Red Rover Red Rover, send AGP girls right over!

HI Ladies,
Saw Heather's post and I thought I would make up the new thread.  Seems like all I have is time on my hands this 2WW.  I am really crappy at roll call, so I was wondering if Lisa, you would do the honors.  

Heather, Im glad you're feeling much better.. maybe this is the start of many many days of not feeling ill.

Where's Magda?  Haven't seen her for a few days, maybe she's lurking around like me.

Kari, Saw you are just starting another IVF round.. SSBD!

Helen.. sooo exciting with all your delicious eggs!  Here's to the little men finding their way!

JA.. Sorry to hear about AF.. she is so nasty.. we all hate her so.. heres an idea... JA.. send AF over to Lisa!

Krista.. How are your wine + wheat grass cocktails?  Sounds soo delish (making vomit noises)

Jen.. I left you a sweet note the other day.. ON HEATHERS HOME PAGE.. Im such a spaz sometimes.. sorry ladies.. and good luck Jen.. seems like you and Timeisticking are both shooting up right now.. I'll take the belly shots over the HCG shots any day!

EMpty & Mary.. Where are you two?  Can't seem to find your important info.


As for me.. nothing.. CD7.. just hanging out trying to think pregnant thoughts, but keeping the IVF thought in the back of my head.  I think I just may be one of those women that needs IVF to get pregnant.. and bring on the antagonist protocol!
BTW.. Not mych going on in the vagina area as of yet this morning, but I will sooo keep you all posted :)

Sally

[sasparilla]

Bump
Bueller?  Bueller?

[Jackson_Angel]

~>.."RED ROVER" ~...the little B**STRD showed up at my door ~ GO AWAY ALREADY!~..~uuummmppphhhhh........well, will be "signing away our lives tomorrow" to start the IVF process ~ ..??..~wish us luck~!!~:-)))

[Kari15]

J_A, so it's official then?  The old witch really did show?  Grrrrrr........ So mad on your behalf!  I agree with Sally, you should send her over to Lisa!  I know the prospect of IVF may seem overwhelming, but the key is to just take everything one day at a time when you are cycling.  There will probably be a good discussion about what you can expect at your IVF consult appt, but I think the most important thing to focus on is that IVF brings the best success rates of any IF treatment.  Let us know how it goes at your appt!

Heather, so happy to hear you are feeling a bit better.  Hopefully the good days will soon far outnumber the sick days!!!

Helen, Wondering how your embies are doing!  I guess if you had a day-3 transfer scheduled well then today would be the day!!!  I'm gonna have to go see if I missed that bit of info somewhere.  Hopefully your embies are still looking good and maybe you'll even get some frosties from this cycle!!!

TimeisTicking, I'm glad Helen could help clarify E2 for you.  I've heard that it's best for E2 to be below 3000 around time of trigger if they can manage it, but anything above 4000 is risky for OHSS. (This is what I've heard... I'm sure there are cases where E2 was over 4000 and things went fine.)  My fist try at IVF my E2 was 7300 and I had over 54 follies so they cancelled me completely.  Talk about a trainwreck!  My second go at it my E2 was 2800 at time of trigger and I had 40 follies (30 eggs retrieved, 19 mature).  There were embryo quality issues, so the goal this time is to get as few eggs as possible (ironic isn't it, when most people want lots and lots of eggs?).  How many days have you been on stims now???

Well my appt went okay this morning... definitely nervous cause my miracle grow tendencies seem to be back.  At least 16 follies on the right and 15 on the left.  Not happy about that... I really wanted like 15 total this time so that we could hopefully see better quality.  Waiting for E2 results... hopefully that is under control, I'm just so terrified of OHSS.  Only 7 days into stims and I feel the fullness.  I can handle it tho, as long as I see a sticky BFP this time!!!

How is everyone else doing?    

[Jackson_Angel]

~Kari ~ how many IVF sessions have you gone through..??.. ~ I'm really nervous but excited at the same time ~ and angry at wasting all the time at the other "RE" ~ aarrgghhhhhh....could bite his head off (although I'd probably get sick as heck since he's a scumsucker) ~ ANYWAY ~ thanx for all the support!!...

[Kari15]

Sounds funny, but I'm not exactly sure how to count how many times I've done IVF... everyone tells me not to count my cancelled cycle, but my bank account and my ovaries would tell you that it should be counted!!! ;)   Basically, this is my 3rd fresh attempt.  My first fresh attempt ended on what s/h/b trigger day due to over-stim.  My second fresh attempt we did E/R (30 eggs, 19 mature, ICSI and 17 fertilized) and then I had a fresh transfer and two frozen transfers.  Even though I still have 6 frosties, they are all C grade... we didn't see a single A-grade embryo with any of the 17 successfully fertilized that we had.  :(  So hopefully this fresh attempt will bring that sticky BFP we've been trying so hard for.  

PS - RE called and E2 went from 143 Tues to 545.  They said to drop my follistim to 100 units tonite and keep repronex at 1 vial in the morning.  Guess the upside to being a super responder is that the cost of my meds is much lower than average, which is pretty nice considering we have paid every cost out of pocket!!! =) =) =)  We'll find out at my appt on Sat when I'll trigger!

[timeisticking]

Hello Ladies,

Sally thanks for starting the new thread!!!!!! Hopefully this will be your month and you can look at the letters IVF and throw them out the window!!!!!!!!

I dont have anything to update in today. I go back tomorrow for another u/s and bw, more then likley I will do shooting myself up with the trigger shot. I have heard horror stories on how much it hurts. Do it really hurt?....lol.

Kari, i left u a note did not find out a new thread was up untill after I posted it. I have been on stims for 8 days now and girl am I ready to stop!!!!! Is that a long time to be on stims? Hopefully when I go back tomorrow my Re will tell me to take the trigger. When do you go back for another u/s and b/w?

Jackson_Angel, best of luck on your first IVF cycle. My only advice for you is not to stress out. I know it easier said then done but just take it day by day. Becuase girl I have worked myself up into a mess over these last couple  of weeks.

Helen, cant wait to hear about your update a nd how your ET goes.

And all my other ladies going through this TTC battle lots and lots and lots of sticky baby dust your way!!!!!!

[timeisticking]

And I almost forgot!!!!!

Kari you said that you are feeling the fullness. thank GOD I am not alone. Girl when I walk or stand I can feel pressure and it feels like my belly is super large!! Guess thats a good thing right? well I hope so!!!!!!

[Kari15]

Yes, I guess the fullness feeling is something we should expect when our ovaries are in overdrive!  So it's probably nothing to be worried about.  So I think 8 days on stims is pretty good... Seems like I hear most patients stim for 8-12 days so you must have done a very good job!  I stimmed for 10 days on my last cycle and triggered the nite of the 10th day.  Well I'm anxious to hear your update tomorrow!  Keep us posted!  

[babyalive]

Sally,
Thanks for starting a new thread.  Sorry, I'm a bit depleated these days and not up to posting, or starting threads.  I'll be up and running soon I'm sure.

Don't know if it's the progesterone, or what.  But, I've got a migraine and can't think straight.  Am barely able read this thread and making sense at the moment is difficult.  So, I'll just say my thoughts and prayers are with all of you.  Sally, I hope it won't have to come to IVF.  But, if it does I know it'll work for you and you'll be a mommy one way or another.
Lisa

[HeathJo]

Sally--Thanks for starting the thread sweetie! I believe Magda is off to a weekend holiday. I am glad to hear your vagina is doing well and can't wait for the next report! Seriously though, the 2ww sux, and I am praying for you.

Kari--Gosh, sounds like you have really been through the ringer. I am really, truly sending you all my heartfelt thoughts, prayers and best wishes that this cycle will work out :-)

Time/Ticking--Good luck to you as well, and no, I don't think the trigger shot is too bad. Of all the other stuff we endure TTC, it's a minimal thing. I hope it goes OK for you and you don't return to say it was awful and I should have warned you :-D

JA--Sounds like you are looking ahead with a good attitude. You go, girl!

Helen--Are you OK? I worry when I don't hear from you. . .

Lisa--I, too, have had horrible, almost weekly migraines, so I feel your pain. This may meen AF is coming, so I guess that's one positive. Also, if you started on the Provera, which is progesterone, that can cause them. My high progesterone is the culprit also. I hope the suffering ends soon for you. Let me know if there is anything I can do besides be your friend and pray :-)

I myself am doing fairly well, all things considered. Slept mostly all day. The shingles are causing me a lot of nerve pain, and I still have nausea when I first wake up, but all in all this is an improvement from previous weeks. I have two doctor's appts. back-to-back tomorrow morning, so I'm off to sleep even more!

[Jen7900]

Hi Ladies...

Quick update from my cave where I've been studying away...

Exam is tomorrow morning - think good thoughts - its a biggie and I need to pass!

As for my fertility issues...
Saw RE this morning for u/s and b/w. They say approx 14 follies but very immature. I've been stimming for 4 days now so they've bumped up the meds and I will be going for another u/s and b/w on Sunday morning (at 7am - ewww). My estradiol (i really don't know what that is to tell you the truth) was 52. The RE said it was low and they are hoping it will climb in the next few days. At this rate my retrieval will probably be next Fri or Sat. In the meantime, the follie factory will be working on overdrive!

Lisa - Migraines? Girl, you just can't seem to win right now! Take care of yourself. I will pray for AF soon (I sent her a text message the other day to get over there asap) and she owes me some favors (she gave me many of scares as a teenager)!

Sally - the ultrasound tech commented on how great my lining looked today - said it looked like "it all came out nicely" - she was right on! I'm sure I don't have to describe that one for you - but thats how i started my day. :)

Heath - shingles? holy moly! I sent you a PM with my thoughts on that one! Send an update after tomorrow...I will be awaiting.

Helen - where are you my IVF bud? I need info...I don't know what estradiol is and you are the human glossary for this type of stuff! Help!! :)

love you all...will be back tomorrow after testing away!

[kp1212]

Good morning all!

Jen, GOOD LUCK on that exam!  Make the AGP proud! :-)

JA, So sorry about your current situation.  I'm sure the IVF will work for you--it is stessful, but exciting.  Try your hardest to stay positive and keep your stress down.  I do accupuncture twice per week which really seems to help!

Sally, it is friday, and has been a few days since a hoo-ha update from down south...;-)

Lisa, Sorry about the migraines.  That really blows.  Hope you are feeling better soon.

Heath, Hope you are feeling better today...keep resting and baking those buns in that oven of yours!

Helen, missing your comments lately!  Hope you are ok.  Thinking of you!

Time-keep us posted on your b/w and US today!

Kari-Yikes...sounds like you have a lot of follies fighting for the chance to be "the one"!  Keep us posted!

As for me, I start Lupron on May 7th...Let the games begin!!!

(sorry if I left anyone out...too early to think clearly!)

Another great day...enjoy it!

Krista

[sasparilla]

Hi y'all.  So far, not much to report yet.. 8 DPIUI and Im super sleepy.  Had nightmares last night.  I'm going back to sleep and I'll try and come up with something informative, yet silly,.

[HeathJo]

Krista--Starting on the 7th, eh? Lucky number!!!

Sally--I am re-living the 2 ww with you, as I was so sleepy also and had (and still do) nightmares and weird dreams also. I hope this means BFP. . .

As for me, the docs say the twins are doing FABULOUS, and I am feeling better today than I have in several days. So, all is well.

FYI:

Baby A is 8.5 cm long with a heart rate of 144, and Baby B is 8.3 cm long with a heart rate of 138, measuring "crown to rump." These stats or right on target with where they are supposed to be for their gestational age. They were both doing little flips and moving around a bunch. It was so precious to see them! I am having an amnio on May 12th, and they usually get the results back in 24-48 hours, so this means I will know what we are having in 10-12 days!!! I cannot wait to find out.

[Kari15]

Heath, that is fabulous news!!!  The twins sounds like they are growing just beautifully (brings happy tears to my eyes!) and how awesome that you have started to feel better!  Congrats girl!

Krista, lupron is so close for you!  Just 5 short days away!!!  Once you take that first shot, time will really move quickly and you'll be in the meat of your IVF cycle before you know it!  Good luck!

Sally, fingers are still tightly crossed for you that this 2WW ends with a very sticky BFP!!!

Helen, you and your embabies are in my thoughts.  

Not much to update here... just feeling those 30 follies sitting heavy on my ovaries... hoping we don't see any more in the mix at tomorrow's u/s appt.  Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!

Timeisticking... any update yet???  I think you had an appointment today and you get to find out if you've take your last stim shot and get to trigger this weekend!!!  Thinking of you!

Lisa, well I sure hope that migraine was an indicator that AF is on her way!!!  How are you feeling today?

Jen, hope things went well with your exam today!

[HeathJo]

Kari--Thanks, hon! I hope your follies get healthier and healthier, and not more abundant! I BET your ovaries feel heavy! You have Schwarzenegger strength in them just to hold them up, you Girlie Man! Seriously though, hang in there :-)

[timeisticking]

Hello my lovely ladies!!!

Sorry So late on my update, been at my sisters house pretty much all day.

Ok so here it is!!!! 31 follies total ranging from 17 and 19. My Re wants me to stim tonight and I have to report back to the dr tomorrow at 10:45 for another u/s and b/w, tomorrow night I also have to trigger and Monday is the big big day ( MY ET)!!!!

Kari , I can totally understand and relate about your ovaries feeling heavy becuase I am right along with you and are having the same feelings. I hope it gets better after they are taken out?????

[sasparilla]

  Thats is such exciting news Timeisticking (do you have a real name that is easier to type?)  Sounds like you and Kari are super follie  makers!  Good luck to both of you!!!!

Im thinking of a cheer:

Follie Fans Its Time to Shout
Come on Everybody
And Help Us Out
Yell Eggs and Sperm
(Eggs and Sperm!) <- Crowd
Let's Win Tonight!

OMG, I am an uber geek.  I never was a cheerleader.. too busy causing trouble.

Heather, so glad you're still feeling well and not praying to the porcelain gods.

Where in the H. E. double hockey sticks is Helen?  Shes startin to make me nervous. We need an update lady!

Lisa, they make this awesome new headache product called Wine.. you should try it.  1 Rx for  2 glasses of wine.. prescibed by Dr. Sally

Jen, you sound so busy..I just dont see how you get it all done.  Heres to a grade A on your test and Grade A blasts!


JA.. Hope your visit w/Dr. about IVF  went well, and good luck on your fist try!

As for me Im just sitting around watching the clock go by (in between horrific nightmares of boogey men and the end of the world).  We have company next week (some super famous tattoo artist guy) so I'm staying busy washing anything that isn't nailed down.  I'm not letting DH walk on any bath mats, use any of the "Don't touch towels" or pee with the seat still down like he wants to first thing in the morning.  Being from the South it goes against all that is sacred to have a dirty house for c'mpny.  I think I might throw all the pets in the good old washing machine too.. put it on cold, heavy load..LOL..kidding of course.  Next up.. get out the old carpet cleaner..
I'm still really thinking I'm not preggers this month because I don't want to get my hopes up (y'all know how it is).  Heck, after almost 3 years of negatives, you learn to really not expect much.

Thats it for now.  Good luck to all the cyclers!!! (Re-read my cheer when neccesary)

Sally

[HeathJo]

Time/Ticking--HOORAY! Way to go, girl! I am so excited for you and cannot wait to hear how your ET and everything after goes. And, yes, do you have a name you feel comfortable sharing?

Sally--HAHAHA that cheer was cute. I, too, was too busy raisin' hell to be a cheerleader. That's cool that you are hosting a famous house guest, and pretty darn cool that tattoo artistry is your family biz. I have two myself, although, ironically, people would never guess b/c they think I look like the cheerleader/sorority type. Nothing could be further from the truth. Not that there's anything wrong with it, it's just my personality. BTW, where in the South are you from? I am Texas born and raised, and went to Tulane in Louisiana, so I hear ya about the hospitality stuff. Hopefully this houseguest will help the time go by during the rest of your 2ww.

[miky72]

I'm back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I missed you all soooooo much!!!!
I'm going to my RE on Monday to learn how to inject Lupron (my first 2 IVF were antagonist so no lupron!!).
I'm sending SSSSSBD to all of us!!!
Miky

[kp1212]

I think it is time to come clean...I was a cheerleader at a huge university, and taught cheerleading across the country for several years!  Here's the funny thing...I am so NOT the "cheerleading type".  Truth is, I am stubborn as all h@*l!  Someone told me that I would NEVER be able to do it, which pissed me off, and well...the rest is history!
Whew...coming clean feels good!  Ha ha!  :-)
Krista

[Jackson_Angel]

~>didn't go well at all ~ at least not the way I had HOPED it would ~ .......

[HeathJo]

Krista--My little neices are way into competitive athletic cheerleading and gymnastics. I was a gymnast, but kept breaking bones! I will come clean and say I tried out for cheerleader in junior high, but wasn't popular enough to make it (it was more of a popularity contest than based on ability.) I had friends and wasn't a total nerd, but only the prettiest and wealthiest girls made it. In high school, I attended an all-girls catholic school, so I was too busy rebelling against the nuns to take an interest.

JA--What happened, honey?

[Jen7900]

Just a quick update...

Thank you to ALL of you wonderful friends for your notes and thoughts of good luck! I PASSED THE EXAM!!!!! I never have to take another one again!!!! WOooooooHoooo!!

Now I just have to get thru the IVF process! Going to the RE on Sunday morning for another u/s and b/w and will report back then!

love you all!!!
jen

ps - i was a cheerleader in high school and that cheer was FANTASTIC!! (G-O Sally!)

[Jackson_Angel]

...~ I'm VERY depressed at the moment ~ DH stood on his "principles" of the possibility of having a child with Autism so he refused the past 8 yrs to have another child ~ within the past 6 months I lose my Sister, Mom & Dad and he decides NOW he should "DO THE RIGHT THING" and "LET ME"... have another child ~ now the dunce finds out it's too late and I'll have to buy a donor egg (according to TWO different RE's) in order to get pregnant because he waited so long ~ and my eggs are extinct (according to the IVF community) we were told Cornell stops after 40 ~ GREAT NEWS ~ we were pushed into looking at donors for the eggs ~ and now since the insurance doesn't cover the cost of the donor we'll be out an additional $15k++....I know it's not about the money, and it's about having a child ~ but damn it I wanted MY OWN DNA ~ not just his ~ it is just TOTALLY UNFAIR and I don't know how to deal with it right now ~ drowning (literally) my sorrows with MEGA MERLOT.

[Kari15]

Oh J-A, my heart goes out to you.  I feel your frustration and you are entitled.  Sounds like you've had a rough year and I think I'd feel the same way if I were in your shoes.  I'm so sorry Hun.

Jen, congrats on the exam.  Good luck at your appt tomorrow!

Sally, your cheer was awesome... Thx for the smile!  :)

Appt went good today.  I am up to 40 follies tho, but my RE knows we won't get eggs from all of them and my E2 is still under control at 1500.  I drop follistim to just 25 units tonite and go back tomorrow for another u/s and b/w.  Prob trigger Mon!!!

[kp1212]

JA, so sorry about everything.  I know it is really hard not to resent DH.  My husband drug his feet for a VERY long time, and now my FSH is elevated and I may not be able to conceive with my own eggs.  I may very well be in your boat, as my RE loosely mentioned the DE option at my last visit.  Truly, I'm sorry for you and the disappointment and anger you feel right now.  Why is you husband so scared of autism?  Is there a family history?  (sorry if I am prying--just ignore me if you want!)

Kari,
GEEZ...40 follies?  You are a rock star!  Can't wait to hear the results!

Jen, left you a note, but again...CONGRATULATIONS!!!  so exciting!!!

My meds came in the mail today...have them all stacked neatly in the refrigerator just waiting to do their jobs!!!  Injections start on Wednesday!

Krista

[Jackson_Angel]

~>No family history of it at all ~ it's a ludicrous fear ~ but a fear just the same ~ I brought it out in the RE's office (and told him how if I brought another woman's child into the world I may resent it due to what he had done to me and didn't want to do that ~ I love children bt wanted my OWN DNA dammit) and he started crying saying he realizes now how stupid the fear was because he didn't research it, but when his friend ended up having one it terrified him ~ ....his current fear should be living long enough to opay me back for what he stole from me now.................!

[timeisticking]

UPDATE!!!!!!!!

Jackson_Angel, I can understand your fustration, if I was in your shoes I would feel the same way.

Kari, 40 follies.....YOU GO GIRL!!!!. wow that is really good.

Appt today went as I expected. I didnt ask how many follies I had I actually forgot, but probaly around the same from yesterday 31 or a little more. I will trigger tonight and Monday morning  at 8:00am he will do the retrieval. (THANK GOD!!!)

I know my screen name is a little long ladies so another name for me is.......DRUM ROLL.......................   RENELL!!!!!. (thats my birth name)

I will keep you girls posted and let yoyu know how the retrievel went!!!!!

Renell

[Jen7900]

Kari and Renell - You guys are my follie inspiration! When I went for the last u/s they said I had 14 follies that they could see but my E2 was only 52 and they said some more might pop up after increasing the stim meds. So the RE doubled the dose of Bravelle and my next u/s is tomorrow morning. My question is...what meds are you guys on??

My IUI's were all done on Follistim and I responded very well. The new RE changed me to Bravelle (which i had never heard of) and now I don't think it's working as well. I really hope things are looking better tomorrow.

Also, AF showed up in the form of black discharge last weekend and I am still bleeding...is this normal? My periods are NEVER this long! Any info would be great!

Thanks for all the congrats and notes re the exam. It has been a 10 year journey to get here and it is so surreal that it is finally over. Or maybe I should say "just beginning".

[timeisticking]

The meds that I was taken was Gonal-F at 150 and Menopur at 75. I was on the meds for 9 days. If im not mistaken Bravelle and Menopur is the same thing but im not 100% sure. Overall 14 follies is not bad at all thats actulaay pretty good. How many days have you been on your meds? and at what dosage?

[Kari15]

Hey Krista!  How exciting that your meds came!  And prob a bit overwhelming too!  I look forward to following your cycle.  Thanks for thinking I'm a rockstar with my 40 follies, but I've had such trouble in the past with too many follies (cancelled once and then wasted FOREVER transferring poor quality embies the next time) that I'm actually kinda disappointed with so many again. But looks like we're moving forward with E/R and I feel confident we'll get a couple of quality embies this time!  Lots of positive thinking!!!

Hi Renell, WooHoo for E/R on Monday!!!!  That is super!  Hope you are feeling okay... now that you've triggered you'll want to be more careful then ever to stay hydrated and consume lots of electrolytes... sodium and potassium.  Hopefully there'll be lots more HCG pumping thru you system soon after transfer!  Do you know if it'll be a day-5 or day-3?  One more day till the big retrieval!!!  Are you doing ICSI?

Jen, Let me tell you first off that I truly believe 15 follies is the perfect number... so you are right there sister! =) Believe me, I'd rather have 10 follies than 30 follies (or 40!)  any day.  I know SOOO many people who had five or six embryos and conceived.  Don't doubt your 14 follies... I bet they are super high quality!  And I am taking a vial of repronex in the morning and about 125 of follistim in the evening.  I think that's a fairly low dose, but I respond powerfully... looks like Renell does too.  As for the meds... bravelle, gonal-F, and follistim are very similar in that they contain almost entirely FSH and little to no LH.  Repronex and menopur are similar in that they contain equal amounts of LH and FSH.  Hope that helps!  Can't wait to hear about your appt tomorrow... keep us posted!  Oh BTW, my AF with this IVF started with a very very dark discharge and then last longer than usual... a good 3-4 days into stims.  I'm sure you are okay, but def mention it to your RE if you are worried.

Heath, hope you are continuing to feel better!  

J_A, thinking of you this evening.  

[sasparilla]

Uhhh.. Im not sure how to feel about this because it could be the trigger, but I don't think it is.  I tested out my trigger this month and it was out by 7 DPIUI (which would be 9 DP Trigger shot).  It was negative again on 9 DPIUI (11 DP Trigger).  
Well today I POAS again and it was positive.  Not super dark, but visible to the naked eye ( didn't have to hold it up to the light like a psycho or anything).  Im freaking out and I never thought I would be one of those women that would be like, am I or am I not?  But here I am.  I can post pics if you would like.  I am so nervous!!   I am cautiously optimistic, and I explained the whole thing to DH (almost didn't show him).. so anyone have any suggestions for what I can do today while I wait to retest again in the morning so I don't completely jump out of my skin??/ Arghhhhh..
I am sooooo about to lose it.

[babyalive]

Oh Sally, I am soo happy!  Here I go doing a circle of cartwheels................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

(out of breath).  I think all your cheering just rocked those follies right into embryos!  

A line is a line is a line.  A faint line is a line.  You are 10 dpiui?  My sister's last pregnancy she tested at 9dpo, got a bfn, then retested at 10 dpo and got a bfp.  9 months later she delivered a very healthy baby girl.  
It is early and if you tested before 7dpiui with no line than it is not the trigger you are reading.  It's your own body's HCG it's reading.  Test again in the morning and I'm sure it' ll be darker.  What day do you go in for your beta?

Congratulations Sally!!

[sasparilla]

HI Lisa, I am LOSING MY S*~H~*~I~*T*!!!!!!!!!!  Did you see the pics I put up???  Hubby is trying to be cool and I made him kiss my belly for good luck. BUT.. I refuse to acknowledge pure happiness until tomorrow.  So, if y'all see a big fat crying post from me in the morning, you'll know what it means.  

[sasparilla]

I took my pics down.. Im thinking it can't be real, so, I'll test again tomorrow..If its darker I'll let y'all know.

[Kari15]

Sally!  This is awesome news!!!! Lisa is right, a line is a line!!!  False positives really just don't happen!  I'm gonna stay positive for you... I know how it must feel to want to proceed with cautious optimism, but I think this is it!!!  Wish I could've seen the pics... I look forward to your post tomorrow morning!!!

PS, it's official... I am triggering tonite and E/R Tuesday!!!!

[Jen7900]

Sally - HOLY C**R**A**P!!!! I seriously hope this is the one for you. Im thinking only positive things and will look forward to checking back tomorrow!!! I've got a good feeling sister!!

Kari - How exciting!! Your almost there!!

So I went to the RE this morning and didn't get great news. I still have 14-ish follies, but my E2 is only 104. The doc thinks Im just not responding well to Bravelle. I had two choices to make; (1) cancel the cycle (im on day 8 so still a little early) and do another IUI and next cycle go back to Follistim, or (2) up the meds to a super high dose (with the hope of not overstimming) for the next 2 days and go back on Tues for the final word. I chose choice 2 and will be upping the meds for a few days. I'm really bummed. I thought this was really gonna happen and now it might not and i'll have to start all over...ugh. Keep positive thoughts and do a little prayer - i could use it.

Crazy but i keep thinking that maybe Ms. Cleo was right...that B*I*A*T*C*H.

[HeathJo]

JA__I am sorry for you having to deal with all these issues. I hope you and dh can get to a better place, and that your feelings about donor eggs may change after some time. I believe you are totally justified in wanting your "own" baby and resenting dh for his irrational fears. Just feel what you need to feel, and hopefully a bit of time to absorb all this will help.

Kari & Renell--Here's to Frsh Grade A Quality Eggs for your E/R!!!

Krista--Good luck with your meds :-)

Sally--I got a BFN at 9dpiui and 11 dpiui, and only knew I was pg when I had a blood test done at 14 dpiui, and that was with an HCG of 600 and being pg with triplets! SO, the fact that you have any line at all is a GREAT sign. I do understand about being freaked out and not wanting to get your hopes up. I was that way up until about 10 weeks being pg! Keep us posted. . .

Jen--Congrats on your exam, and sorry to hear you have to go up on the meds. I hope it works. I am sending SSBD to you :-)

Lisa--HAPPY BIRTHDAY, my fellow Taurus. You know I love ya!

[kp1212]

Sally,
WOOO HOOO!!!!  Can't wait to hear the official positive!  So exciting!

Jen,
That's a bummer.  Same thing happened to me during my last cycle.  I chose option 1 (I only had 3 measurable follies on day 8).  The chances of the IVF working for me were soooo slim (there was hardly anything to work with), I opted for a brand new cycle (which starts in 3 days).  I'm thinking of you tonight and will send a prayer to the big guy upstairs.

Kari,
Hope you are resting well tonight...you have a big couple of days coming up!  Yeah for you!

JA,
Hope you are feeling a little better...been thinking of you!

Has anyone heard from Helen?  Getting a bit worried about her!

Krista

[Jen7900]

Thanks for sharing. I have a question...

When you cancelled the cycle, did you have an IUI instead? Also, when you started a new cycle did you have to do the BCP again? In essence, did you have to start over from the very start again? I feel like thats just such a long time from now if we have to do that again.

I had 3 measurable follies and today is CD8 - just like you. It was such a bummer. Thanks for sending the big guy a message on my behalf...I too have been chatting with him all day and asking for some help. I'll know more on Tuesday.

Any info would be great.

[Jackson_Angel]

COOPER CENTER HAS AGREED TO DO THE IVF WITH MY EGGS ~YEA!..??..~ Now I'm nervous sitting here thinking about the possibility of wasting more time trying with my own eggs ony to find out it would have Downs Syndrome or my having another possible miscarriage ~ OH GOD this is SO stressful ~ through your prompting and advice I had contacted Cooper and they responded back saying yes ~ I'm on day 5 of my cycle with no meds and informed them ~ will call later this morning to see what they instruct me to do ~ AM I CRAZY ~ should I just continue on with the DE ~ I pushed for this now I'm nervous as hell.....DH isn't talking to me ~ gave him a HORRID weekend since he did this to me/us.......

[sasparilla]

Hi Ladies,
  Well, it is BFN.  Must have been the trigger.  I should have known better.  My beloved second line is completely gone.  I Should have known that with my stupid luck it wouldn't be as easy as an IUI.  This sucks, but that's life.  Now i know my heartburn is just from stress.  Yuck.. Im going to go lick my wounds.. maybe take a long bike ride.

Sally

[kp1212]

Hi Jen,
No they did not do the IUI.  It wasn't even mentioned as an option, so I am not sure why.  
On cycle day 6 they upped my gonalF to 450, then on cycle day 8 they recommended cancelling.  And yes, they started me over from scratch.  I waited for AF (which took 38 freakin' days), then started BCP (for another 12 days).  It is a long wait, especially when you are so anxious to get the show on the road.  I must admit though, it gave me a chance physically to get back to normal and emotionally to rev up again.  Stress is a doozy on your body---taking a short break was good for me.  In fact, since I started the process my FSH went from 15.6 to 7.7 (that is probably just a coincidence, but it made me feel better!).  
I start my Lupron on Wed, until I get a bleed (~5 days), then start the Ganirelix and estradial for a week, then I begin the stim meds (GonalF 300 units TWICE per day, low dose HCG, plus continuining the Ganirelix and esradial).    
Hang in there sister.  Remember, it only takes ONE good egg!
:-) Krista

[babyalive]

Sally,

I am so sorry. That really sucks.  It'll happen!!  We will all get our bfp eventually!

[Asking4aMiracle]

reading some of these post makes it so hard to talk about my good news, i feel so bad for you wonderful woman who deserve this now. saying it will happen when he wants it to  is like pouring salt in the wound, i know all too well so saying it is pointless, on my end! i know you will all get what you deserve i wish it would happen soon!!


as for me, i took my class yesterday to learn how to give the injections, oh yay....not really excited about that, but supposedly it wont hurt. i will be taking menopur,  brevaile(sp??) and ganelix(sp??)  for my stims, and i dont remember the names of the rest of what i will be taking (im at work so its not in arms reach) but anyway, so im getting really excited, i took my last b/c pill today, i have my baseline u/s and bloodwork on the 10th and start my stims that day as well. then approximitely(sp??) 10 days later, retrieval. were planning on day 5 blast, hopefully my little embies make it 5 days and hopefully i end up with more then the transfered 2!!!! wow, i could be preggers this time next month!!

[Helen72]

Update (I hope I have everything right):

Asking4aMiracle: baseline u/s May 10th; start stims on the 10th!!!
timeisticking: retrieval today
kp1212: start Lupron May 7 (Wednesday)
sasparilla: 2ww: waiting for a BFP!!
JA: prepping for ivf
Jen7900: u/s tomorrow (May 6)
HeathJo: 14+weeks with twins
Kari: ER Tuesday (May 6)
empty: cd21 bloods Thursday
ms320: on hiatus till July
Helen and Magda: on hiatus till August
babyalive: waiting for AF (is she here yet????)

timeisticking,
how are you today???  I hope your retrieval went smoothly and you can brag about your many eggs!

Kari,
good luck tomorrow.  Hoping for all high quality embryos this time!

[Helen72]

How are you doing?  Have you started Lupron yet?  Those are really baby injections with tiny needles but some people have bad side-effects.  I had none but empty had bad insomnia and other nasty stuff.  I hope you are doing well after your trip and I am praying this is your last ivf cycle.  
Stay in touch!!!

[Helen72]

Hi-
did you take metformin and it made you really sick?  My friend Jamie is having a really hard time.  Can you asnwer her post?
http://www.medhelp.org/posts/show/510076

Also, thanks again for your support.  I talked to dh last night and we decided to work hard this summer and try ivf again in August.  Hope that our next try is more successful.  

[kp1212]

That's the spirit!  We will keep our fingers crossed from now through August!

Glad to see you back!

Krista

[sasparilla]

All I can say is WORD UP Helen!  (I Spend way too much time with aging tattoo artists that revive old phrases and think up stupid new ones)
I'm right there with ya Helen.. down, but sure as h*e*l*l* not out.  

Told Dh the bad news this morning.. he was actually a lot better than i thought.. I just told him , then  I said lets not talk about it.  I didn't cry till I read y'alls posts and messages.  But it was ag ood cry.. made me feel not so alone.  So thank you so much ladies

Remember i called and made an appt. w/ a new RE for May 15.. Hes super hard to get an appt. with (aren't all the good ones?) and they had like one hour that he wasn't busy for the next 2 months or something like that.. Well,it was quite serendipitous when I was sitting here in my home office this morning, thinking bad, sad thoughts while trying to glean the tiniest amount of pink from that stupid pee stick, when lo and behold the doctors office called and asked if I could come in this Thursday.. Well, HECK YEAH I can come in in 3 days.  I will be there in all my PMS glory.

So.. I am going to scratch and claw my way into IVF as soon as possible. Yahoo!!!  Since Im a poor responder (gosh, I just have evreything going for me), hopefully I can bypass the Lupron and go straight to antagonist protocol.

Jen.. me thinks you might have some shy follies that are hiding around various nooks and crannies inside you.  Im thinking super awesome thoughts for those little shy critters to come out and play!

[Kari15]

Oh Sally, I am so sad for you that the evil HPT was playing nasty tricks on you!  =(  Hardly seems fair, right?  But holy moly you are true inspiration as you seem to have kept some humor in this and are determined to try again!  Wishing you good luck with your appt on Thurs... so glad they could move it up for you!

Helen, thx for the g/l wishes.  I feel certain we'll see a few good quality embies this time around! (I've never felt positive on any of my prior cycles, I think I just know this one is gonna work!)  I am also glad to hear that you too are determined to stay in the game if those embies of yours don't dig in for the long haul.  You are going to make a fantastic mom, and I hope your BFP dream comes true very soon!  

Jen, sounds like we are going to have to wait another day to find out how this cycle will conclude.  My fingers are tightly crossed that at a minimum you'll be in a 2WW post IUI!  I'll be thinking of you!

Krista and Asking4aMiracle, You both are getting so close now!  Lots of positive baby thoughts coming your ways!!!!

Renell!!!  I'm so anxious to hear how things went today!  Hope you are feeling well and please let us know all about the E/R when you get a chance!

J_A, wow, what good news for you!  I sure hope DH comes around soon and gives you the support you need right now.  It is a big decision, but I think it might be a good idea to give your own eggs a fighting chance.  Donor eggs will always be there!  Good luck and you'll have our support no matter what you decide!

As for me, well I'm feeling great and excited for E/R tomorrow!  I was stoked cause yesterday my RE called and said I could go ahead and do the entire 10,000units of HCG instead of the half dose.  First try I was cancelled for over-stim, second I went ahead but did half dose, and here I am doing a FULL trigger shot and my lining looks better than it EVER has and I'm so ready for this BFP it's not even funny! =)  I'll try to post an update tomorrow after my retreival!

[kp1212]

Hey girlies!

Renell,  Can't wait to hear how ER went today!  Hope you are feeling ok, and can give us the scoop soon!

Kari, GOOD LUCK tomorrow!  Your positive vibes are contagious.  I think you are right.  This is YOUR time, and in 9 months... :-)

Jen, How are you feeling?  Eggy?  What is the next step (u/s and b/w tomorrow?)?

Sally, Can't tell you how much I appreciate your humor, even in the midst of a major bummer. I look forward to more stories of the adventures down south!  :-)  You rock on sister!!!  Can't wait to hear what your new RE says...I am a poor responder as well, but my protocol includes BCP and Lupron.  It is referred to as agonist/antagonist conversion protocol with advance priming using estradial valerate (A/ACP-E2V).  A mouthful, no doubt.  It is actually just a long name for "pay a butt load of money for a ridiculous amount of injections, get really hormonal and bloated, and maybe you will have a decent egg or two".

I start Lupron on Wednesday...who would've thought I would be looking forward to shots in my not-so-flat belly?!?

Krista

[babyalive]

Helen (and all Red Rover sisters),

No AF hasn't visited yet.  She's really laying low these days.  
More on the blasted referral.  They aren't covering ANYTHING prior to April 29th.  They will cover almost everything (meds excluded) between April 29th to Nov. 28th of this year.  Maddening since I've exhausted all my resources and won't be able to continue during the dates of the referral. I'm very, very angry about this.  I talked to my RE and he said this is VERY typical of my insurance company.  Just needed to vent.  Have had a hard day.  It's 5:30 and I'm going to bed.

[HeathJo]

Lisa--That sux. I am so very sorry. I feel your pain (or at least, my bank account does!) It's unreal how much you still have to pay for, even during pregnancy. It's all very expensive. It adds insult to injury.

[Jen7900]

Thank you SO much for all your messages, notes and posts. Going thru this craziness is so much better because of all of you. Stay tuned for tomorrow's u/s results...

Kari - GOOD LUCK TOMORROW!!!!!! I hope they get lots of amazing eggs. I will be crossing all fingers and toes for you. Sounds like all the cards are in order and the stars are lining up perfectly...oh, I'm SO excited for you!

Sally - You CRACK ME UP sister. "Word up" ~ that is awesome humor! I love that you have picked yourself back up and are ready to move forward. Your humor and positive spirit is so appreciated on this forum. Hang in there...I have no doubt IVF will be the right path for you.

Miky - Welcome Back!! How's it hangin sister? We need an update!

Krista, Lisa, Heather, Helen - thanks again for all the support. You always seem to make me smile.

Lisa - sounds like your having a nasty week...I'm praying you feel better soon and things start turning around.

XOXO

[timeisticking]

Hello my lovely ladies,

Sorry I didnt give you guys the update on my retrievel yesterday. My Re had me on strict bed rest for the the rest of yesterday. And today I feel a little pain. How long is this pain suppose to last?

As for my update!!!!!! 12 eggs was retrieved YAYYYYYY!!!!!!!! I am waiting on the phone call from my Re so he can inform me how may was ferilized and if I will have a 3 or 5 day transfer. He also informed me to drink lots of  water, Insure, v8 juice and Gatorade.

My only concern is the minor pains that I am feeling and how long will this last and is it normal?

[Helen72]

12 is a great number!  I hope they all fertilize into perfect embryos.  

Did you have the pain before the retrieval??  If so then perhaps it's just due to overstimulated ovaries since they expand to produce all those follicles.  Pain due to overstimulation can last for a very long time, through your first trimester even.  If it's just due to the surgery, it will be over with in a day or two.  I actually had no pain after retrieval and went straight to work although I did have some discomfort in the evening (I guess when the meds they gave me wore off).  It did not last very long though.  

Glad you are doing well and waiting for more happy updates!

[miky72]

Hello to All!
Helen:I started Lupron yesterday (20U) after I had a 1 hour session with my new RE (I LOVE HER!!!!!).I will keep you posted.Baseline U/S on May 15.

Jen7900:thank you for asking!!I'm doing OK excited and scared to start a new cycle!!
Its good to be back in the game!

[Asking4aMiracle]

THANK YOU SWEETY!!! i really need it!!    ~*~*Praying this is the first and LAST IVF cycle*~*~   im so excited and cant wait, cant believe i start stims in 4 days YAY!!!!!!

[timeisticking]

UPDATE!!!

Ok just recived phone call from RE's office. 12 retrieved and 9 fertilized. So I have 9 healty embies!!!!!!! yayyyyy!!!

I am going to do a 5 day transfer so Saturday is the BIG DAY.

Helen, Yea I had a little pain before the surgery but now It really feel the pain. I asked my IVF coordinator should i expect this and she said yes. She said it has to do with my ovaries tring to get back to the way they were. So I hope today is my last day of pain.

[Helen72]

Congrats!  9 is a good number.
Good luck Saturday!

[Asking4aMiracle]

YAY!!!!!! i hope this is it!!!! wow thats so exciting!!! Stick baby Stick!!!! if this works for you, i have so much faith that it will work for me as well!! we have such similar stories!! oh i cant wait for your BFP!!!!! YAY

[sasparilla]

Such exciting news from everyone!  Congrats to all you follie makers!  

Renell, you go girl!  How exciting, awesome news! Good luck!!!!!!!

Kari.. how was your retrieval?

Jen.. whats the scoop?

Miky, How long you going to be on Lupron?  

Lisa.. Do I need to come over there to make sure AF shows up? As you can see on my photo I have a fancy new hairdo and I would just love to show up in a hairdo like that at your school and go "Hi.. Im a friend of Lisa's, could you point me to her classroom because I need to talk to her about her period."

Krista.. looks like you and Miky are on the same schedule. How long for you?

Magda, Dont sit there at your computer than pretend that youre not looking at the posts anymore because I can totally see you!

Helen, You my dear are just sweet as pie and I know you and I both are going to get some really great news one of these days real soon!

I am going to my new RE's tomorrow.. so happy.. can't even tell you, especially since I was just reading my file from my Ob/Gyn's office (had my file released to myself) and found out all kinds of interesting info. that no one had told me:
I have reocurring cysts on my ovaries (I ovulate, but not all my follicles rupture).. so looks like maybe the frikkin 40 mother tucking pounds I have put on within the past 2 years may have a reason.  Would have been real nice if someone would have mentioned it to me.. oh say between IUI 1 and 5??????
Im trying hard not to be mad even though theres all kinds of stuff in my file that points to fetility problems (one tube wrapped around my ovary.. would explain my severe ovulation pain).. Sheesh.. Well, I am certainly not one to dwell (excpet when it comes to ex boyfriends cheating) , so thank goodness I am moving onward and upward.

Now all I have to do is shell out tens of thousands of dollars, make sure my hormones are exactly right, inject myself with thousands of dollars worth of painful hormones, produce multiple follicles on the exact right day, have them fertalized properly, have them put back into my body, them BAM, Im pregnant.  Sounds so easy.. haahaa.  I so want an invite to that party!

All cynasism , I am super excited and chomping at the bit to get going.  Yeeeehaw!

[sasparilla]

PS.  I really don't want to sound like a complainer.  There are some women on this board that bug the living S*HIT out of me because all they do is complain and whine, so please keep in mind the above post is just me ranting for a few minutes.  I really dont blame anyone but myself for not going to an RE sooner and all the REs I have had consultations with seem to be very intelligent capable Doctors.

BTW.. I know you all love my new hair. It's pretty frikkin awesome.

[Helen72]

Sally,
I am having my haircut tomorrow (it's been ages since I had my last haircut due to end of semester rush) and I will bring your new profile pic and ask for the same one.  My students will be sooo impressed!  It will also make me taller (I am a shorty).

Don't apologize for complaining.  This site is for advice and venting.  We all need to vent our frustration some time.  As for your weight, look on the bright side: it will make ivf injections so much easier!  I have a skinny butt and my *** shots really hurt!!!

[Kari15]

Renell, Congrats!  So happy for you and your healthy nine embies!!!!

On my way home from E/R now.  They got 36 eggs.  Couldn't believe it.  Praying hard some will produce good quality embies this time.  RE is concerned with OHSS and mentioned freezing all and transfer later but I said no way.  He is gonna talk to us tonite and I plan on holding my ground.  Hopefully he'll be able to tell us then how many eggs were mature.Thx for all the good luck wishes.  Heading to bed as soon as I get home.

[Jen7900]

Renell - Great news!! YAY!!!! Grow babies grow!!

Kari - You are truly a follie machine!! Keep your ground, consider what is best for you and babies and push forward. I learned today that you have to be assertive with the docs or things may never go your way. Good luck!!

Sally - that hair ROCKS sister!! I may try it for my first day back teaching (in about 2 hours) and see what the response is. I'm so glad you are getting into the RE tomorrow. I know you will feel much less anxious after the appt. Gosh, your rant makes getting pg look so easy...I wish it were that way! Let us know what happens tomorrow. Oh, and no need to focus on the past...just look forward...i know there is a light there!

Lisa - thank you for the ongoing support via notes and PM's...I love you girlfriend.

Here's the update:
8 measurable follies all between 10-12mm. E2 is only 300 (ugh) and should be close to 2000 by now. RE called and suggested we cut our losses. I was pissed and said very simply "no". At which point I told him we will push thru and get more aggressive and he said "ok"! So, we are switching me to Follistim since we know it worked wonders for me before for the next 3 days and will re-eval on Friday. Re said I could stay on the meds for the next 4-5 days and we will see. He will only do IVF if we have 10-15 follies at ~20mm. If we don't by then, we agree to cancel the cycle. But I just KNOW my Follistim will come thru for me...it always does.

It's now, perhaps more than ever before, that I need some extra prayers and positive energy sent my way. The u/s tech this morning said to me "have a little faith [I am not religious], it's free". It made me laugh, but she was right. So I'm signing up for my FREE faith; G-D will be getting lots of texts, voicemails and emails from me in the next few days. I am usually pretty optimistic about things but this whole thing is really throwing me for a loop. Just remind me to keep my head up and stay positive...I may fall off the happy wagon at times!

Love you all...thank you again for all the support. I don't know what i would do without you guys.

XOXO
jen

[Helen72]

Jen,

I also started out with 8 follicles but ended up with 16 eggs, 15 of which were mature.  Note that often times not all follicles are visible on u/s.  I hope that switch to follistim works wonders for you.  

Good luck!!

[HeathJo]

Jen--Just know I am thinking about and praying for you, and SS BD to you!

[babyalive]

Sally,

Love the hair!  You crack me up. I do think AF needs you and Jen to come down here and kick some arse and get her to do her job.  She certainly isn't listening to me these days. Good luck at the RE's today!!  Thanks for taking over the cheerleading role.  I've sort of hung up my pom poms for Magda's shrine and haven't gotten the gumption back to retrieve them yet.

Jen,

I am so sorry your follies are not cooperating like they should.  Perhaps they are just shy and need a little more time and coaxing.  I'm glad Follistim has been a good friend to you.  Call on the ole' dog again and she'll come through!

Helen,

This is to address your comment about the student on your other post.  I missed that comment when I read it the first time.  I just have to say "What a B*itch with a capital B.  I want to come over there and punch that student right in the face!   I would tell her since she relieved herself of the "problem", no leniency whatsovever!

Heather,

How goes it?  It seems you are feeling better theses days.

Kari,

OMG.  36 eggs!!!  You now have been crowned the official Queen of the Follies!!  

I had a dream last night I wasn't getting AF because I was pregnant.  I've had two urine pg tests, but not a beta. In my dream the urine tests weren't accurate.  It was nice to be pregnant until I woke up.

Cd 47, or 48 I've lost count.  Still not AF.  Took my last Provera yesterday.  Here's to agent AF coming out of hiding!!!  Come out come out wherever you are!

[miky72]

Sally:
I love the hair too!!!!AMAZING!!! ;-).
I will be on Lupron 20U until my period comes and then swithc to 10 U until I'll have to give myself HCG shot.Basically the whole cycle I will be on Lupron (and also until tomorrow on BC pills).
I'm also going to a new RE and I have to say that it is sooooo different..such a better approach and a lot less stressful (for now..)

Jen:As Helen said a lot of times you cannot see the follies on the U/S (it happened to me and to her too).I'll pray that goo Follistin will do the magic!!!

Lisa:I really hope AF shows up SOON.

Helen:How are you?are you feeling less sore?Are you doing progesterone shots??I HATE them!!!

Now off to work,
hugs to all,
Miky

[kp1212]

In a show of solidarity, I, too, have changed my hair style (see profile photo).  

I do hope you like my new look!  :-)

[kp1212]

Hi all,

Lisa, I am a secret FBI agent and will locate AF for you.  She will be sorry that she tangled with me as I am a bad A**!  

Sally,  I can't wait to hear what the RE has to say.  That is crazy about all that stuff in your file and NOONE told you.  Why would they, I suppose?  After all, you are just the PATIENT!  ugh.  

Miky, Sounds like we are similar schedules.  I start Lupron tonight (yippee!).  I am only on 10 units, overlapping a couple of days with BC pills, then the ganirelix, gonalF, and hcg.  May we both be lucky this cycle!  

Jen, Been thinking about you and your follies.  I think the little suckers are going to suprise you!  

Renell, So excited about your 9 embies...Will you get an update today about how they are doing?

Kari, Hope you are feeling OK after your ER.  Gee whiz, 36 eggs?!?  Keep us posted how the little embies did over night!  

Helen, Hope you are feeling better...been thinking about you!  What did you ever do about your wonderful student?

Heather, You still got those wonderful shingles?  Isn't it glorious?  :-)

Hope you all are having a dee-lish day!
Krista

[sasparilla]

Krista, you pretty much rock my world!

But I do think my new hair has made it hard to concentrate.  I thought my appt. was today, but it's really tomorrow.  (Way to jump the gun there, Sal)
I think AF is here (or something?), weird.. shes like 3 days early and Im on progesterone.  Well, maybe I can get some blood work done this week.
How the hell is everybody? I'm surprisingly in a good mood today.. I think I shall ride my bike and tan. (I work from home and I'm lazy, so sue me)
Helen... please share photos of youre new 'do when you get back!

[miky72]

WOW!!!! We are really almost on the same schedule!!!!
My new RE told me that she thinks the retrieval will be around the 27..what about you?
I'm so happy to have an IVF buddy :-)))
I will be on Lupron the whole time and then add Follistim and Menopur.
Is this your first IVF?
I had already 2 fresj cycles and one frozen.
Good luck to us!!!!!!
Miky

[kp1212]

My retrieval (HOPEFULLY) will be late May, too.  My protocol is pretty aggressive, and a little longer than usual.  After 4-5 days of Lupron, I start on "phase 1" of my meds (Ganirelix and estrace) for 7 days, then "phase 2" with the stim meds (gonalF 2x/day and HCG) for 8-12 days.
This is my second cycle.  The first one was cancelled about 6 weeks ago due to poor response/limited follicle growth.  I am really praying that my little follies/eggies are on their best behavior this month!
Yes, Good Luck to us!
Krista
p.s.  I hope my baby doesn't have hair like me... :-)

[kp1212]

Appt. is tomorrow?  You dope!!!

There is a bird trying to use my hair as a nest...must go deal with this problem...

[miky72]

Sound good!
We'll be (HOPEFULLY) on the same page.
I''l keep you posted you do the same ;-)
Miky

[Jen7900]

Sally and Krista - you are a match made in heaven! I feel like I need a funky doo!!

Thank you for all the support (again). I'm super nervous about Friday and am just hoping the ovaries are hard at work making some quality follies. Been spending a decent amount of time talking to the big man upstairs on this one. And I'm going to my knitting club today (I havent been in weeks cuz of my test) to update the ole ladies...they love to pray too! :) Hey, I'll take what I can get!!

Off to the proctologist (the butt doc) and knitting!!!

[Kari15]

Jen, Good for you girl, putting your foot down and getting RE to agree to add back the follistim.  Crossing my fingers that come Friday we'll be getting a very good update from you!

Krista, Miky - I'm so glad you guys have found your IVF buddies... it's always so much better when you are cycling with someone, esp in an IVF cycle!  (Krista, loving the new hair-do on you!)

Lisa, Now that you've taken that last provera I'm sure AF will be paying you a visit in the next week.  It's been long enough... that witch better not make you wait any longer!

Sally, you're prob out tanning on your bike ride =)  Guess you guys are getting some nice weather out there on the east coast... that prob helps keep you in a good mood!  Will be looking forward to your update after tomorrow's appt!

Well I'm STILL waiting for my RE to call with my fertilization report.  But I did find out last nite that 23 of the 36 eggs were mature and so they did ICSI on all 23.  Can't get too excited about the #'s cause this is how things went last time (30 eggs, 19 mature, 17 fertilized and NOT A SINGLE quality embryo on all three transfer attempts).  I do know that my transfer will be a day-3, this Friday (unless RE refuses b/c of risk of OHSS), and praying we have a few good quality ones this time.  Now I'm getting nervous about my fertilization since we haven't heard from the RE office... they are usually quick to call with results!!!!!!

[Asking4aMiracle]

ok enough butt kissing ;)   ....   jk, anyway, i have a question, since im still just learning all the abbreveations(sp??) and all the lingo and all the jazz period, my question is....is the first day of your period day one of your cycle? (i.e. today AF stopped by so today is my CD1 right?)

[timeisticking]

For some reason I dont think I am recovering well from my retrieval. I have brownish reddish spotting for the last two days. And I also feel crampish and pain in my lower stomach. Is this normal or not?????????/

I really need to hear something before i start to panic


Renell

[Helen72]

Renell,

I did not have any cramping or spotting but they did tell me before my discharge that it's normal to have some spotting and cramping.   I don't think you should panic.  During retrieval they basically stick a very long needle through you to suck the eggs out so I was actually surprised I did not have some spotting from that.  

I hope you are feeling better soon.

((Hug))

[kp1212]

My understanding is that CD 1 is the first day of full flow (not just a little spotting).

Oh joy oh joy...AF!  

[kp1212]

Kari, I'm soooo hoping for a good report for you!  Fingers and toes are crossed!

Renell, Sorry, no idea on your issues right now...never made it to retrieval.

Jen, If you want my body and you think I'm sexy come on baby let me know.  Hardy har har har!  (You simply MUST get a new do--it does wonders for your spirits.  How about a nice blond mohawk?)

[Asking4aMiracle]

thank you for the info, i was never sure.... i use to be niagra falls for like 4 days, 2 middle days the worst, now, since we have started tests and treatments and been put on b/c, im 5-7 days and for the most part, really light, heavy at times, but usually only have to wear something for a couple days, kinda nice, as nice as AF can be i guess, just SO different and not use to it.

i can actually say though that i am glad to see her but ill be much happier to see her leave! just means im finally in this cycle....start stims saturday! Woohoo!! been waiting for May for what seems like eternity!

[Kari15]

Renell, I was told yesterday after E/R that I may want to wear a panty liner as there could be some spotting.  I also spoke to my RE and nurse today and they specifically asked me if I had any cramping.  They are trying to assess whether I'll get OHSS so that was just one of many questions... they wanted to know if I was able to sleep, if I was feverish, did I gain weight overnite, how bad was my bloat, etc.  If you are worried, it never hurts to phone your doctor.  They are paid a lot of money for the procedures we endure and they should reassure you... you deserve it.  Hope you start to feel better!

Well I got the call and 21 of the 23 mature eggs fertilized.  I am scheduled for a day-3 transfer on Fri, but they are going to do an u/s first to look at my ovaries and again interrogate me to assess risk of OHSS... if they are concerned at all they won't proceed, but freeze all the embryos probably at that point.  Praying hard I stay healthy!

[miky72]

WOW!!
21 is great!
I'm sure you'll have nice embies this time..I have a good feeling about you!!!
SSSSSBD!!

[kp1212]

Way to go Kari!!!!  That's great news.  21 is a lucky number!  Woo Hoo!!!!  :-)

[sasparilla]

Hi Ladies,


Kari.. good luck on your transfer today.. baby dustings!!!!

Helen.. You stop it right now with the negativity..we all are thinking good thoughts for you!

Renell.. Hope you're feeling better today!  :)

Lisa... Has AF shown up yet?  Strange goings on with her being away so long. She's a dirty lowdown B*I*T*CH anyway.


Krista.. How was your first shot? Do you take it in the butt? LOLOLOL... I am so juvenile.. Do you take it in the butt.. get it?????  I am a 12 year old boy.  Ha ha
BTW.. Miky, do you also take it in the butt? OMG, someone stop me!

Jen.. How are your follies coming along?  What have the doctors been saying?

Heath.... Are you showing yet?  Pictures of baby bump would be sweet.  

I am off to me new RE's office.. super excited, armed with all kinds of "ms. know-it-all" information.  Hope he won't feel like I'm steam rolling him, but I do my research, dammit.
Since AF decided to show up like 3 days early, I might to and get Day 3 B/W done today..
I'll post later when I get back from RE.. man, I wish I could start to stim today.. maybe if I bring him $10k in cash like some sort of gangster and say "Here.. make it happen", Like im putting a hit out on my eggs.. he could start today!  LOL

[miky72]

Good luck with your new RE!!
Let us know how it goes.
Miky

[Helen72]

Do you really have a bruise after your lupron shot?  That should not be happening.  You will be doing many lupron injections and you will run out of places to inject.  You must be doing it wrong.  Are you doing it at the 90 degree angle???  Are you doing it at the right spot?  I found it easier to inject myself when I was standing (vs. laying down).   You should basically not even feel the needle going in.

Kari,
did they tell you whether you will have a day 3 or day 5 transfer?  My clinic schedules day 3 for everyone but then on day 3 they may decide to do a day 5.  I recall that your clinic had a similar procedure.  If you transfer is today, I hope it goes really well for you.  

[Kari15]

Sally, oh my you are hilarious.  Just love your humour!!!  Wishing you lots of luck with your new appt today!  Looking forward to the update and I hope you get to start stimming very soon!

Helen, my RE prefers day-3 transfers but of course will consider day-5.  Since I've had serious quality issues I elected to do a day-3 (to ensure we have something to transfer) and then freeze any which make it to blast.  The only prob is my RE said OHSS tends to hit hardest 4-5 days post retrieval so I think he may push me for a day-5 to allow for better eval of OHSS.  Tomorrow is day-3 and I am on the books for a transfer.... I think the odds of it actually happening tomorrow is no better than 50%.  I don't feel horrible, but I don't feel okay either. My RE is super conservative and I know he's gonna take the safest approach which could mean no fresh transfer at all. Will know more tomorrow!

[timeisticking]

I have to start off  my saying Sally I LOVE YOUR HUMOR GIRL!!!!!!! When I read your post I couldnt stop laughing, and trust me I really tried to stop becuase my belly is swore and it hurts to laugh really hard .....LOL!!!!! Good look on your appt with your new RE, I know all will go well!

Thank you ladies for all of your feedback on the pains I was feeling. Actually today I feel better, it seems that I feel better and better each day. I also called my Re's office and they informed me of the same thing.

Havent heard anything else about my little embies and how they are doing. Are they suppose to call you and give you updated information? Or do they do nt call if nothing has changed?

[sasparilla]

OMG OMG OMG.. I am in love with my RE.  He rocks my socks like no man has!! (hes not cute, just a really righteous dude).Ok.. where in the h*Ell do I begin?

Ok.. to get it out of the way:
Some weird weird stuff came out of me today.. its CD 2 1/2 (I started at night) and
and Im not upset about it, considering... but it looks like that positive I had on CD 11 was really a true pos.  I am currently in the midst of "expelling my chemical".
Strangley, im not upset.. quite the opposite.. i can get pregnant!!!!!! woo hoooooo.

Ok.. Next.. I am going to be doing the antagonist protocol, and I go in for my "mock transfer" in exactly 7 days!
I start my stims in about about a month.  No Lupron, no BC pills.  He asked me what I wanted to do??? How cool is that? I told him and he was like.. "I totally agree, its nice to have someone come in who not only knows exactly what she wants, but also for it to be right." How Frikkin awesome is that??!!  He told me I was going to be taking like a ton of Gonal-f.. and whan I said"ooh.. heard that was expensive" He sid.. "Ok.. what about Follistim?"  
I mean, can t get any better?  I dare say, I THINK NOT MY DEARS!

And its day 3, hes did a U/S and I have 9 little follies just lurking around, which he is totally happy with.  Only bad things:  Doesnt think Im going to produce tons of eggs like you rockstar girls, so I may not produce enough to freeze, but he thinks my age is good, etc... and I have a couple of small fibroids but theyre not in the "baby zone"

OMG.. So excited here at Casa Sally. Next week I get my meds, mock transfer and she shows me how to use my injectable things.

Then next cycle.. its IVF time Baby!!!

[Kari15]

Sally that is FABULOUS news!!!  Your new RE really does sounds like a rockstar!!!  I'm so glad he didn't stall and make you go thru numerous tests and procedures that you've probably already endured!  I'm so happy for you... I have a good feeling that only positive things (and positive betas!) await after this upcoming IVF!  Very nice!!!

Renell, I'm so glad to hear that you are feeling better... I was thinking of you today.  I think that it's kinda split whether IVF patients get updates on the quality of their embies.  Personally my RE has never given me an udpate after the fert report... I have to wait till transfer day.  But I'd take it as a good sign that they didn't call you in for a day-3 transfer... your embies must be doing well.  You are scheduled for Saturday right?

Lisa, any sign of AF yet for you???

Jen, I think you have your appt tomorrow to find out if adding that follistim has kicked your follies in gear.  Good luck and hope we hear some good news from you!!!

[miky72]

Sally,
this is great news!!!!!
I'm also in love with my new RE so I kow how you feel!!
About the shots....THEY ARE IN THE BELLY!!!! hahahahahahaha
you made me laugh!!!!!!
Super sticky baby dust to all of us!!

[kp1212]

Dear dear dear Sally....hhhhhhhhaaaaaarrrrrrdddddddyyyy har har har!!!  Actually, I was told when you do your first round of IVF the best place to get all of your shots was up the bootie.  So, go for it and let me know how that goes!  [ ;-) ]

Also, Sally... THAT IS REALLY EXCITING ABOUT THE RE!!!  I can't wait to hear you moaning about morning sickness in a couple of months.  I'll be like..." shut up Sal, cuz you took your shots in the butt, so what did you expect?"  Oh, by the way, thanks for the update from what is exiting your va-jay-jay.  It's been too long since we got an update.

Helen, ok, maybe it was a BIT of an exxageration.  The bruise is itty bitty, but I feel cool saying I have a bruise.  Trust me, there are PLENTY of spots on my belly to stick a needle.  No chance of running out of space in the next century...

Renell, Glad you are feeling better!  

Jen, Any folly progress???  US on Friday?

[sasparilla]

I re-read my ealier post and I wrote down my antral follicle count wrong.  There were 9 one one side and 5 on the other side, total of 14.
I'm a happy spaz.

[Jen7900]

You guys crack me up!

Sal - HOLY CR*AP!!!! I live to love your humor as well! Your RE sounds fab and a great plan is in the works! YAY!!!!!! Now its only a matter of time til your taking those suckers in the arse!

U/s is tomorrow morning. Cross your fingers for good things...I will update when i get back with some news. May be in the afternoon cuz that's when they call!

XOXO

[Asking4aMiracle]

WOOHOO I START MY CYCLE TOMORROW!!!!!!!!   OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IM SO EXCITED!!!!!!! not so thrilled about giving myself shots, but i lot more comfy then i was before i didnt know how to! I  WILL  be pregnant this time next month OMG!!!!!!!!!! *whew* ok needed to shout out!!! thanks!

[sasparilla]

How exciting Asking/Miracle!  I'm sure you'll be an old pro at the shots in no time.  Keep us all updated on how your follies are gettin along!

Miky, I think this is still our forum here, so come on in (didn't really get the red carpet rolled out on the other thread for us, did we?)

How is everyone else that is still here doing?

Jen.. What's the update, my dear?

[Jen7900]

*UPDATE*

GREAT news!! I had 8 follies on the left (all over 14mm and biggest was 20mm) and 6 on the left! My E2 was 1130 today and the RE agreed that we should GO AHEAD with the cycle!!!!! As of now I am on one more day of Follistim and Lupron and retrieval is tentatively scheduled for Monday. I was SO relieved and happy that I have a chance. RE said its' not the best cycle and that he'd hoped for more follies since I'm only 29 yrs old. I reminded him that perhaps my body is not a "typical" 29-yr-old since I've had lots of med probs and surgery.

Anyway, thank you again SO much for all your support and notes. It made this whole week much more tolerable. I go for another u/s and b/w tomorrow just to make sure and probably trigger tomorrow nite. Will keep you posted when I know more.

XOXO
jen

[miky72]

Jen:WOW!!!!!!!! This is great! 14 follicles is a great number ..its actually what my new RE call "the perfect number" between 14 and 16-not too many and not too few!
I think you are in a great place now to get your BFP!!Relax this weekend Monday is a big day!!!

Sally:To tell you the truth I was a little surprised by the answer we got there..But I do not care..This thread is fantastic and I feel welcome here so we will continue to post here!!!!
How are you doing?I'm on Lupron day 6 waiting for AF (after 25 days of BCP).

Asking4aMiracle: giving the shots is really easy!! we have only few days difference in our cycles..what kind of meds are you taking???

Girls keep us posted on how you are doing!!!


  

,

[sasparilla]

Jen, No YOU da bomb!  I just knew there were some more of those gals lurking around somewhere!  I am so happy for you.. you go girl!!!!   14 is an awesome number!  I should only hope yo be so lucky!  Those other 6 popped up and were like Psych!  Which is totally ironic since you teach Psych!  (I'm thinking we have the same humor since we both married yankee carpet-baggers from the same area.. you start to pick up on it)

Miky, How long are you on Luron for?  When are you stimming and for how long?  Also, whats your stim drug of choice?  Angel Dust?  Meth? Little crank?  I am so KIDDING??!! Is Angel Dust still even a drug that's around these days?  I'm so old, these tattoos don't even make me cool anymore (but maybe having a tattoo artist husband does?)
My DH hosts a tattoo convention every year and he is there this weekend being a stressed out freak making sure it goes smoothly and Im at home wearing my oldest sweats, eating pringles and watching TiVo'd Oprahs.  My menagere of animals is bugging the cr**ap out of me and Ive left coffee mugs everywhere.... now the only thing I have to do is clean everything up (including myself) before he gets home Sun. so I can keep up the illusion of a super clean, always on top of things, Sally.


Wheres Renell, Katie and Kari??? I still hope Helen, Lisa and Magda will still join us on this thread.
Does anyone want to start a new thread?  For the Alpha Gamma Preggers?  This one is getting long.

[miky72]

Hey Sally,
I'm in the same situation as you..DH is away for the weekend for business so I'm all alone in front of the TV in my PJ and glasses (no contact lenses today!!!!!!)hahahaha tomorrow morning I'll clean everything and prepare a nice dinner ;-)

I'm on LUpron basically the whole cycle ,it will only go down to 10U after I get my period.For stim I'll do Follistim and Menopur (still don't know the dose ..waiting for May 15 baseline BW and U/S).
By the way...YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!
have a great weekend!!

[Kari15]

Jen that is just about the best news ever!!!  I am SOOOOOOOO happy you pushed to move forward and get that follistim added back to your protocol!  There is nothing wrong with a slow and steady stim cycle... many countries prefer to take things slowly and they get fantastic outcomes!  CONGRATS!  Can't wait to hear that you are taking your trigger!

Miky, stims are creeping so close for you!  Hope AF shows and that baseline u/s appt will be here before you know it!

Sally, have I mentioned before that you are hysterical???  thanks for all the good laughs =)

Well I did have my transfer yesterday.  My worst fear was basically confirmed... 21 embryos and once again not a single one was of good quality.  We did have 5 B's (the rest of course were C's), and my RE transferred three of the 8-celled B's.  I've gone into that dam procedure room four times and never once got good news about my embies... meanwhile we get to overhear some obnoxious man talking WAY too loud to his wife in the area across from us about the 4 pefect embies they got in their lot of 9.  Thought I might vomit on them.  (wow that sounded really bitter didn't it? Sorry,,, it just made me cry as I sat on my little bed waiting for transfer)  Anyway... B's aren't so bad I guess and it means I've still got a chance here.  I'm gonna try and remain hopeful...  I will not stim ever again for IVF so I really hope this works.  Beta on 5/21.

[sasparilla]

Ackk.. I wrote Katie and not Krista.. I should be lynched!  Too many derned K's.. My memory stinks.  it must be my old eggs..not age..

Kari, I'm sorry about that jerk next to you yellin.. what a **** bucket!  And to be cryin on that table.. man, I know that feeling, been there and its not a nice place to be.  And ya know.. the way I see it is we are sooooo allowed to be bitter at times.  This is such a b ig deal to us, so F-em!

Why don't all y'all come over and be fat with me?  I have this big house all to myself (and the furballs) and I have a big screen TV and one of those huge sectional couches that about 10 people can fit on (way too big for the room, but who cares?)  I will call for pizza and massive amounts of ice cream and brownies.  Maybe (for those of us that can partake) we shall drink some libations then prank phone call women from the internet that have a whole litter of kids.  Say something like " I saw little Johnny with his pants down at the park and Im gonna call the police on yer pervert son!"

Y'all know Im bored when Im constantly posting.. I can only watch so much Oprah before my brain melts.

[miky72]

Kari,I'm so sorry for the stupid guy...haaaaa I hate those people..this is not a game of "who has it bigger" but I guess men like that remain like that....HATE THEM!!!!!!!!

B's are actually pretty good and 8 cell is awesome!! I really think this time you are in a good position!I will be thinking of you and sending positive vibes ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Sally,
you made me laugh so hard I thought i was going to be sick!!! ;-)
Did you start stim meds already?You should be CD4  right?
Keep me posted!

[Asking4aMiracle]

i hope so since i got the official green light! here we go!! im starting bravelle and menopur today. i have ganirelix, chorionic gonad (HCG), vivelle-dot (patch), prometrium (pills, suppository, and oil), estradiol,  and doxycycline. thats ALL of my meds i will be taking. thats so odd to me that the only way at this point to get pregnant is to take all these meds but yet the sl*t walking down 1st street only had to lay down. sorry just needed to vent a little. anyway im so excited!!

[miky72]

From the meds I understand you are doing an Antagonist cycle.
This is good since is the easiest one and the shortest one.
You'll see is much easier than you think!!!
You are soooooo young that your chance of getting pregnant at the first try are very very high!!!!!
keep us posted and SSBD!
Miky

[Jackson_Angel]

Hi girls ~ been away for awhile ~ got AF on Thurs 5/1, then it went away 3 days later ~ and now I'm spotting yesterday & today..??..~what the heck ~ we BD'd on day 8, 10 & 11 (this Morning) ~ but why would I be getting my AF back AGAIN..??..~unless there's something else going on..??..any ideas..??..

[Helen72]

Jen,
14 follies is great! I am so happy you are able to proceed!

Kari,
8-cell embryos is great news.  I think you have a great chance.  Any of the leftover embryos went to blasts?  My fingers are crossed for your bfp.

Sally,
I already asked you this but are you trying this cycle naturally or just waiting for ivf cycle to start?  Since you are not doing b/c I thought you may give one last try.

I am still in FL, stuck in Disney nightmare.  Will be back tonight, beta tomorrow.  

[Asking4aMiracle]

i didnt know there were different types of cycles. would you mind explaining them to me (if there aren't a lot) my RE told me that i have about a 70% chance of one, and a 30% chance of two when its all over so, i keep praying this is it!!! were so far beyond ready!  

[kp1212]

Hi all,

Been out of commission for a couple of days.  Had to attend my hubby's oldest daughter's college graduation yesterday.  It was a real treat, seeing the ex-wife (I fondly refer to as Gilda, also the name of my old cyst), remarking how WONDERFUL her children are, etc.  Gross.  I always expect flying monkeys to be circling her head when she's in the room.  A real piece of work.

Sally, I would LOVE to come over and gorge on brownies and ice cream.  I truly think a good brownie is one of the best inventions in the world.  Right up there with electricity, automobiles and the telephone.  Love love love brownies!

Kari, Been thinking about you this weekend.  Sorry for your disappointment, but stay positive...you never know!  It only takes one...

Jen, Great news!!!  So glad for you.  Looking forward to your BFP!

Helen, Disney is a tough place when you are trying to have babies, and worse because there isn't a DROP of alcohol in the park.  UGH!  I feel your pain.

Today is the fifth day of Lupron for me...will start Ganirelix soon, and then on to stims!  

Here is my wish for all of you...may this time next year we all have little babies on Mother's Day!  Keep the faith girls!

:-) Krista

[kp1212]

starting a new thread ladies...

see you there!

Krista