.. My brother calls up early morning today to give the news that my SIL delivered . This is their third child. I was just taking to him and he asks if I am am pregnant. I said "no", I am not lucky like you to have three kids in six years. I have been married for six years too. My brothers and my wedding was three months apart.
Nettabuttr: Wow! You have a lot more patience that I do. If you're three days late, TEST! LOL!
Maria: I'm sorry you're feeling a bit down today. I can totally relate. My best friend just had her second baby on Sunday, and she got pregnant the first time after I had already had my first miscarriage
. So she now has two children, while I'm still trying. But I'm not giving up! And neither should you...just stay positive, and know that your time will come! Hopefully in about two weeks time ;-) Best of luck tomorrow!!! Sending you tons of SSBD!!!
I too can relate. My best friend who is 40 is pregnant for the first time and had no trouble conceiving. It's hard for me to be around her.....it's hard for me to be happy for her when I can only keep thinking (with much guilt), how much I too want to be pregnant. I wish there is something we could do to keep from obsessing about this.....people tell me that obsessing and stressing only releases "bad chemicals" making it more difficult to conceive. Naturally I feel like knocking those people's heads
Thank you so much. I don't know what I would have done if I didn't find this forum. You are all so nice. We should all have babies and we will look back and chat about how we struggled to conceive.
Atleast I feel better that I am not the only one feeling that way. Thanks a ton.
That is too funny, nattydivine! That certainly would help relieve some stress...LOL! I know what you mean, though. I too feel guilty about it, but I can't help being jealous when everyone around me are having babies with no problems or complications. Hopefully, it will be our turn soon!!!
This is why I wanted to wait to test...to prolong the cycle of depression that comes along with a BFN.. AF came yesterday evening.. and I totaly feel lost I had such high hopes this time(as with everytime).....you ladies have been a big help to me but the need for professional help is relavent..has anyone else felt the need to seek therapy? I cannot be the only one that feels utterly lost each and everytime I get a BFN..lets face
it DHs try to help us but they just cannot feel the same kinda of pain we do..oh well off to a session I go this afternoon..I hope some of you get your BFP really soon.
21 of them!
On the left (I have no tube)..16,15,15,14,14,13,12,12,10,10
On the right (wer have a good tube)...17,17,17,14,13,11,11,10,10,10,10
My Re was going to cancel us this time because of the fear of multiples but I begged him not to. So IUI is set for this Friday...this cycle we were going to do back to back but he said no way! Wish us luck and I will start my TWW after Friday. Taking Ovidril tonite!
I think everyone knows exactly how your feeling. To circumvent that horrible desolate feeling that may come for me next week if AF comes, I decided to maybe put off TTC for a couple of months and use that time to lose the 40 pounds I've put on in the last couple of years. Kept using TTC as a reason to "not diet". I think seeking out professional help is a great idea. It can only help. Maybe the best thing for any of us is to find whatever will divert us from compulsively obsessing about getting pregnant. Easier said than done. Perhaps it is why some of those that are succesful in maintaining a healthy and balanced thought process are able to conceive.
I had retrieval yesterday. It went well , they got 18. Still don't know how many fertilized. Will get to know today. My stomach feels hard and I have pain and cramps. I hope everything is fine. I don't want them to postpone my transfer.
Well, I had my CD11 sonogram yesterday, and it looks like the cyst is going away by itself. It was 40mm on CD3 and now it's down to 15mm. So that's a relief! I also have a follicle on my right at 17mm, so I'll trigger tonight and probably do an IUI on Saturday.
Nettabuttr: I'm so sorry about stupid AF! I know, it can get pretty depressing to get a BFN month after month...but please don't give up! Some day, we will all have our little bundles of joy!
Maria: That's great news! 18 eggs is a very good number! Got my fingers crossed for lots of healthy, fertilized eggs!!!
bfromthed: Wow! That is a lot of eggs!!! Looks like you'll probably have AT LEAST three mature follicles on your good side by the time you ovulate, if not more! Good luck with your IUIs!!!
Janice: Yay! I'm so glad you finally get to start your IVF cycle! Best of luck with all the meds! I hope you get lots of good follicles!!!
I dont know if this good or bad news..They retrieved 18 eggs and doctor said they would do half ICSI and half conventional way. I just got a call from the nurse saying 7 fertilized conventional way and only 2 fertilized ICSI. I don't understand why would doctor say half and half. I feel the conventional way was much better. They froze the two ICSI ones and they have 7 outside. should see how they are going to do by tomorrow.
Hmm! Yeah, that's weird. You would think it would be the other way around and that the ICSI ones would fertilize better. But maybe they did ICSI on the less mature eggs, thinking that that would increase their fertilization rate compared to just natural. Maybe non of the ICSI ones would have fertilized naturally. Just a thought... But either way, 9 fertilized eggs is still very good. I think the average fertilization rate is about 50-60%, so you're right there! I'm so excited for you! Do you know if they will be doing a three-day or five-day transfer yet...or does that depend on how well they progress?
That's what I thought too. I thought ICSI ones would do better. In my last cycle I got 17 eggs and 12 fertilized normal way. This time my RE wanted to do the change because dh's morphology didn't look good. Morphology didn't look good last time too. I am so worried now I hope I get good ones for transfer. They said they will decide on the transfer date depending in on how they are dividing. I am very nervous and getting scared. I want this to work. 9 fertilized, I hope the ones outside will divide fine.
Ok went to first IUI for this cycle going back tomorrow for the second. Things seem to go well today. DH's count was 142 million!!! 98% motility and 62% morph...had some cramping on the left right after the procedure (no tibe there) so I wondered did it all go the wrong way then about 2 hours ago started cramping lightly on the right (so hopefully they are working their magic). Good luck glad to see thatthe list is back up and rolling Heatrher5 I will post after 2nd IUI tomorrow...so we are officially on a 13day wait my re's office says wait two wks and two days!!
Thank you and good luck to you too! We have to put our trust and faith in our RE''s but I would surely ask questions! Please be sure to keep us posted...I am going back tomorrow fot the second of my first back to back IUI treatments...so I guess with the one today I am officially on the 2WW
I do have a ? though...I normally don't use the Ovidril (trigger) until CD13 or so and they had me do it on CD 10 and the IUI's on CD 11 and 12 is that okay or will the Ovidril "make me" ovulate?
Today is day 24 of my cycle. Had some bleeding (faint and has now stopped) this morning as well as some slight cramping.....feels like I am getting my AF yet I am pretty regular usually getting AF at 28-29 days. I hope it's implantation bleeding but fear that the Menopur and HCG may cause my AF to come early. Is it too soon to take a HPT?
Ok back from second IUI (back to back) things went smoothly. DH's count was 36 million, 92% motility, and 36% morph. RE said thats good considering the IUI yesterday, intercourse last night, and then the second IUI today. So we are officially in the 2WW! Going to have my progestrone checked on the 23rd of this month.
Baby dust to everyone we need some success stories!
Thanks everyone for the positive thoughts. I did not have IVF....had IUI. I gave in and did an HPT.....negative. I can't help feeling like I am about to get AF. Feeling very pissed off! I am trying to have a "back up plan". Stop TTC for a couple of months and lose weight. I hate this!!! I just learned today that my 19 year old neice's best friend, is pregnant. The father is 17! What the hell! Here you have 2 people who are so totally ill prepared to have a child not to mention how totally irresponsible it is for them to mother/ father a child at that age! Come on!
I had my transfer today. Doctor wanted to transfer 2. We insisted for three. I have three beautiful little ones inside me. I am hoping for bfp. Good luck to everyone on tww.
We did clomid and ovidril in 07 and had a BFP on the second cycle. Unfortunately I went into labor a 24 wks and he passed due to prematurity 26 days later :( so we figured wait a year and try again so we went back to what worked the first time and obviously it didn't so here we are...
Maria good luck you dont have to do the 2WW with transfers do you? I would love to try IVF unfortunately that is out of range for us cost wise.
Thank you guys you just dont know how the support of others help! You hate to know someone else is going through this but its great we are here for one another. I am feeling bloated and heavy today!
Hello, I'm back after a weekend away. Went camping and hiking..great time to relax.
I started my Lupron on 10/17, and started my Follistem and Menopur on 10/18. I feel like a pin cushion, 4 injections a day. Well worth it in the end!!
I go tomorrow for my checkup. I'll keep you all posted.
Just a quick concern I had back to back IUI's done this past Thursday CD11 and Friday CD12 and intercourse at night after both...wwhhheewww...and I triggered on CD 10 which is normally early for me but I had the 21 follicles this time including three 17's but today I have twinges on my leftt and right side...I have never paid attention to ovulation cramping in the ovaries but I see a few people get that...I am sure that the sperm that was used for the IUI's are gone now??? We have not had intercourse since Friday due to our work schedules. I guess I am reading into things too much??? I go on the 24Th for a progestrone check though???
Got AF yesterday. My RE wants to put me on Femcon birth control pills for 18 days(Femcon is stronger than most birth control pills). I will then get AF again on cycle day 22. His goal is two shrink 2 existing cysts. He will then start me on a more aggresive (aggressive) course of injectibles. So confused. DH and I decided to wait a couple of months so I could lose some weight (plan to join Jenny Craig today) and take a break from all those crazy making hormones.
All -
I went today for my first round of blood tests and ultrasound after starting my injections.
I have 5 follicles at this point. I guess I thought I would have had more since I'm taking more meds than the first round of IVF. Last time, I had 6 follicles at this point and that was just with Follistem. Not quite sure what to think. I know its not the quanitity, but the quality. Each time I do this I seem to have many many more questions.
Has anyone experienced less eggs with a second round of IVF?
I ahve not done IVF (i wish we could afford it) but I do know that it is quality not quanit would not let that bother me because it only takes on to make you preggers!!! Keep us posted and good luck
My doctors office called me back. They said I should take the same dosage of meds. I'm ok with that. But they also said that my estridol level was low, 18. Do you know what it should be? Not sure what this low level means. I know alot can change between now and my next visit on Friday. I just dont want to miss this cycle.
I left a message for my doctor to call me. I need to talk to him directly.
Any help from you guys would be appreciated.
Thanks for your words of encouragement.. in the same boat cycle day 3 visit showed that I had a pretty good size cyst on right ovary again..so I too am on femcon i go back to re on 10-29 to see if its gone if so re is not changing meds just will start menopur again along with another iui..but I am slowly starting to reap the benefits of therapy..having a much better outlook on things..so hopefully there is truth too your comment..about heathier and more positive thinking being helpful in in ttc.
I'm rootin' for ya honey!! It's YOUR TIME!! I am having problems with fertility and just started clomid, so I can't really relate (yet). BUT..my sis in law just had twins from fertility treatments....they were 7lbs4oz and 6lbs 1oz....AMAZING. What a miracle...PLEASE keep us posted. :)
Thanks for the support I am now 7dpiui and no symptoms just sensative nips so I hope and pray this is our month....Keep me posted on your progress...and be sure the RE checks you because prolonged use of clomind can thin your lining! Good luck!
Thanks for the heads up. I was not aware of that. I HOPE to only take the clomid for 102 months total. :) I am praying for SYMPTOMS FOR YOU!!! :) Please do keep me posted, my prayers are with you.
I hate my body!!! The increased meds are not proving to be effective.
I think the doctor is going to forego this IVF cycle, and may not even try insemination. We may have to wait another 3 weeks before we try again.
At some point, do you all feel so worn out? I do right now. It's hard to stay positive with all this going on.
I am with you I had 21 follicles this cycle 11 good ones and I am 8dpiui and feel nothing. I am trying to hold on to the hope that it takes 10 days to implant and it just has not gotten there yet! I had my progestrone checked today so I will post once the RE's office calls back with the results...bummed...
Sorry I've been MIA for a while. I'm just not too hopeful about this cycle. Since I had the cyst, I wasn't able to do any meds, but did have one natural mature follicle and did an IUI last Saturday. But my temps are not very high this month, and I have no sore BBs (which I always get after O). Plus, we had somewhat of an accident at home with the specimen cup before the IUI, where it fell on the floor and spilled. ARGH! So after wash, we only had 7.2 million for the IUI. Soooo frustrating! Then I got sick with the stomach flu from Monday till Wednesday. So, all in all, a pretty crappy month so far. Oh well...at least my cyst is shrinking.
Janice: I'm so sorry! Right now I can totally relate to feeling worn out. But we just got to keep our heads up and keep trying! So what did the doctor say? Are you just not producing enough follicles? I hope things will turn around for you soon!
OK, I've updated the list below. Since it's been a while, please check and make sure I got all the info right :-)
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bfromthed -- 8 dpiui, gonal-f/menopur, at least 3 mature eggs on good side
Maria -- 6 dpt, IVF cycle, gonal-f/menopur, 3 eggs transferred
Heather -- 6 dpiui, no meds, cyst shrinking(!), 1 natural follicle
Nettabuttr -- CD 10, on femcon to shrink cyst, next appointment 10-29
nattydivine -- CD 6, on b/c to shrink cysts, taking a break from TTC
Janice -- IVF cycle possibly cancelled...so sorry!
Thanks for the update I missed that....I am symptomless! :( I know I am only 8dpiui #1 and 7dpiui #2 but I had sore bbs and all of that has went away they are not even sensative anymore. All I have been having is hot flashes and thats it.. I started taking my temps yesterday morning and it was 97.8 and this morning 97.9 I am not sure what that means I was just curious since I see so many people do it :) I also had my prgestrone drawn today and waiting on the RE's office to call with the results!
When it comes to temperatures, it's hard to say unless you have the whole cycle charted (or at least a few days or so before ovulation), since the before and after O temperatures vary a lot from woman to woman. Personally, I have temps in the low to mid 97s before O, and upper 97s and 98s after O. Good luck on your progesterone numbers! Let us know what they are when you hear back!
Progestrone came back at 55...I have nop idea what that means besides I ovulated??? I have read that some re's chheck estrongen...my re didn't should I request that test. I am 9dpiui and still symptomless...
bfromthed: 55 is a very good number and indicates that more than one egg ovulated (although we already kinda knew that, right? LOL!). As for estrogen, my RE doesn't check that either, but that's usually before O anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.
Thanks well I will continue with the waiting game believe it or not seems that it is going pretty fast...I have been working a little overtime to stay busy.
Here is the latest update. My doctor cancelled everything this cycle, no IVF, or insemination. Somehow, the additional Menopure I was taking was not good for me.
It had a bad effect on my estrogen levels. That is primarily the reason they cancelled this cycle.I did have some follicles, 7, but with the amount of medication I was taking ( 450 units between Follistem and Menopur), I should have been much further along. I feel like I wasted a **** load of cash this cycle for nothing. This is just so frustrating that my body is not doing what it should. My doctor is frustrated too..is trying to find something that works for me. So for now, we are holding off. In November, we'll try again. But who knows when I'll start my next cycle. I never know how these drugs will effect me. Those days of being on a 28 day cycle are long gone. I'm not sure I'll even ovulate this cycle. Does anyone know? I did buy the ovulation sticks just to check. Maybe we'll get lucky..at least my husband will.LOL!
I truly understand your frustartions but know that when they do that it is best for you and the child that one day will be yours!! Good luck and keep us posted in November!
Hello Girls, How are you all doing? Today is day 8 after transfer. Going for beta on 30th.
Janice, don't worry too much. Everything happens for a reason. I can understand your frustration. But one thing I want to say is during my first IVF and also my other iui's before that my doctor just put me on Gonal-f. In this cycle they added menopur along with Gonal-f, but they wouldn't start me on menopur until my E2 level was 200. I started with Gonal-f 150 ui and when the E2 reached 200, I was told to add 75iu of menopur until the trigger shot. I had around 20 follicles during my retrieval. I hope this helps. Good luck for your next cycle. Please feel free to ask me any questions you have.
everyone, thanks for your support. i really need it today.
I did ask my dr about gonal f..he said it is similiar to that of Follistem. He is going to try one more new thing next time in November. For me, the menopur really did not work. I stimulated better last time with only the follistem. Not quite sure what it all means.
It's just soo confusing...i know my doctor is trying to find something that works..it's just so hard to wait, and think of this as a wasted cycle.
I know everything happens for a reason..not sure what this one is.
I will be testing on 11/2 but I am thinking to just wait to see if I skip AF because I a still totally symptomless...I am really losing hope this cycle but staying prayerful I am 11dpiui #1 and 10dpiui #2??? Good luck and baby blessings to you!
None of us know what the magic drugs will be...Keep GOD first and he will make the magic happen!!! The bible say be fruitful and reproduce and we all get there!! Good luck to you!
bfromthed -- 11 dpiui, gonal-f/menopur, at least 3 mature eggs on good side
Maria -- 9 dpt, IVF cycle, gonal-f/menopur, 3 eggs transferred
Heather -- 9 dpiui, no meds, cyst shrinking(!), 1 natural follicle
Nettabuttr -- CD 13, on femcon to shrink cyst, next appointment 10-29
nattydivine -- CD 9, on b/c to shrink cysts, taking a break from TTC
Janice -- IVF cycle cancelled...so sorry! Hopefully November will be a much better month for you!
I jumped in to see where bfromthed is at. Praying for you. I am on cycle day 11.....on femcon to shrink cysts. Looking forward to ttc in or around the next 18 days. I know my RE is going to change up the injections.....was on Menopur only last cycle.
I am now 12dpiui#1 and 11dpiui #2 and still symptomless...took a ept/hpt last night and BFN called re's office and the nurse said it could still be too early??? Beacause I had back to backs done she said the the first one may not be the one that did the trick and if the second one did I would only be 10dpiui and that may be too early to tell since implantation can take 7-12 days??? So I am just on standby...also she said that they will not test on 11/2 but wait until af's due date which is 11/5 :(
bfromthed- I am so sorry to hear about your results. Dont give up hopes..
I took HPT test yesterday evening and one today morning and bot came positive. I am not in good shape. I am in lot of pain. Too much cramps, back pain and I am all bloated. I just called my nurse and explained what I was going through and she asked me to come over and they would do some tests. I will be going to the hospital in the afternoon. I will keep you all posted. Good luck to all.
Maria: Congratulations!!! Cramping is actually pretty normal in early pregnancy, so try not to worry about that. Good luck with the tests, and keep us posted!
Bfromthed: It might just have been too early...Give it a few days and test again. I've got my fingers crossed for you!
TT re's office today and going in tomorrow for baseline monitoring for this cycle..my re could not believe that I was calling with news of AF after having such great numbers this cycle! Thats why they say they are GODS gifts. I know when it's our time he will bless us! So I will keep posting with this months progress...Again tomorrow is baseline...they also had me do a beta which was negative at less than 2 to be on the safeside. According to their charts today should have been my implantation day thats why they had me do the test to be sure! Thanks for all the prayers and well wishes keep them going and it will happen for us! God said be fruitful and reproduce so it's coming... Thanks!
BABY DUST AND STICKY VIBES!
Oh, no! I'm so sorry about stupid AF, bfromthed! I have a feeling I'm just a few days behind you... No symptoms whatsoever. Will you be continuing on the same meds? If my cyst is gone this next cycle, I'll get to try another round of femara/menopur. Hopefully, November will be our month!!!
I am not sure going to re's office tomorrow for baseline so after the next u/s we will see how the follies are and will know the program in the next few days I will post as soon as I find out. We will have our BFP's this month together!!! Be sure to keep posting...
Heather5,
What are you taking for the cysts? I was trying to read through the posts to find out. I am on Femcon birth control pills for a total of 18 days. I have have 9 more days to go. I started on cycle day 3. My RE said I would get AF approx. 3-4 days after the last pill. Funny....I can't understand how taking b/c pills for 18 days versus 21 days would bring on AF sooner than the 28-29 day cycle I am used to. On day 3 of my cycle, I am supposed to get U/S to ***** size of cysts and determine folllie number. RE will then decide fertility course. I beleive he mentioned adding Bravelle in addiiton to Menopur. Is it possible the cysts with the help of Femcon, would reduce enough in size? I also have reservations about IUI. The costs are adding up. If IUI doesn't take this time, he will reccomend IVF. I don't know if it would be financially foolish to not go straight to IVF and make the financial sacrifice.
Well it gets worse...went to re's office today and I still have 17 follicles left over from last cycle. So we have to take a month off no meds, no iui, no treatments..we are allowed to try naturally and then with my next cycle we will start monitoring again! So good luck to all and please continue to pray for us and we will do for all of you! I will continue to post and read the post so keep em' coming!
Baby Dust and Pleanty of Sticky Vibes!
Much love and GOD bless!
bfromthed: Oh no...looks like there are quite a few of us who ended up with leftover follicles (or cysts) after the injectibles. According to my RE it's pretty common, and that's why they always want to do a CD3 sonogram before starting on any meds again. But it still s u c k s! I'll keep my fingers crossed that your natural cycle will be your lucky one.
nattydivine: Like bfromthed, I was not put on any birthcontrol to shrink the cyst, but I was also told that I could not do any meds, since that could actually increase the size of the cyst. So I just did a natural cycle with an IUI. On CD3, the cyst was 40mm(!), and by CD11, it had already shrunk to 15 mm. So hopefully it will be gone soon. I have a feeling the femcon you're taking might speed up the shrinking, though.
As for the costs, I can totally relate. I do not have any coverage for fertility, so things really do add up. Not really sure what I want to do either. My RE wants to do two more rounds of injectibles and IUI before talking about IVF. And he does try to keep the cost down for me, by having me take femara (which is actually covered with a $25 co-payment, since it's a cancer drug), and only three menopur shots plus trigger (I think I paid about $300+ for the shots). And the IUIs are $260. So it still ends up being a lot less expensive than IVF...but when you factor in the chances every month, compared to IVF, I'm not sure either... But I think I will do the two additional months of injectibles first, and if still no BFP, then see what we want to do after Christmas.
Hopefully we'll all be lucky in November, though, so we won't have to worry about IVF :-)
Hello girls!! How are you all doing? I just wanted to update you all. I am still in pain and discomfort due to hyperstimulaion bloating. My tummy looks as if t will burst open any moment. I am just resting and trying to keep myself hydrated. I had my beta done on 29th, it came back 176. Second one was done yesterday, still waiting for the results. Will keep you all posted.
Maria: Yay! That's wonderful news! 176 is a great number! I hope your beta keeps doubling!!!
As for me, not such great news. Got a BFN this a.m. at 14 dpo...but I was kinda expecting that since this cycle has seemed a bit off (no sore BBs after O, and no other signs). So, looks like I'll be starting a new cycle soon. And hopefully the cyst will be gone, so I can try another round of femara/menopur.
Bfromthed: Yeah, let's hope December...or even November will be our months!
Ok she showed her ugly ugly unwanted face! So good luck with the cyst...I am normally a 3-4 day cycle person and I am am still here with af ...I am sure its from all the follies but thats a good thing they can all wash away so I can get ready for the next cycle on a clean slate! Keep me posted! Good luck!