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by pray4us, Oct 22, 2007 02:12PM

To: Panda404

I had my BPT today and it was Positive! I was talking to the Nurse and I explained the anxiety I had been having the past few days the home test. She said that is all normal. I told her that reading how so many of you know all the levels and terms was making me feel like I did not ask enough questions. She said sometimes knowing less is better, I was a basket case all day until the results. I say hold out and it will all work out. I will keep checking in on you.

PS A lot of my signs stopped mid last week except for the mild cramping, she said that was a good thing!

by mwtlgray, Oct 22, 2007 03:28PM

This is our 3rd attempt at IVF. The first 2 were both fresh transfers with the HCG trigger shot. They both have failed. This time I had a frozen blastocyte transfer, but was only able to transfer one blastocyte. I have been taking HPT and they have all been negative, so my mood is really down right now.

I had my transfer on 10/12 and today is the 10th day so I really feel like I should be seeing a positive result by now if I was pregnant. I am not having any symptons, other than some mild cramping on my left side. I am so depressed right now. I'm sure many of you know how I am feeling, after several failed attempts, it just seems like its never going to happen.

I go wed. for my BPT so I will know for sure then. I am having a hard time staying positive. Does anyone have any words of encouragement for me right now, or have stories of negative HPT up to the day of BPT and then the BPT being positive?

by diamommy, Oct 23, 2007 06:39PM

by Panda404, Oct 24, 2007 10:00AM

To: pray4us

Dear pray4us:
thanks most kindly for your words....Since so many refernces have been made to prayer, I will just say that I am a bit of a lost sheep--but my family/support system really believes that the ultimate outcome of IVF is a spiritual matter. My Mom says that she has been praying for me to have the strength to accept whatever comes. her view is that "only He knows what is meant for you." I guess I do believe that. But yesterday through tears I could not help myself and asked" Please God, could you just let me have a shot at this?" I spoke a little later to my brother who said, "He knows how bad you want it--He is who put the desire in your heart." "So, won't He let me have it then?" My brother's response--"...what you can know is that even though you might not have your own child, you are always HIs child. That is what you CAN know." As you can see, these folks are more spiritually sophisticated than I am--probably because they are more disciplined about it! After a little while I felt a bit more peaceful, and I started to get my mind around the idea that whatever comes is meant to be. Later in the day, of course, I had another bout of anxiety. Despite my earlier resolve I ran out to the drugtore and bought HPTs. I took them all--4 of them--in a span of about 7 hours. They were all positive!!!! Naturally I was euphoric!!!!!!!! I had every reason to doubt ! I am 42, new dh, no children and LOTS of gyn problems. I hardly let myself dare to hope at all. Today, as I write this, it is my official blood test--but so close to the day, surely these HPT's--one day too early--cannot be wrong!!!!! I went in this morning to have the blood drawn walking on air. I told the nurse what I the HPT's yesterday had shown--I couldn't wipe the grin off my face. Her reply was: "because of your age, we gave you very large amounts of the Hcg trigger. Therefore, we would have expected a positive HPT from you during the entire 2ww--whether or not you were really pregnant. That's why we told you not to take one." So, I walked out to my car with the tears streaming again. I knew it was back to me and God again--we do the footwork, but no medical science can MAKE this happen. And just when you trust in it, you find that there's some loophole---some piece of info your forgot to factor in. So I guess hope is truly blind in the end. Only the phone call at 2PM today will tell whether this worked. I called my dh sobbing and told him about the powerful trigger shot that were most likely affecting my positive HPTs. Through my sobs I could hear him tell me--"don't worry...if this fails we will keep trying. All this test shows is how much longer your butt is going to have to act as a pin cushion. I love you and we will have a great life together no matter what." So, to make a long story short, I thought, "Thanks God, I'll take that." Child or no child, so many blessings are right in front of my face and for that I am thankful. So when the call comes today at 2 I will be ok, no matter what it means. Thanks for caring. I will post about the outcome.

by mwtlgray, Oct 24, 2007 11:24AM

To: Panda404

I really do hope your test is positive, I started crying as I read your entry. We are all truly blessed with what we already have. I get my results in half an hour and I already know they will be negative, as much as I really want it to be positive, I didnt get the HCG shot so I'm pretty sure i would be registering positive on a HPT if I were pregnant. It hurts so badly each time even if you are already prepared for the worst.
I to believe it is a spiritual thing as well and whatever is meant to be will be,
I hope that your BPT comes back positive and you are pregnant, good luck!

by ttcagain653, Oct 24, 2007 11:24AM

To: mwtlgray

I had so many negative home pregnancy tests that I now refuse to even buy them or have them at home! I make my husband buy them only when it's time to test. I am in my 2ww for my 3rd IUI...I have unexplained infertility. I won't take a HPT until at least 10/29...I might even wait longer than that! I feel even crazier than I have before about trying not to obsess over the 2 ww. It is SO HARD not to. I had a bad day on Monday and was overridden with anxiety. Anyway, I got pregnant with my 1st IUI and lost the baby at 9 wks. Then, I got pregnant with twins with my 2nd IUI and lost 1 of them at 9 wks but have an 11 month old from that IUI. With the 1st pregnancy, I had a lot of pregnancy signs, tons of discharge, increased appetite, etc. But, I lost the baby. When I was pregnant with twins, I had bad cramps and really thought that I was about to start my period. I had NO pregnancy signs to the extent that I said "screw this" (after paying cash for the IUI and meds) and went out to dinner with my husband and drank 2 glasses of wine. But, I ended up being pregnant (I took a test 2 days later). I guess what I'm trying to say is that you just never know. Don't give up hope. The most frustrating thing about infertility is that you have no control over when you're going to become a mom. It's just so emotional because it comes from a yearning that is so deep...and having everyone asking questions plus the meds don't help matters.

by mwtlgray, Oct 24, 2007 11:54AM

I am so sorry for all your losses, I am so emotional right now, I hope the third time is a charm for you and you are able to carry to full term.
My results came back and of course they were negative.
Our problem is the male factor, my husband has Cystic Fibrosis. I "supposidly"dont have any problems or atleast thats what they keep telling me. I am only 27, and this was our third attempt, so if his sperm are healthy and I am healthy why do I keep rejecting all the embyos? I am thinking about changing clinics. I dont really want to, but something has to change, they dont know why its not working on me and when I ask they just say they dont know. When I said I just feel like giving up there was no positive feedback just "oh well" I am lucky enough to be at a clinic with no waiting list and average stats, so I dont know what to do.
Thank you for sharing your story, I hope and pray that you are pregant this time and able to carry to full term. Good luck and thanks!

by WARDA2008, Oct 24, 2007 12:22PM

To: warda

HI IHAD MY TRANSFER ON 10/22 IT IS ONLY THREE DAYS THE FIRST TWO DAYS I HAD CRAMPS BUT TODAY I FEEL NOTHIGN IAM SO SCAR. IS ANY ONE HAVE ANY ADVICE.

by mwtlgray, Oct 24, 2007 12:38PM

To: warda

Try not to stress or worry, fight the temptation to take a HPT and stay posititve.
Take it easy and relax, and do things to keep your mind off of it. Good luck! I hope you get positive results!

by diamommy, Oct 24, 2007 01:48PM

I to took my BPT this morning. Can't seem to stop crying. This is our 3rd IVF first 2 with my eggs, really poor quality and very immature, this cycle is with donor eggs. The RE said my lining was beautiful and the donors eggs were great quality. 2 five day blasts were transfered (doctor says blasts have a 70% change of becoming a baby) 8 were frozen but the doctor transfered the 2 best ones. I took a HPT on 7dpt and 9dpt and both were negative. I sit here thinking how could they be negative, I'm the one with the crappy eggs, not the donor, plus my doctor really wanted me to transfer 1 embryo because my chances of having twins were 50%. He was so sure about this cycle and the donor eggs. So I am waiting until the phone rings for my results. These last 10 days have been the most stressful nerve racking days I have ever had, paying attention to every cramp or pain. Yes I have been crampy every day,sore boobs, twinging and pulling feelings, achiness in my groin and feel like I should have started my period every day. I am just wishing and praying it is positive although I am doubtful because why would I have 2 negative HPT. Does anyone know anyone who had negative pregnancy tests but positive BPT. Please by the grace of god let me know. I will find out this afternoon and post my results. Thanks

by mwtlgray, Oct 24, 2007 02:09PM

To: diamommy

Try not to stress out right now, you will know soon enough. And no matter how much you try to prepare yourself for the worst, it is still going to hurt like crazy when they give it to you, so there is no point in wasting the energy. Plus, there is still a chance that it is positive. The only symptoms I have had are menstrual cramps. Your breast being sore may be a good sign so dont give up hope yet.
I really hope you get good news! Good Luck and try to stay positive. Let us know how it turns out this afternoon.

by ttcagain653, Oct 24, 2007 03:26PM

To: mwtlgray

I'm so sorry that you got the BFN.  I will pray for you that you will hold your baby in your arms one day.  If you feel like you're going to be a mom and you know it in your heart, then I know that you will be.  I used to dream about my baby and picture holding him.  I really think that it helps to do this.  Also, I would pick out a Bible verse, write it down, and "Claim" it for myself.  I used to read it out in the waiting room and in the exam room.  It comforted me.  Anything helps!  I still get down on my knees in the exam rooms before the doctor comes in and pray for pregnancy and a full term healthy baby.  Infertility has brought me so much closer with God.
You sound like an ideal candidate for a successful fertility treatments.  It seems like they would be aggressive with you.  If you feel like you're unhappy with your RE, I would change practices.  The last thing that you need is to feel unsupported by your RE's practice.  Maybe you need to seek out one that has a more serious plan for getting you pregnant.  I live in a small town so I drive 2 hours to my doctor in Atlanta.  At my RE's practice, I do not like one of the US techs and request not to see her.  She just always made me feel uncomfortable and like I was wasting her time.  You have to do what's best to protect yourself.  I feel like that going through infertility treatments gives you the complete right to be 100% selfish.  Follow your gut and if you think it means changing doctors then I would.
As for my unexplained infertility (I started doing this stuff at 29 and am now 31), they basically did tons of blood tests, an HSG, and ultrasounds out the wazoo.  I have a 33 day cycle and tend to ovulate around day 18 or 19.  I took letrozole (similar to Clomid) but never responded.  However, I do respond to Gonal F so that's how I've gotten pregnant.  Have you always done fresh cycles or have you ever done frozen?  At my practice, they now are doing Lysed Cell Removal (LCR) from frozen-thawed cleavage-stage embryos.  I have a friend that did IVF 4 years ago and just got pregnant with twins from her frozen embryos thanks to LCR.  It basically removes the "bad" cells and increases your chances with frozens.  My maternal 1st cousin was just diagnosed with unexplained infertility so I'm wondering if there is something in my family.  My husband has a great sperm count.  We'll never know what's wrong but I just try not to try and figure it out.

by mwtlgray, Oct 24, 2007 04:30PM

I love how positive you are. It really does help. Thank you for the advice you gave me and I will definately try it.
I also have a longer cycle. It is never regular tho. Usually between 32-36 days and sometimes even longer but never any shorter. They say its due to my low weight, but other than that they just say I am healthy enough, but I still think there must be something wrong with me too. Since my husband has CF the only way we can try to get pregnant is thru IVF and they havent changed anything about the treatments.
My husband really wants to change, but I am still on the fence. I have to drive 2 hours to Jackson, but there is one also 1 1/2 hr away in Memphis. I have thought about going there, but then Michael would have to start all over as well retrieveing sperm and all, I havent looked into it to much but I guess I should. My REs very compassionet and all but I just think that something is wrong and needs to change. I guess I am just confused right now.
My first 2 tries were fresh cycles. The eggs werent the best quality but were ok. They werent able to freeze any the first time and implanted 3. Nothing happened. The second time they implanted 4 embyos and did assisted hatching and were able to freeze one blastocyte. Nothing happened. So this last time I just had the 1 blastocyte implanted. I spotted Friday, I hadnt done that before during transfers. But still nothing.
I want to try again after the holidays, but I am afraid that it will just be the same thing again. I know it is only going to happen when God is ready for me to have a child, but I just wish I knew when that would be so I could wait and just do it then and save myself all the pain each time.
I love your attitude, it actually makes me want to be more positive about it so thanks.

by ttcagain653, Oct 24, 2007 06:50PM

To: mwtlgray

What does your hubbie think about changing? If you're going to wait until after the holidays, then you'll have time to figure it out. One thing that I felt gave me back control was to have a game plan in place. You could always just go and interview with the other practice and then make a decision. Then, you can get all of your ducks in a row so you can start again in January. My practice has a cut off date for starting your new cycle in December so that they can close on Christmas Day. It is the only day of the year that they are closed! So, if I'm not preggie this month, I'll probably be waiting until Jan. due to the dates and the fact that I'm sure I'll have leftover cysts from the meds. That's really sweet of you to say that you think I'm positive because I think that I'm the most negative person that I know! ;) But, when you've been through infertility stuff, I think that it helps to share with others. Do you have any close friends that have gone through infertility? One of my best friends went through it at the same exact time as me. She has PCOS and her hubbie had some sperm problems...they did IVF and they have twins that are 1 month older than my son. Don't think that something is wrong with you. It will just weigh you down and add to your frustration. Just think about the fact that you are going to be such a good mom one day. And, you'll appreciate your baby so much because of the struggle that it took to have him/her on this Earth.

by diamommy, Oct 24, 2007 07:47PM

OK so the results are in and it's Negative. I was really afraid of that. My Beta was only 4 so there is no hope to retest. My husband is shocked and angry, more so because we used donor eggs. If it was with my cycle and my eggs this outcome would be understanding. It's so hard because we are searching for answers in a area where too many factors come into play that they may not be able to tell me why this didn't work. I do have 8 frozed embryos left but it doesn't get easier each time as I thought it would. We have a appt with the RE Friday and I will be throwing questions left and right, If I can think of any right now I am shocked. But it's weird because the 10 day wait is worse than knowing the truth. I agree with TTCAGAIN653, it is so important to have a game plan. We will try again in Feb. Right now I have has a few cocktails to numb the pain and it really works, so to all who have a negative outcome have a drink and get out of the house. I had all the symptoms of pregnancy too including going to the bathroom often, maybe I just wanted it so bad I convinced myself I was. Next time maybe I'll go away for the first week on vacation. I was also thinking about acupuncture. For those of you where IVF worked do you have suggestions on how to really get your body and mind prepared, any vitamins, treatment, anything that may have helped. Please let all of us BFN'S know. Thanks

by ttcagain653, Oct 24, 2007 08:06PM

To: diamommy

I'm so sorry that you had a BFN. I think that it's perfectly fine to have a few drinks and relax. I didn't do acupuncture but seriously thought about it. I read a book called The Infertility Cure: The Ancient Chinese Wellness Program for Getting Pregnant and Having Healthy Babies by Randine Lewis. I even called the clinic but didn't ever follow through with anything. I also read the Conception Chronicles...that book is funny! Before you go to the dr, I'd make a list of your questions. If you're fired up when you go in, you might forget things and then leave without the answers that you need. I wish you the best. I'll be thinking about you and praying for you to get preggie!

by Panda404, Oct 25, 2007 06:39AM

To: all

Dear Friends,
Yesterday my blood test confirmed that we are pregnant! I am in a state of total shock and disbelief. Being a part of these forums means alot to me--I think that 2ww was probably the most hellish thing I have ever gone through. Without the words of encouragement I would hardly have been able to make through each grueling day. And, today I know that I have these friends out in cyberspace who will rejoice with me over the news! I am also keenly aware that some of you are hurting over the negative results. I wish I had magic power to help every woman get what she longs for so badly. I REALLY understand the importance of these forums now! Thanks to all for helping me get to this point. I am going to need friends over the next few months. Whoever is hurting, you are not by yourself and you are talking to people on this forum who do understand. So this is a "cyber" hand I extend to help you take the next steps you've got to take to grieve and to go back to square one. Take hold of it. On the question of what I did that helped my process--I have no idea. The only med I took the whole time was a nightly magnesium supplement so I would not be constipated--and I wasn't. I generally eat whatever I want (including chips!) but obviously no alcohol. I eat ALOT of red meat for the iron and protein. I have my coffee every morning. I have always been a real junkie for "alternative" things like acupuncture and herbal medicine, but once I started ivf I quit ALL that. My RE ( who is pretty famous and has written several books on ivf) thinks that "complementary" therapies are not helpful. He won't come right out and say that they hurt anything....but the problem is that no one knows. Anecdotal evidence is evidence in a scientific sense. Everytime I told my girlfriends I was laying off the herbs I got a story about how someone was taking the herbs and they got pregnant. But that's is not proof--it could be a coincidence. And, no matter how many websites advertise all these things a person can swallow to enhance fertility, the bottom line is that this is not supported by REAL studies. There is a limit to how much one can know about a given herb because it is usually not legal to do statistically significant studies on human beings. I know this is not a popular view--but I am a big fan of mainstream medical knowledge. Given all the women who want to get pregnant, you can only imagine how much expertise and money is spent trying to study what works. For this reason I choose to go by what the docs believe. I really think that if something really made a difference they would know about it. Having said this I do not think acupuncture could hurt anything... and it might help you relax. Ditto massage. I just did not do those things because I needed to save my money for all these costs. Hope this helps....

by pray4us, Oct 25, 2007 07:54AM

To: Panda404

I am so Happy for you I do not know what to say. I think that your family memebers and DH said it best. Sharing your words of encouragement helps me understand what roads and how much love and prayer help any woman in the situation. So it looks like we have to keep in touch since we both are about 2 days apart. I took my second BPT yesterday and the levels are rising nicely. Next week is my first ultrasound. I am going to continue my prayer for a safe, healthy pregnancy and give Thanks for my cyber friends like you. CONGRATULATIONS and enjoy the second tough part, pregnancy!

by ttcagain653, Oct 25, 2007 08:07AM

To: all

I'm so happy for those of you that are pregnant and are grieving with those of you who aren't. I didn't even make it to the test day...I started my period this morning. I am really sad but after having miscarriages I would rather get pregnant with a healthy baby than lose one. Losing one is so hard...so I'm just thankful for my baby that I have. I called the dr this morning to find out what our next step is. I'm not sure if I'll do another IUI or IVF. I have a feeling that the dr will want me to do IUI but I'd rather do IVF because the chances are higher that you'll get pregnant. I hate being on those stupid OI drugs and I hate being monitored...especially since I have to drive 2 hrs every day. Sorry, I'm just upset and am in a bad mood. I know that I don't have the right to b*tch since I have a baby so if I'm pissing you off...I completely understand because I've been there. And, I apologize but thank yall for listening to me. I want the pregnant girls to have full term healthy babies and enjoy their pregnancies (unlike I did~I was so paranoid and anxious). And, I want the ones who aren't pregnant yet to not give up hope. You will have a baby one day. It might not happen exactly when you want it to but it will. Just keep praying and try to be positive. I guess that I need to take my own advice to heart.

by Panda404, Oct 25, 2007 10:08AM

Well, you have every right to feel sorrow and disappointment and to hang out in a bad mood. It will pass but as my friend said, "there's no way out but through." We are all really wired because--let's face it--these are very high stakes!!!! Hang in there. As I understand it, if you've ever been pregnant before--and especially if you carried the baby to term--you have a major advantage. You have proof that your body CAN. In this game, that's worth a lot. I am rejoicing right now that my little guys implanted at all! I never thought we would get this far. And, if we lose them ( I pray we do not) I will be right back at that clinic. I told the nurse, "i hope ya'll like my company, 'cause we'll be seeing each other alot either way!" She was nice about it. If you have done this once you are in a different league so plenty of reason to hope again!

by mwtlgray, Oct 25, 2007 11:40AM

I am so sorry about this round for you. My heart goes out to you, I know how you feel and I hate that you are hurting, but I know that you will be okay, You gave me such positive words yesterday and it really got me thru the day. Reading your comments helped me to get out of my lousy, feel sorry for myself mood. This forum helps alot. It is good to know you are not alone and people who dont even know you, care about you and wish you the best and know exactly what you are going thru. I used this forum to get out all my worries and frustrastion to people who know how I feel and I dont believe anyone will get mad at you for anything. The fact that you have a son gives me hope that it will work. So I am happy for you and glad you have a baby. It gives me hope and like Panda said the fact that you already have a child prooves your body can do it again, so please dont give up hope and take your own advise, it will happen!
I am trying to start as well. I usually start about 3 days after I stop my progestorone shots, but I started spotting yesterday at only day 27 of my cycle and my cycles usually last 32-36 days. I know yours lasts longer to so does this mean you started earlier than you usualy do? My body is wanting to start but its not coming on full force yet..maybe its because I did a frozen blastocyte transfer this time instead of the 3 day transfers..is this normal?
My husband REALLY wants to change clinics. I am the one on the fence. Who knows maybe he is the one with the mothers intuition. I am going to think about it, I just hate having to start ALL over somewhere else.

by mwtlgray, Oct 25, 2007 11:44AM

To: Panda404

Congrats!!!! I am so happy for you! I wish you luck and hope you have a wonderful and healthy full term pregnancy! Congratulations!

by ttcagain653, Oct 25, 2007 08:39PM

To: all

Thanks for listening to me. Your support and words of kindness really help!

by ttcagain653, Oct 25, 2007 08:47PM

To: panda404

I pray that you have a healthy full term pregnancy with a baby that you can raise and love. I used to pray just to get pregnant...after losing a baby after doing fertility treatments I began to pray for a full term, healthy, strong, smart, normal, beautiful baby that I could watch grow up. God gave me what I prayed for both times I got pregnant but I did lose the first baby. I learned to ask specifically what I wanted...not that you always get what you want. You get what God thinks that you need. I guess what makes me the saddest about the miscarriages is if I had my son's twin as well then I would be done having children...that's why I hate that I'm doing treatments again. Having a baby already does change my feelings but the yearning is still there and is still just as strong as it always has been. I think that it will go away when I'm done having however many children I'm supposed to have. I really feel that God puts that in my heart which is why all of you that are trying to get pregnant have that feeling. It's not just because you want to have a baby to be like your friends or from social/family pressure...it's because you are destined to be a mom. And, you will be if you believe it in your heart...it just might not come the way that you planned!

by ttcagain653, Oct 25, 2007 09:09PM

To: mwtlgray

My period did come BIG Time early. I took my Ovidrel shot on 10/12 at 11pm and did IUIs on the 13th and 14th in the morning. My clinic does PAF to the sperm during the wash so it increases the chances of getting pregnant with IUI to almost 40%. So, I probably ovulated sometime on the 14th/15th (in the middle of the night). I was having no preggie symptoms other than tons of discharge (which happened with my 1st pregnancy that I lost). I took this as a preggie sign but like I said in the past you REALLY just never know! The baby woke up early this morning and I got up to go to the bathroom. Low and behold, it started. It wasn't spotting either, it was a full blown period. It was a shock to say the least because I figured that I'd have cramps or some other type of warning! I didn't cry but it made me sad. I really want my baby to have a sibling. In fact, I want another child to specifically give him a brother or sister. I have a brother and enjoyed playing with him as we grew up together.

You are such a sweet person and you are very positive!

As with changing practices, I would go and interview with the other doctors and then make the decision. If your hubbie really wants to change, and since his CF is a factor in the process, then I would at the very least do a consult with the other clinic. I know that you are the one that goes through the shots and monitoring and retrieval, etc... But, if you don't give the new clinic a chance and you stay where you are and don't get preggie there, do you think that your hubbie will hold it against you? Infertility has totally put my marriage through the ringer. It has killed my sex life because we tried on our own for so long that it became a science experiment instead of making love. I think that I have a mental block about it now because I never got preggie the old fashioned way! Don't think of the other clinic as starting over. It's just continuing your treatment with a different person leading the way toward you becoming a mom. Does your ins help pay or are you a cash patient? Or, did you do shared risk with your current doc? That would be a factor in my decision. But, I'm a cash-pay patient. I'm probably going to do 1 more IUI and then do IVF.

by mwtlgray, Oct 26, 2007 03:17PM

I am a cash-pay patient. I think I will check into the other clinic. The only one I know anything about is the one I go to and after reading your comment, I realize it wouldnt be a bad idea to check into it, they may have more options as far as shared risk, boy that would be nice. And I dont want this to cause problems in my marriage, so its definaltly worth looking in to.

Thanks so much for all your help, I have felt better every time I would read what you wrote. Maybe the new year will bring new luck for us all who got a negative BPT and we'll get our wish.

by ttcagain653, Oct 26, 2007 07:13PM

To: mwtlgray

I use Freedom Fertility Pharmacy and if you are cash pay and do 2 cycles with them after 1-1-06, then the 3rd cycle is free (it's an average of your meds as far as the $ amount goes) as long as the cycles are all done within 18 mths of the 1st one. So, if you're not using them, you might want to look into it. Since you're doing IVF, that could save you some $$ in the long run. Of course, hopefully you'll get preggie on your next try.

by mwtlgray, Oct 27, 2007 10:18PM

Is that an online pharmacy? Sounds really good. I will look it up if it is. Right now I drive 2 hours to Jackson Medical Mall, but there prices are much lower than the average cost. I pay about 1500 for lupron, follistem, and progestoron, and the HCG shot, which was 1000 less than quoted by other pharmacys.

by ttcagain653, Oct 28, 2007 03:28PM

To: mwtlgray

The website is www.freedomfertility.com

If you go to patients, then medications, it will show you the prices. Then, you can see if it's worth it or not. It's free overnight Fedex shipping.

Your doctor just has to call or can fax your prescription.

I hope that you had a good weekend!

by ang39, Oct 29, 2007 08:37AM

I had transfer done on 10/24 wit h2 embryos. No symptoms as of yet. Took a HPT on 10/27. Got a negative result. Think I should wait until 11/3 when they want to do my blood test? I really wanna know. Now today. Im feeling a little tired and a little nauseated. not sure if its hopeful symptoms or the real thing...any advice?

by ang39, Oct 29, 2007 12:45PM

To: EVERYONE

I had transfer done on 10/24 wit h2 embryos. No symptoms as of yet. Took a HPT on 10/27. Got a negative result. Think I should wait until 11/3 when they want to do my blood test? I really wanna know. Now today. Im feeling a little tired and a little nauseated. not sure if its hopeful symptoms or the real thing...any advice?

by ttcagain653, Oct 29, 2007 01:34PM

To: ang39

I would just keep busy and do everything in your power not to think about it. Then, you'll find out on Friday. You don't have much longer! I think that 10/27 was too early to test...but you could take one Friday morning if you wanted to. All of my friends that have done IVF do that! I am just too chicken.

by pray4us, Oct 30, 2007 06:55AM

To: ang39

I had transfer done on 10/10 and took a HPT on 10/18 that was negative. I had my BPT on 10/22 and it was positive. I am officially 5W1D. My RE said to me that the HPT is sometimes negative because there is not enogh HCG in urine to be positive but it is in the blood. So I agree with ttcagain653 try to keep busy these next few days and wait for the blood test. Otherwise you will freak yourself out, I sure did.
Good Luck!

by Panda404, Oct 30, 2007 07:28AM

To: all

I forgot to tell everybody something that happened to me. I called my mom and told her that I was giving up b/c I had no symptoms. This was day 10 after 3dtransfer. So I went out and bought an HPT and kept my mom on the phone while I did it. After about 3 minutes I told Mom "It's negative." At that point my mom started comforting me and we started talking about what the next steps would be. She had to hang up b/c/ she was at work. I went back into the bathroom and looked at the test again and saw the "faintest" (almost invisible) positive line! This was after 10 minutes! I know the label says don't even look after 10 minutes, but sure enough a few days later I found out that the test was correct! It was EPT so I actually called the company and the customer service nurse was very nice. She said that even the slightest shadow of a line is probably a positive. So, I encourage everyone to be sure and look closely if you are testing early.

by iwantbabies, Nov 01, 2007 07:20AM

by iwantbabies, Nov 01, 2007 07:24AM

To: all

Hi: I'm new to this site. I'm 26 yrs. old & tubelees. Had my 1st IVF cycle 10/30/07. 8 eggs/7 fertilized. I want to take an HPT so bad but, its way to early. How can I get though the next 10 days? My DH is so excited and so, am I; just afraid of being disappointed.

You all are so positive and supportive which I why I decided to post and will continue to. Congrats to those who are preggers and I'm greiving with those who aren't your time will come.

Last night I went to be at like 9:30pm which is super early; I slept all night..I don't know why I was so fatigued. This couldn't be a preggers symptom already right?

May we all be blessed with healthy babies!

by pray4us, Nov 01, 2007 11:02AM

Relax is the best advice I can give. I think everyone here can agree that the TWW is the worst. As for betting through no answers there except this web forum. Some of the signs of fatigue can be from the hormone they are pumping us with/ I will assume you are taking progesterone hormones? That is one of the side effects that I read. I took a HPT 5 days before my BPT and got a negative or possible faint positive line. The BPT showed I am positive (5 1/2 Weeks today), a few others from this forum have had mixed results so just try to relax, read all the information you can for either answer but think positive!

by iwantbabies, Nov 01, 2007 12:10PM

To: pray4us

Wow! Congrats on the pregnancy...I'm going to go crazy within the next 10 days..I'm going to try very hard to stay aways from all drug stores.

I'm taking progesterone 3 x times a day vaginally.

by iwantbabies, Nov 01, 2007 12:10PM

To: pray4us

Wow! Congrats on the pregnancy...I'm going to go crazy within the next 10 days..I'm going to try very hard to stay aways from all drug stores.

I'm taking progesterone 3 x times a day vaginally.

by jennsdream, Nov 01, 2007 05:36PM

To: all

I am new to the site, actually my first posting to any site ever. I need real advice and I think I am at the right place. This is my first IVF after 6 years exactly of infertility only 1 conception (shock) that ended 7 weeks. Transfer was 10/22 so I am 11pdt 3db transferred 3 best quality (not sure what that means as that was my clinics lingo). I had my second blood test this morning 11/1 and my first was 10/30. The nurse just called and is concerned with my levels so I have to retest Saturday and results will not be in until Monday 3pm. This weekend is going to be torturous! The first my level was 3 and today it was 26. It is extremely low but increasing. Has anyone had anything like this happen?

Good luck to all and much baby dust and blessings!

by ttcagain653, Nov 01, 2007 08:58PM

To: jennsdream

I haven't had that happen but I can see why it would be nothing but pure torture to wait! Try to stay calm and wait until you know some definite results on Monday afternoon. They'll be able to better tell you what is going on.

by ttcagain653, Nov 01, 2007 09:06PM

I've been preggie twice (once with a singleton that I lost and once with twins~I lost one and have a healthy baby boy). Anyway, I have done the 2ww several times and it's been different each time. This most recent time I thought that I might be preggie because I was having lots of discharge~this happens bigtime when you are pregnant however I started my period. You can read earlier in the forum what I wrote. What I'm trying to say is that you just never know...my boobs were never sore the entire time that I was pregnant with my baby. They only got sore after my milk came in. Everyone has different symptoms but I am the girl that really looks for them...basically I'm your typical infertility gal who wants a baby (yes~I'm selfish because I want another one) to the point that I seek out symptoms in my body. Because I'm a well seasoned veteran of this, I would recommend keeping busy, trying not to look for symptoms, and just wait until you take your BPT. Good luck! I hope that you are preggie! It's in God's hands!

by Panda404, Nov 02, 2007 06:08AM

It is much too early for a HPT and the worriesome thing is that you might get a false positive if you took the "trigger" shot. Here's what I did to get through the 2ww. I imagined it was going to be a BFN this time and that this was really just a dress rehearsal--practice for the real thing. Then I planned exactly what would happen next, including looking at the calendar to see when the next cycle could be started. I spoke to the nurses and made all the necessary openings in my work calendar for try #2. I even thought through a little speech exactly how I would report the news to my anxiously waiting relatives. I told my dh that everything was all organized for either outcome and that if we get a BFN we know exactly what will happen right after. I even planned out a couple of days of work to "cry" and then get over it. I said to myself--one quality I'm glad I have is that I am not a quitter and if this is not the time I will be back. I told the nurses, "I hope you guys like me because you'll be seeing me alot if it doesn't work this time!" They were so nice. Sooo...wouldn't you know it--we got a BFP! Thanks to the Almighty for that one. But the "deal" I made with God was to say that if He did want me to have it I would care for my child with gratititude and if He did not I would be brave and "rise up and walk" right back to that clinic unless I got I sign that I should do otherwise. This whole contingency PLAN really helped me. (Can you tell I am a control freak?:))) The main thing I am doing everyday is reminding myself--"I am already here on this earth. My life is not worthless if I am not a mother. God put me here for a reason. Even though my life would seem to be so much richer with a child, I still have important work to do if I am not meant to have one." I think this whole thing gets too risky if we start to think that unless we are mothers we do not have any value as women. That's not true. We can make this world better either way. So that's my 2 cents on the 2ww. Hang in there!

by iwantbabies, Nov 02, 2007 06:29AM

To: Panda 404 & ttcagain653

Wow! Thanks to you both....I think that strategy sound feasible. I need to keep myself busy but, it seems to get worse at work. At home or on the weekend my mind doesn't tell me to go take a test but, at work it's HORRIBLE...Really and I don't know why. It could be because, I'm just sitting at a desk all day waiting for 5 so, I can just go home because, thats the only time I'm calm..and will not look for symptoms but, my stomach is sore in the lower part and I have pains here & there..What could that be about?

But, thanks to the both of you; I will wait it out for sure. Thanks a bunch!

by izzyd, Nov 02, 2007 01:42PM

This is my first post so I'm sorry if it's repetative but has anyone taken a HPT on day 10 after a fresh day 3 transfer? I took one and it had a very faint pink line? Just wondering if it's a possible false positive.

I started experiencing very mild cramping the morning of day 10 and a small tinge of pinkish spotting (only once though) which is what prompted to take the test.

Any feedback would be appreciated as this site seems to be a wonderful resource for us IVF'ers.

Thanks

by iwantbabies, Nov 02, 2007 02:56PM

To: all

I succumbed to the HPT devil 4pt and its negative...Was it to early? Could the HCG be out of my system already? I had the trigger shot 10/25. I'm so nervous. I pray it was wrong. I've had mild cramping since day 2 after Transfer. I was thinking it would've given me a positive due to the trigger shot. Could I really be negative?

Also, I hear spotting could be implantation bleeding. 10-15 days is pretty good timing I'd say but, I'm only day 4...

I really hope I just took it too early.

by Panda404, Nov 03, 2007 10:08AM

To: izzyd and iwantbabies

iwantbabies, Day 4 is not a meaningful result. You might get something you could trust about day 8 if you did not take the hcg triggershot. Day 10 is the earliest to get a trustworthy result if you did, and even then you cannot be 100% sure.
izzyd, what you have described is the EXACT thing that happened to me. I called the test company and they said that the faintest line is a positive. Good wishes to you both!

by cam3109, Nov 03, 2007 02:07PM

To: iwantbabies and all

I had my shot on the 21st of Sept, had my transfer on the 26. I took a HPT on the 2nd and the 3rd they were both negative, I was very discouraged, then I went crazy and took more HPT. I took one on the 5,6,7,8, the showed postive with a darker plus line each time, I took one on morning of the 9th which was my blood test day and it was postive with even a darker line, I was getting excitied thinking am I really pregnant, I did not want to get my hopes up, I went and took my blood test and it was postive, I was so happy, I could not belive it. This was our first try at IVF. We had two embroys transfered. That was my experience with the HPT, everyone is different, so you can try another HPT in a few days or you could wait until your blood test. The waiting is what the hardest. I was going crazy, all I wanted is to give my husband good news while he's in Iraq. The best to all of you.

by iwantbabies, Nov 05, 2007 06:21AM

Okay: I did it again...HPT on day 6 still negative; I will try not 2 test again untill day before beta. I really hope the negative result is wrong!

by ttcagain653, Nov 05, 2007 12:39PM

Don't buy anymore HPT and then you can't even if you want to! That's what I do!!!! :)

by ttcagain653, Nov 05, 2007 12:39PM

Don't buy anymore HPT and then you can't even if you want to! That's what I do!!!! :)

by tjean, Nov 05, 2007 07:02PM

To: HPTers

Hi guys,

I posted here during my last cycle, and it was very helpful.  I am a HPT crack addict.  So, here is the low down.  The most sensitive test to use is First Response Early Detection.  I got a faint line on day 5 of both cycles.  We transferred blasts, so that makes a difference too.  I was 10dpo, so if you transferred 3 day embryos, you would need to wait until atleast day 7 to be 10dpo.

On the first cycle, my beta was 16 on 5dpt of blasts.  I did not check my beta on this cycle on the first day of my faint line, but on the second one, my beta was 58 on 6dpt.

My last pregnancy did not make it more than a week.  We are hopeful this one will be different.  We did an FET and were doubtful, but got a great suprise.  My beta on 9dpt is 295.

Good luck to all of you guys!!

by tjean, Nov 05, 2007 08:01PM

To: HPTers

Ok, so I was just reading about testing early and the whole thing.  I have been pregnant naturally 6 times and had 2 positive IVF cycles, but because we have a genetic thing, IVF has become our reality.  We used donor eggs to increase our chances for a healthy child.  I am only 33.

Anyway, due to all of my experience getting positives and negatives, I can tell you that I have never ever seen anything before 10dpo.  I always start testing what would be 8dpo just to see if I can get something earlier than 10dpo, but it has never ever ever happened.  Treat this like a game of when you are going to see the line this cycle; not if you are.  A different perspective will help with the stress too.

To calculate how many dpo [days past ovulation] you are in an IVF cycle, you have to start from the retrieval date, that is Ovulation day.  So, 5dt of a 3day embryo would be 8dpo.  If you were 5dpt of a blast transfer, you would be 10dpo, so that is why converting is important so that we all know easily what day you are since conception because not everyone has the same age of embryo transferred.

Now, on 10dpo when I say I get a line, I mean it is a FAINT line that always gets darker on 11dpo, 12dpo, 13dpo, until the last one on 14dpo.  [Remember I only buy 6 tests each cycle and I start on 8dpo]  I always buy 2 boxes of 3 First Response Early Detection Tests, they are the best [remember the beta of 16 that it detected?].  I have never had a false positive, ever.  If I go back after 20 minutes and there is a line, there has always been a darker one the next day.  If there is no line, there is no line and I test again on the next day until I run out of tests regardless of when I get the line.  I have gotten my first on different days on each cycle; some on day 10 and others not until day 12.

A faint line is a line, and a line is a BFP!!  When I get the faint line on 10dpo I never get it at the 3 min time limit.  It is always after 10-15 minutes, and you can only see it when you look at it at an angle under a bright light.  Did I mention that I am a HPT crack addict?

Remember that the darkness of the line does not mean anything.  I have had levels as high as 1200 and still didn't get a line that matches the test line.  My lines are always half as bright as the test line at their darkest.  The reason the line is faint when you have a high beta is because the hcg hormone is diluted in urine.

For more information of the sensitivity of pregnancy tests, pictures of lines and more fun filled facts:

www.peeonastick.com [I am not the author of the website, she is way more addicted than me :)]

Good Luck and don't stress!!

by iwantbabies, Nov 06, 2007 06:59AM

To: tjean;ttcagain653; cam3109; Panda404

okay so, i did it again...(i can't help it; I'm obsessed)

THE DIGITAL TEST SAYS POSITIVE! COULD THIS BE RIGHT SINCE THE OTHERS SAID NEGATIVE? THIS IS DAY 8PT AND I GO IN TO TEST ON FRIDAY WHICH WOULD BE 11 DPT

MY HCG SHOT WAS ON 10/25/07 AND SINCE I HAD THE NEGATIVES IT MUST'VE BEEN OUT OF MY SYSTEM. IM SO EXCITED BUT, DON'T WANNA GET MY HOPES UP HIGH. MY HUBBY IS SO IRRITATED WITH ME FOR TAKING THE TEST...HE ONLY FOLLOWS DR.S ORDERS..I CAN'T HELP BUT, BE EXCITED THOUGH! I SHOULDN'T HAVE TOLD HIM......

by iwantbabies, Nov 06, 2007 08:57AM

To: all

Hey ladies:

Look what out I found out on the web..This is interesting...May not be 100% for all since timing differs..

What happens after a Day 3 Transfer?

1dpt.. Embryo is growing and developing
2dpt.. Embryo is now a blastocyst
3dpt.. Blastocyst hatches out of shell on this day
4dpt.. Blastocyst attaches to a site on the uterine lining
5dpt.. Implantation begins,as the blastocyst begins to bury in the lining
6dpt.. Implantation process continues and morula buries deeper in the lining
7dpt.. Morula is completely implanted in the lining and has placenta cells & fetal cells
8dpt.. Placenta cells begin to secret HCG in the blood
9dpt.. More HCG is produced as fetus develops
10dpt.. More HCG is produced as fetus develops
11dpt.. HCG levels are now high enough to be immediately detected on HPT

by tjean, Nov 06, 2007 02:10PM

I think that looks pretty right on because on what would be 7dpt or 10dpo, I get that very very faint line, indicating that the hcg just started being produced.  Also, I have not gotten a line until 8dpt or even 9, indicating that there is a variation.

I think this is in line with what I have actually experienced.  A good find.  It certainly explains why I have never seen anything before 7dpt or 10dpo.

If you ever need to test again, the FRED test is the most sensitive.  The digital one you used probably tests a minimum of 50 in the urine.  If you used a FRED yesterday, you may have seen a faint line.  If you get a  positive on a digital test, you are positive.

Since I am a freak, I would buy more tests that are atleast as sensitive as the digital one you used to see if you get a positive.  Go to peeonastick.com to find out how sensitive your digital test was and others that are equally as sensitive.

Don't worry about your husband, do what makes you feel good.  When he sees your baby on the u/s the first time, he will forget about the hpt episode.

Good find.

Good Luck!!

by faith092207, Nov 06, 2007 08:12PM

To: all

Wow! I have not been in the forum for a while but I am glad I came back. You guys posted so much good information. I will be even more ready for my next IVF. The second one was positive for me but the low levels and the ultrasound confirmed an empty sac. I was sad but I also felt we may be a step closer to making the dream a reality.

by iwantbabies, Nov 09, 2007 09:12AM

To: all

Hi Yall:

Well went and had my beta and its positive...........I'm so happy and I'm so glad that my hpt obsession is over...Good Luck to all...and I will continue posting on this site for encouragement to everyone..

god bless you with healthy baby dust!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by tjean, Nov 09, 2007 07:23PM

Congratulations on your BFP!!! I wish you the best of luck with your ultrasound appointment and then the rest of your pregnancy. See, peeing on a stick is not always a bad thing. Good news early is a good thing.

by iwantbabies, Nov 13, 2007 03:04PM

To: all

Hello:

How is everyone? I hop eeverything is going weel for you all. Update on me:

first beta 11/9/07 36
second 11/12/07 458

what a high number; the doctor is ecstatic....me & dh are too...

take care

by Godbless71, Nov 17, 2007 10:36AM

To: all and iwantbabies

i got my positive yesterday with 91 and today gettng brown spotting. i am scared. do u or anyone of you have experienced anything like that....

by iwantbabies, Nov 19, 2007 12:54PM

To: Godbless71

Hi:

Congrats...Oh yes that is completely normal my brown spotting lasted only an hour...I know some people that spot throughout their entire pregnancy. Everything will be A OK...

it's normal...ask your Dr. and they'll say the same thing...

by Vitalamama, Nov 19, 2007 09:32PM

To: All

Hello,
I had a transfer on 11/9/07, that's 10 days ago. I took a HPT today...couldn't wait! and it came back a big NEGATIVE. I am sooo sad, I started crying. I feel that I've gone through so much and this negative result has made me feel so badly.

Do you all think that it is too soon for a HPT? My blood test is this Wednesday 11/21/07.

Am I being irrational by thinking that I'm not pregnant, or should I just calm down?

I hope someone has some words that will make me feel better about have a NEGATIVE result.

Thanks for being there for me, it's nice to have people to talk to.

by alaskacouple, Nov 20, 2007 12:05AM

To: all

Hello again. We did another ivf round, and am now 15dpo (cycle should have come yesterday). Had my beta this morning and was a 5! JUST 5???? I was told to retest on Wed. 11/21. We had two 5day blastocysts transfered on 11/10. Has anyone ever had levels this low with a good outcome? The nurse said it still could go either way????????? I am on progesterone im shots.

by alaskacouple, Nov 20, 2007 12:25AM

To: all

also forgot to mention, I have had brown spotting (just a little bit) today and yesterday.

by cheema1476, Nov 20, 2007 07:10AM

To: alaskacouple, all

Hello,
I have been watching everyone's posts since July. I had my 4th transfer in early September again with failure. I am planning another cycle the end of this month. Anyway my 2nd IVF I had a beta of 6. It did go up to 10 but then started to go down. My doc at the time said he had only seen one beta of 11 go on to a healthy baby. I hope it will work for you and I will keep my fingers crossed.

A little about me : We have been trying for 4 years. I did 2 IUI's early 2006....no success. Went to a new doctor did IVF and got pg. We saw the heartbeat 3x's and miscarried at 9 weeks. At 11 weeks I had to use cytotec to induce the miscarriage. It was horrible. My doc said it was extremely rare to m/c after seeing the heartbeat. We did a bunch of tests and come to find out I have Factor V, protein C resistance, MTHFR (heter) folic acid issue. Genetically my husband and I are compatible. I was due at x-mas 2006 so I was determined now knowing the cause to get pg by then. 2nd IVF had some beta so it was called a chemical pregnancy. 3rd IVF nothing. 4th IVF nothing. My embryos tend to lag in growth. On day 5 I would have a morula (day 4 embryo) and a early stage blast. Yeah...not so good. I am only 31 too. So needless to say my life has been revolving around getting pg. When not doing IVF my cycles are so out of whack. I have not had a normal cycle since. I go about 38-44 days!!!! So currently I am waiting to have a period to start my shots. (I can not go on birth control b/c of my Factor V issue). I also do not produce as many eggs as I should be at my age. First cycle only 7, 2nd only 7, 3rd -12 eggs (put on more meds), 4th- 13 eggs.
So I finally did what I should have done long ago. I researched who is the best and who has the best stats on the CDC site. CCRM (Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine) has the best stats. 70% of clients <35 years will get pregnant and 61% will go on to have a baby. They have the lastest lab which is the SO important. If this cycle does not work out for me I will be traveling there. I have already done a phone consultation with Dr. Schoolcraft. I did switch to a different doc in Michigan who happens to be affiliated with Dr. Schoolcraft. They modeled their labs and use the same media that CCRM uses in their petri dishes. I know I am not the easiest case but we will see.
Best of Luck to everyone!

by iwantbabies, Nov 20, 2007 11:49AM

To: cheema1476 - all

Hello:

Once you find that perfect doctor you will succeed in having a healthy pregnancy. The good thing is you're ONLY 31...GOOD LUCK AND I KNOW EVERYTHING WILL WORK OUT WELL. But, even though it worked onmy 1st try I still know how you feel...Infertility is a tough circumstance to go through no matter how many times someone had to go through it.

TO: Vitalamama

I know how you feel to have that negative show up; Up until 7 dpt they were all neg. then starting on 8dpt they were all positive so, I took one everyday leading up to the beta which confirmed it. So, 10 days is a long time and it may not have worked but, only the blood test will tell you for sure. If it didn't work this time; it will next time...Good Luck!

by cheema1476, Nov 20, 2007 12:24PM

Thanks for the kind words. I do think it will happen, but when....no one knows. So I have to press on. Was there a certain reason why you did IVF? Best of luck also. Did you have your first ultrasound yet?

by iwantbabies, Nov 21, 2007 05:37AM

Hi:

It'll work but, you may need to change Doctor's because, another Dr. may use a different Technique for you.

I had IVF because, of damaged tubes so, I had my tubes removed a month before I started IVF...I am 28 yrs. old. I will have my first ultrasound on 12/3 but, they think it may be twins at 6 weeks my HCG level is 5,114 when it started as 36 after my first beta on 11/9/07.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!

by cheema1476, Nov 21, 2007 06:51AM

Wow, twins would be great!
Please keep me posted after your ultrasound. It is always good to hear positive outcomes.
Happy Holidays to you too!

by saff, Nov 21, 2007 08:19AM

To: cheema 1476

please dont give in keep trying it took us so very long now we have twins.

by saff, Nov 21, 2007 08:19AM

To: cheema 1476

please dont give in keep trying it took us so very long now we have twins.

by cheema1476, Nov 21, 2007 01:18PM

To: saff

Thank you. You are right and I will keep trying. I am hopeful there will be a baby at the end of our long road. It is good to see others who have had failure finally succeed! How long did it take you?

by alaskacouple, Nov 21, 2007 04:00PM

To: all

had my 2nd beta this morning.... (it was only 5 on 11/19) and today is at 15! I have to retest on Friday 11/23...... Still have some mild spotting and little cramping, but doc said it is "probably" still implantation proces..... will update on Friday...

by saff, Nov 22, 2007 04:05AM

To: cheema 1476

Sure you wanna know..............15 years and im now very happy.

by saff, Nov 22, 2007 04:05AM

To: cheema 1476

Sure you wanna know..............15 years and im now very happy.

by saff, Nov 22, 2007 04:05AM

To: cheema 1476

Sure you wanna know..............15 years and im now very happy.

by cheema1476, Nov 23, 2007 09:59AM

To: alaskacouple

I am keeping my fingers crossed for you. Please keep us posted!

by mamivf, Nov 27, 2007 02:08PM

To: all

Hello all! My English is not very good but I'll try to say that I wish...
I had my first IVF transfer done on 11/13 with 3 embryos of 2 days only because I had diminished ovarian reserve and 37 years old. The embryos were really beautiful with 4 cells.
I had HPT on Friday 11/23 - 10 days after transfers and 12 days after retrieval ... It was negative
I had HPT on Sunday 11/25 - 12 days after transfer and 14 days after retrieval... It was negative
and I was convinced that I'll have a BFN (Nurse told me to make Beta on day 15 after transfer. It means tomorrow) but, TODAY 14 days after transfer I decided to do another HPT and it was positive...
Right now I'm waiting for test result...!!!! In 3 hours may call me!!!!!!
What do you think? I'm so nervous and I think it is the longest time in my live!!!!!

by mamivf, Nov 27, 2007 05:56PM

To: all

My 1st beta was 50... The nurse told me it was a little low and the need to confirm it Friday nov. 30th. My DH is little down, he says can't believe never can say: "YES, it's trust..." Nurse told me it would be better if I'd have it tomorrow, she told me it was early today and maybe it's reason of low level...

Can I have hopeful?

by iwantbabies, Nov 29, 2007 06:01AM

To: mamivf

Hello! Please be hopeful! I got my 1st positive 8dpt; My 1st beta 10 days after transfer was only 36 then the next week it was 458 the week after that 5,114; I'm 7 weeks and getting my 1st ultrasound on Monday coming; I'm so excited ....................Please pray-----hard but, 50 was much higher than my first. I hope you're pregnant and I hope it's a successful full term pregnancy....

Good Luck!

by kimmy13, Nov 30, 2007 02:49AM

To: all

Hello to all! I am new to board, and thrilled to find the kindred spirits here.

I had FET on Wed 11/28 - three "snow babies" as DH and I call them. Can hardly contain myself from doing HPT, but will hold out for a while longer. We did IVF in April and I miscarried at nearly 8 weeks. This is our last shot. Keep your fingers crossed for us.

Good Luck to all!

by savi243, Nov 30, 2007 03:12AM

my periods are quite regular and averages 27 days. its been 31 days now anf no sign of periods. i did a home pregnancy test this morning and it came out negative. we have been tyring for a baby for the last 8 months. my period has never crossed 29days, im confused. We were so dissppointed seeing the negative result. i am not sure if i have any pregnancy symptoms also.im 32 and my husband is 34, we are longing to have a baby. can someone help me here.....
can some one please respond, im having this burpy feeling too, and some uneasy feeting in my stomach???

by iwantbabies, Nov 30, 2007 05:50AM

To: savi243 & Kimmy13

Hello:

It's really hard to say. I suggest calling a Doctor to have a blood test done and thats when you'll get the actual answer. Good Luck!

To Kimmy 13:

I really hope your pregnant; if it worked that last time it'll probably work this time,,,Sorry to hear about your miscarriage. Hold out on doing an HPT unil 8 dpt...I really think it'll work and go full term this time. Did they give you a reason for miscarrying the first time? What were you signs> Were you bleeding etc...? For you first miscarriage did you have an ultrasound done? Good Luck

by mamivf, Nov 30, 2007 03:39PM

To: iwantbabies - savi243 - all

Thanks!!!! I'm waiting right now for my second beta test...!!!!!
I hope it will be double!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG how much stress!!!!!!!!!!!!

Savi, i made 2 test and these were negatives and in few days these were positives... But, I think you need go to lab and to do a HCG-beta test (You can have result in 4 hours...) good luck!!!!

by kimmy13, Nov 30, 2007 03:46PM

Thanks for your positive comments! RE just told me that 1 of 5 pregnancies miscarry and this happened to be the one. I started heavy bleeding - rushed to hospital - just that quick. No signs or warnings. I was holding on to the hope that maybe one embie miscarried and the other one hung on, but no luck. Now since I transferred three embies, I'm hoping for better odd. 8dpt, is that the full 8 days, or do I get to deduct some since my snow babies were day 5 blastocysts? Just checking! thanks again for your sweet thoughts!!

by mamivf, Nov 30, 2007 08:23PM

To: all

II'm confused when I should consider my ovulation day but I did
HPT 10dp2dt and it was negative
HPT 12dp2dt and it was negative
HPT 14dp2dt and it was positive and 15dpt/16dp2dt/17dp2dt (Positive)
Beta @ 50 on 14dp2dt positive but low
Beta @ 351 on 17dp2dt.... It looks so better!!!

by cheema1476, Dec 02, 2007 11:44AM

To: kimmy13

Just wondering if you did a HPT yet?
I don't think you deduct any days since they were blastocysts. You should b able to get a true positive now.....good luck!
You count your retrieval day as say 1. So on 11/30 you are 13dpr. I am sure your bloodtest is real soon if not on 12/1.
Wishing you the best.

by kimmy13, Dec 03, 2007 12:55AM

I did a hpt but it was negative. My blood test is Friday Dec 7 - I am still having trouble figuring out the days. My transfer was on 11/28 - since it was fet and a 5 day blastocyst - is 11/28 day 5? Sorry to be so clueless! thanks for your help! Fingers crossed! :)

by kimmy13, Dec 03, 2007 12:55AM

I did a hpt but it was negative. My blood test is Friday Dec 7 - I am still having trouble figuring out the days. My transfer was on 11/28 - since it was fet and a 5 day blastocyst - is 11/28 day 5? Sorry to be so clueless! thanks for your help! Fingers crossed! :)

by savi243, Dec 03, 2007 02:05AM

i m having some bleeding from morning..im so depresssed and confused :-( the blood is quite watery, unlike the bleeding during menstruation..is this common, can i still be pregnant???

by savi243, Dec 03, 2007 02:05AM

i m having some bleeding from morning..im so depresssed and confused :-( the blood is quite watery, unlike the bleeding during menstruation..is this common, can i still be pregnant???

by savi243, Dec 03, 2007 02:05AM

i m having some bleeding from morning..im so depresssed and confused :-( the blood is quite watery, unlike the bleeding during menstruation..is this common, can i still be pregnant???

by cheema1476, Dec 03, 2007 03:58PM

To: kimmy13

Sorry I forgot you had FET. I think you can test 2 days before you blood test. It is still to soon to get a true negative. I am not sure if 11/28 is considered day 5 or not. It would make sense if it was though especially if you are having your blood test on 12/7. Good luck and please post when you know.

by cheema1476, Dec 03, 2007 04:04PM

To: savi243

Did you test again? If it was positive then you are pregnant. If you never got a positive there still could have been something there but just not a viable pregnancy. I would recommend a blood test to know for sure. Most HPT's measure a urine concentrate of 20. Your levels could have been just below this. You will know the answer with a blood test.

A great book to invest in is Taking Charge of your Fertility. It will help you monitor your cycles.
Warm wishes....

by kimmy13, Dec 07, 2007 12:22PM

To: all

I just got a positive from my re! I don't know whether to squeal or squal! She said my number was 65 and seemed to think that was good. I had FET on 11/28 - how do I figure a due date! Keep me and my little snow baby(s) in your prayers!!

by cheema1476, Dec 07, 2007 01:22PM

To: kimmy13

Congrats! How exciting. I just had my retirieval this past Wednesday. I had 18 eggs, 16 mature and 14 fertilized. I find out tomorrow if I am doing a day 3 transfer or a day 5. It is always so good to hear about those who have struggled finally get pg. It gives me hope.
As for your due date.....I would minus 5 days from 11/28 and use that date as date of conception in the fertility calculater. It should be close to the true date.
Stay positive and best of luck!

by kimmy13, Dec 07, 2007 03:14PM

I will have you in my "get me a safe baby" prayers!! Good Luck and thanks for your kind wishes. I am still numb!! Cannot believe it. Good luck with your transfer and keep us posted! SSBD to you! Your eggs sound great - and it sure sounds like you'll get a baby!! :)

by cheema1476, Dec 08, 2007 08:41AM

To: kimmy13/all

So I just heard from my clinic and I have on day three 5-8 cells, 1-7 cell, 2-6 cells, 4-4cells with fragmentation. They decided to do a day 5 transfer on Monday. Hopefully the good ones will continue to grow into beautiful embryos.

by cheema1476, Dec 11, 2007 08:19AM

To: all

Well, I can't believe it....I had 4 blasts. Never in my 4 previous IVF cycles had I ever had a blastocyst (they were early blasts or morula's). They transfered 2 back yesterday and froze the other 2. They look sooooooo beautiful. Right after the procedure I did acupuncture and when I got home I listened to a visualization cd. I guess my thought is, when would I start to feel symptoms, specifically cramping? When I did get pg before, I felt cramping, but I can't remember when it started. Thanks!

by janrix_211, Dec 23, 2007 06:22PM

To: all

Hi! to all.i had FET on the 11 December 2007. My pregnancy test is due on Christmas Day. I've done HPT on the 23rd (today) and it was negative. Will i still get a positive result on my due date?. many thanks!

from

janrix

by herbertmamma, Jan 01, 2008 08:16PM

To: Janrix

So what was your HCG?

by herbertmamma, Jan 01, 2008 08:20PM

To: all

I am 4dpt, this is our third time, I have a doctors appointment 1-7-08 for blood test. We transferred 3 blastocyst, but this is a frozen cycle, so are chances of getting pregnant are slim. Anyone do FET with success?

by cheema1476, Jan 02, 2008 05:03PM

To: herbertmamma

Why would your chances be slim? Was the quality low? i've heard of plenty successes with FET. Are you cramping yet? Any signs? I hope everything will work out for you....try to stay positive. What I found to REALLY help was doing a visualization CD that my clinic offered and acupunture. I just did my 5th IVF cycle and am currently pg. It helped sooooo much to be relaxed this time and to visualize a baby in our life. Did you get pg any of the other times?

by herbertmamma, Jan 02, 2008 06:08PM

the first transfer, we transferred 2 AA, bpt was negative. second transfer 08-07 FET, transferred 2 AB, +HPT after 5th post transfer, Blood test at 10n days was 150, 3 days later 380, Sonogram showed 2 sacs, second sono showed 2 empty sacs no fetal pole. This time, transferred 3 blastocyst AB, I tried doing a HPT (like last time, 5 days post transfer) HPT negative, so I am pretty sure we are not pregnant. We have 5 left, so we will try again in 2 months. TELL ME about you and your experience!!!!

by cheema1476, Jan 02, 2008 08:32PM

To: herbertmamma

I am sorry you and your husband have been through so much. It still could be to soon to get a positive if there is only one that took.
A little about me : We have been trying for 4 years. I did 2 IUI's early 2006....no success. Went to a new doctor did IVF and got pg. We saw the heartbeat 3x's and miscarried at 9 weeks. At 11 weeks I had to use cytotec to induce the miscarriage. It was horrible. My doc said it was extremely rare to m/c after seeing the heartbeat. We did a bunch of tests and come to find out I have Factor V(clotting of the blood), protein C resistance, MTHFR (heter) folic acid issue. Genetically my husband and I are compatible. I was due at x-mas 2006 so I was determined now knowing the cause to get pg by then. 2nd IVF had some beta so it was called a chemical pregnancy. 3rd IVF nothing. 4th IVF nothing. My embryos tend to lag in growth. On day 5 I would have a morula (day 4 embryo) and a early stage blast. Yeah...not so good. I am only 31 too. So needless to say my life has been revolving around getting pg. I also do not produce as many eggs as I should be at my age(at least this is what they say) First cycle only 7, 2nd only 7, 3rd -12 eggs (put on more meds), 4th- 13 eggs.
So I finally did what I should have done long ago. I researched who is the best and who has the best stats on the CDC site. CCRM (Colorado Center for Reproductive Medicine) has the best stats. 70% of clients <35 years will get pregnant and 61% will go on to have a baby. They have the lastest lab which is the SO important. If this cycle does not work out for me I will be traveling there. I have already done a phone consultation with Dr. Schoolcraft. I did switch to a different doc in Michigan who happens to be affiliated with Dr. Schoolcraft. They modeled their labs and use the same media that CCRM uses in their petri dishes. I know I am not the easiest case but we will see.

So this was my 5 th cycle. After my 4th failed I decided to seek out a new doctor. I should have done this after my 2nd...but I trusted them. This time around everything has gone so smooth. I produced the most eggs I ever have and my doctor stated I was previously over medicated. This time I made 18 eggs. 16 fertilzed and for the first time ever I had 4 blastocyst. So they transfered 2 back and froze the other 2. I had tears swell in my eyes when they told me I had high quality blasts. I guess the lab just made such a huge difference for me and my eggs.

This time I just knew I was pg, I had cramping and just felt it...wierd. My first beta ws 208, two days later it was 422, three days later (per my request to test again) it was 1076. Then I went for my first ultrasound last friday and we saw 2 sacs. I was shocked. My beta that day was only 2702 (that was four days after the 1076 beta). My docs seemed to be positive it was still a good number. I go this friday to look for heartbeats and I am pretty nervous. I would be 6 weeks and 2 days. This overall experience was great with this clinic. The day of my transfer they played Enya in the OR, I saw them aspirate the embryos in the pipette, I did acupuncture right after and then came home and did the visualization CD for the next week. I still do it b/c it is so relaxing. So even with my blood disorders I hope all will go smooth. I am on Lovenox shots everyday until 6-12 weeks after delivery. I take an extra 4000 of folic acid daily and baby aspirin. I haven't really felt pg except I get really tired at times. Occasionally I get a wave of nausea but nothing major yet. I had a bad day on New Year's morning, I just started to loose faith that we would see heartbeats. My poor husband....I freak him out too. Today I feel better but I guess I will always worry. Problem is I keep reading stories on the internet, some good and some bad. So of course I tend to remember the bad ones. I might go tomorrow to my mom's OB office (she is a manager there) to get my ultrasound done early. We will see.

Did they tell you why the sacs where empty? Were they shocked or did they suspect something could be wrong?

Stay Positive, it really could be to early yet. I will keep my fingers crossed for you.

By the way, did you have any symptoms when you where pg?

by herbertmamma, Jan 03, 2008 11:10AM

To: cheema1476

I did have pg symptoms thats why I did a hpt so early. My breasts were so swollen and I was very tired. I was going to one of the best fertility clinics, Center for Assisted Reproduction, very well known clinic. I really enjoyed that facility, but the expense was overwhelming. Dr Nackley was very shocked, she said they were probably dead as soon as they were inserted. I then had to miscarry with cytotec. This new facility I just went to for this last FET, is also highly reccomended, but the cost for FET is only, $600.00 total. This experience was very fast, a little too fast, but I am going back. I also thought it was crazy that they did not use ultrasound guidance for the transfer. Which I don't believe or I cant remember if they told me that in the beginning. There is also NO shots, only oral medications. Prenatal, estrasdiol, prometrium, vaginal progesterone, baby asprin, Vivtel Dot patch, antibiotic, thats it. There success rate for FET is about 58%.

If this last one does not take, we will have to start all over, the cost will be 4,500. Not too shabby...eh?

Be positive! Enjoy the moment! We worry soooo much, that we seem to overlook they joy of just being pregnant. Please let me know how it goes. Where do you live? We live in Benbrook, Texas.

Monica

by cheema1476, Jan 03, 2008 02:06PM

To: herbertmamma

Hi Monica,
Well I couldn't resist, I went to my mom's office and had an ultrasound. We were only able to find one heartbeat, when I say only, believe me I am still very happy. The other sac just seemed to stop growing and there was nothing inside. I go to my RE tomorrow and I will show them my ultrasound pics so we will see what he has to say. I am the type that likes to know early and have a easier let down if needed. Hopefully all will go well with this little one and I will finally be a mom in August. You are so right to stay positive, I think I will start prenatal yoga next week (although I am so not flexible).

$4500 that is not bad at all. Does that cover your meds too?

We live in Brighton Michigan just outside of Ann Arbor (Go Blue!). Here is my personal email address if you are interested. ericamerecki at yahoo.com
I have to spell it out like that or it will not post right.

Erica

by herbertmamma, Jan 03, 2008 03:58PM

To: cheema 1476

Erica

YEAH!!!!!!!! I am so happy for you two! thats wonderful! My cell number is 817-713-2883, keep me updated, as I will you. Its nice to talk to with you, since you and I have sooo much in common. Who knows we may have just started a long distance friendship.

Monica Herbert

by Biegal13, Jan 15, 2008 10:13PM

To: All

I had a FET on Jan 7th and took a home test today.... 9 days post transfer for three day embryo's. Feeling a bit sad b/c it was a negative. I didn't take a HCG shot b/c this was a frozen cycle.. so assuming this one is probably a BFN. I go in for blood work on Friday the 18th... but already preparing myself for try number three.

Thanks for listing your expeinces ladies... it really helps keep me going!

Nicole

by Biegal13, Jan 18, 2008 06:14PM

To: all

BFN for me today. Oh well. Going to keep on trying!

Best to all of you.

Nicole

by rfrost, Jan 20, 2008 08:26PM

To: all

I just wanted to send good wishes and tell all of you not to give up hope!!! Five years of trying, three failed IVFs with good eggs, one sudden miscarriage where we suddenly lost the baby's hearbeat and then.....I read a book "Is Your Body Baby Friendly?" by the late Dr. Alan Beer. As a result from what appeared to be wrong in our case (history of stroke, heart disease, blood clots, etc. in our family) and I started taking a baby aspirin a day. I had one period (during our first vacation ever to Hawaii, naturally) and the next month - PREGNANT. ONE OUR OWN. I was so shocked I didn't believe the pregnancy test. So I took FOUR. All positive. Naturally, I was convinced my hcg levels were raised because I must have cancer. That certainly seemed more believable that pregnancy!! The doctor's test that day revealed - pregnant. I am now 13 weeks and everything looks great. I still can't believe it and am a nervous wreck. But I just wanted to tell all of you it CAN happen - even when you least expect it.

Of course, the whole family thinks it happened in Hawaii and are using the "See, once you just relaxed it happened," B-llS--t. People just don't get it. That plus numerous females relatives saying, "I didn't have any problems getting pregnant" and then the sideways head tilt as they try to figure out what you must be doing wrong....ah, family. You just have to grin and realize they don't know what they're saying.

GOOD LUCK!!!!

by Glo99, Jan 30, 2008 03:47PM

To: all

I have my transfer on 1/25 in the morning. I do not want do any ept test. I'm 42 years old. I have done 6 IVF's I have decided not to do any pg test. But my question is, can we have symptoms after 5 days of the transfer. I do not hae sore brast a just fell some cramping

G

by cheema1476, Jan 31, 2008 07:21AM

To: Glo99

First of all, I wish you luck and success!
When I did my transfer it was on a Monday and I started to feel cramping around 2-3 days after transfer. I took and HPT on a Friday and there was a light positive. Since I have been through numerous IVF's (5)every time I did get pregnant I felt cramping. If it was negative there was no cramping at all. As for sore breasts I really didn't feel that until around 5-6 weeks. But everyone is different. I heard progesterone can mimic breat tenderness too.
Best of Luck!

by faith092207, Feb 02, 2008 02:55PM

To: all

I see lots of people have joined since I last posted here back in September. It's good to have so many people with positive energy. I sure need it.
I just did my third IVF. Three day transfer on 1/31. This time I only had one embryo to transfer. Doctor said it was a good embryo and that the chances are as good as having more than one embryo.
My last IVF resulted in a pregnancy but then it ended up being an empty sac. I will know whether or not this one took on February 12 but I have had so many dissapointments that I am not hopeful anymore. I can't wait to fo a HPT. This is truly nerve wrecking.

Good luck to everyone!

by cheema1476, Feb 02, 2008 05:29PM

I went back and read your other posts from Sept.. I hope this cycle will work for you and your husband. It is a very exhausting process to endure let alone 3. Since your husband quit smoking did it seem to improve your embryo quality?
Best of luck and stay positive......it can really help.

by faith092207, Feb 02, 2008 08:19PM

Thank you for your reading and responding to my post :-)
I am trying to stay positive and I even keep on talking to my belly but it is hard not to get down at the same time. I am so bloated I can't fit on my clothes. I don't mind all this body changes because it is for a good cause but it is still a hard thing to go through.

I had so much hope in this attempt. My husband did quit smoking, no alcohol, minimum caffeine and a daily vitamin and this attempt was worst than the previous ones, since we only got one embryo :-( it'a very frustrating.

I admire you for trying the IVF so many times, I don't know if I can go through this again.
Your post gives me hope because I do feel a little bit of cramps which I don't remember feeling before. May be the little embryo is working hard to get attached and grow.

I am sure that your light positive will become a powerful positive and I will pray that you have a healthy baby :-)

Keep in touch!

by cheema1476, Feb 03, 2008 08:03AM

Craming is a good sign! :) I did a visualization CD also....it was so helpful.
I know, it is so hard to go through. I guess my husband and I have a goal, to have our own. My husband is not into adopting so I had to press on.
After my fourth attempt with my first doctor, I decided to switch RE's. It was a very hard decision but I needed change. My egg and embryo quality was not good with my first RE.
This time around I researched more and found a new clinic that was set up by Dr. Schoolcraft from Colorado. Colorado has the highest rates of success in the country. I live in Michigan so I was happy this new clinic was close to me.I met the MI RE and staff and was impressed.
This past cycle I produced the most eggs ever, best quality ever and finally had 4 blastcysts with 2 to freeze. I have never had a blast nor did anything ever freeze. I was seriously thinking about donor eggs before. Glad I didnt do that now knowing all I needed was a change.
My point is, God forbid this cycle doesn't work. Please do not give up if this is something you really want. If you can look into other RE's with better labs and different protocol.
My latest cycle was soooooooo different from the previous ones, it was great actually. Very spiritual. Right after I did the transfer I did acupunture and listened to Enya. Then I came home and listened to a visualization CD and did so for the weeks to follow. It was very relaxing!
Best of luck, stay positive!

by faith092207, Feb 03, 2008 09:27AM

Thanks so much for the great advice.
My husband is not interested in adopting, at least he is not at that point yet. If this attempt does not work, I really was considering going to another clinic. I am losing trust in this doctor. I am going to look into the doctor you recommended because if there is going to be a 4th time then I would have no problem going to Colorado. (after all I've always wanted to visit Colorado :-)

The clinic I go to is the furthest thing from spiritual but I thought all clinics are like that. The doctor hardly sees you and is very impersonable.

I am still going to keep my fingers crossed but I will also start researching about Dr. Schoolcraft.

Also, this is my e-mail, I'd love to keep in touch and sometimes this website does not come up: icsi092007 at hotmail .com

Thanks again for giving me hope!

by cheema1476, Feb 03, 2008 02:54PM