I understand. Same thing happened to me. I don't want to use donor eggs and shall opt for acupuncture if this is the case. I have heard cases of successful natural pregnancies using this option. I don't understand why we are all in the same boat....infertile and impossibile to conceive...5% chance over 40 getting preggers..???maybe IVF is too invasive and too rapid for our natural bodily functions? pumping in all those hormones don't help either.
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I had same experience, I had only one cycle and it faild.
Know I afraid but I have hope
I did an IVF cycle at 39, transferred 2 "perfect" day 3 embryos and got a negative. We had to wait to save up money plus I wasn't sure I was up to IVF again emotionally. I was 42.5 when we cycled again this March (with my own eggs)... we had 2 day 6 blasts that they froze and did a FET a month later. I'm now just entering my 2nd trimester so yes, it can happen and I've read many success stories on here and other forums... don't lose hope!
Hi Kris568,
I'm 37 with prematurely aging ovaries. I've been told they are equivalent to a 42 year old. I'm about to embark on my 3rd cycle. I've had 3 miscarriages now and am wondering how much longer i can continue this negative downward spiral.
I've been diagnosed with a blood clotting disorder (anti cardioalpin antibodies) and am taking blood thinners, I've been told I may have endometriosis and am taking a steroid incase its producing natural killer cells.
I keep implanting which i suppose is positive but I always end up miscarrying around 5.5 weeks. My eggs just don't seem to have what it takes to get to a heart beat stage.
I'm considering going down the path of an egg donor. I understand Spain is a great place for egg and sperm donors. Unfortunately my husband and I didn't survive this process so I'm doing it alone. I've always wanted my own biological child so I suppose I have to keep going with my own eggs until it seems like there is no hope.
To anyone out there, how many times did it take for you to conceive?
I have had 3 faiiled IUI's (1 cancelled due to OHS and thin endo) and now 2 failed IVF cycles. I am about to embark on a frozen cycle and wondered if anyone had any thoughts or feelings about this and the success rates? Wondering how many IVF cycles is enough? thinknig maybe 1 more fresh cycle if this doesnt work? Any thoughts?
Have really enjoyed reading your thoughts and comments - feel slightly more at ease and less alone!
Thanks
Thank you all for your input and personal stories. I just read through the whole thread, and even though it wasn't my question, a lot of answers were given.
Big global hug to you all!
Thank you all for your input and personal stories. I just read through the whole thread, and even though it wasn't my question, a lot of answers were given.
Big global hug to you all!
I can see now why it is even bigger decision than mine. I have made up my mind that I will consider both options but I do have the same worries than you do. And I don't think it is shallow at all! We wouldn't be humans if we wouldn't dream of seeing how our biological child would look like and if they have inherited eg. our artistic skills. Could you find anyone in your near family who could be a donor? This way there would be shared genes with you and your child even if you would decide to use donor eggs.
I was terrified when I saw the prices in US...They are more than double what we have to pay and I am sure that the quality of the treatment does not differ. I also checked the country of origin where I am coming from -in Scandinavia one IVF treatment is less than half the price than in US.
I also checked the statistics from one of the best clinics in Scandinavia. They state their success rates related to a confirmed pregancy (heartbeat seen in an ultrasound) which I think is the best way of showing statistics (success info collection varies a lot between different clinics in any country making it hard for us to compare and some clinics already count all positive pregancy tests as a success -and we all know how common miscarriage is in early pregnancy).
What they said in this particular clinic is that for women around 40 years the success rate in 2006 was 16% per cycle. Which is quite good compared to those who show positive pregancy tests and claim 30% success rates.
I will also be 40 in few months so we are almost the same age. In my case the FSH was 8.1 which is still okay, but not good. I was also reading about antibodies. A professor in this same clinic I was talking earlier said that they have had research results related to antibodies and now recommend testing antibodies with very detailed blood tests if women have had many failed IVF attempts. Of course the most common thing is our age affecting to the quality of the eggs and thus affecting to implantation possibilities. But the second thing is these antibodies and he said that in some cases they have prescribed cortisone to assist implantation. Unfortunately he didn't tell more details about this. Anyway I thought that I will ask about it from my doctor if that could help us also.
I wish you strength SHP, it is hard to decide between these options. Especially when there is so many questions the so called modern medicine cannot answer yet. I dread this "unexplained fertility" diagnose. If someone could just tell what is the reason why we keep failing but looks like we might never know for sure.
I will be 40 in Feb. and wish that I could just have one biological child of my own. I think that if we wanted more that donor egg wouldn't bother me. I am part American Indian (a small amount) but it shows. I look just like my mother and as a child I loved that. Also 3rd generation artist. I know that a child of mine could come out looking just like my husband but always wondered what our genes would do. It is just knowing that I never had a chance to see is the death of a dream. God I do sound shallow. As I have stated before I had one high fsh come back one time. My bloodwork is always perfect and they say that my uterus looks great. That is what makes this decision so very hard. I was still ovulating 9 or 10 months a year when I went to my RE. Those eggs just weren't fertilizing. I am in the U.S. and it costs $10,000 for my eggs and $20,000 for a donor egg where I live. I was told by my RE that my eggs gave me a 20% chance and that the donor gave me 50-60 all because of my age and high fsh. I am doing better sorting this out. Deciding between the two options is still killing me though.
Hi Lynda544,
Thank you for sharing your story, it helped me to further clarify what to do. I didn't know about the odds so it was good to have that information also! I feel like I am much more prepared already to go to the next appointment and make decisions when needed. Of course I hope that I could continue with my own eggs, but now I am ready with donor option too.
Hi SHP,
I have done three cycles of IVF and probably I will try 1-2 more with my own eggs if doctor recommends it but I will simultaneously start to look donor egg option as it can take time before we can find a match. If our doctor will say that it is better to go with donor eggs already then that is what I will do. I live in Australia and the law restricts these issues and therefore it can make the process longer. We have saved money so these are the ones we can still do. I am prepared to go through 3 more IVF cycles, either with my own or with donor eggs.
Hi. I am 44 and pregnant after my 1st attempt at IVF. For me, what made all the difference is using donor eggs. I have two bio kids conceived at 37 and 39. I love being a Mom, and talked my husband into 1 more. My husband and I looked into adoption this time because it never occured to me that I could carry my own. We were almost at the end of the adoption process when I found out I was pregnant. Unfortunately, the egg stopped growing (due to age)and I had to have a D&C. It was heartbreaking but It got my husband's mind into thinking "maybe her body could get pregnant".
After the D&C I went to a fertility doctor. Odds using my own eggs 5%, donor 65%. I found a donor in 2 weeks. She is 21. She produced 20 eggs, 13 went to the blastocyst stage, transfered 2, froze 13.
At first I wondered how it would feel to use a donor egg. To me, it feels like it did before except I have more hope. I get to carry the baby. I get to feel it kick. I get to nurse it. My husband who is the sperm donor misses out on all the maternal things. Even though someone donated the egg I already feel like the Mom. Don't give up! It will eventually work.
How long are you emotionally and financially willing to go? How many times are you willing to try this?
I am so sorry to read that you miscarried after such a great start! I don't think that we will ever find out why all these things happen... Sometimes it is just pure luck if these embryos will implant. I read that the possibility for implantation is around 40% in average. But for me it sounds that you have possibilities to succeed since this cycle started so well.
With the donor egg - I think the first question to all of us considering this option is that can we handle it if our child has genes from our spouse but none from us? I know it sounds terrible, but some of the couples I have been talking with said that first they felt jealous because their husband was "luckier" and had the chance to have a biological child. But I think after the first thoughts it just feels a great option as it will still give us the possibility to carry a child if it won't be possible with our own eggs.
With the adoption issue.. We have problems too. Currently living in another country and cannot adopt in there since we are not citizens. So we should move back and leave our work to start this process and currently it is not possiblle.
These are hard questions what we all have to handle - the money issue, mental and physical issues, how to stay strong. I keep my thumbs up that you will find the best solution for you both. Let the sadness past first and then consider all options. That is what I did. I gave myself a full permission to let it all out and loud and then I started to list issues I want to discuss with my doctor when I will see him in February. And then I will make the final decisions how to continue.
SHP I wish you all the best. Please do not loose hope - you have good chances to become a mom!
And thank you for everybody for sharing your stories! Nothing helps so much than talking with others who are in similar situations. It is more that important to read success stories and see that there can be light in the end of the tunnel. Warm hugs to you all!!
I do not know how someone could find the money for 19 attempts. Our finances are limited and we aren't that lucky. I would try forever if I could. We did IUI 5 times - nothing happened. The first IVF was called off because I only produced one egg. I have high fsh and was told that this would be difficult. I was ready to go to a donor egg when my RE wanted to try a new protocol. I had 7 mature eggs from that. 4 fertilized and grew between 7 & 10 cells. The lab and RE were blown away at how good they looked and how many we had. All were implanted. One attached but I have now miscarried. I am so confused now. If money weren't an issue I would keep trying with mine. I wish that we had not had the sucess that we did because it gave me hope and a part of me wants to try again with my eggs but realize that my chromosomes may be screwed up. Should I just be safe and go with a donor egg? I am so torm up about this. I have cried all day. I have also found out how hard it will be for someone my age to adopt- again much more money than I originally thought. We have been togther 5 years but only made it legal 2 months ago and agencies have issue with that. These two things prevent me from going through normal channels. So the easiest way for me to get a baby seems to be a donor egg. Should I just surrender and go for the better odds? I keep praying that God removes the desire for my own dna so that I can easily change my mind to the donor egg. I am running out of money and emotionally the fear and anxiety is wearing on me.
Definately dont give up! all the best to you.....
My friends just gave birth to there daughter Abbi Louise a few weeks back. She was conceived after 19 IVF Attempts in 5/6 years! Graham is about 26 and Toni is in her mid - late 30s. Toni has unexplained infertility I think. Theyre only aquaintences so I dont know much more. Im sooo happy for them and I think its just such a nice success story!
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You defintely have options. Don't give up. It takes an avg. of 3 IVF's for success. You have age on your side because after 40 egg quality begins to speedily decline, then after 42 the decline is rapid and dramatic. So, being 39 is in your favor! IVF with donor eggs is successful for women up to age 50! You have time and options. Just stay strong and persistant.
I am currrently pregnant from my 2nd IVF attempt. The first try we had 6 eggs fertilize, and none were good quality. We transferred 2, and the others didn't make it to cryo. The IVF failed, and my RE changed my meds in an attempt to get more eggs in the hopes that one would be better quality. Well, we actually got less eggs, but as the saying goes, all it takes is one. We had 3, and transferred all 3. I am also 39. We had ICSI done on half of our eggs. We had undiagnosed infertility. Our RE had already started advising us that we may want to save one of our insurance-covered IVF cycles for donor eggs. You still have options, don't give up.
Thank you so much for this information! I think I have to start to check the same option and discuss about it with my doctor. I am producing enough eggs, but seems that their quality is not good enough. Both of the embryos were 1st grade quality in this 3rd transfer, but still they didn't implant. The hardest part is not to know why it is not happening....Maybe I should just accept that it is my age.
I'm so sorry that your 2nd and 3rd cycles haven't worked. I'm 44, & got pg on the 2nd cycle but I used donor eggs so that makes a huge difference (my eggs are too old). Hope you get your bfp really, really soon and ssbd!