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home pregnancy test after ivf possibly correct?

home pregnancy test after ivf possibly correct?

by dixiegal1, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
I did egg retrieval on 6/10.  ovidrel(hcg)shot on 6/8.  blastocyst transfer on 6/15.  i know they tell you not to take a home test, but i couldn't help myself.  I thought maybe if i took one every couple of days, the results might be more accurate.  i took a test 6/18 was negative.  today 6/21  tested positive.  Is it even possible?
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by BabyforLori, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
Yes, it is entirely possible.  However, just a word of caution.  The Ovidrel shot is hcg, which is what is measured by the HPT's.  So, it is also possible you could be receiving a positive result due to the Ovidrel shot, not due to pregnancy.  Wishing you the best of luck.......I am rooting for you!!!

by tina1111, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
They say the shot is USUALLY out of your system within 10 days. It can linger in some. I'd test again tomorrow with same brand and see if is darker. It's sounding very encouraging!

by dixiegal1, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
To: BabiforLori
Thats what i'm worried about.  hoping the negative result on monday meant that was out of my system...  but you never know.  obviously there is a reason for NOT taking a hpt...  but i think i needed the boost... LOL.  the waiting is causing the anxiety to take over.
thanks for you response.

by tina1111, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
To: dixiegal
We even have a dh whos wife is going thru 2nd IVF that posts. His name is Chris. He should be updating in a few days. Their 1st try didn't work so 2nd is underway. It's nice seeing the man get as into all of this as we are, lol.

by Brown Eyed Gurl, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
To: dixiegal
I'd say it's a BFP since you did have a neg the test before so I'd almost bet you're pregnant.....congrats if so.....

by BabyforLori, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
I totally know what you mean.  I did IVF, and up until the day before I went in for my beta, my HPT's were coming back negative. I was so down thinking it did not work.  When I went for the beta blood test, my level was 95. So, at that level it should have should in my urine, but it didn't.  They said that it was probably due to the rate of absorbtion - I having a slower rate.  Now, you could have a faster rate of absorbtion which would mean that a Congratulations is due.  And, of course, the longer the BFP's come on the HPT's, the more chances are that this month was a successfuI month for you - I really hope this is the case for you......waiting is so stressful.  I really am rooting for you a BFP!!!!!!!!!  Good luck and keep us all posted!!!

by tina1111, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
To: dixiegal
I didn't catch the part about the neg b4 the pos. Yep, I'd say is most likely a BFP!!!

by dixiegal1, Jun 21, 2007 12:00AM
To: everyone!
thank you for your responses...  i so wish i had found this sight BEFORE i started infertility treatments.  i read a lot from articles...  but i never looked much at forums.  I think it would have been less emotional to be talking with those of you who have been thru it.  i find out monday at the doctor..  but i'm still going to be taking a hpt everyday.  LOL  thanks again

by dixiegal1, Jun 22, 2007 12:00AM
took another test today... same brand...  darker positive.... whoo hoo..  :)  i'm still afraid to be excited but definitely not to terribly stressed anymore.  

by Pinkpanter, Jul 30, 2007 02:06AM
To: Everyone
I research HPT and they say that First Response Eary results is the most accurate? Have anyone had a good experience?

by Pinkpanter, Jul 30, 2007 02:13AM
To: Anyone that knows
How many days or week (s), am I pregnant if a get a BFP on my beta after a 5dt?

by miky72, Jul 30, 2007 08:23AM
I think it definetely look as a BFP!!!
Congrats!

by Pinkpanter, Jul 30, 2007 12:58PM
To: Everyone
Hello, how many cycles it takes for a average couple to get pregnant with IVF?

by miami_beach, Aug 01, 2007 02:13PM
To: Everyone
I am 7dpt and have been doing HPT since 4dpt....I am slightly obessesive.  They have all come back BFN.  My blood work is going to be done on Friday so we shall see.  I'll probably do one more tommorrow and then let the blood work on Friday be the final test.  I tested positive with my first one about 5dpt (m/c at 7 weeks).  I am down though...no symptoms and last time I had symptoms.  I was bloated and had cramping and very swollen breasts.  This time nothing.  I feel like any second I could get AF and should on Monday or Tuesday.  Anyone else never have symptoms but test positve with the Dr.
Pinkpanter-there is really no knowing when the IVF will work.  My worked on the first try but I know people who have tried 9 times.  Go for it!

by God Bless us All, Aug 03, 2007 09:27PM
To: Dixiegal1
What did your blood test show I hope it showed a big POSITIVE.........Keep us posted

for all good Luck and God Bless

Baby dust to Us.............................

by Miss Suga, Aug 06, 2007 05:11PM

by Miss Suga, Aug 06, 2007 05:11PM
To: Everyone
Hello to all.  I am so impressed of the support system here.  I wish I had found this website when I first started my IVF cycle!!!  I am so shocked and I guess a bit relieved that I am not the only one who is going through anxiety.  Dixiegal1, I did almost the exact same thing as you.  I took my hcg shot on 7/23; retrieval on 7/25; transfer of 3 eggs on 7/28.  I am due to take a blood pregnancy test on 8/7 but last night my anxiety and emotions got the best of me.  I was looking for my husband to encourage me to wait until 'Wednesday but of course he didn't.  So, he went to the store and bought  EPT which had three tests in it.  So, we took one last night and the results were positive.  So, first thing this morning I took another one and it also came back positive.  So, of course, tomorrow morning I will take another one just to see and possibly Wednesday before I go to the lab.(LOL) I have faith but I am human as well, so I am asking anyone who could offer any advice rather it is positive or negative feedback.  We decided not to share this experience with any friends or family in case things didn't work out.  Could this possibly be?????

by carina1, Aug 06, 2007 05:43PM
I'm so new to all this, so I don't want to give you any wrong information-- but it certainly does sound good!  The best of luck to you.  I had my blood test today and it was negative.  I'm devastated, but the support from this forum is tremendous.  Please let us know how things go.  I'll be sending you lots of positive thoughts!!!!!!!!
Carina

by Miss Suga, Aug 06, 2007 06:58PM
To: Carina
Thank you soooo much for your kind words.  I'm sorry about your results but do know that everything will be alright.  God has a plan for us all.  Don't give up!   This note is sent with a bouquet of flowers and chocolate. (Yum)

by hope4usyet, Aug 14, 2007 06:51AM
To: everyone
Not to be a downer...wishing you all success, but....take it from a seasoned traveler....a positive test doesn't mean a successful pregnancy. I have had a few positive blood tests and unfortunately they failed week 6 of gestation. I now wont consider myself pregnant til I see a heart beat on a week 8 scan...even then, until I hold that baby in my arms...... :-)

by mrsstr, Aug 14, 2007 09:39AM
To: everyone
I am now 9dpt and have had 2 faint plus signs on my HPT for the past 2 days.  I don't go to the DR. until Fri, but since I have NEVER had a positive pregnancy test in 4.5 years of trying, it is sooo hard not to get excited!!!

by Miss Suga, Aug 14, 2007 02:43PM
To: hope4usyet, mrsstr
What do you mean when you say that a positive blood test doesn't mean a successful pregnancy?  My blood test came back positve on Aug. 8 with a HCG level of 302 then I had to go back on Aug. 10 and my HCG was 708. I took another one yesterday but my doc hasn't called me back with the results.  So, should I still be worried????

mrsstr- Good luck to you and I hope that your bpt come back positive.  And it's ok to get excited but just be open minded about the situation because anything could happen.  Keep us posted.  

by hope4usyet, Aug 15, 2007 05:34AM
To: everyone esp. Miss Suga
Please don't get me wrong, there is still reason to be excited. Those levels are very promising! For those of us who have been trying for years (and going thru IVF) you can't help but get excited! And many times a +ve test does lead on to a successful pregnancy. However, one thing my docs did not tell me about...I found out about it once it had happened...that it is possible to be "sort of" pregnant. I have had what is called a "blighted ovum" which is a pregnancy sac but no baby developing in it. Since it is the sac that produces the hCG and not the baby, it is possible to have a +ve test and not be pregnant. I tell you this not to scare you....sorry if I have....I tell you to inform you and everyone else. Please anyone else...if you have any questions re this, I'm happy to answer them.

As it turns out, I'm stressing coz I had a frozen embryo T/F least week and am sweating it out till my blood test next week...trying to reist the urge to wee on a stick!!

Would also like to comment on the support. Think it's fantastic there is somewhere we can talk about this stuff with people going thru the same thing! Get's tough doesn't it ladies! Shed more tears than I care to. Big hug and love to you all. My thoughs and best wishes are with you all!  :-)

by ltillots, Aug 15, 2007 04:59PM
To: Everyone
Thank you for all your information.  My husband and I have been trying since 2004 to get pg.  We finally decided to try IVF after 4 failed IUI attempts.  I had my ER on 8/7/07 and my ET on 8/10/07.  My blood test is not till 9-2-07...We can't wait.  Infact my husband is counting the days!!  :)  I want to take a HPT but I am afraid that if it turns out negative I will be bummed!!  And if it would be positive...I'd be terrified it wasn't accurate (as you all say the HCG shot could cause neg results).  I am hopefull...BUT no symptoms here...I am glad I finally found a web page w/ recent entries.

by Miss Suga, Aug 15, 2007 06:37PM
To: hope4usyet
Aloha, from Hawaii.  Thanks for the info.  I have never heard of that and my doctor sure didn't tell me of such a pregnancy.  I took another bpt on Monday and this time my hcg level was over 2000.  I hope that this is a good thing.  My hcg levels continue to increase. So, how can your sac continue to grow if there is no baby inside?  If there is no baby then what happens to the sac?  Were you having any symptoms, if so what were they or did you just show up for your ultrasound and that's when you found out?  Please inform cause Ihave my 6 week ultrasound on aug 23.

by hope4usyet, Aug 16, 2007 03:25AM
To: Miss Suga
Hello from Oz! Ooooh! I'm getting excited for you! Things look good! Other terms for blighted ovum is "missed miscarriage" or "agestational pregnancy". What happens is that emryo starts to develop normally but due to things like chromosonal abnormality, the embryo stops developing. I still felt all my symptoms but in truth could identify the day they "stabilised". I was told I would miscarry naturally at 8 weeks post ET. However, they advised a D and C which I had. To note, the reason it takes so long to miscarry is my doc told me that a pregnancy takes as long to regress as it does to develop. So if I was due to miscarry wk 8 post ET, then the embryo failed at about 4wks development (6 weeks preg).
My symptoms were as you would expect; fatigue, nausea (I got 4pm sickness!), hunger, dizziness. Please note, not everyone gets the "typical" indicators of preg. Everyone is different. Had one friend who if it wasn't for her growing stomach, would not have known she was! But as I said, they did subside a little. I thought God was being kind to me after my long wait. Felt very cheated when I saw the scan and no heart beat!
Have to think tho....there was obviously something very wrong with that embryo, so God was being kind by sparing me so early on.
I'm sure you will have nothing to worry about. Good luck with U/S. Let us know how you go. Hug 4 U! :-)

by ltillots, Aug 16, 2007 11:26AM
To: Everyone
I found this information on the web site from the Advanced Fertility Clinic of Chicago--"For women that have had an HCG injection as part of their infertility treatment, the hormone will take about 5-14 days to clear from the woman's system, depending on the dose and the individual woman. This can causes problems with interpretation of pregnancy tests done earlier than 14 days after an HCG injection."  You can read more if you like at http://www.advancedfertility.com/earlypre.htm.  

I hope this helps some of you (like me) that were wondering about what tina1111 said on the number of days HCG stays in your system that can lead to a false positive.

by Sweetpea2, Aug 19, 2007 06:10AM
To: Everyone
Had transfer Monday, 8/13 on day 3, did HPT this morning, came back BFN.  This is my 2nd IVF and my blood test is not until 8/28.  I expect that it is too early to test put it appears that implantation can occur as early as 5-10 DPO.  Have sore boobs, I expect it's the progesterone suppositories!  Just found this thread and it is really helpful!!  

by daisybear12, Aug 19, 2007 11:57AM
To: All
Had Transfer on 8/9; did a home preg test 8/19, does this mean I really am negative on the preg results?  I have a blood test on 8/21.  I am very nervous as this is my first attempt.

by ltillots, Aug 20, 2007 11:44AM
To: Sweetpea2 daisybear12
I too had sore breasts for several days, but this has since subsided.  I just asked my IVF coordinator this AM about how long the HCG shot stays in your system (as we took a home preg test and it was positive just last night)...as you may recall, from above, my retrieval was the 7th of this month...and this is her response: "15 days, that is why we schedule your pregnancy test at that exact time.  You run the risk of the test not being correct. We will actually get a number with the blood test not just a 'positive' or 'negative'."  

So sweetpea2, don't loose hope!!!  I am staying open to the fact that the blood test could still come back negative--however I hope not.  We can't really aford a second attempt.

by hpng4babe, Aug 20, 2007 12:12PM
To: Itillots/ dixiegal1
My doctor asked that I not take a home test.  I cheated....I took a test yesterday (10 after transfer) amd this morning.  Got a positive both times.  The nurse called me this morning just to get an update on my spotting and cramping from Friday.  I told her I took a home test...i just couldn't help myself.  She had an attitude.  She asked that I not get to excited because the hcg in my system could make those results.  I test Thursday, which is my 14th day.  This is killing me.  I rather be at work involved in something.

by kpca629, Aug 20, 2007 12:51PM
To: All
Help!! Can't stand the wait and cant stop taking hpt's.  They are all coming back positive. had a 5dt 6 days ago.  Trigger shot was evening of 8/7.  Does that sound like it could really be positve and the trigger shot is out of system.  I also had OHSS.

by hpng4babe, Aug 20, 2007 01:10PM
To: kpca629
According to my Dr. OHSS can get worse when you are pregnant.  Are u bloated and hurting?

by kpca629, Aug 20, 2007 01:29PM
To: kpca629
The pain isn't as bad as it was last week.  I do have cramping but just trying to stay positve.  I am still very bloated, feels like i just ate dinner 10 times in a row. My belly looks like I'm pg.  Also have the feeling like I have to go peeps every 30 minutes and then I barely go.  I'll pray for your positve result....pray for me too!

by hpng4babe, Aug 20, 2007 01:42PM
To: kpca629
I feel the same way!  I had to go out and buy pants with elastic and drawstrings because my belly is so big.  I better be pregnant!!!

by kpca629, Aug 20, 2007 01:49PM
To: hpng4babe
You and I both test the same day. I hope we both get wonderful news!!  Did you do a 3dt?  My retrieval was the 8/9. When was your trigger shot?

by mcwille, Aug 20, 2007 09:07PM
To: All
I am in the agony of waiting also I had a 5 day transer on the 15th I bought HPT today but can not decide if I should take it or not.  I had a blood test today and my dr told me to take a small booster shot so if I do not do it today I have to wait till the blood test.  


by hpng4babe, Aug 20, 2007 10:31PM
To: kpca629
My retreival was 8/4 at 6:30 am.  My trigger was 8/3.  My transfer was 8/9. Do you know of anyone that continued to get positives on hpt's but got a negative blood test?

by kpca629, Aug 21, 2007 07:03AM
To: hpng4babe
I'm trying to find that out.  You're trigger was 4 days before mine.  My trigger was exactly 2 weeks ago today.  My transfer was 1 week ago today.  I'm so nervous.

by kpca629, Aug 21, 2007 07:22AM
To: mcwille
I'm so bad...I can't stop taking tests.  I must poas every time I go and I'm marking them with the date and time. Hopefully I'll be putting this in a baby or babies time capsule one day.

by ltillots, Aug 21, 2007 01:13PM
To: hpng4babe
You are correct in that I think all IVF coordinators/Dr's ask that we not take preg tests due to the false readings.  As I said I am staying open to the fact that the tests are wrong that we have taken, due to the HCG (given at 9:30 PM on 8/5) staying in your system for 15 days (according to my IVF coordinator).  I guess this is why the call it the hellish jtwo week wait!!  I took another one last night (which would be day 15 and again got a positive reading...so we are very hopefull...will take another one tonight--BUT still open to false readings--It will be a big let down if we don't have a good blood test!!

I too have felt bloated the past few days and painfull too.  I'll let you know if I get a pos or neg result on my blood test...it is scheduled for tomorrow AM.

by FaithNHim, Aug 21, 2007 04:45PM
To: ltillots
I am waiting to take my test which is scheduled for Thursday. I took a home pregnancy test (yes, I yielded to temptation and was so disappointed when it came back negative) My sister had her test on Monday and it came back negative. The test I used stated it was "sensitive" enough to pick up levels as low as 20. What should the levels be by now?

by FaithNHim, Aug 21, 2007 05:47PM
To: Everyone
Has anyone experienced the following?

My E2 levels were 7500, I had to coast for three days and my numbers eventually dropped to 5500 on day 3 of "coasting". Nine eggs were retreived and 8 fertilized. Egg aspiration was on 8/8/07 and
egg transfer was on 8/11 @ 8:00 am. I txf 3 eggs, 2 were 8 cell and 1 one 6 cell. I am 35 and will be 36 next month. As stated earlier, I completed a HPT I used this morning was negative. I was obviously warned about OHSS and felt alot of discomfort before but feel much better. My doctor said if I began to feel better it was not a good sign for pregnancy. When you combine the negative test plus my current physical state one would get disappointed. This forum has helped and it feels very good to release this frustration and anxiety.

Any input?

by hpng4babe, Aug 21, 2007 08:32PM
To: FaithNHim
My doctor said the same thing about OHSS.  He told me if I start to hurt more that that would be a good sign.  I actually started to feel better.  Although, I think most of my pains were gas.  I got very constipated during my treatment from taking the big horse vitamins.  However, I do urinated all night and I am very heavy in the lower stomach area.  I also received to postive hpt's.  I will take one tonight and tomorrow.  I test on Thursday.  I'll just keep them for suveniers.  It shows that I did get pregnant at some point.

by ltillots, Aug 22, 2007 01:14PM
To: FaithNHim & hpng4babe
Well I am not sure of numbers exactly that one should have.  I have been taking hpt since Sunday (shhh :) ) and all have come back positive...so I am not sure what to tell you that I have not already said...I would stay positive though, I am sure that as with any medication, the HCG shot is in everyone's system differently and dissappears (if you will) at different times too--who really knows.

As for not feeling well...I'll take that as a good sign then from what hpng4babe said.  I have felt constipated and have had strong pains in my lower stomach for the last few days...I even get full faster then I ever had--I couldn't finish my favorite salad at Applebee's last night (regular size) AND today I felt overstuffed l after a Big Mac and some fries!!

I had my blood test this AM (drawn at 8AM) HOWEVER if you are in Topeka--DO NOT USE QUET DIAGNOSTIC--they hadn't even picked up my blood as of 11:30 AM  AND I found out it has to go to Lenexa to be tested!!!  My IVF coordinator (and myself) are a bit ticked to say the least.  Now I will be lucky to get the results by 3:30 or 4:00 today.  Should have made the 1.5 hr trip (one way) to the Dr office that I am doing my IVF with.

Anyway--I agree, it is nice to know that others are going thru the same thing and that we can vent a little on here cuz others probably feel the same way.

by ltillots, Aug 22, 2007 04:17PM
To: everyone
Got my results--WE ARE PREGNANT!!  Good luck to all of you--stay positive and it just might come back positive!!

by FaithNHim, Aug 22, 2007 05:18PM
To: ltillots
I am sooooooooooo happy for you! Take good care of yourself and enjoy  your pregnancy!

by FaithNHim, Aug 22, 2007 05:22PM
To: hpng4babe
I go Thursday....I pray you receive positive results!!!!
I would like to thank you ladies for your words of advice and encouragment

by rfrost, Aug 22, 2007 11:36PM
To: all
I can't tell you how great it is to read everything you all have written. This is our third IVF. First one worked like a charm. We even saw the heartbeat and everything. Then at our very last fertility treatment two months in we lost the heartbeat. I was by myself at the appointment and was devastated. The second IVF didn't work and now we are on the third. All within ten months. I transferred on 8/16 and every day seems to last a week. I even took off these two weeks from work to be as stress-free as possible. I have been toying with the idea of an HPT on Saturday (14 days from trigger date). I wish I knew if I felt pregnant or not. I know the cramps are significant - but I had them both times and my retrieval this time was a little "vigorous." I just don't know, and I pride myself on having a great attitude about all this - but I am a nervous wreck....!

by hpng4babe, Aug 22, 2007 11:44PM
To: Itillots
U Rock!!!!!!!  Take care.

by 40smama, Aug 23, 2007 12:19AM
To: rfrost
I transferred on the 14th so man am I feeling the nervousness with you!  Please keep me posted on how you do - it sounds like our time line is pretty close.  I haven't taken an hpt (too afraid of seeing negative results) so am toughing it out until the 24th, but I have to be honest - I'm trying to 'hope for the best but prepare for the worst' for that preg test.  I hope yours is successful and baby dust to you

by rfrost, Aug 23, 2007 10:54AM
To: 40smama
Thanks for all the good wishes - right back at you!!! Your test is on the 24th? Mine isn't until the 30th. So good luck tomorrow!!!!

I (naturally) couldn't wait on the HPT even though I knew it was probably too early for any good news seven days post transfer on a HPT. Negative test this morning. After three IVF's you think I would be better at this - but it definitely gets more stressful. I talked myself into the timeline after seeing that negative result - "Hey, the doctor would test you at seven days if they could tell that early." Actually, it was almost just a relief to have done SOMETHING that I was in control of, you know? Our doctors are great but each IVF seems like such a gamble on whether or not good eggs will be stimulated, will they fertilize, will they grow....!!! This time we had our first egg that was "compacted" and getting ready to bust out at the seams (and we were pregnant the first time with just a 9-cell). So I have high hopes, but realistic expectations. Each time is so expensive, but we have paid cash for each IVF because I was able to work extra overtime. However, I was just transferred within my department and now I don't have that luxury. I think that is adding a bit to my craziness this time around.

40smama - go get 'em girl!!!

by ltillots, Aug 23, 2007 01:14PM
To: everyone
Thanks to all.  I continue to read your comments, as I am hoping to make it thru the first trimester so I can tell many more people!!  I am sorry about your loss rfrost...what type of fertility trmts did you continue after you were pregnant?  I would have thought that was the end of those treatments, am I missing something?

by aweiss, Aug 23, 2007 01:57PM
To: Everyone
I am so thankful for this site. Just joined the other day and  I consider it my therapy for my 2WW.  Even though I do not know half of the abreviations....like DH I am thinking it has something to do witht the husband?  Anyways I transferred on 8/17 and was being stupid and bought a HPT ( I know what that means) and took it yesterday...yeah I know stupid 5 days after transfer.....it was negative. What did I expect!  But then I surfed the net to find out more info and found out that after retrieval it takes 6-10 days for implantation to occur which would be about 3-7 days after transfer.  Once implantation occurs it still takes several more days for the HCG to absorb into your system.  So this is why we must be patient.  Some people can have late implantation thus resulting in a later time frame for HCG to be absorbed into your sysytem.  I am NOT a doctor but surf the net alot and hope to keep all positive in which I am trying to do for myself.  However, my b**bs are killing me and feel bloated as hell.

by ltillots, Aug 23, 2007 02:27PM
To: aweiss
good advice and research!!

by 40smama, Aug 23, 2007 03:58PM
To: rfrost
thanks so much!  Man, you've been through the ringer!  That darn IVF is so expensive!  Like you, we have had to pay $$ for all treatments because we have no infertility insurance - I'm probably lucky to have maternity benefits and now we'll have no savings (ha, ha).    So you did take an hpt  post transfer day 7 and it was negative?   When is your preg test with your RE (I mean which day does it fall on in your cycle like 10 days post transfer)?  Your comment on the gamble is quite correct - it feels like we're in Vegas or something.  I never did like gambling, but this is a different story.  I've begun to realize that even if the preg test is positive, there's a whole other minefield to cross once that's happened as your story would indicate.

I asked the doc on this site about if I was suppose to be feeling any pregnancy symptoms post 9 day transfer and I'm curious - are you having any?  Please keep me posted and I'm pulling for you!  

by stilltruckin, Aug 24, 2007 05:52AM
To: aweiss
I had a transfer of 2 blastocysts (5 dpr) on 8/17, so yesterday was 6dpt for me and a + test in the AM. I was so happy, but so afraid to tell dh as I'm afraid its a false + due to lingering HcG (2 ovidrel shots from 8/10). Blood test is Sunday the 26th. I never had a false + before (or any + for that matter), even recently after IUIs, so I'm hopeful. Tested + again this AM with dh there. Will let you know how Sunday goes.

by kpca629, Aug 24, 2007 11:22AM
To: All
I had a 5dt 3 blastocycts...I'm so exited my test 8dp5dt was positive. HCG level 284.  Tested again today and 10dp was 467.  Can anyone else share what there numbers are with me.  Does anyone know if that number could mean multipes.  Good luck to all!!

by ltillots, Aug 24, 2007 11:40AM
To: 40smama everyone
My nurse said that I really wouldn't experience any symptoms till about 3-4 weeks into the pregnancy...except bloatedness, which has seemed to finally go down last night a little bit...at least I got a full nights sleep finally.

by rfrost, Aug 24, 2007 12:02PM
To: itillots
We didn't really have any additional treatments after finding out about the pregnancy - my "writing error." Our fertility doctor likes to keep seeing us until the second ultrasound which is called "Graduation Day." That was the day we received our bad news.

But you know, my best friend said it, well, "best"! She said, "You can't go through your pregnancy worrying that something will go wrong. If it does, you can't do anything about it anyway, and it takes away from the joy of each moment and milestone." I think she's right. We should just revel in the excitement of getting and being pregnant. I know with all the fertility hurdles, we all know more than most what a gift getting pregnant is - but it also makes us hyper-senstive to any problems. I am a police detective and I could live my whole life that way - just worried about ever horrible thing out there that's possible. So, I wish pure happiness and enjoyment to all those who get the good news and a hearty wish of togetherness in keeping up the good fight to all of those who still struggle through.

by rfrost, Aug 24, 2007 12:14PM
To: 40smama
Hey sister, thank you for all the kind thoughts but I know we have ALL been through the ringer! I am sure everyone here feels that way - one, twice, three times an IVF. It's all more difficult than practically everyone else we know who seems to get pregnant by sneezing. In fact, my husband and I joke that we both just need to become drug addicts and - voila! Problem solved!!!

As for pregnancy symptoms, I seem to get them all anyway with the progesterone (daily 1cc shots). I am weirdly proud of myself because I have become completely self-sufficient on the shots. In fact, I think it hurts less when I do the IM shots myself. My husband was a paramedic so he practically throws them at me like darts. : ) But I have all the great symptoms - minus morning sickness (which takes a bit to kick in anyway). Sore chest, bloated - ha! I look like I am five months pregnant!! I waddle, oh so prettily. The one thing I have noticed is that my extreme sense of smell has not kicked in yet. When I was pregnant after the first IVF, I could smell EVERYTHING!!! (our poor dogs had lots of baths....) But I think that was closer to the end of the month. I am only one week + 1 day out of my transfer date right now.

My pregnancy test is 14 days post transfer, Thursday, Aug. 30. 40smama, Isn't yours today? GOOD LUCK, GOOD LUCK!!! And just remember - if the planets weren't all aligned this time (or whatever such euphemism) they will surely make their way for you. If it all worked out it's fate. I am wishing you all the best!!!

by ltillots, Aug 24, 2007 04:15PM
To: rfrost
I am glad to hear someone else is 'waddling' already--When I walk I keep thinking, I shouldn't be walking this way yet.  :)  Thanks for clairifying the extra visits...that makes more sense now.

by rfrost, Aug 24, 2007 08:43PM
To: Itillots
Ah, pregnancy with fertility drugs and without are such different animals! When two months can look like four! Just enjoy every nap you can and love every minute. It's going to be great!!

by 40smama, Aug 24, 2007 09:22PM
To: rfrost
You do the shots yourself!!!!   Amazing!  Anyway, as I posted to someone else, I did end up cheating (d***) and took hpt which was positive so I had a good feeling and it was confirmed so YEAH!  Now, am pulling for you and I have a very good feeling and what is up with you being a police detective and all? Sounds like a cool job and your hubby is a paramedic - my hubby is a pharmacist so he does that dart thing too, but I am a chicken and will not do the shots on myself.

Thanks so much for the words of encouragement - they meant so much, rfrost.  Please post  everyday so I know how you are.  It feels really good to have someone to talk to who has been there.  My sister just had a baby;  she did it at 40 w/out even trying which for some reason gave me hope.

by rfrost, Aug 24, 2007 11:46PM
To: 40smama
YAHOOOOOOO, 40sMAMA!!!!! I had to check the forum before hitting the hay - I am so happy for you! I was thinking about you all day - fantastic news!! It's amazing how just a few posts between women can bond them so quickly, isn't it? As for your positive test - It's all worth it, isn't it? What an incredible day for you and your family! You are woman - ROAR!!

My hubby is actually a police lieutenant for State Parks here in California, but he was a paramedic before that years ago and still keeps his credentials up since he works on the beach. (Rough life for him, huh??? Watching the bikini babes all day!!!) I work in the county east of LA, north of San Diego. I will simply say we are busy with an unlimited number of clientele (unfortunately). I just finished working in our domestic violence/stalking unit for which I had a true passion. As much as I love my job, after some of that ugliness, giving yourself shots doesn't seem too bad. (Plus, I had to go to a conference one week during our treaments and I am not sure the bellhop would have agreed to assist!! But I guess money talks!)

Do you take the progesterone shots each day, also? The hubby must be over the moon tonight with the news!!! What was your level, did they say?

Thank you for all the good wishes - I am mystified this time around, so I guess all you can do is wait and see.... ha ha!! We are all clearly so good at waiting ; )

Take care and spoil yourself rotten! (Better yet - have the pharmacist spoil you!!!)

by 40smama, Aug 25, 2007 02:09PM
To: rfrost
THANK YOU SO MUCH, rfrost!   Ya know we aren't so far apart - I live in New mexico near Texas and my sis use to live in Laguna Nigel (sp?).  Is that kind of close to you?  Anyway, I do get a progesterone shot every day, but for the life of me, I can't remember the level only that we had to increase it to 75 everyday on the day of the transfer, but anything for all of this to work.  Do you numb your bootie really good?  That's about the only way for me to tolerate it.  

We all are very excited about the news except I haven't told my mom yet.  She is a very negative person and always has a way of bringing me down.  Even though this is our 2nd IVF cycle, she didn't even know that we were trying to have a baby.  I decided to wait until we heard the heartbeat (or maybe after the baby is born LOL).  As strange as it sounds and believe me I know that it does, this is really bringing me down.  During the process I tried just to block it out but now for very, very happy reasons  I have to be honest with her.  It's really unbelievable - here I am in my 40s worrying about what my mommy is going to say!  lol

So when is your big day?  I thought it was the 27th , but am not sure.  So have you thought anymore about taking an hpt?  You are in my thoughts and prayers if that's any help to you.  It's weird that I feel I can be more honest with you than my own mother!  I guess it's that bond that we share.  So anyway, I go back to re on the 27th to have my levels checked again to see that they doubled or something like that so it feels like I have another mountain to climb.....take care!

by rfrost, Aug 26, 2007 11:40AM
To: 40smama
Rough night. I had bad cramping all night long (and still) like I was going to get my period and I just couldn't sleep. I don't usually get my period while on the progesterone but I don't recall feeling like this when I was pregnant. Ah, who knows. This last round of fertility - while certainly expensive!! - was much shorter than my previous rounds (only about ten days of meds before retrieval) and not so hard on the body. So if I have to do it again...well, we may just have to wait a bit to save $$$. I am just a bit frustrated because I know we had three decent little suckers transferred. But only one was almost a blastocyst so I was kind of hopeful about that little guy. Again, what can you do? Perhaps I am putting the cart before the horse. Our blood test is Thursday (30th). I guess we will know then.

As for the progesterone, I iced down the shot area the first time around, but found it left pockets of the oil under my skin and that hurt even worse than the shot sometimes! My poor butt looked like it had been in a paintball war. We started doing the shots in the upper-outer quandrant of the old bootie. They absorb pretty quickly and aren't too "ouch" there.

As for moms - well, it's like talking about all this to a lot of people who haven't gone through fertility problems. They aren't always the most sensitive to the issue and your feelings - even though they think they are offering "sage" advice. If one more person tells me a story of "a friend of a friend," the couple who tried fertility treatments for five years, then gave up and voila! she became pregnant (with the theme of how I should just relax and it will happen) I may need restraints. That's all well and good, but I have been relaxing for four years now! Back to moms, I think they just try and prepare us for the worst because they don't want to see our hopes dashed. My mom is the same way. After our miscarriage she said, "You're not really going to do this again, are you??" So now, we just tell them what we are doing and don't solicit advice or listen to those comments. I know she does it out of love and the complete inability to censor her mouth or think beyond her ideaology. But she would do anything for me, too. So, I love her for who she is and just ignore the parts that don't match my personality and needs. But, hey - we ALL worry about what "Mommy" says, even if we are 60!!

Naturally, it is much easier to talk with someone going through all of this. It's kind of like letting your guard down in a room full of people you can trust not to abuse any weaknesses. We appreciate fear and despair - as well celebrate as excitement and joy!

Try not to let the pregnancy become one very long replay of the two-week wait. Don't worry, just be happy together knowing that you have become pregnant and it is a great time for you and hubby. I know that is easier said than done. But this is that celebration part! I know you are so excited, but cautionary. It's just hard not to be, isn't it?

We used to live right by Laguna Niguel - in Laguna Beach. I loved it out there! Now we are in Temecula which is in Riverside County because the homes were much cheaper. California is crazy. I have a huge chunk of family in New Mexico and went to school at University of Colorado, Boulder (not too far away). Alberquerque, maybe? Did I even spell that correctly??

Take care - good luck on your test!!! Let me know how it goes!!

by clevergirl70, Aug 26, 2007 06:51PM
To: All
Whew!!  SO glad to find this site.  We are in our first round of IVF, with HCG trigger 8/13, retrieval 8/15 (19 eggs but only 4 mature--crushing), transfer 8/18 of 2 embryos.  Not knowing about the HCG/false positive issue, I did HPT yesterday, which was light + and told several people (won't make that mistake again if in the same situation in a few months...); same today but maybe darker.  My husband thought of the HCG trigger today, and we've been learning about the false + issue.  I felt soooo dumb.  I was thinking of doing a beta tomorrow (I have a doctor friend who went through IVF and will let me check whenever I want), then again 8/29, but now I think I'll just wait till 8/4 like my RE said.

Sigh.  Glad to know I have company.

by 40smama, Aug 26, 2007 07:19PM
To: rfrost
Your bootie looks like paintball war huh?!  I'm getting a mental image - j/k!  I am sorry about your rough night.   That is so hard to handle trying not to overanalyze all of the symptoms.  So Thursday....I'll be waiting to see what happens.  I wish I had magical words to say to comfort you and tell you not to worry but it's hard not to especially going through all that you've been through - what we've all been through.  I am taking your advice and just trying to relax and enjoy the ride but sometimes it's hard when you read womens' stories and they are just heartbreaking.

I went to University of New Mexico in Albuquerque - you almost had that spelling right.  And although I haven't been to Boulder lately, I've had many friends attend UC.  Small world huh.....My sister says the homes in CA are outrageous.  I wouldn't have believed her except I watch these shows on TLC that talk about people flipping homes in California that they pay a fortune for!  So where exactly is Temecula?

Your right about the inability of some people to censor what comes out of their mouths particularly those who love us and just want the best for us.  My mom just figured that we didn't want children together because of my age and I know that she has every reason to be worried.  I just don't want her to take me down that path because I already have the tendency to do that to myself.  She reacted so negatively to my sister's pregnancy that I can imagine what she's going to say to me.  But for now am going to cross that hurdle after we hear the baby's heartbeat.  

Where is your family at in NM?  Am curious as I'm in the southeastern part near Carlsbad Caverns and Roswell aliens.   You also take care of yourself and write if you need some encouragement or some venting whatever and I'll let you know what the results are in.  

by 40smama, Aug 26, 2007 07:22PM
To: clevergirl70
You are so in the right place!!!!  I just recently got on this site after my transfer and everyone is so supportive.  Don't feel dumb because we've all been there and want so bad to see that positive sign.  Know that you are in good company and keep all of us posted.

by dallas1, Aug 27, 2007 10:17AM
To: clevergirl70
I had my ER on 8/12 and transfer on 8/15, we transferred 3 day three embryos. I broke down and took a HPT the night before my blood test. I took the test this last Friday and it was very positive. This was 14 days after my hcg trigger. I had the beta test on Saturday and it was positive, hcg of 167 13 dpr. Do not give up, it very well may be positive!

by ltillots, Aug 27, 2007 03:15PM
To: 40smama
If you (or anyone) have to do this again (god forbid!!) I would ask about the shots that you can give that do not go into your muscles (I forgot what they are called)--the needle is only about 1/4 to 1/2 inch long.  That is what I did and I only felt the needle one time out of every shot I gave (I think it may have been bent a tiny bit).  I did both my lupron and my gonal-F's using these--infact they are the same type needle as what is used for the HCG shot.  Also my Dr perscriped Prometrium--in the form of a vaginal suppository for progesterone...much easier then shots in the muscle.

by rfrost, Aug 27, 2007 07:52PM
To: Itillots, 40smama, clevergirl
Those smaller shots are the subcutaneous shots (under the skin or the "fat shots"). It is funny how every fertility treatment is different, isn't it? All of my pre-transfer shots were "subQ" EXCEPT the HCG shot which was intramuscular (IM) (like the progesterone shots). I completely agree that the subQ shots are really nothing at all. We had the Follistim pen for all the ovulation stimulation drugs and it made everything very easy. But those IM shots are a bear, aren't they??

40smama - you think I would know where my fam lived in Alburquerque....but I am the horrible cousin, clearly. I just know they are very kind people and have a gazillion kids!! So if you know any of the Nelsons...!

by ivfgirl, Aug 28, 2007 01:29AM
Hi everyone

i have a question, i did my transfer on 8/11 and am due for beta tomorrow am- did an hpt today and negative- i feel like it is the end of the cycle for me.... is these still hope that it could be positive tomorrow or should i just throw in the towel.... am soo depressed

by ivfgirl, Aug 28, 2007 01:30AM
sorry i meant to write that i did my transfer on 8/18

by 40smama, Aug 28, 2007 09:17AM
To: rfrost
rfrost - just to update you - my HCG came back at 702 and my progestone was at 44.  This is the first time I've asked for the numbers - usually they just tell if it's fine or not.  But they were very happy w/the results and I'm so relieved!!!!!!!!!!

I actually felt more pain w/subq shots (Lupron) than w/the IM shots but it shows that everyone is different.  

Itillots, my husband, who's a pharmacist, asked the RE about progesterone suppositories, but she threw it out even w/reading the research that he provided her.  She said that she had better luck w/the shots so I guess I'm sol.  I think he was talking about Prometrium.  I think she's kind of old fashioned so if I do have to go through this again (like you said god forbid), I don't think she'll change her mind.

rfrost - am thinking about you for Thursday.  you've been so encouraging to me that I want to return the favor.  All of you take care!!!!

by MAR13, Aug 28, 2007 09:31AM
I think that it is a great news and your beta might come up positive too - good luck

by ltillots, Aug 28, 2007 09:32AM
To: ivfgirl 40smama
I think there is always hope.  The reason (I was explained) they do a blood test is that sometimes the HCG level may be small enough that the home preg kits will not pick it up.  I would be depressed also, however, you never know...maybe it is just not established well enough yet.

Gosh, I forgot about the pin...I did use one of those for the gonal-f's--that is sad--It wasn't that long ago I used them :).  Your right, they also didn't hurt at all....needle size was still the same size.  That is funny--I asked my coordinator about doing the shot vs suppositories and she said they have better luck w/ the suppositories and they are easier then the IM shots--when I heard they were IM shots--I decided I would stick with the suppositories.

by ltillots, Aug 28, 2007 09:34AM
To: 40smama
was this your second test--the 702 number?  Our nurse said that if the second number came back in the 6-700's that there would more then likely be multiples.  My first number was 224, my second 451.  I go in on the 7th to see how many we will be expecting....can't wait.

by 40smama, Aug 28, 2007 09:51AM
To: Itillots
Well....they just transferred one embryo that's a whole other story so I'd be shocked as h*** if it was twins.  This was my 2nd test - the first one was 199.

I think it's great if you have more than one baby.  My RE really stressed not to do it and I can't tell you how worried I was that I made the wrong decision to follow her advice because I really would like to have two - sounds crazy, huh?!

Good luck on your test on the 7th.  Did they give you a due date?

by rfrost, Aug 28, 2007 07:23PM
To: ivfgirl, 40smama, et al
Don't worry about your negative test (ha ha ha.....like we didn't all do the exact same thing!!!) You can have a false negative because of the hcg level in your urine. What did one gal here say? - you can have a slow absorption rate. I also read on another site that a women received her positive beta test at the doctor's and went home to do a "pee on a stick" test so she could show it to her husband when she told him the good news. She did the test and it was negative! But she already knew she was pregnant (and her levels continued to double just fine).

The bottom line is - we just don't know and you just have to wait for that dreadful date. Luckily it is finally tomorrow for you. Two weeks never seemed to last such a life time did they! Good luck tomorrow!!! We are all wishing you the best. Please keep us updated!

40smama - great news!!! Congratulations on the steadly rising levels. Thanks for the support. I am just trying to have an open mind about it all. One minute I am convinced I am pregnant and the next I am convinced I am not. I just wish the progesterone wouldn't so strongly mimic the pregnancy symptoms for me. Since I have already had a positive and a negative test (and didn't feel that differently with either) I am flummoxed. We shall see!!

by 40smama, Aug 28, 2007 07:26PM
To: rfrost
Thought I would also share w/you that I told my mamcita & she took it well; she just can't understand why we didn't use a surrogate in which that is a good question.  Anyway, am relieved & am now getting hcg test on Friday.  So you did get a positive on an hpt?  When was it?

by Sweetpea2, Aug 29, 2007 09:17AM
To: All
Had transfer Monday, 8/13 on day 3, did HPT 8/19 came back BFN.  Had horrible cold with sore throat and runny nose, saw my PCP on 8/21 did PT beta at 31.  Had PT as scheduled yesterday with RE beta 640!!! Have another one scheduled for 8/30.  After five years of trying and 2 chemical pregnancies, keeping our fingers crossed that the numbers will continue to go up.  Baby dust to you all, this site has been really helpful!

by 40smama, Aug 29, 2007 11:03AM
To: sweetpea2
Congratulations!!!!!!!  Exactly what is a chemical pregnancy?  I know I read about it somewhere but I can't find that particular thread.  I also had my transfer very closely to yours.

by rfrost, Aug 29, 2007 11:04AM
To: 40smama, sweetpea2
I am glad everything went well with your mom. Every decision we make we could second guess forever, you know? You're pregnant now so that's incredible! Our test is not until tomorrow. Our FE waits 14 days after transfer. I am not extremely heartened since all our HPTs have been negative, but I will not worry about the next step until I have to and then we will figure out what we will do. Until then I am going to Lowe's to buy wallpaper. At least I do not have to go to work since I took the time off - I will be very bummed to return on Tuesday!!

Sweetpea2 - congratulations! That is fantastic news! They sound like great numbers!!

by 40smama, Aug 29, 2007 11:31AM
To: rfrost
Am also trying to keep busy, but alas am so tired, but I think it's because I have a nasty sinus infection.  My primary care doc put me on Augmentin even though I'm pregnant so hopefully he knows what he's doing.  Fortunately, there always seems to be some kind of drama in my house so at times I'm not obsessing.  Have you in my thoughts for tomorrow.

by ltillots, Aug 30, 2007 10:08AM
To: 40smama
wow 199 to 702  maybe they tested differently then with me--who knows.  I think twins would be great--I am actually hoping for twins...2 for the price of 1 :)  She told be I'd be due 4-28-08.  My Dr is a bit reserved in how many he will put back if the mom/dad to be do not want to do selective reduction.  I go in on the 7th to see how many little one's I will have CAN'T WAIT!!!  I am so excited!!  Looks like there has been lots of good news on here--Hope it continues!!

by 40smama, Aug 30, 2007 01:00PM
To: Itillots
I'm so happy for you!!!!!!!!    I am with you - two for the price of one sounds good to me!!!  I'm always looking for a bargain, lol.  So do they do a sonogram on the 4th?  My re said we're waiting until the 14th - aaauuuugggghhhh.  Another wait, sigh.  How many did they transfer?  What's selective reduction?  See I really don't know anything.....

Anyway, a big congrats to you!!!  I'm so happy you shared your good news w/me.  Is this your 1st pregnancy?  I go tomorrow for another hcg  - sigh.

by rfrost, Aug 30, 2007 10:17PM
To: 40smama
Sorry - I wish I could continue the good news, but no such luck for me. We got the official negative today. I knew it was coming but you always know there is that .001 percent that you are wrong. Three IVFs and I am more than discouraged. I am trying not to be, but with each time we have to come up with the $$ it seems like a bigger hurdle and I just wish I would have some idea if it would work. My fertility doctor is out of town so I will talk to her when she gets back. Certainly, if there's a chance I will be there waiting in line!

Thanks to everyone for the good wishes - they really do mean a lot. My best wishes for all of you as well. I will love to hear your progress!

by 40smama, Aug 31, 2007 12:02AM
To: rfrost
It's moments like this that I haven't got any wise or wonderful words to say except I'm so sorry.  Please post back to us and let us know what the re says.  It's very sweet of you to want to hear my progress - please let me know if there's anything that I can do.  I don't know if it's allowed on this forum to exchange e-mail addresses, but here's mine:  ***@****.

by ltillots, Aug 31, 2007 01:59PM
To: rfrost 40smama
Man I am sorry to hear about IVF not working again for you--that sucks!!.  How about adoption, have you ever concidered that?  We did--it is about the same amount of money that you will spend and the company we went to for the seminar said you would be in contact w/ the parent(s), have medical history and all that good stuff.  Let us know what you decide--I am sure I can say this for all of us--we are behind you all the way.  :)

I will have my sono on the 7th--2 weeks after my second blood test indicating it was still positive.  That is interesting she would wait longer then the 2 weeks.  We only transferred 2 back...but their are twins on both our sides (although we have never met them--they are that far back).  Selective reduction is basically abortion--but before they get very far along.  I don't want to have 3--to much medical problems for me and them if I did have 3 or more.

by guinness413, Sep 01, 2007 01:56PM
I had one miscarriage and then my son and then 2 miscarriages after my son. Just did IVF and go for blood test on 9/8; retrieved 13; 8 took; 6 in the freezer, 2 transferred. Bad idea to test ahead?

by 40smama, Sep 01, 2007 03:31PM
To: itillots, rfrost, guinness413
Just wanted ya'll to know that my beta hcg came back at 2,745.  I was pretty convinced up to that point that I was miscarrying because I'm still not having many pregnancy symptoms.  Even though this isn't my 1st pregnancy, it feels like it is if that makes sense.  

Itillots, when you said you don't want to have 3 - did you mean you didn't want to transfer three embryos back?  Did your re transfer at day 5 or when?  Just curious - there seems to be a wide range.  

I'm very excited for your u/s.  Let us know how it turns out.  I want to know so I'll know what to expect.

guiness413 - you mean by testing ahead to take an hpt?  Sorry if that seems like a dense question.  I'm hardly one to give advice because I cheated & took one the night before my blood test.  I know it's an eternity to wait but I'd give it some more time if you decide to go that route.  I hate all of the waiting.  Good luck to you!!

by nikki10, Sep 01, 2007 05:21PM
To: all
I had my blastocyst transfer on 08/27 I went back to the doctors on 8/31 and had a standard blood test the dr.s office called and told me to increase the progesterone inserts and apply an extra patch and start taking the pills.  Does this mean I am not preg. or is this normal?

by 40smama, Sep 01, 2007 07:08PM
To: nikki10
I'm not sure about all re's, but mine and most others that I've read about don't test usually until the 10th -14th day post transfer.  I had to have my progesterone increased about 4 days after my transfer - & I came up positive.  Hang in there!  It's terrible to wait like that.  Write to everyone because you'll receive a lot of support (I know that I did) and it will help you get through it.  Don't worry too much about increasing the progesterone.  But if you have any questions, don't hesitate to call your doctor.

by nikki10, Sep 01, 2007 10:34PM
To: 40smama
Thanks for the insight I had the greatest sense of relief knowing someone else had their meds increased..  I am so glad I found this place, its wonderful this is my first time with IVF so its all new.  We had 2 female embryos transferred so I am hoping to have them both !!!! the office didn't do a preg test just a hormone test i guess.. I took a hpt 2 days after the trans, it was neg, so I want to retake in the morning I am not a patient person ...   Thanks again

by 40smama, Sep 02, 2007 12:58AM
To: nikki10
One quick question - how did you know you transferred females?  My husband asked the embryologist about the sex but I forgot what he said.  Just curious - post again & I or anyone will be glad to help out.  Thank you for writing back & i'm pulling for you!  Hope that helps.

by nikki10, Sep 02, 2007 07:20AM
To: 40smama
we did the gender selection so they test dna from each embryo, but the weird thing is by the fifth day only two females were left which is what we wanted so maybe its fate I hope...  Took the hpt it was neg again hoping its just to early .///

by nikki10, Sep 02, 2007 09:36AM
To: all
I have been doing the HPT tests and they are neg...   maybe to early but I do have the sore boobs and sick stomach and very tired, could it just be the meds??? Or is there maybe a chance this two weeks is Horrible .......      

by all in, Sep 02, 2007 09:54AM
To: ivf girl
I had three embryo's transferred on 08/21/07, waiting for my blood test 09/06/07.  This is our first ivf cycle.  I did a hpt 09/02/07 and it was negative.  We're trying to stay positive and this site with all the info really helps.  Just wondering how your final test came back?  Thanks.

by all in, Sep 02, 2007 10:29AM
To: nikki10
Great question...I was wondering the same thing cause I have the same symtoms.

by nikki10, Sep 02, 2007 10:41AM
To: all in
And I just started having the urge to pee every second I dont know if thats a good sign or the meds fooling me, are you having the crazy dreams every night?  I am and I had those weird dreams with my last preg..  so I am confused

by all in, Sep 02, 2007 10:52AM
To: nikki10
Yes, I have been going pee alot more frequently.  The dream thing, I can't comment cause I have always had very colorful dreams.  I've never been pregnant before so this has really been quite a roller coaster of emotions.  I'm 36 and have so many questions.  Are you on the estrace and progesterone suppositories?  was your previous pregnancy ivf? and is it common to miss your period or be late after the transfer and you are waiting for the blood test date?

by nikki10, Sep 02, 2007 11:03AM
To: all in
I am on Climara patch two of them at a time, endometrin (progesterone supp) 4 a day and estrace 2 pills a day.  I have had three other children all boys by natural conception then had my tubes tided and then 4 years later decided I really want a baby girl and here I am 32 and going crazy.  This is my first time with IVF so I am full of questions and emotions to.  I would assume you would miss your period with all the meds we are on, or if your preg .. .  I will be rooting for you, you dont have to long for the blood test ....

by 40smama, Sep 02, 2007 11:04AM
To: nikki
I asked that very question to the doctor on the forum & he said it was probably too early to actually have it from being pregnant - he said it was most likely the hormones.  I know however that I do have that symptom - the urge to pee all the time before the blood test(like getting up at least twice in the night).   I personally would try not to worry too much about the test coming up negative & give it a chance to work.  My re told me that sometimes it takes up to 7 days post transfer for the little guy to implant & then a couple more for the hcg to show up.  When is your blood test?  You probably said, but I didn't see it in any of the past posts.  Good luck & stay positive!!  I'm praying for you.

by nikki10, Sep 02, 2007 11:10AM
To: 40smama
My blood test isnt until 9/10 ages away ...   I will stay positive this site really helps, good to know it can take up to seven days, so there is still hope for them to implant...  thanks for the advice and prayers I need them, I will try not to do anymore HPT they just get me down but I am so anxious I cant help it,,...   I go back this week for a hormone level blood draw I doubt they will do the beta count ...  Oh the proper name for Gender selection is PGD

by 40smama, Sep 02, 2007 11:23AM
To: nikki
You hang in there.  I know it's ages away (I know the feeling believe me).  It's hard not to go crazy; one thing someone on the forum suggested was that I read "The Secret".  I kind of skimmed & a close friend made me a visualization board  - it's like a bulletin board that has pictures of what it is that you most desire & of course she made it w/pics of babies & pregnant women.  Hope this helps!

by all in, Sep 02, 2007 11:52AM
To: nikki10
Thanks for the support...your right, i only have a few more days to wait.  It's agonizing though!
Wish you all the best!!

by all in, Sep 02, 2007 12:09PM
To: 40smama, nikki10
Its awesome to read your journey.  I just found this site today and although I know that I am not alone sometimes during this process you do. It's great to read about the questions and opinions from others who have and are going through the same things. I only have four more days till my blood test and am trying to stay positive.  

by 40smama, Sep 02, 2007 12:14PM
To: all in
Good luck to you & am thinking of you & praying for lots of baby dust to both you and nikki!

by guinness413, Sep 03, 2007 12:35PM
To: everyone
I caved and took an HPT today (8 days after transfer; 12 days after HCG shot) and it came back faint positive; think it is still the HCG shot in there? MY BT is not until 9/8

by nikki10, Sep 03, 2007 12:52PM
To: guiness413
Take it again in the moring and see if its still Positive sounds really hopeful CONGRATS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by 40smama, Sep 03, 2007 03:25PM
To: guinness413, all in
Hi - I guess from reading all of our posts that most of us are guilty about taking the hpt before our blood test.   I agree w/nikki; wait until the morning and see what it shows.  Good luck!

All in- are you staying sane?  It's hard not to go crazy, huh.  I go crazy everytime I have to go in for blood work so you're in good company.   You don't have too many more days to go - keep us posted and much ssbd to both of you (I just recently learned what that meant)!

by nikki10, Sep 03, 2007 03:41PM
To: 40smama
what does ssbd mean ..

Okay, I am losing it I want to go to the clinic for a blood draw,I know the Dr. there and I know she would do a beta for me, I think I have lost it for real, took another HPT BFN again I have been so upset all day

by 40smama, Sep 03, 2007 04:05PM
To: nikki
SSBD means I think super sticky baby dust.  I didn't know what it meant either until the other day when on another thread I asked and one of the girls explained it to me.

Try to be calm - you've got a ways to go before 9/10.  It does sound though that the hcg from the injection is out of your system.  Did you transfer 3 days or 5 post retrieval?  I know that it's easier said than done to stay calm but, a nice lady told me to read "The Secret" & a close friend made a visualization board so I'd visualize hearing the nurse saying congratulations and stuff like that.  Do you honestly think that getting a beta at this point is a good idea?  What I mean is would it make you crazy if it came back bfn?  That's what kept me from cheating until the very last day because I knew that if it did, I'd seriously go nuts and take my whole family (and maybe this forum! lol) with me.  I hear you about losing it - I just want you not to stress too much.  Keep posting & maybe that will ease the craziness.    If, however, it would relieve your mind to take the beta, then by all means do it & maybe again in a few days, but do give it time.  I know how bad you want this to work & ivf is a big, big deal.  All of the emotional and physical stress from going through it makes one feel crazy.  HANG IN THERE!!!  I'm pulling for ya!

by nikki10, Sep 03, 2007 04:23PM
To: 40smama
I wont go get the beta I don't want them to think I am crazy which at this point they would.  I am trying to chill and think good thoughts its I have been so emotional today which is out of the norm for me (i don't cry even at funerals) I have been fighting back tears all day , I know it will work I know Maddie, and Ava will be fine (thats what I named the embies)  o.k Positive thinking only

thanks so much for all your help

by nikki10, Sep 03, 2007 05:02PM
To: 40smama

Opps forgot to answer your first question

I did the 5day transfer the Dr. said the embies were the healthiest he's seen and he and the nurse were convinced that we would have twins ..???

by 40smama, Sep 03, 2007 05:50PM
To: nikki10
You're not crazy because if you are I don't know what that would make the rest of us (especially me).  I think the doc on this forum said probably all of the emotional stuff that we're all feeling is probably the hormones (that old excuse again), sigh.  And by the way, I think Maddie & Ava are lovely names.  I would use Maddie except I have a niece named Madison and Ava is equally pretty.  I call my embie Tadpole.  Isn't that terrible!

It sounds like you're on the right road.  Post me back when you want or if you're going nuts again.  I know there were a lot of women who were there for me during my wait & I'd like to return the favor.  Keep up that positive thinking!

by nikki10, Sep 03, 2007 06:26PM
To: 40smama
I am on the positive role and leaving my embies in god's hands I know it will be fine, I have pics of babies next to my computer.  I cant wait to find out and spread the great news, its all positive from here on out and NO more HPT.  My sister in law actually took a HPT for 7 days after her scheduled AF and it came up neg each time, then she went to the dr. for a kidney infection and she was actually PREG.  She is now due any day so anything can happen it just goes to show.

Thanks for the support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nikki10, Sep 03, 2007 06:33PM
To: 40smama
Love the name Tadpole !!!  And maddie is Madalyn..  How do you know its one tadpole and not more???

by 40smama, Sep 03, 2007 10:02PM
To: nikki
yeah it's only one cuz the embryologist (sp?) talked us into only one.  I love that story about your sister in law!  That's so encouraging for all of us.  And I especially love the name Madalyn - I'd love to use it except for the niece thing.  You're doing so good - I'm proud of you - now just for a little sleep huh?!  It'd be nice wouldn't it- you keep go on w/your bad self girl & keep it up w/all of that positive thinking - I'm visualizing positive results for you!

by nikki10, Sep 04, 2007 05:26AM
To: 40smama
I will let you know how my Dr.s app. is in the morning as for today i am keeping high hopes and will throw myself into work all day that way I wont be worrying all day!!!  I am not even temped to do a HPT weird.  My only complaint is my back is on fire and my bb's hurt so bad I can hardly walk or sleep.  I know side effects for the Meds but really bothering..  Have a good one and talk to you soon !!  Ps did you read that one posting were the girls sister got a neg HPT the night before her BT and both preg. that happened and both she had actually was preg. and had healthy babies very encouraging !!!!

by ltillots, Sep 04, 2007 12:42PM
To: everyone
40smama--I mean 3 babies.  I transfered back 3 days after my retreival.

nickki10--the having to pee a lot will slow down--I was in the same delima, I used to never get up at night and all of a sudden I was up everynight...now it is only once and awhile.

You guys crack me up w/ the nicknames for the embies.  I have not came up withone, just baby xy.  You make me think of the "The Belly Book" it is a neat book that my sister found and I am thinking of getting.  It takes you through all the weeks of your pregnancy and asks questions throughout.  it asks things like "What are nicknames you call your baby"  What sex do you think it will be--boy; girl; or boxer"--love that one.  They are funny and serious questions through out.  I recommend everyone check it out.

by nikki10, Sep 04, 2007 12:57PM
To: itillots
Did you take a Hpt before your beta>?  what was the result? I love our embies names gives us something do LoL ..  I know both mine are girls so thats why I had their names already in place..  

by 40smama, Sep 04, 2007 01:18PM
To: nikki, itillots
Yeah I read that post - it gave me such hope!  I'm so glad that you're doing better - you sound great!  So the Belly Book - I love that name.  I'm going out right now and buy it (or find it on the internet) - you guys take care & oh itillots when's your u/s?  Keep us posted :-)!

by guinness413, Sep 04, 2007 05:40PM
To: everyone
so I took another test, (swore I wouldn't do that) and still faint positive; think that is no good? I am sad

by nikki10, Sep 04, 2007 07:04PM
To: guiness413
Dont feel bad a faint positive is better then a BFN and I swore no more tests and I just got back from target with three boxes of them, my thinking behind it was they are on sale (hello, I have lost it ))    Wishing you tons of baby dust and hope !!!  Put your faith in God and he will work it out!!!!

by guinness413, Sep 04, 2007 07:53PM
To: nikki10
I know; I just did the same thing. When do you take your blood test?

by nikki10, Sep 04, 2007 08:42PM
To: guiness413
I take mine next Monday ages from now !!!

by guinness413, Sep 04, 2007 09:04PM
To: nikki10
mine is Sat

by guinness413, Sep 05, 2007 07:59AM
To: everyone
so I tested again this am and still very faint; is this doom and gloom? HCG shot was 14 days ago but line not getting darker however I used a different brand name this time

by tjean, Sep 05, 2007 12:14PM
To: guinness413
Hi there.  I have been searching for a board of crazy women like me who are obcessed with POAS...  I am so glad I found you guys!!

My 5dt was on 9/2 and my doctor says she will do my beta on the 12th, and the clinic wants it on the 16th.  I assure you I will not be able to resist POASing starting at about 5dpt.  I did not have a HSG injection, so no fear of a false positive.

About the faint line not getting darker...  My last pregnancy the same thing happened.  I was convinced that I was miscarrying because it was not getting darker.  I even went it to my OBs office [was natural conception] and my doctor had me do another POAS and again it was faint, so he sent me home telling me I was going to miscarry.  OMG, I was so depressed and I cried and cried and cried.  Then, my period never came.  Hello, it should come in the next few days, right?  Well, a week later, nothing, so I went to get a beta.  I was pregnant with low numbers, but they were doubling and doubling and the pregnancy was good.  So, don't worry about faint lines, go get that beta.  And if the numbers are on the low side, don't freak as long as they are doubling, that is all you need.

Good Luck!!

by guinness413, Sep 05, 2007 12:50PM
To: Tjean
Thanks!  Maybe it is too soon too. The same thing happened with my son (naturally conceived).  My #s did not double 48 hrs, turns out I doubled like every 72 hours, and they told me I would more than likely miscarry but 3 1/2 years later I have a beautiful son so I know you are right but the whole IVF process is so mentally draining and I should just stop testing since it is out of my hands now anyway

by nikki10, Sep 05, 2007 01:28PM
To: guiness413
went to the Dr. today my hormone level is excellent I tried to convince them into a beta level (which I think they did anyways).  They didn't give in so now I am waiting till Monday.  I wouldn't worry do you see how many people do the IVF and have NEG hpt and are actually  prego !!!  PUT THE STICK DOWN !!!! LOL

by guinness413, Sep 05, 2007 01:43PM
thanks; did you?  ha ha  why did you go to the dr this week? I went 3 days post transfer?

by nikki10, Sep 05, 2007 01:54PM
To: guiness413
I am putting the stick down swear, I have been making every excuse to pee on those things and really thats crazy, so I am taking control and going to wait it out...  I did go 4 days post transfer and my progestrone was low so they increased it and I am fine now, but had a re-check today ,...  So we will see what happens !!! Keep us updated please do tell what happens Saturday, I will keep u posted also !!!!

by tjean, Sep 05, 2007 02:22PM
To: POAS Addicts
Ok guys, I have a funny story that only truly obsessed POASers can appreciate.  In hind sight, it is funny, but at the time, it was NOT funny at all.  In fact, I was pis*ed.

So we are doing IVF because I carry a rare genetic disorder, and we do not want to pass it on to our children.  We have had a very tragic and sad history, but I won't bore you all with that.  To get to the funny story...  Their has to be humor in some of this, or I surly would just die from all the sadness...

Last year, we did our first IVF cycle and we did PGD to test for the problem before the transfer... Oh, one detail you have to know...  I have been pregnant 4 times naturally, but due to the problem lost the pregnancies... So, everytime, I have been pregnant, I got a BFP 10 days exactly after ovulation...  I am like clock work.  So, 10 days after the transfer, I started peeing...  BFN  BFN

After I went through the first box of tests, I actually went to the drug store with my husband that night and bought 3 other brands [9 more tests] that had worked in the past.  It must have been the tests that were faulty. Right?

You should have seen me the next morning, I was like a crack addick peeing on every one, and each time a negative.  I held one of each brand under the stream all at the same time.  Imagine me on the toilet and A LOT of wrappers all around me with sticks lined up on the floor.  I was desperate.  I was going to will the line.  If I peed enough, I would get one, Right???  I held my pee until lunch and repeated, and then again at dinner time.  I was so pissed that the tests were not working!!  Hello!!  They weren't working because I was not pregnant.  

At the time [and even today a little] I was thinking, hey I get pregnant super easy on my own, why am I not pregnant now.  I just paid like 25k for this and it can't be that I am not pregnant.  I mean I can get pregnant on my own.  Women who cannot get pregnant on their own get pregnant using IVF, why didn't I...  It was a bad bad time to be in my head, but rest assured, all those thoughts have since worked their way out... :)

I was even optimistic when I went in for the beta, believing that I had to be pregnant.  Can we say a little psycho??

What is your funniest [in hindsight] story with POAS??  Are there any fellow crack POASers??  :)

Hopefully, I will not repeat that on this cycle!!  Staying positive, and in reality!!

by guinness413, Sep 05, 2007 02:26PM
To: tjean
what is POAS?

by tjean, Sep 05, 2007 02:28PM
To: guinness413
Pee on a stick or taking a home pregnancy test [HPT]

by all in, Sep 05, 2007 04:12PM
To: everyone
Hi...im back. This past weekend was really hard for me since I did another hpt and bfn...had an emotional breakdown with by husband at my side. Ivf is such a roller coaster ride. I finally dragged myself out of  the house on Monday and picked up the book "The Secret" (thanks 40smama for mentioning it earlier to nikki). It really helped me to put things in perspective and to start being thankful of things I do have now and know that I am doing my best whatever the outcome. I too have started visualizing the positive outcome whether its our time now or later.

My blood test is tomorrow and I wont get the results till Friday.  Im nervous but not an emotional wreck like i was.

Thanks for the ssbd, and its very reassuring hearing so many stories about the hpt not being so accurate as it states.

Tjean, great story...I had no problem visualizing that since I was about to do the same thing.

by all in, Sep 05, 2007 04:18PM
To: everyone
Speaking of naming the transfers...we weren't as creative as you all and call them the "m's".

by 40smama, Sep 05, 2007 07:11PM
How's everyone doing?  All in, I'm glad that you're doing okay.  That book I thought at first was crazy, but it's very sweet and reminds me of an old book my mom and dad read called The Power of Positive Thinking (I even read it way, way back then).  Good luck on your test and much ssbd to you and to everyone testing Saturday or Monday!  Hang in there!  

by nikki10, Sep 05, 2007 07:25PM
To: everyone
Hey my dr. ripped me a new today so stay focused and positive, he said do not ever rely on the hPT cuz with what we are all doing the only way to really know is the Beta.  So we have to stop being addicts and wait for the BETAS ( I know its a hard ) I am the biggest addict, like to say recovering LOL..  Also all in  we had a break down over the weekend together so don't feel to bad it will work out for us I have faith ...  Also the naming of the embies they were way pre-named like a year ago, I am crazy .... M's is a cute name !!!!!!   I will pray for your test in the morning

by nikki10, Sep 05, 2007 08:00PM
To: everyone
Thought I would share a quick story about my blood draw today (makes me afraid for the Beta draw Monday)

I went into the lab the nurse drew the standard one tube nothing different.  She puts the gauze and tape on my arm and I get up and start walking.  As I leave the lobby and parking lot people are staring at me like I am some freak .  I start to wonder whats going on.  I feel something warm on my finger its blood, my whole arm, one pant leg and purse are covered in blood.  The gauze and tape are soaked, I almost passed out.  I get the bleeding under control call up to the clinic because I am embarrassed to go back up with blood everywhere anyways they made me come back and determined my blood was thin today for some unknown reason.  I do find that hard to believe considering my arm is swollen and black and blue think it was the nurse.  

So actually I am not to excited about Mondays draw/..

by all in, Sep 05, 2007 08:38PM
To: 40smama, nikki10
thanks again...I can't tell you how comforting it feels to be able to share similar emotions. I too have read the book The Power of Positive Thinking. Sometimes it's so easy to forget and get so self consumed...during my melt down I totally forgot about my mom in laws bday on Sunday. I felt so selfish when I finally remembered, cause this is the first bday for my husband without her.

Yes, only two more sleeps and then we'll know...can you sense the nervousness and excitement all at the same time.

Nikki, good luck with your Monday's draw (ssbd). I don't blame you for being nervous! just in case you get the same nurse, maybe wear black.

I'll be saying a prayer for all of you.

by guinness413, Sep 06, 2007 11:01AM
To: everyone
Anyone feeling especially bloated and gassy? I am in such pain and the nurse thinks it is is from the progesterone?

by nikki10, Sep 06, 2007 11:34AM
To: everyone
Have a problem since the transfer I can't sleep I toss and turn and  once I am sleeping I have horrible dreams that wake me up.  This have been ongoing since the transfer any suggestions !!!!

by ltillots, Sep 06, 2007 01:09PM
To: 40smama nikki10
my first letter is a lower case L.  :)  I did sneak a peak with a hpt 3 days before my blood test and it came up positive (I actually took one each next day).  I go for my u/s tomorrow--I AM SO EXCITED!!  
tjean--OMG they actually told you you would miscarry!!  I find that mean!!  
nikki10--it sounds like the blood was because of the asprin you are probably taking.  I know they told me that I need to remind my husband to hold the cotton ball a little longer when they got done with the IV during the retreival...maybe it is that?  I tossed and turned because I was in such pain due to the retrieval and after I found out I was pg, they said that my body was producing hcg which was feeding any small follicals they didn't take...and also the asprin was making my uterus expand due to the extra blood being sent to it....so maybe these are all good signs for you.
guinness413--that is the same reason for gassy/bloatedness that my IVF coordinator told me...I ended up pg so good luck to you (and everyone else)!!!

by guinness413, Sep 06, 2007 01:24PM
To: everyone
thanks but I feel like hell and don't sleep either

ltillots, when are you due? when was your blood test

by alaskacouple, Sep 06, 2007 02:37PM
To: everyone
First of all, I am glad to find a site like this. I am not an avid blogger....  Let me introduce my family: me, 35, hubby 36.  We have been trying for over 10 years to get pregnant. We have over the past 9 years, done 7 IUI's with no success. Then, 11 months ago we decided to do ivf.  When I met with a new doctor (got tired of the old one, as he no longer "listened" to me).  At our first meeting, the first ultra sound we discovered a 2 inch cyst on my left ovary (hadn't seen a ob/gyn in 3 years - I was tired of them all!) - so off to a different doctor to take care of that. As it turned out, it was an Endometrioma, AND I had endo everywhere!  My doctor said from the amount that I had, I had had it for at least 10 years!!!!!  So, all those IUI's and $$ for nothing!
Well, all of that was taken care of in February.  And we did our first IVF, hcg shot on August 22, retrieval on August 23 at 11:30pm, ICSI done (because of low motility and low count) August 24 at 2:30am, embro transfer of two blastocysts done on August 29.  My poor hubby is sticking me in the rear everynight with 1ml of progesterone (in oil).   I have tons of questions and would some opinions, please!
For about the last 6 days, I have had cramps, and I feel full - lets just say my pants don't fit!  Is this normal, and is it because of the hormones or maybe pg???
I have had a slight fever for the last 4 days, ranging from 99.1 to 100.1.... is this normal?  Anyone else experience a fever with + results?  I took some tylenol to help
I wake up with a headache, and by about 5pm, it is a killer!  I don't get the shot until 8:30 at night. Help!  
I have woken up twice in the last 4 days with horrible night sweats.... interpretations?????
I am suppose to do my beta tomorrow 9/7.  Is that too soon to get a positive?  How soon would a positive show in beta?

by nikki10, Sep 06, 2007 04:41PM
To: alaskacouple
Cramps are good could mean your lil beans are implanting/.  Pants not fitting is probably bloating from the egg retrieval and shots ect,...   With the fever I would call the Dr. to make sure thats o.k. and it may be normal but I would double check.  I think a beta would show up but not really sure as I had my transfer on 8/27 and they are not doing the Beta until 9/10..  

SSBD to you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by alaskacouple, Sep 06, 2007 05:24PM
To: nikki10
Thanks for the info.  So, we are about two days apart?  Your lil beans were 5 days old also?  
Lots and Lots of baby dust to you too!!!!!!!!

by nikki10, Sep 06, 2007 05:28PM
To: alaskacouple
Yes they were 5 days old both girls !!!!

Did you get pictures of your little beans ??  We did and I just wondered if anyone else did ???

by alaskacouple, Sep 06, 2007 05:33PM
To: nikki10
Also forgot to add, spoke with the Doctor: monitor the temp, and if it rises, call back.  And, they changed my beta to 9/10 (local ob/gyn not open on the weekends to do blood draw).  

by alaskacouple, Sep 06, 2007 05:39PM
To: everyone
Yep, their very first pictures - posted to the front of the fridge - praying to the fertility gods everytime we get a snack or drink!  Don't know what they are gender wise....
My husband swore off his favorite baseball team winning the series if the gods will answer our prayers :-)  He is so sweet!!!!  Won't let me do anything, DARN - no vacuuming, no lifting laundry...aww shucks!

by tjean, Sep 06, 2007 05:45PM
To: everyone
Alaskacouple - I would check about the temp too...  I can't believe you went through all of that for NOTHING!  I am pissed for you!!  Something similar happened to me...  I feel bloated and full too.  I have lots of movement down there too.  This morning I felt like I was going to start my period and then it went away.  Then this afternoon, I had pains that remind me of pre-ovulation pains, little pains on the side, not dead center...  Who knows what is happening in there.  I am feeling way more activity down there than I did with my last cycle which failed.  But, I was not injecting progesterone or taking estrogen either, so it could be related to that.  I am taking the cramping etc...  as a good sign.  

Oh, and I am bloated too, much more than a period would normally bring. We had our transfer on 9/2 of 2 blasts.  Today is 4dpt, and I am dying!!  We test on 9/12 for HCG, so I think your dates look right, but if you get a negative, you could test again in a few days.  My doctor is testing me 10 days after transfer and the clinic is asking me to come in 14 days post transfer.  So, I think anywhere between 10-14 should be ok, but I am no expert.

I went to get b/w today to check my progesterone levels.  I should be hearing sometime soon if I have to increase or decrease...  I am taking 2mg of oral estrogen in the morning and at night + 2cc of progesterone at night.  I hope they are not going to increase things, geez, can you imagine that darned shot getting any bigger??  I already cringe when I load it up!

Positve Thoughts!!  Positive Thoughts!!
I bought hpts today, shhhh....

by alaskacouple, Sep 06, 2007 05:53PM
To: tjean
hpts are the devil!!!  They bring your hopes down if they are negative, and I am not sure if I would ever trust a positive.  I say this because I cheated on 9/4... I took one and it was negative.  Talk about a bummer day!  But then I read messages and have felt better.  
Please tell me progesterone doesn't make you pee!!! I swear, when I drink water (trying to be healthy) I am in the bathroom half hour later!  
I have the cramps, I have the twitchy feeling - like something is going on also, but no soore bbs, and I am not sure what is making me nauseas, the drugs or my beans (think +++++++++).  Hey, I can handle the sickness if it gets us our dream(s). :-)

by tjean, Sep 06, 2007 05:57PM
We have pictures too.  But, they just gave us one card that had all 13 fertilized on there so we could see the blasts and the ones that did not make it.  The two they transferred were pointed out + the ones they frozen.

Alaskacouple, you husband and mine are one in the same.  Not so much on the housework, but giving up the fav team, yep, right on the nose.  He has a HUGE budda at the entrance of his office.  Over the years he has made several deals with the budda.  I have no idea what kind of deal he is making with him about this cycle, but I can just imagine.  I keep telling him he is going to hell for such bargaining.  I don't blame him though, I might take the risk too if it meant that I did not have to see my wife cry another tear.

Positive Thoughts!!

by nikki10, Sep 06, 2007 08:54PM
To: all
Is anyone experiencing stomach problems as soon as I eat it goes right through me its horrible.I am spending most the day in the bathroom..  I am also getting a sinus infection and feel completely drained.  MY bb's are sore and my back right at my tailbone is killing me.  I wasn't sure if anyone else is feeling any of these symptoms and if they are good or from the MEDS....

Best of luck to all
alaskacouple-   our beta is the same day i will say a prayer for you and let you know on Monday the results

by guinness413, Sep 07, 2007 08:15AM
To: everyone
well I caved again and took anothet test because my boobs were not hurting anymore and it came out darker then the last few days but you think something is up? My BT is tomorrow? Am I being paranoid? I took some Rolaids for the bloating and felt a little better

by mommameya, Sep 07, 2007 09:28AM
To: everyone
hello all, thought I did a post however can't remember the forum. Anywho, I was inquiring about doing a HPT. I had a FET on 8/25. Four grade 1( grade A for some) w/ assisted hatching. I'm 12 dpt with a scheduled HcG on 9/10. Taking progestone injection, prometrium suppositories, and estrace. I'm really anxious and can't wait after reading all your entries. Do you think I can test?????

That entry was yesterday.

NEW REPORT........Took HPT this am and it was positive. Im so excited. I couldn't go back
to sleep. I'm really anxious now.....is this a good test or should wait for comfirmation on monday?

by alaskacouple, Sep 07, 2007 11:10AM
To: everyone
Okay...okay.... I caved... my beta is not until 9/10, but I took a hpt this morning, negative.  Has anyone had a negative 9dpt (with 5day blastocysts), and still had a positive beta?  I am really upset by this....

by tjean, Sep 07, 2007 11:19AM
To: Everyone
Mommameya - Congratulations!!  a line is a line!!  I think it is a good positive, but confirmation of good numbers and doubling numbers is what the blood work is for.  After that of course, the heartbeat[s].  I think this is a good sign, and I think you should be excited, keeping in mind of course this is just step one to getting a positive!!

by tjean, Sep 07, 2007 11:28AM
Alaskacouple- I would not give up hope.  I read on this very thread about that happening, don't dispair!!  I have all my fingers crossed for you and positive thoughts going your way!

SSBD to you!!

by nikki10, Sep 07, 2007 11:46AM
To: all
I am out this round I believe I took another HPT is was a BFN and its 11ptd.  My blood test is Monday so that's the last hope...

by alaskacouple, Sep 07, 2007 11:54AM
To: nikki10 & everyone!
let's you and I hold out for hope on Monday and think +++++++++++++..... I did a little research and most hpt monitor hcg above 25.  First response is suppose to be the best, and measure lower, but according to one website, "First Response Early Result is a test that claims you can test before your period is due. Calls to the company about the hCG level detected have been answered with "no comment" or "privileged" information. Now there is an article on the First Response web site saying the test can read a level of 6.3. An e-mail to the FDA about the test received a reply of 25 mIU, but this is not in the customer-searchable database. When it came out, a couple of people e-mailed FertilityPlus to say that the new test detects 15-20 mIU. So far we have had several people report false-positives, faulty tests, and several who have been pleased with early and very early detection . .

SSBD TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by nikki10, Sep 07, 2007 12:01PM
To: alaskacouple
I know but I think a lot of people even here get the BFP when they actually take and I am due for blood in 3 days and still getting the BFN so I just don't want to get my hopes up to high and be devastated ... SSBD to you...

by tjean, Sep 07, 2007 12:16PM
To: Nikki & Alaska
We all have to proceed cautiously and not get our hopes up.  For me, I try to stay in the middle: not negative and not positive until the final answer has been given to me [a healthly baby in my arms].  Don't give up hope, and don't dive into the darkness either.  Try to stay calm and nuetral.  My perspective is this...  Why get upset today, when you have 3 more days of ignorance, 3 more days of not knowing the good or bad news to have hope and fear...  I mean why cloud it with negative thoughts when there is a possibility it would have been for nothing and you'll never get those 3 days back to change the negative thoughts, you would have ruined those three days for nothing.  I believe if it is good news, you would have wished to know earlier, but it is bad news, you wouldn't mind knowing until the last second possible.  in other words, why cry when there is nothing to cry about yet.  Just hold on tight and try to stay nuetral, I know it is hard.  In fact, it is easier to write this to you than to do it myself.  I am sending all the positive vibes I can to you both.

I have everything double crossed for us all, even those with BFPs and with heartbeats...

by guinness413, Sep 07, 2007 01:11PM
To: everyone
Does anyone get symptoms that come and go?

by tjean, Sep 07, 2007 03:10PM
To: guinness413
I totally get symptoms that come and go.  In the beginning of past pregnancies, the same thing happened too.  It use to drive me nutty until I figured out that was my body.  I used to pinch my boobs to see if they still hurt a little since they were not as sore that day as they had been.  The same is happening to me in this cycle too, so I am hoping that is +++ good news.  The symptoms will get worse, so be thankful they are coming and going.  If you completely feel better and it is before 11 or 12 weeks, you feel like a "normal" person again, then worry, but for now, enjoy the reprieve!!

by guinness413, Sep 07, 2007 03:39PM
To: tjean
are you officially pregnant now?

by tjean, Sep 07, 2007 04:41PM
To: guinness413
My test isn't until 9/12 so nothing is official until that day I suppose.  I got a faint line today, but I think that is ok since I am only 5dpt.  I can't expect a dark line this early. I am hopeful.  When I get a darker line like you, I will be more hopeful.

Good luck tomorrow!  I can't wait to hear your numbers.

by all in, Sep 07, 2007 05:25PM
To: 40smama, nikki10, everyone
Well, I got the results of the blood test and BFN...we are very sad.  I have called the clinic to be put back on the list for another cycle which takes two to four months.

What I've learned from this first time and the agonizing two week wait is that although hpt's aren't totally accurate I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting to know. Ours were negative on all three so I kind of felt like things were not going to work for us this time but I do know that only a blood test can really confirm it.

Next time, I know I will most likely do hpt's but I think it will be easier cause I know each step of the way.

Good luck to you all and happy pregnancies!

by nikki10, Sep 07, 2007 05:37PM
To: all in
all in I am so sorry I was wishing the best for you.  Hope you Get your BFP next time around.  This was my first time also and I am also expecting the BFN as all the HPTS have come back BFN.  I am not sure if we will try again or wait awhile its a really hard process not what I expected at all.   SSBD to you !!!!!!!

by guinness413, Sep 07, 2007 09:24PM
To: everyone
I agree that it is a very difficult thing to do and on paper it all sounds so easy. I do not know if I am pregnant or not because didn't people on this blog say that sometimes you can get false positives?

by ltillots, Sep 07, 2007 11:17PM
To: guinness413 all in
My due date is 4-29.  I just had my ultrasound today.  My sister pointed out that it looks just like a tick (sac and all) so she is going to call it 'tick'.  Next time they hope to be able to put the pictures and sound on DVD for me so I can e-mail it to family and friends.  

I had a fever for a day--and I came out with a positve reading.  :)

all in  I am so sorry to hear about it not working.  More luck next time.  I can not believe it takes 2-4 months to start your cycle again.  We told our Doc we were ready and he started the bc that month so he'd have control of my cycle the next.

by 40smama, Sep 08, 2007 04:01AM
To: all in, itillots, everyone else
I'm so sorry about your bfn.  Gosh, I'm w/itillots and see if your re can get you on bc pills asap so he/she can start charting your cycle.  On my 1st ivf cycle, we had to terminate it almost at the very end and it was so sad.  However, it WILL happen - I've got a good feeling about it!

Good luck to all of ya'll that are testing on the 10th.  I agree that it might be too early to test on an hpt;  check out peeonastick.com &  they'll have more info about them (hpts)

Itillots - congrats on your u/s.  Mine is next week; however, my progesterone that was tested today fell 6 points to a 33 - the nurse said that was fine - but she's new & so I'm being paranoid.

by idba8mom, Sep 08, 2007 05:50AM
To: everyone
hello to all!  I found this site last night and it is so awesome. It's great to hear about everyone's different experience with the meds, the hpts,systoms and it is great to have the support.                      

by idba8mom, Sep 08, 2007 06:03AM

by idba8mom, Sep 08, 2007 06:18AM
To: all
This is as our second attempt with the add first one being negative.   I am had to my egg transfer on 9/1/07 and had some bloodwork yesterday. They  called me  with the results and asked me to the add 2 more estrogen  patches so I  am wearing 3 now and to continue 1cc of progesterone daily. I too  have experienced some bloating,cramping and making several trips to the restroom. I didnt experience this the first time so hopingfor the best.  I am not putting myself through the hpts this time.  It causes more stress and emotional anguish.  Best of luck to all the hopeful mothers!                              

by guinness413, Sep 08, 2007 07:33AM
To: everyone
I woke up with a white ring around my belly button that was sort of raised? Think this is bad?

by idba8mom, Sep 08, 2007 08:38AM
To: guiness413
Are u having any other reaction? Itchy? Pain?    

by nikki10, Sep 08, 2007 09:40AM
To: idba8mom
At my appointment the RE had me increase my meds to, so I wouldn't worry to much Good Luck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  SSBD

by idba8mom, Sep 08, 2007 12:05PM
To: nikki10
thanks nikki! I get my final results on the 9/17/07. I have been off from work for a week now and resting one more.My husband is spoiling me which I cant say no too.  8-)   Nikki,when do you find out? Or are you pregnant already?  Been trying to read back but  doing  it  from my pcs so thought I would just ask you. A lot faster.    

by SDScientist, Sep 08, 2007 02:49PM
I am sorry, I know I am totally cutting in on your thread here, but I am freaking out and it seems like  many of you are near the same place I am in the process.  I had a 3d transfer on 8/31.  I want to take an hpt so bad, but I am too chicken.  Bets isn't until 9/14.  This is our second IVF and I am not ready to see another negative.  I have no symptoms other than on and off very mild cramping.  I am hoping it is just b/c my progesterone and estrogen have been so high (193 and 1197) since 3 days after the transfer that my body is not seeing anything new and has gotten used to it.  I am still freaked out about the levels, even though the nurse said they were good, b/c I cannot find anyone whose levels were so high so soon.  Thanks for letting me cut in. :)  

by tjean, Sep 08, 2007 04:07PM
To: Everyone
So I took an HPT Friday morning and got a faint line, you know the one you have to half imagine until you find it?  Ok, so on Thursday, my nurse called me and told me that my hormone levels looked really good, like things were moving in the right direction...  So, based on that, I POAS on Friday morning.  The doctor did not lecture me about POAS, so I thought...  I'll take it in and show the nurse some more "moving in the right direction" news when I go in for my injection of progesterone...  I was afraid I was going to get a lecture, but I didn't!!  I was so thankful.  Anyway, the doctor was so excited over my faint line that she ordered a beta right then!!  I got it back this morning, and the level was 16 at 5dpt.  I read that a few people were debating the sensitivity of the tests etc...  I used First Responce Early Test.  I tested again today and now it is a faint line with no imagination needed.  My doctor was very pleased with that number and told me as long as it doubles on Monday, everything is good.  I am finally excited that this might finally be my turn!!

SSBD to everyone waiting!!!

by nikki10, Sep 08, 2007 07:05PM
To: idba8mom
I get my beta on Monday.  I was at a friends b-day party tonight and there was  a girl there who had three natural preg.  and through all of them tested neg. on a HPT so I am hopeful, I also read a forum were a dr. posted that many of his patients test neg and are actually pregnant , a few even had betas over 200 and still didn't show up I think it depends how each persons body is??? so that was relieving .. Keep the fingers crossed

by idba8mom, Sep 08, 2007 10:43PM
To: nikki10
I decided not to do any hpts this second time around but of course i am dying to do one.  what symptoms have you had? I will say a prayer for you. my husband and i went to our local mall today and i have been cramping a lot-from walking I guess. my appointment is a week from yours.let me know how it goes.stay positive. SSBD!!!      

by nikki10, Sep 09, 2007 07:23AM
To: idba8mom
I have a lot of cramping, sore bb's, crazy dreams and just bloated feeling, although those could all be symptoms of the meds, also I will let everyone know tomorrow , I hoping even though getting the BFN that's the blood will be a BFP ....  

by guinness413, Sep 09, 2007 10:50AM
To: everyone
Well my blood test was yesterday and thank goodness for now it was positive but noe sure exactly what the #s mean anymore since my son is 3 1/2 and I kind of forget but the nurse said they were fine; 200 HCG, 143 Progesterone and 2000 or so Estradiol. Does that sound ok? Now the real worry happens since historically I have issues from now to 8 weeks so I guess I have to pray real hard that all goes well. Just when you think you have run out of things to worry about. I was feeling lousy yesterday but now feel better so now I'll probably worry about that and every other dya when I give blood. I wish everyone luck and thanks for all of the support

by tjean, Sep 09, 2007 02:22PM
To: Guinness413
Congratulations!!  I wish you the best of luck until you are past 8 weeks. I think that 200 is a great number. I don't know much about the other levels, but the nurse said they were fine, so that does sound reassuring!!

You could check out this website to compare it to when you tested...

http://www.webwomb.com/hpt_levels_hcg_levels.htm

I think 10 dpo is = to 5dpt of blasticyst

Congratulations!!!  SSBD!!!

by guinness413, Sep 09, 2007 06:41PM
To: tjean
thnaks and good luck to you and keep us posted too. I am a worry wart since all the thnigs that have happened to me in the past but as soon as I feel no symptoms, which I know borders on neurotic, I get nervous

by alaskacouple, Sep 10, 2007 11:36AM
To: nikki10
bfn!  I started cramping over the weekend really bad.  My beta was suppose to be today, but my cycle came full force on Sunday 9/9 and hpt was BFN!  Good luck to you!!!!

by nikki10, Sep 10, 2007 01:42PM
To: alaskacouple
I had my Beta this morning still waiting for the results I called the dr. office they said the results were in but they needed to consult DR???????  I am so sorry for you Hope all works out down the road

by idba8mom, Sep 10, 2007 02:58PM
To: nikki10
hey nikki,any news? I prayed for you and hope you get a positive result. SSBD!!!        

by nikki10, Sep 10, 2007 03:27PM
To: ida8mom
It was a BFN the doctors are so surprised they thought for sure it would have worked.  they said the embryos were excellent and so was my uterus...  They are willing to try again as soon as AF comes so we will see....  

by guinness413, Sep 10, 2007 03:32PM
To: nikki10
so sorry; next month it will work for sure

by idba8mom, Sep 10, 2007 04:52PM
To: nikki10
I am really sorry to hear that. Did u tell them about all your symptoms? hang in there. did u freeze any embryos? today I feel really blah and feeling like I am going to get my period . I got a letter from our doc just letting me know they were able to freeze 2 embryos. we are praying for good news but we know we have 1 more opportunity. are you emotionally and physically ready to give it one more try?                                  

by alaskacouple, Sep 10, 2007 05:14PM
To: nikki10
I am sorry for your news.  Hang in there.....eventually the baby dust has to fall onto us!  Sending positive vibes and thoughts your way....  :-)
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