I've been having pain under my right front ribs for about two months, but not quite the same as most posters.  Mine started out as a horrible backache....felt like a knife/icepick jabbed in my back right ribs....it was constant where I couldn't sleep at all.  Sometimes the pain was so bad, I'd just bawl my eyes out.  I still went to work everyday but I was miserable.  The back pain finally went away after about 6 weeks, but I noticed the right side of my ribs hurt, like when you run too hard and get a side ache; and I have this pain under my ribs in front...it feels like something is in there, and sometimes feels like something is "caught".  By something I don't mean anything I can actually feel when touching the area(s)....I don't feel any lumps or anything.  I get sudden stabbing and stinging pains in the same spot that makes me lurch forward until they subside in a few seconds.  Sometimes it burns like a sunburn. Several spots are very tender to the touch.  It always feels like there's something tight across my front that runs under one breast to the other.. I don't have typical cramping, no nausea....it's up high on the right and center of sternum and moves to the right on my side like something is caught under my ribs.  After googling my symptoms for a few weeks, I'm finding that people with similar or near-similar symptoms are getting no answers from their doctors, so I'm hesitant to go through a battery of tests only to get misdiagnosed or be told they don't know what's wrong. I haven't really found anyone with my identical symptoms.  I can live with the pain if I just know it isn't anything like a tumor that might be growing as I delay getting medical attention.

my symptoms are all the same, and I just assumed that the pain was from my clips, but the pain has worsened over the years and is constant, I have degenerative disk, and was at one time, diagnosed with IBS, but that has tapered off quite a but. once in a while I still have an attack.  The pain now is pretty intense and constant. Sometimes it even feels like the ribs themselves are hurt from the inside, but then it feels like tender liver as well. What's bothering me, is that I have had gross chronic Hemoturia for a year, first thought to be injury related, then my Dr. thought kidney stones. I have had xrays for the back problems, recently an MRI (awaiting results) and a CT coming up this week. I'm wondering if the URQ symptoms would have anything to do with the mystery bleeding. Shell

I have had the same symptons for years although mine is a pressure on the upper right side that feels like it tightens  when I am under stress. It is very uncomfortable. Sometimes if feels like a brick is in my side. The doctors always call it pain but I keep telling them it very rarely hurts its just this constant pressure. When this all started, my thyroid was out of wack and I was diagnosed with Graves disease.  Also when this first started I was very sick on my stomach always nauseated. That lasted about a year.  I had radio active iodine to kill off the thyroid and now my thryroid is under control. I even had my gallbladder out but the pressure is still there. I had a test that said my gallbladder was near non functional. Like 1 point less and it would be considered non functional. I can't remember what it was exactly, I think maybe 34. Its been like 3 years ago. I had test after test after test and they never gave me a reason for the pressure. They tested my liver, I had two colonoscopies. The first one they did find polyps. Then had to have one a year later which came up good. I've been considering trying again and going to a different set of doctors but I hate getting on that marry-go-round again but feel like I shouldn't keep letting this go on.  This is so frustrating.

I am having the same right upper quad pain as well. it's been about a years and a half that I have had it. It feels like SOMETHING is there. It comes and goes and I can't really pinpoint it to any food or anything.

I eat healthy, no fried or greasy foods and I also drink tons of water daily and still, it will not go away. I finally went to ER last night, and left with NO answers. They even did an ultrasound, and didnt see anything. The doc thought it "might" be stones caught in my bile duct. (had gallbladder removed many years ago) but that was fine.

I am so frustrated and the dr told me to "go back on" the prilosec I stopped taking because I did not need it. And I have to go (back) to a gastroenterologist in two weeks.

When in the ER I told the dr's that you could actually feel where it was when I sat up.. And not ONE of them sat me up, they all told me to lie down!!

Doctors, for the most part s*ck. They NEVER listen. I am tired of this. I just want to be pain free.

hi i'm a 42 year old male and have had pain for about 3 months it is on my right side about 2 inchs from the middle of my rib cage if i push it hurts or it seems to be a dull pain most of the day i find it feels better after a long weekend or in the morning before i do any work. but by the end of the day it's preety sore i have had ultrasound , hida scan and have seen a gi doctor both my own doctor and my gi doctor told me it's  a pull and could take 6 months to heal. i don't know if i am crazy  or not but i think it's more then that i know my body and it does not feel like a pull what should i do  thank all

A possible solution for some:  
Short history:  57 yr old female w/ URQ pain and back pain for 3 years.  2 CT scans, 2 colonoscopy's, abd ultrasound, pelvic u/s, MRI of back etc. etc. All normal.  
WHAT I HAVE FINALLY DISCOVERED IS THAT I HAVE A VITAMIN D DEFICIENCY AND THAT CAUSES BOTH BONE PAIN (including of lower back) AND THE RISE IN YOUR PTH (PARATHYROID HORMONE) DUE TO LOW VIT D CAUSES ABDOMINAL PAIN.  
My abdominal pain started in a very stressful job 3 years ago and I thought after I quit the job it would go away.  Was told it was probably IBS and to eat yogurt.  The pain wavered a bit - sometimes worse than others, probably depending on how much vit d and calcium I was getting in my diet, but was still there for the last 2.5 years.  During that time I had CT scan, colonoscopy and abdominal ultrasound.  All normal.   Then, this summer when I took dairy out of my diet completely, hit me like a ton of bricks.  I  started having some severe other symptoms like:  feeling very old and depressed; waking in the middle of the night and couldn't go back to sleep (stll struggling w/ this a bit), black tarry stools, nausea and loss of appetite, fatigue, change in my water requirements and urination, hair falling out by the hands full.  This all prompted a lot of research and trips to specialists.  Even though the endocrinologist suggested I might have a vitD deficiency, when he saw my level was around 35, he didn't prescribe anything.  If you haven't already gone down this path -- go to www.parathyroid.com.  It is the best resource on the internet, bar none on this issue.  Vanderbilt Medical Center in Nashville has a website which lists 'constant pain in the side or back' as a symptom of parathyroid cancer.  Don't be alarmed though, apparently you have a better chance of getting struck by lightening than having PT (parathyroid) cancer.  I was told it is extremely extremely rare.  BUT, vit D deficiency and hyperparathyroidism exhibit the same symptoms.  These chemical work in tandem kind of --  if your VitD is low, your parathyroid will kick in and start pumping out extra pth (parathyroid hormone) in order to keep your blood calcium normal.  But pth, over a long time, can be very hard on the body apparently.  I talked to the nurse at the Norman Parathyroid Clinic in Tampa Florida today, gave her my calcium, vitD and parathyroid hormone levels (which I only got after I insisted my doctor run them) and she said it was pretty clear I had secondary hyperparathyroidism.  
I'm not saying this is the answer to all - but I would be a thousand dollars that it is the answer to quite a few.  Turn out Vit D deficiency is nearly epidemic -- both nationally and internationally.  Go to Amazon.com and look up and read about books on vitD and then order a couple.  Some docs are trying to get the word out there but it is very slow coming and so far at least, the 4 specialists (endocrinologist, gastroenterologist, internist and spine specialist) that I have been to are completely ignorant of this problem.  Even the endocrinologist sent me home w/ no prescription or anything because my 'vit d level' was within the range that he uses as 'normal'.  The nurse from the Norman Parathyroid Institute told me today that most people need a vit D in the 40's at a minimum to feel good.  Mine was 35...but since I have been taking vitD + calcium supplements the abdominal pain, AND the lower back pain (aching) has improved though not yet completely abated. It's been 3-4 weeks.  Also, if you are overweight, and have a BMI of > 30, you are at much greater risk for this problem.  Apparently, body fat inhibits the absorption of vitD/Calcium and it frequently becomes a problem for post menopausal women...esp if they are obese.  But, this isn't an overnight fix.  Apparently it takes several weeks for your body to get your VitD levels back up.  You can get it through sunlight or supplements but you should do some research on this subject.  
The IMPORTANT POINT IS THAT IT IS A CAUSE OF UPPER RIGHT QUADRANT ABDOMINAL PAIN AND BACK PAIN. SO, FOR ALL OF US LOOKING FOR A SOLUTION IN OUR ABDOMEN SOMEWHERE, IT MAY NOT BE THERE AT ALL.  IT COULD BE YOUR PARATHYROID REACTING TO LOW VIT D LEVELS.   AT LEAST THAT IS THE CASE IN MY SITUATION.  HAVING TAKEN VITD SUPPLEMENTS AND CALCIUM FOR 3-4 WEEKS NOW MY PAIN HAS IMPROVED SO THAT I DON'T FEEL IT MUCH DURING THE DAY BUT STILL FEEL IT AT NIGHT SOMETIMES.  And, in my readings, I found that pth is highest around 2am so maybe that is the reason I feel it more at night.  
I hope this helps some folks.  It may take a while to ferret out but get your doctor to run calcium, vitD and pth and see what the levels are.  Then don't just automatically believe that if they say they are in the 'normal' range, do some reading on the www.parathyroid.com site and other resources about VitD deficiencies.  Apparently hyperparathyroidism is misdiagnosed ALL THE TIME also.  See site referenced above.
One other thing:  I did read somewhere that tagamet (the over the counter antacid) would somewhat counter pth.  So, I'm going to try that tonight and see if I can get through the night without waking and having any side/abdominal pain from parathyroid hormone.  Every week it seems to be getting better.  I haven't noticed any abdominal pain all day today and I'm feeling much better during the day too!  

I to have some of the same problems . I am 23 years old and 97 pounds . I have been having stomach problems for the last five years . They first tried to tell me there was something wrong with my ovaries . I had exploratory surety about two years ago on them and nothing was found . I have been living with diarrhea all this time . This past march I ended up in the ER in terrible pain after having test done I was told that I had Gallstones and need my gallbladder removed . I had it removed in April and since then I am still having horrible pain under the sternum but even worse then before and I can't find a pattern of when I get it . I don't drink a lot but one time it did happen after drinking and I ended up in the hospital for three days but all the other times it happened I was not drinking . I have had barreum cat scans , mri's , upper gi scopes , and numerous X-rays . My blood work came back off once with my liver and pancreas but then went right back to normal
. When I get the pain it comes fast I got very hot dizzy nauseas and feel like I'm going to pass out what can this be someone please help my heart goes out to others who are going through all this it's awful !!

Thanks for this new slant on things.
This may very well help folks here.

I am not very low on D at 56.7 or Calcium at 9.7 but I would like to see my D level at 80 to 100.

I am insulin resistant and hypothyroid and regarding my URQ pain I began over a year ago with docs thinking gallstones, then ulcers, then myofascial, now small hernia near my stomach. Still not really sure. I am still taking a slew of Ulcer/ and mucosal lining supplements. I think I have a acid / alkaline issue- for along time I thought I had too much acid and now I am not so sure since taking 1 Tbls of Organic unfiltered Apple Cider Vinegar in 8 oz of water immediately stopped my worst pain recently. Easy enough to try when someone is in pain. Daily I will be trying 2 teaspoons of ACV  in 8 oz of water and see what that results. I also went Gluten free and began Egoscue Method of body work. Massage and Chiropractic sessions have also helped me.   I am looking for wisdom about the reason but also the meaning and purpose of my pain. My trust is in God via the Lord Jesus Christ and his Word. I pray you prosper and that it becomes well with your body and your soul. Again, thank you for sharing.

By way of update:
While I was thinking I have an ulcer (still not sure if I do or do not)...
I was doing a boat load of different things to help heal my Upper Right Quadrant  pain…
DGL-Deglycyrrhizinated-Licorice
MSM (sulfur)
A Wellness Resources product called GI Soother which has
Protein 3.5 g, Immunoglobulins 300mg, and Lactoferrin 45 mg
http://www.wellnessresources.com/products/gi_soother.php
Broad Spectrum Probiotic
Aloe Vera
L-Glutamine
Mucosa Max at https://www.ultralifeinc.com/Detail.asp?P=9062
Mastic Gum
Standard Process  product called A-F Betafood
Thorne Multi Vitamin
Wellness Resources Pine Nut Oil gel caps
Grape Bitters
Sea Buck Thorn (juice and capsules)
Cabbage and potato Juice
Manuka Honey Bio Active 10+
Egoscue Method Body Work for whole body alignment
Gluten Free Diet – mostly vegetarian diet

I really thought that Egoscue and Gluten free diet were the things that helped me the most so I as my supplements ran out I did not refill them.
I was pain free for about 2 months and then had a dental emergency with a cracked crown and an amalgam tattoo and failing root canal. Took Vicodin which I believe reactivated my Ulcer like URQ pain.  And I took Amoxicillin to prepare for the tooth extraction of the failing root canal. My upper right quadrant pain returned with a vengeance.  I began refilling and taking most all the above remedies.

My new doctor, Dr. Zachary Bush in Scottsville, VA thinks my pain is coming from a small hernia which because of it’s location being close to the stomach may have been causing an ulcer or ulcer like symptoms. He suggested an abdominal binder and for me to strengthen my abdominal core to support the area.  I thought great this makes sense. Got the abdominal binder and it made me feel worse.
I was recently in extreme pain and up in the early AM and decided to try a remedy that helped me when I thought my problem was gallstones.  Phyllis A. Bach in the fifth edition of Prescriptions for Nutritional Healing had suggested taking
1 tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar (ACV) with apple juice for relief from gallstone pain.
But this time I looked up peptic ulcer and found that it suggested a
Stomach Acid Self-Test using ACV on page 634
I tried 1 tablespoon of ACV in 1/4 c of water and I was immediately better.
The paragraph on this explained that that may be an indication that I have too little stomach acid.
Dr. Bush is an MD with an interest in endocrinology who leans toward Vegan and treating with food.
He is now suggesting I take 1 tlbs of ACV two to three times a day in between meals.
I would like to understand the thinking behind this but for now will just try it and see if it works.

I am still pretty much Vegetarian but perhaps my body is trying to adjust my diet and I have not been listening.

I have so many of these things to sort out and also strongly believe that my dental work is an issue!

Going to keep up the Egoscue Method Exercises, Gluten free diet, and try and get in some massage and chiropractic sessions.

Perhaps I am learning things that might help someone else sometime - I sure hope so.

Hope you have been well.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Faith, Hope, Love and Prayers!

My doc is just thinking I have a small hernia near my stomach.
Perhaps you might ask your doctor about that possibility. It has been over a year and a new doctor I am seeing just suggested that to me. He wanted me to wear an abdominal binder (brace) and strengthen my core. So far the binder has caused me to feel worse but I am proceeding to Egoscue Method to strengthen my core.
Hope you get help soon.  

omg i have been suffering this pain for 3 years now and my doctor does not know what it is, i am so frustrated and in pain... it started as a pain on my right side under my ribcage and sometimes round my back... it startd as a dull ache but has really intensified.. sometimes i hav trouble breathing, i am goin out of my mind! i have an ultrasound in the morning and i dont know how to explain it 2 them.... i am relieved to have found that i am not the only one, i have been so scared thinking dat i hav cancer on my liver or something..... this pain and confusion is taking over my life....

Nessie --  if they don't find anything, ask to have your VitD/Calcium and pth checked.  I have also struggled for 3 years.  Have had 2 CT scans, 2 abdominal ultrasounds, a pelvic ultrasound and an MRI on my back.  Had the same right abdominal pain that sometimes feels like it's in the front and sometimes feels like it's in my kidney area.  They never found anything in any of my tests.  They may look at you weird with the request for the above blood work but it could be something entirely outside your abdomen.  The pain was my predominant symptom until this summer when it morphed into other symptoms like nausea, sometimes bad diarhea (diarrhea), ,insomnia, feeling hot - esp at night, and more.  I finally found that many of my symptoms had to do with elevated parathyroid hormone which kicks in if your Vitamin D goes too low.  Vit D deficiency is apparently a worldwide epidemic....but more especially among women my age (57).  But...hopefully the ultrasound will tell you something and you won't have to go down this long road of no answers like many on this site.  Good Luck!!
rathycodes

Hi

I am 27 yrs old,basically very scared by nature. So i am very scared and confused now. Please help me.
I was having severe back pain 7 months ago. The doctor took a MRI scan and told that my lower back disc is week and asked me to go for physiotherapy. Then i felt better. After 2 months i had severe pain around my testicles and had some irritation during urination. my urine test said that i have UTI.I had this pain for few months, then suddenly my blood pressure increased and it was hitting around140-160/80-100 for about 2 months. For UTI, the doc gave me antibiotic to take 4 times a day. The tablet created uncomfortable pain in my stomach. Then after few days of taking tablets, i had pain in the center of the chest and below the left ribs. i am not sure is this because of the tablet or increase in BP.
I did a complete health check up including ECG and chest X-Ray. Everything was normal. Regarding pressure, it was fluctuation some time it is 130/80 and some times 150/90. Regarding my pain in the centre of the chest, the doctor gave me gasteric tablets but nothing helped me. I started feeling the pain around the chest,in shoulder blades and rarely in the arms. Then i did endoscopy and doctor told me that i have h.pyroli bacteria infection. Then i took antibiotics. I felt better. Mostly the pain is in the left upper abdomen. nowadays i can feel the pain around the chest. I did urea breathe test to check for bacteria and there is no bacteria now but still i feel the pain in left upper abdomen which also radiates around my chest. The doctor said that the gastric is still there which is giving this pain. But the pain is continuous. I dont feel the pain only when i lie down flat. I also dont have any prblm while sleeping. I dont have any urinary issue but i do have pains in the right and left lower abdomen may b near the kidney. I have also checked my kidney and everything is normal.whenever i control my urine passing and put one leg over the other while sitting, i can feel little discomfort around the kidney area.

So I would like to know, what is my exact problem.There is no history of BP,sugar or heart disease in my family. I am more worried about my chest pain and the pressure.I am worried if this can be any heart related problem. Do i need to do any other test for heart to check if it is related to the chest or something.
And i still have blood pressure fluctuation. What could be the reason for that. The doctors says nothing but i have this trouble everyday.

Thanks and Regards
Arun

Hi

I am 27 yrs old,basically very scared by nature. So i am very scared and confused now. Please help me.
I was having severe back pain 7 months ago. The doctor took a MRI scan and told that my lower back disc is week and asked me to go for physiotherapy. Then i felt better. After 2 months i had severe pain around my testicles and had some irritation during urination. my urine test said that i have UTI.I had this pain for few months, then suddenly my blood pressure increased and it was hitting around140-160/80-100 for about 2 months. For UTI, the doc gave me antibiotic to take 4 times a day. The tablet created uncomfortable pain in my stomach. Then after few days of taking tablets, i had pain in the center of the chest and below the left ribs. i am not sure is this because of the tablet or increase in BP.
I did a complete health check up including ECG and chest X-Ray. Everything was normal. Regarding pressure, it was fluctuation some time it is 130/80 and some times 150/90. Regarding my pain in the centre of the chest, the doctor gave me gasteric tablets but nothing helped me. I started feeling the pain around the chest,in shoulder blades and rarely in the arms. Then i did endoscopy and doctor told me that i have h.pyroli bacteria infection. Then i took antibiotics. I felt better. Mostly the pain is in the left upper abdomen. nowadays i can feel the pain around the chest. I did urea breathe test to check for bacteria and there is no bacteria now but still i feel the pain in left upper abdomen which also radiates around my chest. The doctor said that the gastric is still there which is giving this pain. But the pain is continuous. I dont feel the pain only when i lie down flat. I also dont have any prblm while sleeping. I dont have any urinary issue but i do have pains in the right and left lower abdomen may b near the kidney. I have also checked my kidney and everything is normal.whenever i control my urine passing and put one leg over the other while sitting, i can feel little discomfort around the kidney area.

So I would like to know, what is my exact problem.There is no history of BP,sugar or heart disease in my family. I am more worried about my chest pain and the pressure.I am worried if this can be any heart related problem. Do i need to do any other test for heart to check if it is related to the chest or something.
And i still have blood pressure fluctuation. What could be the reason for that. The doctors says nothing but i have this trouble everyday.

Thanks and Regards
Arun

To everyone battling undiagnosed abdominal pain, MAKE them check for adhesions, especially if you've had any kind of surgery. I have been in pain that get's higher than a  10 on a 1-10 scale, have been on pain pills I;d rather not be one, looked into nutritional (food & supplements), alternatives to Western Medicine and every intrusive diagnostic procedure which I swear has made things worse.
    Ultimately the Physical therapy (Visceral Mobilization) has been the one thing that has helped, has given any answers.... but essentially, the long and the short of it is that adhesions (scar tissue) has sort of spider-webbed between my internal organs and between the emergency hysterectomy from hemorrhaging uncontrollably and nearly dying 3 times and the pulling, stretching and shortening of the ligaments that hold everything in, and up, where it's all supposed to be.

I'm in the same boat,
Its december and since february I've been feeling this pain that comes and goes but mostly stays. I've gone to 3 different doctors, enzymes are normal, xrays came normal and the ultrasound showed no gallstones but a fatty liver. One doctor told me I worry too much I shouldn't cause everything came out normal. But I can't ignore the pain that wakes me up in the middle of the night! I'm not at peace but worried for not finding a solution and might be getting worse with time. What can I do?

i have pain right in middle of gut an to the left of the rib cage under neath also have strange bowel movements sometimes feeling sick sometimes throwing up have gained a lot of weight which im not happy about i also suffer with heart burn pretty badly have had endoscopy colonstompy and the helipro antibiotics to clear an ulcer still im in pain and fed up with my stomach bloating so bad

Im 21 and I have pain in the upper right part of my abdomen under the ribs and near it and also pain in the lower right of my abdomen. Anyone know what this could be?

I am 54 and for last year iv been having really bad apin under my rib Right side flank pain under my rib...The pain is getting more and more frequent.
I had my galblader out may years ago so i know its not that...I have had xrays..ultrasounds...MRI bloody test and im told nothing is showing up in any other then...This is really depresing me and worring my Mother passed away with Non hodgikins lymphoma could this be what iv got as i wastold it can fun in family i do feel some lumps in my stomack as well only small

Sam

Thank you for your information. I really thought it was helpfull. I really needed to know that I was not crazy. Sometimes these doctors make you feel like you are just going to see them for nothing. I know my body! I have this pain on the right side in between my ribs. I just got a CT scan and they are going to taking my G Bladder and found cysts on my liver. The thing is I have been having these cysts showing up everywhere in the last year. I have had 3 removed from my gums, 1 from my leg, 1 from my eye lid, and now they found 2 on my liver and want to take my G Bladder. No one can tell me whats wrong. These cysts have got to be forming for a reason. This is painful and costly to have them removed! Help

Just been enjoying about 1 month of not being in pain.

Why? Not totally sure.

I took a break for 2 months about 3 months ago as well but it came back with some serious dental work.

Some things that have helped me:
-Daily study of the Word of God 'claiming' memorizing and meditating on scriptures
-1 tablespoon of either lemon, apple cider vinegar or balsamic vinegar (these all work pretty much the same when I had my worst pain)
-Going gluten free (really eating less of any processed foods!!!- Note that it took me 6 months to get gluten out of my system.)
-The Egoscue Method (I do a daily routine of easy stretching exercises) as well as daily walks
-1 Teas of Baking Soda in Water

Except for the power of the Word of God, I have no idea how the other things have helped because I have never gotten a firm diagnosis but I hope and pray that some of these helps will help others who are suffering.
  

I am experiencing the same thing you are. Have had every test I can think of and all the blood work too ! I have had my pain for 2 months now. Some days are worse than others. Pain meds can help control it if I dont over do it but I have a life to live for crying out loud. I go see a surgeon on the 25th. If by some miracle he finds out what it is , I will be more than happy to let you know !

I used to get this pain, only a few inches lower, after eating anything with hamburger.  I have been vegan for about 6 months now, and have not experienced it, until the last couple of nights, when I had consumed some cheese with pasta.  It's direct beneath mylowest right rib and feels like something is tender with slight movement, feels weird but mild.  I beleive there is a connection to this and foods that we eat.  I will continue to be strict with my vegan diet and post again soon with relative changes:)

any progress in your condition, i have the basic symptoms as you for 4 months

Lets try an experiment together, those with Gallbladder & without.

Sit in a chair, stretch right leg out behind you as far as you can, now lean forward onto desk laying your head on your left arm (like you where bored in one of your high school classes), now make sure your right leg is stretched out behind. Now breathe in slowly, but deeply, where does it hurt??????

Is it right under or below the right ribcage???

This suggestion is only for those individuals who have already seen a doctor - had things checked out - and not been able to determine a problem.

There are muscles that can spasm or get something called "trigger points" (which are tender areas where the muscle fibers are contracted). These trigger points often refer pain to other areas. There are TWO muscles that can cause pain in, under, around the ribcage area AND around to the back (usually the lower, inside aspect of the scapula). They also mimick gallbladder issues.

So...if you have had all of the tests come back normal - and still experience discomfort - you may want to give this a try.

Trigger points will usually disappear by applying pressure/massage to them. The two muscles that need to be addressed are; the Serratus Anterior and the Diaphragm.

To release the Serratus Anterior muscle, feel for the most prominent rib on your side, straight down from your armpit at the level of your nipple. This is usually where the tenderness is the greatest. If the trigger point is very active, you won't feel like touching it - as it can really hurt. Fortunately, it doesn't take much pressure to have an effect. If you do not feel tenderness at that specific spot - realize that trigger points can be on any of the 9 ribs that this muscle attaches to. You can simply use your fingertips to apply some pressure to the tender area. Hold the pressure for several seconds (keeping the pressure the same). You should feel the tenderness start to slowly subside (this is the muscle releasing - as your pressure should be staying the same). Palpate your entire side feeling for tender points. Apply gentle but firm pressure to the tender points.  *****Keep in mind that the trigger point may be several inches from where you are feeling the discomfort - it can still be the cause of the pain*****

The second muscle is your Diaphragm. This is a thin muscle that separates the orgrans of the chest from those of the abdomen. It attaches to the lowest of the ribs (all the way around the body). You will have to use your fingers to apply some gentle pressure under your bottom ribs. This can feel uncomfortable and is easiest on the exhale motion (I find it nearly impossible to go deeper on an inhale). Your hands and fingers may tire easily - so you may have to break it down into separate sessions.

If these trigger points have been in the muscles for some time - they may take some time to release. Be patient. If you are tender after your first session - give yourself a few days before trying another session. Expect a slight "bruised" sensation. If this happens, not to worry, the tenderness will subside in 1 - 3 days and the muscles should be much healthier and happier than prior to the treatment.

If this all seems too complicated or you are apprehensive - call around to find a good, qualified Massage Therapist that is experienced with these treatments. If they look at you with the "deer in the headlights" look when you mention work on these two muscles - keep looking for another therapist. An experienced therapist should know exactly what to do. However, with practice, you can easily do this yourself. There is a great book that can guide you called "The Trigger Point Therapy Workbook" by Clair Davies. You should be able to find it on Amazon, ebay, etc.

Again, to reiterate, I only recommend this for those that have exhausted other resources. Please don't assume that it could be muscles if there is potential for it to be your gallbladder, liver or pancreas. However, if all has been cleared for you on those and you are still frustrated with the pain and discomfort - I think some of you might possibly find relief with these techniques. I suppose if even ONE person does - then it will be worth posting this. These techniques, of course, will work on either side of the body - but trigger points on the right side Serratus Anterior - could definitely be more prevalent in right handed individuals (but not limited to).

Best wishes to all!


Ah - and one more suggestion if this fails. Some people may find relief through acupuncture. If the the thought of needles makes you uncomfortable - find someone that does acupressure. Same concept, but without the needles!

is it really the pinch nerve theory cause it just happened to me today ????

i too have been suffering with this pain and idscomfort for about 3 mths, all test came back ok except when i did hida scan second dose bout killed me, so GI doc thinks it is my gallbladder although it is functioning at 51%..I meet with surgeon next wed, wish me luck and i feel your pain!

I'm only 19 years old male overweight. I also have right quadrant pains getting really bad, I've had an abdominal ultrasound which didn't find anything I am nauseous 24/7 I hardly eat, 2 times at most a day all for about 3 months now pain comes on and off and it'll hurt my back and sometimes cause heartburn very painful sometimes. Certain little things like alka seltzer and cimetidine will help numb it for a bit but not all the time and I at one time was abusing alcohol and now when I do drink every so often it makes my stomach very upset and causes me immediate diarrhea. I too have had the "clay" type stool every once in a while I have no idea what that is or even an idea of what's really wrong with me, any advice?

CMT4u Thanks for your sharing--

Egoscue Method, Physical Therapy, massage and treatment for a 'possible' ulcer  helped me - also I stopped carrying a heavy purse over my right shoulder. Who knows for sure-- only God! I just praise Him for my being out of my worst pain.

..folks really  should be sure to check out bodywork especially when other things are dead ends...  

I could not afford much testing, and well, I don't have a whole lot of faith in conventional medicine today -- they are too specialized and looking at folks from their specialty only not the whole person. The last time I looked all my parts were all connected and when one part hurts the whole body is uncomfortable---  

I personally think dehydration might be a factor with myofascial pulling on our muscles and messing with our overall structure.  

Lots of considerations-- thanks again for your thoughts!

Wow, you shared a bunch  of good things to consider.
BTW I am almost 60 female and into menopause 2 years.

I was at 56 on my last Vit D test- last year.  But alternative doctors want folks at 70 or 80. I know it is important to ask for the 25 Hydroxy+25OH-D2 Test (Dr. Mercola has lots of good information on this on the web) I was as low as 27 in '08. I supplement and also get little bits of sunlight and like taking cod liver oil in wintertime. I would like to get my levels up!
  Hi rathycodes,

My URQ pain got better at once with Pepcid but help wore off  after a while Plus I think Pepcid and similar OTC or prescription drugs are not healthy and they can cause other problems.

I was finally helped (over 1 year) with remedies for ulcer, Egoscue Method bodywork, Chiropractor and massage visit and physical therapy.

Will talk to my "Alternative" friendly Endocrinologist- I am hypothyroid and am wondering about the thoughts you shared...

In the 90s I had blood transfusions and 6 months later was told I had Hep C.  I have pain in my upper right quadrant where my liver is located.  I did a year of interferon for the Hep C, cuz my liver counts started rising, the treatments were successful.  I'm having the pains again so I am wondering if my Hep C is back.  I will have liver function test ran in Augsust.

Somewhere below in these comments, someone posted something about Flaxseed Oil and boiling it and taking a few swigs of the stuff each day. I didn''t have the time yesterday to do that, so I bought a bottle of Flaxseed Oil Gel Caps. I took 2 caps 3 times yesterday and I already noticed a difference this morning. Dr's don't know diddly - just read these postings about how many people have had procedures that did nothing !

Thanks for this idea:  very similar symptoms!  And, I am lactose intolerant, so this makes a lot of sense.  I've had all sorts of tests, all sorts of meds, nothing helps much.  Will check it out - NAN

It is Aug of 2012 as I write this and I have now been pain free eight months from the Upper Right Quadrant pain that I had had for 1 1/2 years prior.

I am still studying my health and believe that I reacted to Nightshade Foods (some of nightshades are Potato, Eggplant, Tomatoes and Peppers).  I had become a vegetarian 6 months before my pain began and I had been eating a lot of these. And I was taking a bunch of herbals that had cayenne pepper in them. I believe I developed an ulcer from the peppers and the tomatoes. I was on a protocol to heal my ulcer for about 6 months and I know that was a big healing factor, but I was also helped when I gave up gluten and  when I did Egoscue body work.  If you go though my posts you will see all the things I tried.

I hope my experience with this pain helps someone else. I was one of the worst pains I have ever had and I cried myself to sleep many nights.

On the plus side my health quest has yielded many great lifestyle changes    and most importantly my spiritual life excelled.

Just to let the guys know - look up Epididymitis on Wiki if you ever have sore testicles combined with pain radiating into the abdomen - the vas deferens can get infected when the little check valve that is supposed to stay shut when urine passes through fails slightly - I had this happen during a hockey game - I am in my 40s and thought I either had a groin pull or hernia - it suffered for a couple years with that on again off again dull pain - turns out the only "doctor" that could figure it out was the PA at work (former military) that suggested an infection - it took the second treatment of antibiotics to cure it but it worked -

Did you get your tests run? Jackie 01333

With me I decided to test eating gluten and see how that feels - I have felt URQ discomfort but so far  (one a few times days apart) no way near what I had at its worst--
for me I think I had an ulcer caused by nightshades and gluten-- This is just a strange theory so I am still trying to sort it out.  It was so very painful and I dealt with it 1 1/2 years. I never want to go there again, will avoid nightshades and most gluten to be careful.  

Because of  faith in the Lord Jesus Christ and serious study of the Word of God I am coping  with life stresses so much better and my system is more alkaline (Stress is very acid to the body).  And I also  think that and Earthing, grounding, (going barefoot on my walks)  has been healing.  

Faith Alone in The Lord Jesus Christ Alone has healing for now and eternity and natural things like checking reactions to foods, getting the body into a more alkaline state and going barefoot are safe, simple and Free.  

I know you posted awhile ago but I am having the same symptoms. Have you ever heard of pheochromocytoma. This may help.

Off and on for 13 years I would episode that were not painful--that overrode my darvocetN--I would just get extreme bloating right below my  ribcage. The first one happened 1996, I couldn't vomit, no diarrhea, just like something was blowing up my ribs.  After hour-or so-, I broke out in extreme sweat.
And then I was fine, except little tummy distress.  Six months later same thing, but of lesser endurance.  Every 18-24 months I would have these episodes. I just became diabetic, but all over excellent health..on heart healthy diet, lost weight-40 lbs, etc.  In 2009 I had one of these episodes and went to emergency room.  I had a gallbladder attack, with possible pancreas involvement. Given antibiotics for 8 days then had laproscopy.
Test shows stone, crystals, sludge.  After surgery, I had extreme diarrhea, no matter what I ate, but then at same time prior to the surgery I had had a total knee replacement...so my antibiotic level was on overload..steriods, biotics, herparin, etc.  I ate some yogurt--good for gut, and went on with life..Ate anything I wanted. Also have had 3 colonscopies within 15 years..negative.  I never had PAIN, vomiting, diarrhea with my gallbladder.  My liver enzymes were up before, Now all
my lipids, TSH and heart readings are normal.
My paternal grandmother, father, and now me have had gallbladder problems, grandmother died from it, but back in 1945-1948, screenings,
CATs, MRI didn't exist.

I have just completed one of the most agonising weeks in my life.Like many other posters on this site, i have been plagued by URQ discomfort also accompanied by upper stomach discomfort, bloating, belching and loss of appetite.Its sad to say but at some point i began to suspect the worst.The doctors i first saw thought nothing of it and prescribed antacids.They did not work.After doing numerous blood work I got fed up and saw another doctor who referred me to an Gastro who told me that he would not comment until I had an endoscopy done.It was done.Almost everything was negative save for some slight irritation.That was a breath of fresh air thank God! I now have tonnes of medication just to deal with the symptoms.For all those undergoing the same, take heart.

The burning sensation is exactly like mine!!!  Yay!  Mayo says it's more than likely a chronic muscle injury due to incorrect weight-lifting movements.....I'm guessing you lift free weights to improve your upper body.  Get someone to watch your technique to see if you're doing it correctly...otherwise, dunno....

I am 62..and am in the forum of indentions on my head, neurology.  I too live in florida..where there are plenty of chemtrails. Here is what I found:'ve been on this forum for several months..I think we all have morgellons ...which includes Nanno Technology parasites.  There are 10's of Thousands of children and adults afflicted with this new unresearched or undiscovered affiction.  I have been treated this last few weeks and am getting much better.  My doc doesn't have all the answers ...but a blood test with the microscope showed all the parasites.  If any one has questions, I will give them  information.  Our doctors are not familiar with Nanno Technology  parasites...they are being used to kill the real bugs, pests in corn, cotton and wheat fields...all over the world and can nest in the cotton clothing...you can breath them into your nose...they look like a piece of pepper and very very tiny.  But they can bite..kind of like a tiny dart....They link together with fibers inside your body, kink of like the picture below of "new gene discoveries". They are a cross between Garden "scabies and spidersWEBS" I think they come from Chemtrails.  This is an assault on Humanity, animals and mother nature...

in Florida: my story (I'm on the Indention forum in Neurology: 've been on this forum for several months..I think we all have morgellons ...which includes Nanno Technology parasites.  There are 10's of Thousands of children and adults afflicted with this new unresearched or undiscovered affiction.  I have been treated this last few weeks and am getting much better.  My doc doesn't have all the answers ...but a blood test with the microscope showed all the parasites.  If any one has questions, I will give them  information.  Our doctors are not familiar with Nanno Technology  parasites...they are being used to kill the real bugs, pests in corn, cotton and wheat fields...all over the world and can nest in the cotton clothing...you can breath them into your nose...they look like a piece of pepper and very very tiny.  But they can bite..kind of like a tiny dart....They link together with fibers inside your body, kink of like the picture below of "new gene discoveries". They are a cross between Garden "scabies and spidersWEBS" I think they come from Chemtrails.  This is an assault on Humanity, animals and mother nature...

Are you any better now did the Dr. ever find anything? how are you coping, You can leave a message at   ***@****,

Jamie, I'm in the same boat as you. 42 y/o Male same EXACT pain you're having. I haven't had any tests yet. Lemme know if your pain has ever resolved. I REALLY hope your pain has totally disappeared!

Here's my email addy Bro

Hemmlocke316 at yahoo *******

Take care!

~Derrick

Did you every figure out what that was?  My symptoms are exactly like yours!  I.e. the getting worse when you walk around, relief when putting pressure on the area, and better with sleep...

I have right side pain for past 2 years. Had my gallbladder out, still pain. Had an angiolipoma on my rib cage just about bra line right side, had that removed still pain. Came down with cdiff from antibiotic use and pain got worse. Very hard to get rid of but also prevalent in our community. Now on flagile, vancomycin taper and lots of benibiotic probiotic. When pain is better, cdiff symptoms are better. Never really gone. I've come to associate pain getting worse as cdiff coming back. Ulcerative colitis, inflammation of the colon causes pain. Feels like someone pushing on my rib from inside. Even painful to touch on outside, not as bad. Only way to know is cdiff stool test. Took doctors almost a year to do the test. Btw, acid rescuers for stomach make cdiff worse as stomach acid helps keep cdiff in check. You can get it from community or taking antibiotics, kills natural flora in colon.

I too have had under the right rib pain for several years.  Sometimes it makes me nausious.  The pain spreads across my mid-section under my ribs and makes me bloated.  Hurts.  Dr. put me on Omeprazole.  I take it for about 14 days then go off.  It is still tickling me though up under that right rib.  Mother and her Mother had their gallbladder out.  I don't have stones, but have not been tested to see how it is squirting.  Guess that's my next test.  Ugh!!!!