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507875 tn?1423160261
Hello all -

Magda, GL on the stims. I pray that you have a successful cycle.

Lisa/Kele/Miky - GL on your retrieval...get lots of rest to prepare for the nesting of your little ones!

Amberlee - Thanks for the well wishes, we love you too and are overjoyed that you are expecting...I am touching and agreeing that we will all have BFPs soon!!!

Krista - I am praying that your new protocol will work out for you. ..By the way..I only charge $19.99 per hour for my services...LOL

Sally - Hope your headaches go away soon.. I was always told I had a nurturing spirit...I guess it has spilled over to the internet now!!!

To everyone else! Keep the faith...IT WILL HAPPEN!!!
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186627 tn?1257877774
Magda...CONGRATS!!!
I'm so excited for you!!!
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Amberlee, it was sweet of you to include me when I really only came back to the forum recently.  Thank you.

Good luck on Saturday Lisa.  And don't worry about the cramping.  That's perfectly normal by this stage.

As for me, Sally... HERE I COME... b/w was all good and I start stimming tonight!!
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276562 tn?1220882024
Hope all is well.
Sally- sorry about those headaches.  I feel your pain.  I have gotten them forever surprisingly not lately.  
Amberlee- Congrats on you BFP!
Krista- Good luck!  Sounds like you're on the right path.
Juana, Miky, and Magda-  Good luck with everything!

For me I am going to trigger tonight and go in for retrieval on Saturday.  I am nervous because I have some cm and feeling a little crampy...I hope I am not ovulating.  I doubt it since I am taking Ganerelix to stop ovulation from happening.  When I went for my us this morning I had like 25 follicles so I'm hoping that Saturday will be successful!  
Lisa
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i feel so weird now being on this side! knowing that im going to have a baby but knowing i was just where you all are just a few weeks back, its so crazy!! Thank you all for your congratulations, and i will keep praying for all of you, Sally, Miky, Krista, Magda, Kele, Juana, Jen, JA, i love you all so much for all your support!!  and i cannot wait to keep the BFPs rolling throughout the summer!! (its going to happen to each and everyone of you this summer!!) and to all of you other pregos, Heather, Helen,  Kari, Renell, ill keep praying for your little angels to stick and rest and enjoy the next 9 months tucked warm in your uterus!! =)  Sally said it last thread, heres to a Lucky summer!!!! SSBD to ALL of you wonderful Ladies!!!

XoXoXoX
Amberlee
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398459 tn?1262186144
Hi AGP friends,

Sally, as the Bud commercial goes..."I love you man"!  You are so sweet (I promise I won't tell and ruin your reputation around the neighborhood!)  ;-)  That really blows about the migraines.  I was fortunate and never really had bad side effects from the stims (besides the obvious weight gain).  Hope you feel better and this is temporary.  Thanks again for being my long-lost sister from a different mother!  

Well, I had my appt this morning with the RE.  As expected, he recommended a different protocol but is not at all optimistic about my prognosis.  And I quote.."I wasn't confident after your first cycle, and I am less confident after your second cycle".  Ouch.  Truth hurts, but it is WAY better then leading me on.  At least I can make an informed decision.  The protocol is called "Estradiol Patch/GnRh Antagonist/Microdose Lupron Protocol".  Uh, what the h**l does that mean?!?  No birth control pills this time as this may have contributed slightly to my poor response.  Meds include estradiol patch and Ganirelix (part 1) and menopur , rFSH and microdose Lupron (part 2).  The RE said he would be happy with 3 follicles at retrieval.  Yikes, with only 3 follicles, that doesn't give me very good odds.  If only 70% of follicles have eggs, and not all eggs are mature, then not all fertilize and survive to day 3 for transfer, I can understand why my prognosis is pretty poor.  On top of that, he told me that my rate of MC is high, due to all of the above factors.  Geez!

On the other hand, I met a delightful, sweet and beautiful young girl (young 20's) in the waiting room.  She was there as a donor.  I asked her for an egg or two, to which she laughed and said "sure, if you pick me"!  The RE said that donor eggs are $12,000 ($5,000 for the donor clinic, $7,000 for the donor).  Plus, you pay for their IVF cycle and your own (which some insurance pays for).  The success rate is ~65+ %.  Hmmm...lots to think about.  The only decision that I have definately made is taking one cycle off, enjoying the summer (aka drinking margaritas) and working on my physical (and mental) health.  

Sorry for the long post.  No one else in my life really understands all this mumbo-jumbo, and this is much cheaper than therapy!  ;-)

I hope you are all well today, and as always, I look forward to more good news!

Krista
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186627 tn?1257877774
Kele:I'm having hopefully the day 3 transfer on Friday.I'm sorry you feel so uncomfortable..

Sally:I NEVER suffer of migraines but Lupron gave me the worst in my life...ARRRGH I can totally relate

Magda:I hope BW is fine and you can start tonight.
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392430 tn?1382904781
Sally- I sympathize with you about the migraines. I have been a sufferer of them my whole life. I am fortunate that the stims only cause frontal headachs for me.

Miky- Are you triggering Friday?

Magda- I got everything crossed for you to get great numbers.

Ow...my ovaries are killing me I think.  I so hope I get to trigger tomorrow, don't know how much more I can take. Although this cycle is much better than the last with the change in protocall. Last cycle I was this uncomfortable 3 days into the stims...
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458090 tn?1256321162
Yep.. migraines.. intense overwhelming migraines.. and they're from the stims.  I knew it was a possible side effect and since I am taking such massive doses, it doesn't surprise me.  Yuck!  My acupuncturist was able to get them to go away for about 2 hours yesterday, then WHAM BAM THANK YOU MA'AM, they were back.. boo hoo for me..

Magda.. Let us know the B/w results.. I am excited you'll be along with me!!  

Jen.. Where are you girl?  Getiing poked and prodded by your new "Eastern Medicine" dude?  I hope he's cute and he pokes and prods you well!  hee heee  When do you start your next cycle?

Juana.. Thanks for the concern.. Heck, you're showing more concern than my DH.. I think he's pretty immune to all my various gynecological problems at this point.. he like "another surgery?.. ok.. another cramp?.. ok.. another Dr. visit?.. ok. I think he pretty much just feels along for the ride at this point.  Poor fella.. hes a good man, just doesn't show emotion well.


Helen.. How are you?? Haven't seen you in a couple days, so I've been worried.

Miky.. That is a fantastic number!!!  Yah yah yah!!!!!  Man.. I could only dream....
Keep us informed oh egg makin lady!

Amberlee.. You should check out betabase.org, it has a compilation of betas on there and its something new to obsess over  :)  


Krista.. My sister from another mother...Your post about wanting a "kind and funny child" really hit home for me. S=h=i=t, I am tearing up again just thinking about what you said.  believe me when i understand completely.  i have had this discussion with DH and I will totally go the ED route if needed.  But, like you, it's last in line for options besides adoption.  I thought about what you said a bunch yesterday and I wish you were here for me to hug.. then we could listen to old Ratt and Pat Benetar together!  OK.. youre going to think I'm a total loser, BUT.. I was listening to my Sirius satellite radio, the "Hair Bands" channel and there was this song from the 80's by hair band White Lion and the song made me think of you..here's part of the song:

"Are you cryin tonight?
Are you feelin all right?
I told the world that you were down on your luck

You were one of a kind
One who'd never give it up
Even when they put a price on your head

Has anyone heard the tales you tell?
Or seen the scars you wear?
Did anyone speak up when you fell?
Does anybody care?

Rise again little fighter
And let the world know the reason why
Shout again little fighter
And dont let it impair the things you do"

I know I'm a geek, but seriously.. that's you.. you're awesome and totally deserve a beautiful little one.



My posts are always too damn long.. I'll post again later so it looks like I have multiple thoughts in one day.

Sally
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324913 tn?1302869517
Migraines???  Why?  Did I miss something??  Are you okay today or still there???
So sorry Sally... this is the LAST thing you need!

Miky, I get b/w results tonight and if all is well I start the puregon tonight too.
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507875 tn?1423160261
Are youtaking anything for the pain? How are you doing otherwise?
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OMG.. THE MIGRAINES!!!!!! I am absolutely dyin here!  OUCH OUCH OUCH  %$%$^8562345%$!@^%@&
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186627 tn?1257877774
Thank you All!
kele:wow!!! your ovaries are working extra time!!!!Friday is going to be a BIG day for both us ;-)

Magda:even though you were never on Puregon I think Dr aftger few cycle start to cheat maning that they know how your body will react and its easier for them to predict outcome.When are you starting the puregon?

xoxox
Miky
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324913 tn?1302869517
Hey Miky... that sounds real good.  I have fingers and toes crossed for you.

I just got back from the doctor’s.  He’s changing my protocol to Puregon.  I'm on 210 IU per day.  To those who have been / are on Puregon, is that fairly standard as a dose and how much are you on?  
Also, it looks like he means to have me on this for only 8 days.  That’s what he said to start with at least.  I see him for an u/s on day 7 and I guess he’ll tell me if I need to carry on for longer then.  although, I'm a bit worried that he doesn't feel a need to do an u/s sooner than that to see if maybe we need to up the does or anything.  Any thoughts?
Tomorrow I call for the results of the b/w and hopefully start stimming tomorrow.
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Miky - Good job and good luck on friday!

Kele - Your ovaries kicked AZZ!! Good luck on your transfer!!!

Krista - You are welcome!!!

Sally, I have to agree with Krista, I look forward to your post...you have a way with words...LMAO

~Tijuana
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Miky, Great news!  Keep us posted on the quality and grade!

Kele, Dang!  That's a lot of follies!  Kudos to Kele's ovaries!

Juana, Thanks for your kindness...you are so very nice!  ;-)

Krista
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Miky, yay!  I am excited for you.

ooks like I will be triggering Friday or Saturday. Today at the u/s there were more follies,we counted at least 35 and my estogen is at 1,135. I am still feeling really positive about this cycle and simply can't wait.
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Ok..her I am with my update.
Retrieval yesterday went well there was a HUGE difference from my old clinic.My RE stayed the whole time with me,no nurse!She woke me up and she told me what the outcome was.
24 eggs were retrieve but only 15 were mature (I knew a lot will be immature since my RE was trying to be conservative and worried about OHSS).
She just called me to tell that they did ICSI and 14 fertilized.As she said its still too early to talk about quality and grade,we'll know more tomorrow.
She always does day 3 transfer so if everything goes well for the embryos I will have my transfer Friday.
I'm excited but very cautious.After all I went through I know this does not mean anything and we have a long way .

Krista:good luck with the RE tomorrow.You know sometimes to change protocol actually does change things a LOT.
Heather:welcome back!
Magda:how are you doing?
Helen:how is the spotting?
Sally:I gained 4 pounds during stims!!!! I lost 2 yesterday though!!!!I hope its the case for you and Juana and everybody else! ;-)
I'm off to work already very late.
xoxox
Miky
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Krista - Good luck on your appointment tomorrow.

Ladies, I too have gained a lot of weight, with just the first cycle. My stomach looks like I am already expecting. So with that being said, My DH and I have decided to start walking everynight (the clomid has caused him to gain weight) and also watching what we eat...no more fast food (boo hoo, I have a weakness for french fries)...I enjoy it beacuse it gives us the oppurtunity to clear our heads and talk about things other than TTC. The Fertility center I go to here in chicago offers a fertility cleanse, couples massage and also a fertility yoga class free of charge so I think we will sign up for those as well...sorry for rambling on...I just felt like sharing! ~smile~

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Ahhh, Sally, I always look forward to your posts.  They do make me giggle.  Think positive, my little cupcake (can you tell I am hungry having started my diet today?), as that will make a difference.  Visualize those stubborn follicles growing... How was the menopur?  I hear that burns.  True?  It seems you and I really are similar.  My antral follicle count was 13, too.  Both cycles, however, I only had 6-7 follicles there that month.  My follicles are stupid though.  Stupid stupid stupid.

I, too, have been going the eastern medicine route.  I have been getting accupuncture 1-2 times per week since February.  It is very relaxing, and I think it is one of the reasons that I haven't had a mental breakdown.  Seriously!

A couple of you have asked my thoughts on DE's.  Like all of you, I want my own eggs, but at some point I may have to "get real" (thank you Dr. Phil).  I have only done two cycles, which I know isn't alot, but the results have been very minimal.  It is not realistic to think that a different protocol is going to make a HUGE difference.  It may certainly work better, and I may respond better, but the odds are still quite low for me.  And, no, I am not being pessimistic here.  I am simply trying to be realistic and take out as much emotion as possible (yeah, that's real easy) to make my next decision.  If money were no object, then I would certainly continue IVF with my eggs.  Unfortunately, the time will come soon that the cash is gone and I won't be able to do anything.  At the end of all this, I don't want to be broke and without a child.  I want to be pregnant and create a life.  I want to be a mother and raise a kind and funny child.  That really is what is most important.  So, if that means using a DE, then I guess that is what I will do.  It is my body, my blood, DH's sperm...not a bad combination.  

Thanks for all the support girls.  I have an appt tomorrow with the RE.  Will let you know how it goes.  

xoxo, Krista  
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See, I go to sleep early last night and something exciting happens.  Congrats Amberlee!!! And what an awesome Beta so early.  Ya know, your embies could have split after transfer too.  So, maybe there's more than 2!! OMG.. How exciting for you.  Can't wait to see how many!!!!

Magda.. Ya know.. I really look like a thoroughbred race horse these days too, so svelte and rippling musculature... NOT!  LOL.. more like the running of the bulls!  heehee... "She's out of the gate.. watch those big boobies swing around and those inner thighs, careful, she might start a fire with that friction.. ooh.. and that belly.. caution spectators, she may knock herself out with it!!"  LOL.. Im crackin myself up again.  And even though I freely admit to being a weirdo, the follicles I mentioned are Antral follicles, or resting follicles..to both you and Helen.. that's about a lowish average number, and its not the antral follicles I have a problem with, its making those suckers grow!  And Im so glad you'll be joining me this month!  Yah!!!!!

Jen.. Don't you love Acupuncture?  I love it!  Have another appt today.  And I have totally stopped all my obsessive "googling". My cycle had started, so it's pretty much out of my hands now.  I hope your detox diet includes protein.  Some of those diets are only powders and veggies, and you really need protein to build muscle mass which in turn increases your resting metabolism and burns calories faster.  Not that I pay one iota of attention to that stuff anymore.  Heck, I woke up this morning with oreo residue on my fingers. Im such a slob these days.  
Can't wait to see you on your next cycle!  Go Jen, Go!

Helen.. Like i said to Magda.. My follicles are the "resting"ones.. maybe if Im lucky most of them will grow, but since Im a poor responder, they probably won't.  How are you doing, BTW?  Been thinking about you, hope your okay.

Krista...I totally understand the stresses that are making you a ticked off beyotch!  I was thinking yesterday that there should be some sort of fertility retreat for women going through all this.  It would be a two week program, week 1:  Lots of alcoholic beverages, smoking ciggies or "whatever", and light fare to eat.  Combine that with group discussion, yoga, meditation and hikes.  Week 2: More strenuous exercise like harder hikes and weight training, mountain biking, etc...Along with acupuncture and massage.  And also in week 2 there will be a stricter diet, no alcohol, etc..  What do you think?  Ok, now all I have to do is uh.. start a multi-million dollar spa somewhere really gorgeous.  Back to you: Have you tried the "estrogen priming or lupron flare" protocols?  You're a fighter girl, I think things will start to look up.. says sage Sally.


heather.. So happy to see you here again!!!!!  You're one of the reasons I started posting here.. I hope your doing well.  Sorry about the m/s!  



renell and kari.. how you guys doin?  Do you both have m/s too?  Keep in touch, ladies!

Land.. The only reason mine goes into such detail is b/c I am pushy!  Hee hee. Im like.. how many this? and how much that?  And I think you should do this!  Try it.. I swear they'll be more forthcoming!

Juana..Thanks for the sweet notes.. youre such a kind soul.  And good luck on your FET!  Im jealous, I really doubt I'll have any to freeze..


As for me, Im grateful my RE said I could have a cup of regular coffee in the a.m. If I don't p=oop, then I am one cranky SOB! (maybe some of that has to do with the fact that after my myomectomy, i have severe scar tissue attaching my uterus to my bowel.. nice, huh?)  RE also said I could have some fiber caps. to help me "go".. thank you baby Jesus!  And I had my first shot last night.. 4 frikkin amps. of menopur per shot.  I wish they made those packages bigger.. so much paper waste b/c of my infertility! (Yeah, that's right, Im thinking green here, ladies!)  My next RE appt. is Friday, so everyone cross thir fingers that my silly follies actually grow!

Big fat girl hugs!!!!!!!
Sally
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Hi everyone!

I'm with Krista...just needed a little break after the bad news last week. I needed a week to not think about ttc, although I guess it's kinda always on my mind. I'm taking the month off til next cycle (at least). I started acupuncture and cupping today and detox diet tomorrow (maybe it will help shed the pounds). The eastern med doc was fantastic and very helpful; said my body is WAAAAYYYYY out of balance and that I should consider taking 2-3 cycles off; I don't think so. So thats it for me...just here to support all ya'll...

Krista - My a*s*s is HUGE these days so I can totally relate. I actually stepped on the scale the other day and almost started crying on the spot. I have NEVER been this big and none of my clothes fit either. I actually gave in to elastic waist slacks (thank you Target) for work cuz i was so desperate. So I hope you don't feel alone in this battle. Also, have you tried acupuncture? I was amazed at how relaxed I was afterwards and hopeful that it would improve the quality of my eggs and such. Just a thought..

Sally - my rockstar, so excited for you to start the process! But you really need to CHILL OUT girlfriend! All that stress and anxiety is only going to hurt you in this process. Do me a favor...stop looking up stats and such! Each case is unique so the stats are not that generalizable. Take this opportunity to focus on relaxing a bit. I know its hard - trust me, I've been there - but you gotta do it. I think in retrospect I realize that my stress levels were way to high during the cycle and I'm sure that wasn't good for me.  Deep breath sister...aaaahhhhhh

Juana and Lisa - good luck with this cycle! Glad you joined the gang!

Helen - my dear...any news? I'm thinking about you all the time and hoping for only good things.

Kari and Amberlee - I can't stop smiling cuz I'm so happy and excited to hear the news! Keep it coming! All these BFP's continue to give me an inkling of hope that all of this will be worth it in the end.

Heather - you are welcome to "drop in" ANYTIME!!! Aren't you a founding sister of AGP? :)

Hope all is well with everyone else. Sorry if i missed anyone, there was a ton to catch up on and it is after midnight here so i am signing off...

XOXO
jen
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... And Sally'd out of the gate... she's off to a great start... Off you go SALLY!!!
I have my appointment tonight and hopefully will be joining you on stims tomorrow!
God I hope that 4 really is a lucky number and that this time works!
Okay, feel stupid asking this but how does one get 12 follies before stimming?  Isn't that like, not natural?  Always knew there was something funny about you!!!

Amber, I was going to say that when I switched doctors I went from PIO to the suppositories and was told they're just as good if not better but I guess that's not important now!!! Congratulations... that's fantastic!!

Krista, I'm so sorry for what you're going through.  I seem to respond just fine but I've had 3 failed cycles and equally can't understand what the problem is.  I know it's a different situation but just as frustrating.  And it packs on the weight just as much.  I fully understand the frustration there.  And so many non ttc-ers just don't.  I HATE that I can't fit into my clothes.  I have been living in this one pair of jeans, one skirt and one sun dress for the last several months.  Sometimes I look at the clothes in my cupboard and try to remember what it was like to be a little trendy / funky !!!

Miky, how are you doing??

Hope everyone's well...
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Kari--Congrats on your triple blessing!!!! Every triplet pg scenario is different, so just stick to what your docs are telling you, and don't imagine worst-case scenarios. You know in your heart you want all 3, and your heart will ultimately tell you what to do if for some reason you may be faced with a health dilemma. I had a unique health dilemma when I was carrying triplets, and made my personal choice. SInce you do not seem to be facing these obstacles, just enjoy being pregnant!!! !

Amber--CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!

I know I haven't been around a lot, but I try to keep up with what's going on with you guys. I have still been suffering with severe morning sickness, plus a few other problems, so I spend most of my days sleeping, puking, resting, eating. . .Lather, Rinse, Repeat.

Hope it's OK if I just pop in and out as I am able, and please know you guys can pm me anytime, as I will be doing for you.

Heather Jo
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