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Blood Type O and Possible Fibro-To take or not to take Cimbalta
I am an O +, and follow closely the O Blood Type food plan. Only problem I have is  so little control over the increased work load &  stress as a teacher. I have plans to retire in 2 years and 30 weeks to be more in control of the stress.
Until then,  I will have to endure the pain -possible Fibro. [Had endometriosis, and hysterectomy.] Suffer from fatigue and the typically O-hypothyroidism [as is typical for Os.]

My question- a new Dr. wants to put me on Cimbalta. Is this asking for trouble as an O blood type? I read over 200 responses of folks taking this and and most talked about terrible side effects.
I do not think I will end up using this Rx.
What is your opinion?
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1530171 tn?1448133193
I don't know much about hypothyroid and type O, other than the fact that people with  type O blood (I'm one too) have a genetic predisposition to hypothyroidism, A/I conditions and low iodine. Is here a connection ?

Aside from this, I think that your chronic stress can be still  addressed
under your present circumstances.
You are most likely suffering from some level of adrenal fatigue, which if not corrected can lead to more serious issues, specially when there's organ involvement, mainly in light of its connection to low thyroid function.
And treating the thyroid without treating the adrenals first, does not work well in the long run.

Cymbalta may be just slightly more effective than the placebo, nonetheless, the potential numerous side effects-regardless of blood type-
to my opinion take away the slight advantage over the placebo.
Correcting the adrenals at this point makes more sense to me than opting for cymbalta.
Also search here for a thread I started under "IWILLDOTHIS" for helpful hints and suggestions to deal with your symptoms

As I posted earlier to another member, our bodies can produce endorphins
which are up to 40.000 times stronger than the best heroin one can buy,
with the ability to take care of severe pain and make us feel great.
So correcting any underlying serious imbalances which may be interfering with  this process is a big part of our health improvement and wellness plan.

Let me know if need any details on adrenal fatigue and how to go about it.

I hope this helps, but please note that this is not intended as a substitute for medical advice.

Wishing you well.
Niko

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Anyone can have an adverse side affects with an SSRI drug. I have a 2001 copy of Eat Right 4 Your Type that I haven't looked at in years.

I had another look since you mention hypothyroidism. Interesting since I'm type O+ and have hypothyroidism. Dr D'Adamo talks about ketosis for O blood types "ketosis is the result of high protein high fat with few carbohydrates". I eat similar to this. Very interesting! And I do have a hardy digestive tract too.

Dr D'Adamo states in his book "saturated fats have been proven to be a risk factor for heart disease" which isn't true. The cholesterol and saturated fat causes heart disease hypothesis has never been proven. The show Catalyst was aired here in Australia and watched by about a million people if not more.  You can check out the episode if you are interested on youtube: Heart of the Matter Part 1 - Dietary Villains.

I'm not sure if you are eating a ketogenic diet but I did read this article....
"Dr Annika Dahlqvist, MD – the first LCHF pioneer" which is enlightening on how the wrong diet can cause widespread pain...

"One day in October 2004, her daughter came home from medical studies and told her about an experiment on diets, and her daughter´s low carb group was the most successful one for weight loss. Dr Dahlqvist started immediately with a low carb diet of maximum 5 % of carbs per 100 gr. She started to lose weight but she felt hungry and weak because she was still fat frightened.

She read a lot of articles on the internet, for example by Uffe Ravnskov, and she started to eat saturated fat like butter, and other good oils. She lost 1 kg (2.2 pounds) each week and during that winter she lost 20 kg (44 pounds) and she got rid of her fibromyalgia and her IBS. To sum it up; she ate delicious food, never felt hungry between meals, her sugar cravings disappeared, she lost weight, and she got rid of her fibromyalgia and IBS."
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I'm with you on this Red Star, I have the book too and honestly
I haven't read it in its entirety, but I have to agree with you about the
cholesterol and  saturated fat myth, which still plays like an 30+ year old broken record.
Most of my calories come from virgin organic coconut oil, extra virgin Olive oil (only fresh and not in cooking), quality protein from pastured meats with ALL their fat, low mercury cold water fish, some rice, potatoes, tons of organic greens and vegetables, some legumes and some fruit.

Heart and cardiovascular disease is rooted in inflammatory processes, not in cholesterol. Cholesterol is only a marker which is treated as a cause by conventional medicine  (missing completely the target!) and the pharmaceuticals (can't blame them for making extra billions from the sale of statins if we are so gullible) .

As for the best diet , I recommend you also check metabolic typing.
Dr Mercola has a free metabolic typing questionnaire/assessment on his website.

Cheers!
Niko
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Yes this is one hypothesis that has far surpassed its used by date.  The French Paradox only exists because it goes against this hypothesis. "By denying scientific principles, one may maintain any paradox." - Galileo Galilei. Indeed.
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Yes, I am aware of the issue w/ adrenal fatigue. I will look into this again. I had a hysterectomy, which makes it more obvious the domino effect -no ovaries over works the adrenals that taxes the other glands.
I am on identical plant based hormones that help somewhat, but the stress of the ob must be addressed.
I lent my book on Adrenal Fatigue to someone and not sure who has it. What points do you recommend?
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1. Possible pre-existing and concurrent adrenal,ovarian and thyroid imbalance, before your endometriosis and hysterectomy.

2.   Cortisol, adrenaline, thyroid, insulin, estrogen and other hormonal dysregulation with common symptoms like fatigue, hypo-tension,
hypoglycemia, stress and anxiety, sleep issues, heart, low body temperature, arrhythmias/palpitations, menstrual problems, hypothyroidism, have been manifesting.

3. Conventional medicine is unable to implement any constitutional therapeutic approach, other than invasive procedures and /or symptom management. Testing often is inaccurate.
Cortisol levels for example cannot be determined by the "established" serum testing as the results will reflect TOTAL cortisol (the sum of bound and unbound cortisol levels). Saliva testing is recommended.
TSH, T3 and T4 (standard thyroid blood tests) do not indicate accurately
thyroid function, only blood levels. Free T3 and free T4 along with reverse T3
are the truer indicators of cellular thyroid function (not an established testing method of endocrinology)
Adrenal fatigue is not an established diagnosis.
It is not recognized till it becomes an adrenal crisis (which is pass stage 3 -adrenal exhaustion-) which unfortunately may come with some irreversible damage.

4. You may want to consider a Holistic or Naturopathic  Doctor who really knows about Endocrine disorders and doesn't follow the somewhat distorted model of endocrinology and their "established" protocols.
I will send you on a pm an adrenal fatigue questionnaire and some links.

5. Optimize your nutrition, your breathing, your fitness regiment according to your abilities and energy levels (swimming, walking, biking, yoga, tai-chi will help you release endorphins and boost your immune system and activate your lymphatic system.
Meditate daily, listen to meditation CDs if unable to meditate on your own to help you distress, seek a hypnotherapist and have several sessions for stress management including hidden stress.
You will also learn self hypnosis, a very valuable tool on demand to help you with just about any issue that comes your way.

I sleep only 5-6 hours every night, following meditation or self-hypnosis,
and I wake up re-freshened and able to deal with various stressful situations
throughout the day on a daily basis, in a very stress-free way.

I will be sending you the pm soon.

Wishing well.
Niko
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Fibromyalgia if correctly diagnosed is CHRONIC. Symptoms may reduce and hide for a while but it does not disappear.  I would hesitate to guess that gal never had it in the first place and if she does, I sure hope they symptoms dont flare.
I'm an 0- blood and have read over the years that this has nothing to do with how we lose weight. I do have hypothyroid, severe FMS/CFS, and all the symptoms under the FMS umbrella. Severe osteoarthritis with two knee replacements etc.  Many people of other blood types share these same illnesses.
It is healthier, according to Dietitians and most Doctors etc., to follow a Mediterranean type lifestyle: eating more fish and vegetables, olive oil etc. less starches and so on.  
Your all seem very knowledgeable in what your saying...but I personally think it may be more of a "fad" diet.   Please understand...I'm not trying to insult anyone, but it seems that in general....we tend to grab onto the newest trend or book instead of something more tried and true.
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I am an O + blood type. I never heard of anything to do with your blood type and Cymbalta. However, I can tell you that I had horrible side effects when I took this medication. I currently take Lyrica and have been on it for awhile now. It so far has helped more than anything that I have been on. However I am talking to my Doctor about getting off of it for awhile since me and my husband want to have a baby and the medication says it is not safe at all to take while pregnant.
I hope that this helps a little bit. If you feel comfortable then try it out. If you do not then tell your Doctor and find something else. It is your body and you can tell them what you feel comfortable with and don't.
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Re. Cymbalta, I have been on it for years, low dose of 30 mg.  It helps me  a lot with pain.  Doesn't take it away but when I am off it, the pain is unmanageable.  I also take Nortriptyline 25 mg and Lorazepam .75 mg for sleep and this helps my pain also. I get intolerable side effects when I increase the dose of any of these meds, so I have had to use a combo of meds. It can be tricky to find the right drugs.  Different things work for different people, so I am just speaking from my own experience. I haven't tried Lyrica but know it helps some people.  

Hope this is helpful!
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