the next step. This might sound very selfish when obviously having a child is the priority but I hate how much I've missed out on for nothing... I had an opportunity to go to Hong Kong and visit friends but couldn't do it, I could have gone to visit my sister with my DH when he went a few days ago but I couldn't fly because it was risky... pfffff... now I have a business trip to Delhi coming up and my sister wants to come with me but I might not make that depending on what the next step is and the timing. And my sister wants to come and visit but there's not a lot of point if I'm in stuck in bed in Lebanon during the week she can make it out here!
Like I said, it sounds shallow and I give it all up willingly for a baby but it makes me angry when it's for nothing. I know, I know. It's hardly a trade off or a deal... I'll give up x, y and z, if I can have 1 girl and 1 boy please!!!!!!!
I keep trying to tell myself that God knows what he's doing and maybe if this hasn't worked out it's because when it does work out it will be better for whatever reason... and I try to look at the positive side and tell myself that maybe next time I'll get my twins!
Anyway, I'd best go get dressed.
Good luck ladies, to one and all.
It's the next morning here and like last time this feels so strange and surreal. It's a beautiful, bright, sunny day morning and I feel like you do when someone's just died and you know the world is carrying on but you feel like you're just not a part of it. It's funny... I feel like there's this ball of rage churning inside me but I'm just too miserable for it to be able to touch me.
I can't believe I'm actually about to go to work. It almost feels a silly thing to do.
I just desperately need to get the next few days over with. I need wednesday to roll around so I can go do the test and be done with this. Much as I consciously do not want to have any hope, it's there... so help me, it is. If I can just get this done with then I can figure out how to go see my doctor. Not easy as my DH's middle daughter (she's 23) is coming to visit for the first time since we were married and it's all very delicate so we don't want to tell her what's happened. No point in making her uncomfortable when she's making an effort. But I want to go see him so I can figure out the next step. This might sound very selfish when obviously having a child is the priority but I hate how much I've missed out on for nothing... I had an opportunity to go to Hong Kong and visit friends but couldn't do it, I could have gone to visit my sister with my DH when he went a few days ago but I couldn't fly because it was risky... pfffff... now I have a business trip to Delhi coming up and my sister wants to come with me but I might not make that depending on what the next step is and the timing. And my sister wants to come and visit but there's not a lot of point if I'm in stuck in bed in Lebanon during the week she can make it out here!
Like I said, it sounds shallow and I give it all up willingly for a baby but it makes me angry when it's for nothing. I know, I know. It's hardly a trade off or a deal... I'll give up x, y and z, if I can have 1 girl and 1 boy please!!!!!!!
I keep trying to tell myself that God knows what he's doing and maybe if this hasn't worked out it's because when it does work out it will be better for whatever reason... and I try to look at the positive side and tell myself that maybe next time I'll get my twins!
Anyway, I'd best go get dressed.
Good luck ladies, to one and all.
Dear Magda,
I am so sorry for your terrible news. I send many hugs your way and please vent all you want. I cannot beleive this is happening to you.
HeathJo - thanks for looking for me. I have just been trying to just work out my feelings. If i dont get a BFP this month i will IUI. I say this month because i am ovulating in the good side and have been BDing regularly and temping - so giving it all i got really. Just entered my TWW and am not at 5dpo.
Good to hear all is going well for you :)
I am so sorry for your terrible news. I send many hugs your way and please vent all you want. I cannot beleive this is happening to you.
HeathJo - thanks for looking for me. I have just been trying to just work out my feelings. If i dont get a BFP this month i will IUI. I say this month because i am ovulating in the good side and have been BDing regularly and temping - so giving it all i got really. Just entered my TWW and am not at 5dpo.
Good to hear all is going well for you :)
Thanks for your support, guys. I am hoping that the follies on the:
right:currently 13,14,14 will be at 17,18,18 by Monday morning, so that when I trigger Monday night and they relase 36 hours later they will be around 21,22,22 at LEAST for the Wednesday IUI.
left:currently 13,14.5,15 will be at 17,18.5,19 by Monday Morning and 21,22.5,23 for the Wednesday IUI.
(using the formula that follies grow around 2mm a day)
So hopefully after my Monday appt I can check this post back and see if I made it, because I should be triggering that night, and hope my estimates are accurate so I can have an idea of the final follie size when they drop. (I don't get u/s Wed before IUI, I don't think).
I am also concernred about Fiona (fifi), Maria (vingulf), Annabritta and empty. I will post a thread for them to come here!
right:currently 13,14,14 will be at 17,18,18 by Monday morning, so that when I trigger Monday night and they relase 36 hours later they will be around 21,22,22 at LEAST for the Wednesday IUI.
left:currently 13,14.5,15 will be at 17,18.5,19 by Monday Morning and 21,22.5,23 for the Wednesday IUI.
(using the formula that follies grow around 2mm a day)
So hopefully after my Monday appt I can check this post back and see if I made it, because I should be triggering that night, and hope my estimates are accurate so I can have an idea of the final follie size when they drop. (I don't get u/s Wed before IUI, I don't think).
I am also concernred about Fiona (fifi), Maria (vingulf), Annabritta and empty. I will post a thread for them to come here!
How are you doing? Did your clinic figure out what went wrong? How are they suggesting to proceed? Did they do a case study and go through your records? Sorry for all these questions but after putting you through such hell your clinic should at least give you some personalized attention and a new successful cycle.
Lexima: That sounds great! This should be a very good cycle for you as well. Perhaps we'll have plethora of BFP posts for Valentine's Day! I'm certainly including you in my prayers that OHSS stays far, far away and BFP sticks close by!
Fifi: How are you doing? You've been on my mind lately.
Fifi: How are you doing? You've been on my mind lately.
HeathJo - WAY to GO!!!! those follies sound great!!! My clinic suggested to obstain for 2-3 days, but no more than 4. So we ended up obstaining for 1 day and still his results were very good.
Lisa - I had IUI yesterday RE was very exited as DH had the highest numbers of the day :) In a way I feel that this cycle gives me the most chanses so far. The only thing we didn't do is bd last night, I wasn't feeling too good very crampy and bloated the whole day. Today I'm better, but I still keep thinking whether OHSS will catch up with me. RE said she's seen when people get it a week later after trigger. I'll hope not. Anyways today I'm CD12, 1DPIUI. I'm supposed to start progesterone tomorrow.
Lisa - I had IUI yesterday RE was very exited as DH had the highest numbers of the day :) In a way I feel that this cycle gives me the most chanses so far. The only thing we didn't do is bd last night, I wasn't feeling too good very crampy and bloated the whole day. Today I'm better, but I still keep thinking whether OHSS will catch up with me. RE said she's seen when people get it a week later after trigger. I'll hope not. Anyways today I'm CD12, 1DPIUI. I'm supposed to start progesterone tomorrow.
Madga, I'm so sorry to hear your news. I wish I could say something to help. Please know that I'm praying for you and your DH.
Heathjo, just an FYI from my own experience. You might want to abstain from bd'ing for a day or two before IUI. I remember bd'ing the night of trigger and DH numbers for IUI were low. The next time around we abstained for 3 days and his numbers were very high.
Heathjo, just an FYI from my own experience. You might want to abstain from bd'ing for a day or two before IUI. I remember bd'ing the night of trigger and DH numbers for IUI were low. The next time around we abstained for 3 days and his numbers were very high.
Heathjo: OHHHH!! I am so excited for you!! I knew you would have more than one follie. My goodness you sure do! I can't tell you how happy I am for you. All the bding, the number of follies, trigger and IUI. I have a really good feeling for you this cycle.
Lexima: You had your IUI a few days ago? What cd are you on? How are you feeling?
Helen: I've lost track. You are always sooo supportive of everyone, but I miss hearing about what is going on with you! How are you? Where are you in your cycle?
Magda: Like Heathjo, I would make you some tea, sit down and just be with you, listen if you wanted to talk....wish we were there with you. Lexima is right. All you can do at this point is leave it in God's hands. You've done all you could for this cycle, the rest is up to Him. Hugs, prayers and warm thoughts your way.
Lexima: You had your IUI a few days ago? What cd are you on? How are you feeling?
Helen: I've lost track. You are always sooo supportive of everyone, but I miss hearing about what is going on with you! How are you? Where are you in your cycle?
Magda: Like Heathjo, I would make you some tea, sit down and just be with you, listen if you wanted to talk....wish we were there with you. Lexima is right. All you can do at this point is leave it in God's hands. You've done all you could for this cycle, the rest is up to Him. Hugs, prayers and warm thoughts your way.
Heather don't feel guilty... we all deserve whatever good we get out of all that we're doing and I'm really happy for you. I hope all goes well over the next couple of days.
Me? I don't realy know what to say. I think I'm in denial. I don't seem to be bursting into tears anymore but I feel totally, physically drained and so very numb. I feel like I'm waiting for someone to drop a bomb... oh, no... that's already been done!!
Sorry... it's just so very painful right now... so much for not crying anymore... it's just so painful and so unfair.
My back is a total disaster and I'm guessing this is a very overweight AF coming to visit but still, it could equally be tension. It affects my back in a huge way. I almost wish AF would show because no matter what I tell myself, continuing with the meds and waiting to do another test on Wed... you just can't help but nurture this little spark of hope and every time I think about it I hate myself for being so frigging stupid. Then I think "Sod this... I'm having a glass of wine or ten" but no, can't even do that because what if...
Sorry... negativity never helped anyone, I know.
Thank you ladies, for being there.
Heather, thanks for the hug offer... I consider it given. I'll go get another one from my DH.
Hugs and SSBD to all.
magda
Me? I don't realy know what to say. I think I'm in denial. I don't seem to be bursting into tears anymore but I feel totally, physically drained and so very numb. I feel like I'm waiting for someone to drop a bomb... oh, no... that's already been done!!
Sorry... it's just so very painful right now... so much for not crying anymore... it's just so painful and so unfair.
My back is a total disaster and I'm guessing this is a very overweight AF coming to visit but still, it could equally be tension. It affects my back in a huge way. I almost wish AF would show because no matter what I tell myself, continuing with the meds and waiting to do another test on Wed... you just can't help but nurture this little spark of hope and every time I think about it I hate myself for being so frigging stupid. Then I think "Sod this... I'm having a glass of wine or ten" but no, can't even do that because what if...
Sorry... negativity never helped anyone, I know.
Thank you ladies, for being there.
Heather, thanks for the hug offer... I consider it given. I'll go get another one from my DH.
Hugs and SSBD to all.
magda
Good job on the follies! I know how the meds made you sick but you definitely have more than one this cycle!!! I am so excited for you! I hope all the pain and nausea will pay off with a BFP.
Magda--I am heartbroken for you. I just don't get it, it's so unfair! I wish I could hug you and make you tea, and soothe you somehow. But, I can only say I have prayed and will continue to do so. ((HUGS))
My u/s went pretty well, I think. I'm cd12, and my dominant follies are:
Right ovary: 13, 14, 14 (and 2 others 10,9)
Left ovary: 13, 14.5, 15 (1 other 11)
They want me to continue with the Follistim tonight and tomorrow night, come in for an u/s Monday, and most likely trigger Monday night for an IUI Wednesday. We will BD Tomorrow and Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday to be sure we cover the bases.
I guess I have to wait and see how these follies look Monday, but they want me to trigger only when I have follies at 19mm, and they want to see 3 or 4 at that size at least. I hope I can do it!
I almost feel guilty with this news knowing what Magda is going through. . .
My u/s went pretty well, I think. I'm cd12, and my dominant follies are:
Right ovary: 13, 14, 14 (and 2 others 10,9)
Left ovary: 13, 14.5, 15 (1 other 11)
They want me to continue with the Follistim tonight and tomorrow night, come in for an u/s Monday, and most likely trigger Monday night for an IUI Wednesday. We will BD Tomorrow and Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday to be sure we cover the bases.
I guess I have to wait and see how these follies look Monday, but they want me to trigger only when I have follies at 19mm, and they want to see 3 or 4 at that size at least. I hope I can do it!
I almost feel guilty with this news knowing what Magda is going through. . .
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