how many days after embryo transfer will i get pregnancy symptoms

[Kim104]

Hello,

It has been awhile!    I have now have had 4 failed IVF's and today is my follow up appointment with my doc.  At this point what should I be asking my doc?  Every time he tells me that everything went perfect and that I am at a perfect age and he just can't explain why it is not taking.  We are down to our final vile of my husband’s semen and we also have one frozen embryo.  I am really starting to loose hope, but I feel like there is some definite drilling I should be doing at my appointment.  We have even talked about seeing another doc, but we have a warranty program that we would have to withdrawal and we would loose over $3,000 then have to start over at least $17,000 without meds as I am sure you are all aware.

[LilyMF]

In this IVF cycle are you going to only transfer the 1 frozen embryo?

If you are going to go through the whole cycle to get more eggs and fertilize them, then maybe you should talk to your doctor about transferring more embryos then in the past.

Another thing you might need to look at is the embryo quality and at what day you had them transferred.

[LilyMF]

We were able to get my husband's sperm through TESA.  We were able to get 5 embryos fertilized.  By day three 1 had died and the doctor told me that he didnt want to wait until day 5 because the womb is a better incubator.  Now, he ended up transferring all 4 embryos.

Good luck on your next cycle.  I hope this one is successful.

[Kim104]

The first retrieval we got 13 eggs and we ended up with seven embryos.  He transferred two the first fresh, two the first frozen and three the second frozen. Because of my age and the quality of my embryos he will not do anymore then two three at the max.  The second retrieval we got nine eggs and of those we only got three embryos and he said they are all very good quality.  He transferred two of those this last time on day five.  Like I said I have only one frozen left.  After meeting with him today he said he knows what the problem is.  With my first child I had a c-section and he thinks that is the problem and he has a new tactic that he is pretty sure will work for a positive pregnancy this time.  He wants us to go with the one embryo this next time as well as he said it is great quality.  We will see, thanks for kind insight for the future!

[KC40]

I'm just joining the group after reading through all of your stories. This seems like a great way to share what we're going through with people who can truly understand. I started this whole fertility treatment thing fairly late in the game (age 38, and I'm now 40), because until then I wasn't having a problem getting pregnant. I have had 5 miscarriages and 1 successful pregnancy... which unfortunately resulted in us losing our dear son 3 months later due to a very rare illness. I'm now 40, and we've had 4 IUIs and just finished our first IVF with 2 transferred embryos. Almost a week to go until my blood test. Seems like forever! It's hard to be positive after so much negative history, but I'm trying to stay hopeful even though I feel no symptoms whatsoever. We have one more frozen embryo, and if this time doesn't work we will try the frozen one, and then I think we'll have to say that enough is enough. 7 years of trying to have a family is starting to take its toll...

[LilyMF]

Wow I am so sorry for your loss.  Don't loose hope.  When I was waiting for my pregnancy test I didn't have any symptoms either, and it ended up being positive.  Good luck and keep us informed!

[mara8888]

Hi, I am new to this forum and would like to be part of this group. I am 35 and just started my IVF cycle this month. I had egg retrieval 28th of October and trasfer after 5 days which was last Monday of this week. Now is my day 4 after trasfer, I freaked out cause I felt pain on my left lower side. I had previous ectopic pregnancy 2001 and so rang the nurse. She said that it is just normal to feel pain few days after the trasnfer, has anyone felt this way as well? Now, I am waiting for my test next thursday 12th of Nov, the wait is just so hard, that, I am getting really bored until I galnce to this forum. This forum is really a good way to express how we feel and how others feel and this way we could support each other who has the same thing we are going through. I would really aprreciate someone to talk to me and encourage me.

[diamondgcm]

Hi,
I'm new to this forum and too would like to join. Its so good to read your stories as it makes me feel that I am not alone. I am 38 now, had 4 MC's 11 years ago and also a daughter, born at 26 weeks (by C-sect too), but unfortunately she died at 5 months. Since then I have been unable to get pg and am now on my first IVF. I started down reg in June but had to stop and have a hysteroscopy as they spotted some whitening on the scan. Thankfully all was OK and I started the next cycle in Sept. I had my egg retrieval on 27th Oct 2 embryos transferred  on day 2 (with 7 out of 9 eggs fertilised). I am now in the dreaded 2ww and am finding it really hard...feeling every twinge etc and no symptoms as yet. I too test next Thurs. Trying to be hopeful but its difficult with whats gone on in the past. Wishing you all good luck.

[KC40]

Thanks for the encouragement, Lily. I will just keep hoping. And congratulations to you... you must be so excited! It's so encouraging to see good news posted on this site.

Mara, I wouldn't worry at all about the pain a few days after the transfer. That's about the time the embryo(s) would be trying to implant. I would take that as a good sign. At least you're feeling something, so you know that something is happening. Good luck to you next Thursday, but more importantly, hang in there until then!

And diamondcgm, I can so relate to your story. It's tough to go through all of this after so many losses, isn't it?  I'm so sorry about your daughter. How long ago was she born? My son was born 6 years ago and we've been trying to get pregnant ever since (even before he was born I had 1 miscarriage). I find that having had the experience of motherhood for a very short time makes me want it even more. I wish you all the luck in the world. I'm crossing my fingers for all of you!

[diamondgcm]

Thanks for your thoughts. My daughter, Holly, was born over 11 years ago now. I cant believe where the time has gone. That was hard in itself as she never made it out of hospital in her short 5 months and it was a real emotional roller coaster....now she is watching over me...Had 3 MC's after she was born and like you have been trying ever since. I too agree with what you are saying...it sort of makes you want it even more. Trying to stay positive and its really helping reading so many stories that are having success. This 2ww is lasting forever! What day do you test? Thinking of you all...

[KC40]

Yes, it's heartbreaking to watch them suffer. My James was out of hospital for just over a week and that was all. It was at the height of SARS (and we're not far from Toronto) so it was pretty scary being at the hospital since his immune system was pretty much nil. Holly and James are both watching over us... let's hope they'll both have a sibling at the end of all this.

It's so nice to talk to someone who has had a similar experience. Sometimes I feel like I'm the only one who's had to endure so much. Some people make it seem like having kids is so easy... I hear people comment that they're planning to get pregnant in the spring, or that they'll have a baby 2 years after their first one is born. I would love to have the luxury to believe it could actually happen that way for me. Some people are luckier than others, I guess.

My blood test is this Tuesday, unless I start bleeding before then, in which case I will go in earlier. Apparently I have to go for the blood test regardless, just in case it's an ectopic pregnancy or something. I don't relish the thought of going back to that darn clinic again pretty much knowing that I'm not pregnant, but I guess they have good reason.

Here's hoping all of us will soon be able to join Lily in the IVF success club!

[9yrshoping]

I am very new this forum and had my transfer last saturday. I am still on progestrone shots, which hurts very badly:0( my dh can't even hug me when sleeping. But i had a question i am already starting to have syptoms (symptoms) of pregnancy. Can anyone tell me if that's what i am feeling or shot the shots. My Dr. transfer four embabies.

[hopefulmiranda]

hi, I'm 27and I went through my first IVF in September/October and had 4 embryos transferred on October 2nd. By the following monday I begin to notice I was very sensitive to odors, odors I would usually like, then on tuesday night I begun having cramping and nausea which has not gone away and of course tiredness, I am almost 8 weeks pregnant!!! I did a home pregnancy test on friday 10/9 and it was positive and again on sunday the 11th. On monday the 12th I had my blood test to confirm it....so good luck to you, i do believe that it's possible. It happened to me with  my 2 previous pregnancies, all the symptoms 1 week before my period was due and no one would believe me. Unfortunatelly one ended in miscarriage at 5 weeks and the other one an ectopic :(

good luck to you!!!!!

[KC40]

Well ladies, that's it for me. My period started this morning and my blood test confirmed that I'm not pregnant. I wasn't due to go for my test until Tuesday, but I was pretty sure I wasn't pregnant since every other time I was, I felt symptoms a week before my period was due (just like hopefulmiranda was saying). We have 1 frozen embryo still, but I think we're going to put things on hold for a while. This has been a long haul and I think we both need a break from it. This may just be the way things were meant to be.

To 9yrshoping: what kind of symptoms are you feeling? If it's sore bbs and tiredness, that is probably just the shots. But if it's more than that (peeing a lot, sensitivity to odours, etc.), I'd say there's a good chance you're preg. I've been pregnant 6 times (no family to show for it, unfortunately), and each time I noticed having to pee a lot (esp at night, which I never do otherwise). Another symptom for me is my hair gets really limp and won't do anything I want it to do! Those 2 symptoms combined are pretty much a guaranteed pregnancy for me. But of course everyone is different. I hope it works out for you!

And to diamondcgm and mara: Good luck to you both on Thursday. I will check back next week to hopefully see your good news!

To Lily and Miranda: Good luck with your pregnancies. I hope everything goes smoothly for both of you!

[mara8888]

To KC40, thank you for your encouragement. I am so pleased to hear all those words from you, just makes my day. Im' still hangin in here and can't wait for thursday.

To diamondcgm, good luck to you...I'm sending you too lots of baby dusts. I will pray for a +tive results for both of us and those the girls whose taking their blood tests next week.

The pain has gone now, just an intermittent cramps but very tolerable. Seems I've got a lot of wind inside me. I'm not picky with the smell yet but get nauseated at times. I am very positive of the result, I really would like to be a mom soon as this has been waited for 10 years now. I am 34 years old now and would like to cuddle my own baby in my arms. Does this symptoms a good sign?

All response are all appreciated and I will keep you posted on thursday of my results.
Best of luck to everyone and may God hear our prayers..

[mara8888]

KC40, I really feel so bad for you, Im so saddened for your loss but then again we have to move and don't lose hope. It has always been my encoragement to KEEP ON TRYING until we get it.I know that sounds easy to say but hard to do. I will pray for your fast recovery both physically and emotionally. I had miscarriage twice this year and I know what you're going through.  You will always be on my prayers adn will be thinking a lot of you tonight.

Be strong and hang in there.

[Kim104]

KC40 Sorry that it didn't turn out for you!  I think a break is a good idea.  After having three falures last year I decided to take the summer off.  It really helped and even now coming back and having yet another failure it is allot easier to take after coming back from a break.  It really helps you know that there is life out there besides what we are goining through and that if it is meant to be it will!  

So I had my follow up post IVF follow up last Wedneday!  My doctor He he thinks he has discovered the fact why my embryos are not attaching to the uterus.  He said because I had a c-section with my son that he is having a hard time seeing and getting the embryos in the exact correct place.  He proceeded to say that he is pretty confident that he has created a new tool and a new ultrasound method that will work for us, and told us AGAIN that he will get us pregnant.  He also did say though that before he thought of this method he might have had told us that the only way for us to have a child would be for us to have someone carry our child for us-which we would nerver do.  SO with all that being said he wants us to go ahead with another procedure.  We have one frozen embryo left from this last cycle and only one vile of my Ron's seamen left.  He wants us to go with the one frozen embryo this time and he is pretty confident that this will result in a positive out come.  So we are going to go ahead again the date is set for December 10th!  
Sorry that was really long!

[mommylove570]

Hi I have been reading these helpful forums for quite a while now since starting IVF and now feel ready to join in . I had my embryo transfer on Monday November 2nd.We had 8 at ER 5 mature and three grade 1 embryos .At ET we had two excellent embies transferred and one frozen .This was a day three transfer.I am so nervous I did have some mild to moderate cramping post transfer .But what I am questioning is a sharp tingly feeling that you may or may not say is a **** that I felt day 4&5 post tranfer.Believe it or not ladies I am a RN I am supposed to have the answers , but I am totally clueless.I dont know what to believe.I also noticed that the cramps are secluded to one side .My question is , did any of you guys who had a successful IVF cycle have this as an implantation symptom?

[mommylove570]

***** That meant cramp , I dont know how that happened.LOL

[mara8888]

I did felt the same thing as you 3-4 days after my transfer. I rang my clinic and was told that this is just normal few days after the egg retrieval coz your ovaries are still swollen from the puncture, that is why it is secluded in either the right or left. I was advised to take paracetamol which was really helpful. We have the same date of transfer, but I don't know your first blood test. Mine is on thursday 12th. Hoping for a positive result.
The pain are all gone except for on and off gas pains. This is my day 6dpt and my bbs are swollen, Im feeling sensitive to smell too. Im off from work during this whole process until I'm sure I've got a baby growing inside me. So waiting is a lot difficult.

Sending you lots of baby dusts.

[diamondgcm]

Just catching up on the latest...

KC40 - I am so sorry to hear your news, my thoughts are with you. To be honest I think that I might be joining you soon as for the last couple of days I have been getting stomach  pains (like my period is about to start). I also have no other symptoms and like you when I have been pregnant before my bbs have been very sore - but nothing for me as yet. I have come to the conclusion that I dont think its good news this time but I have to wait until Thurs for my blood result...seems a waste waiting now as I know what the outcome is going to be.....I just want it over now so I can get on and of course have a good cry! However, I shall be having one very large glass of wine come Thurs evening!! :-)

mara8888 - I will be thinking of you too on Thurs. How are you feeling right now?

Kim104 - good luck for 10th Dec. I will be checking back to see how you get on as I am wondering if that's my prob too, having had a c-sect myself.

Lots of baby dust to everyone...

[KC40]

Kim104: It's great to hear that your doctor is trying to problem-solve and coming up with new theories and new things to try. It sounds like he's a keeper. My doc just sits there with a blank look on her face and occasionally mumbles something that's barely discernable. Not exactly the best bedside manner, and it doesn't give you the most confidence in her either. But supposedly she has a great reputation, and besides that, she runs the only clinic in town (sigh). But all that to say that it all sounds very positive for you, and I really hope this new idea works for you next time.

Diamondgcm: Maybe you should ask your doc about the c-sect too and see what he/she says. Worth a try!  And I know exactly what you mean about just wanting to get it over with. That's how I felt exactly. I had all the signs that my period was coming and no signs of pregnancy, so I crawled under the covers and felt sorry for myself for a day or so and pretty much dealt with the fact that it wasn't going to happen. But then I was just praying for my period to hurry up and come (since I already knew it was coming) so I could get my last trip to the clinic over with for the preg test and move on. And more importantly, so I could finally have that very large glass of wine as well!  Great minds think alike. :-)   I really hope you're wrong about not being prg, but after all the "practice" you've had, you're probably pretty good at recognizing the signs. So hang in there... Thursday is just 2 days away!  Let us know how things turn out.

[diamondgcm]

Thanks KC40 - yeah that's what I've been doing...crawling in to bed and hiding under the covers!! like you say not long to go now and I will know either way. I'll keep you posted. hope you are OK too.

[KC40]

Yeah, I'm OK. The initial realization was a little tough, but it gets better. I hate to say it, but after so much bad news you almost start to get used to it. I think I would have been more surprised to find out I was pregnant, and absolutely incredulous to make it through the process without miscarrying AND have a healthy baby at the end. I can barely remember a time when I just took all of that for granted. Some might say that I'm not thinking positively, but I personally think I'm just being realistic... a way of protecting myself, I guess, so I don't get my hopes up too much.

OK, enough of the psychoanalysis!  :-) This is such a tough thing to go through, and I think that despite the outcome, all of us deserve a medal for making it this far. Personally, I was terrified of the retrieval process... in fact, that kept me from doing IVF for a long time. But in retrospect, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. Did anyone else feel that way?

Well, diamondgcm, all I can say is, if you want to crawl under the covers and cry, by all means do it!  Even if things don't work out this time, it sounds like you have lots of extra eggs that fertilized... were they able to freeze any?  Just 2 more days and counting!  I'm still hoping for you!!

[diamondgcm]

Funny, reading your last post is exactly how I feel....I have the very same thoughts...about it lasting, about being realistic and about protecting myself.

For both my retrieval and transfer I had general anaesthetic so I wasn't aware of anything! Was scared being knocked out, but I've had quite a few ops now I am getting used to it and it meant I got a good sleep :-)

Yeah they managed to freeze the other 5 which is good, although I don't know if the chances of success are any different if they are frozen? I'll see what they say tomorrow when they call. I may give it one more go and then will see what happens. I have thoughts in my head to keep going, on the one hand, (as my friend tried for 19 times and on the 20th was successful and had a baby last year) but on the other hand I don't know how much physically and emotionally more I can take and also we have to pay for it so its costing lots of money.

I'm thankful for my health (apart from not being able to have a baby) so am fortunate in that respect and thats what keeps me happy and smiling, along with lots of other things.... Am glad tomorrow is nearly here, to know one way or the other..its been a v long wait as I am sure you can all vouch for!

[diamondgcm]

Think my instincts may have been right as I have started bleeding! Called the hospital and they said that I've still to go in tomorrow to make sure.....the wine is chilling in the fridge :-)
take care...

[KC40]

I'm so sorry to hear that... are you doing OK?  Sounds like you expected it, and at least now you pretty much know the answer, but that doesn't necessarily make it any less disappointing.

You got general anaesthetic for the retrieval and transfer? I'm so jealous! Are you in the States, by any chance? I think things are a lot different between the US and Canada. I begged my doc to put me out for the retrieval but she couldn't. The clinic isn't equipped for it, so I just got an IV drip with some good painkillers. Not sure what kind, but they worked pretty well, combined with a couple of Ativan to keep the anxiety in check. No drugs at all for the transfer, but it was (relatively) painless.

Glad to hear you still have 5 frozen embryos. I know there are some differences between clinic stats, but the stats from my clinic were about 30% for a fresh transfer for our age group (over 35). For frozen, they dropped to about 23% regardless of age group. So I guess it's not that much of a difference, and in your case you can probably get more than one transferred again. I'm guessing it's a lot cheaper too since you don't have to go through the drug therapy and retrieval part of it. For us it was about $10,000 for the cycle I just did. If I go ahead with a frozen transfer in the future, it will be more like $4,000. We're not covered under any insurance for it. What about you?

And oh my goodness, your friend went through this 20 times??  How on earth did she afford it? I'm hoping she at least had lots of frozen embryos so didn't have to go through the entire process each time!  But I guess it just goes to show that if you want this badly enough, persistency is the key. Good for her!

Well, I hope you're doing OK. Let me know the news tomorrow, and we can have a glass of wine "together"!  I've got a nice bottle of Shiraz just waiting to be opened.

And after all this is done, I'd love to keep in touch. Seems like we have lots in common. :-)

[KS36]

Iam new to this chat.
After reading all of your stories I had a smile on my face at some situations and
sad when you guys felt sad.
KC40 - Just love your attitude. Cheers to the wine you are gonna have..for me I cant have it yet , until I get myself checked this Sunday the 15th for the 6th Attempt of IVF.
I hv had several IUI and IVF 10 yrs ago.. with 4 embroys transfer each cycle.
3 years ago we did a Blastocysts stage transfer and it was positive , unfortunately my Haromonal level dropped with each day ending it to be an unsuccessful transfer.
We've got into the mood again.. and now lets see what is in store.

Feels great to have new bunch of friends.

Cheers to all and God is great !!!

[diamondgcm]

Unfortunately my instincts were right and it's not good news this time.....so will just have to try again! On the positive, I can now go get that cold glass of wine tonight! good luck to the rest of you...my fingers are crossed for you...

KC40 - yeah would be great to keep in touch. In a funny kind of way, although I am very upset I am also relieved as i've had confirmed my thoughts and now there is no more waiting and I can just get on with things. I think I'll take a few weeks out at least and enjoy Xmas and start a fresh in the New Year. I've still got a couple of years in the old body yet!! I am seeing the consultant on 14th Dec just to see what he thinks - whether to go for fresh again or frozen etc...We are actually in the UK and I had the generals mainly because they have trouble accessing my cervix so in that way they could bend me any which way they wanted!!

have a glass of wine for me tonight too - I'll raise a toast to us and future bambinos :-) take care and speak soon.

[KS36]

Sorry to hear that news. But , again Hats Off to your thinking to get on with things.
Will want to know about your next visit on the 14th of Dec.
Iam 36 now...how many years do I got? Pls do advice me.
One of my friend has the same cervix problem , she has a girl aged 4 and no chance of getting pregnant after that.
You are strong lady and very practical in your sentences.Keep it up.
All my very best wishes.

[KC40]

To mara and mommylove: Just wondering how things are going with you guys... any news yet?

KC36: Welcome!  I think you're going to really enjoy this forum. It is great to have a new bunch of friends who really understand what you're going through. And thank you for the compliment. To be honest, I haven't always had such a good attitude, but eventually all the negativity and resentment gets a little exhausting, so we just have to take it as it comes, right?  And don't worry, you have plenty of time left still if you're only 36. I just turned 40 and am still at it... my doc said I probably only have a year or two left, but what it really depends on is your hormone levels, and everyone is different. But I would say you probably have until at least 40.

diamondgcm: I'm glad you finally got your confirmation, because I totally know what you mean about it being a relief. One more cycle is behind you now and you can move on and enjoy the holiday season. Enjoy that nice cold glass of ... Pinot Grigio? Chardonnay?  And I will enjoy one as well and think of you. Sorry you didn't get the outcome you were hoping for, but you certainly gave it your best shot, and that's all you can do. I'll be curious to hear what your consultant says on the 14th. Keep us informed!
And by the way, check your inbox at the top of this page... I've sent you a message with my contact info so we can stay in touch later.

I will check back and see how you other ladies are doing. Good luck to all of you!

[chloe70]

Hi,
New to the forum and now 7 days post day 5 transfer of two nice embies. Feeling a bit crazy, have sore bbs and finding I do pee more. Does your head in trying to analyze it all but I know I am preaching to the choir :)  But just wanted to post and say a big thank you to you all for your stories and comments. They've brought me a lot of comfort and I wish all the best for each of you.

[KS36]

Tommorow is the Day for me for the Blood test. My bbs are not sore and I did hv my waist pain and numbness on my legs(symptoms of my periods) but no bleeding this morning.I dont understand the game plan here. At one time , i get this feeling its a "NO" and amazingly now my waist pain and the numbness has gone.. So does that Indicate a "Yes"...phew...
I put myself to sleep with a lot of Difficulty so I dont think too much about it.
I prayed. But, also deep down know what has to happen will happen.
Either it is a Yes or a No , and there's this fear if it is Yes , the agony is not over yet.
I will hv to be very careful still.
Iam so impatient.