FET transfer

[mhv]

I have a question.   Here is my senario.  I started the IVF process last May with donor eggs.  They retrieved 23 eggs and 19 of them fertilized with icsi.  After the retrevial, we were unable to do the IVF because my uterus did not thicken up.  They froze all of the embryo's in the pro nuclear stage.  My question is, my RE office does a FET 24 hrs after the embryos are thawed.  I succeded with my first FET, 2 ~4cell embryos were transfered.  I ended up m/cing because of uterus problems.  Anyway, we just did another FET this morning.... 1~4 cell 2~2 cell embryo's.  Is it normal for an RE to do a 3 day transfer with 4 and 2 cell embryos?  They graded them at b+ with little fragmentation.  I am just confused as to why they transfer so soon after thaw?  I have had a couple of people comment on this and it just started me thinking.

Thank You,
Melissa

[amzj]

Hi Guys

I went for the IVF. 7 Egg retervial was on 4-MAR-2010. Only 2 ET transfer(Blastocyst) on day 5 Dt.9-MAR-2010. First blood test was on 18-MAR-2010 it came with low HCG level 17. Re-tested on 20-MAR-2010 HCG level was 58. Then re-tested 29-MAR-2010. HCG level is only 163. Dr advised to stop the progesterone 31-MAR-2010. After stoping I should be AF anytime. No bleeding no cramping at all. PLEASE HELP IF ANYBODY have answer.

Thanks

[mhv]

Wow, thanks for the info.  I just didn't understand why we kept transferring 2 and 4 cell embryos and everyone else seems to be transferring 8 or more cell ones.  
I do believe : )   Congrats on your triplets : )  You give me faith!

[Elaine Brown, MD]

Hi!
There are different philosophies on the subject.  In the past day 3 transfers were almost always done, mostly because we had not developed artificial media that allowed embryos to survive longer then that.  Some feel that the embryos have the best chance of survival if they are in the most natural environment.  The argument for blast transfer is that if the embryos don't survive to the blast stage, there is no reason to implant them. Also, there is a lower risk of higher order multiples if one blast is transferred versus more than one earlier stage embryo.
In nature, of course, the embryo is in the woman's body 100% of the time.  In my case, I did a day three transfer of 3 embryos and got triplets.
I don't know if that is what you want, but I wish you the best success!
Dr B

[mhv]

We've been trying on and off for 7 1/2 yrs.  We've been doing this IVF/FET thing for almost a year.  Did first transfer last july, m/c  2nd one in Feb BFN, and this one.  I am praying like crazy that it works!!!!  We are using Frozen donor eggs... another reason I can't figure out why they are only 2/4 cell... anyway.... enough of that!
thank you for the support! I really need it!  I am going crazy!  although, the 2ww hasn't been to bad thus far.  Working is helping to take my mind of things today.  I think I'm just praying for the best but bracing for the worst... just in case.  

You take care of those lil small beans growing inside of you : )  You are truly blessed!  Amazing

[Ready_2_be]

My uterus was 8.5 and I was told that is very good! So I think your lining is definitely READY!!!

I understand tired we have been married for 18 years and have been ttc for 13 years! So technically this was really my fourth cycle of ivf. Three cycles done 11 years years ago which were really a joke because the RE's back then did not have very much success with anyone. Now the success rates are much much better.
My RE this time around thought I was really laid back. I was so nervous that I didn't want to mentally get into it...i pretended that I was just going on routine dr visits. I would lay on the table and meditate or fall asleep.

You are going to get pregnant this cycle! And you are going to stay pregnant for 9 months!!!!
Renee

[mhv]

Thank you Renee!  
that's what I keep thinking... I was able to get prenant the first time.... Why wouldn't it work this time?  right?  It was with 2~ 4 cell embies.

4 days before the transfer, My uterus lining was 8.5.  Is that good?  He seems really pleased... It's was actually the highest it's been since I started this whole process (long story including 1 d&c)
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I think I understand the grading part a little... buy why My RE is only transferring 2 or 4 cell embryos is what I am questioning.  

I do have a good feeling about this cycle!  I am just soooo tired... as we all are : )  I wanna be BFP Like you!  

Melissa

[Ready_2_be]

Hi Melissa:
I wish you a pregnant and 9month outcome on your transfer you have a really good track record since you had gotten pregnant. What did your RE give you to thicken your uterus lining?

I am really at a loss when it comes to embryo grading info, I wish I knew more.

Please keep your head up during the 2ww. Your feeling of contentness at the transfer was a realy great sign!

Renee

[mhv]

Thanks!  I am so frusterated by this whole proccess, but since Friday (my transfer) I have done some research and found another clinic that is close in proximity to where I am going now, and if this one I did on Friday isn't successful, I think I'm going to check them out.  I hate to think that way 3 days after a transfer....but I think I need to be on the ball just in case.  Again, this is so frusterating.  You want to believe in and trust your doc.  But, having said that, and working for a Doctor myself, I think sometimes it's good to get a second opinion.
Thanks again for you input!  

[Aurangina]

From what I understand they embriologist and dr decide on when it is best to do the transfer.  I had mine done yesterday which was a day 5 but it is not uncommon for places to do day 3 transfers.  As the embryo sits in the lab it can start to degrade and the best place for it to be is in your uterus.  I really am not sure about Frosties as this is my first go round.  I did not even have any left to freeze.  I had 5 eggs retrieved , 4 fertilized, 2 made it to day 5 and that is what they used.  The office had to call me once they made the decision on which day the transfer was going to be done.  Good luck to you!

[mhv]

I just read an article that is way against 3 day transfers, and now I am starting to feel dupped by my RE.  I realize it worked the first time, but am starting to think maybe I'm going to the wrong RE?